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For instructions on how to nominate an article, see Template:DYK nomination header § Instructions for nominators.
"Template:Did you know nominations" redirects here. For the list of approved nominations, see Template talk:Did you know/Approved.

This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page with a "hook" (an interesting fact). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area and then promoted into the Queue. To update this page, purge it.

Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
April 18 1 1
April 29 1
May 2 2 1
May 7 1
May 12 2 1
May 13 1
May 17 1
May 20 1
May 21 2
May 22 2
May 25 2 1
May 27 2
May 28 4 1
May 30 5 2
May 31 1
June 2 3 2
June 3 1 1
June 4 1 1
June 5 2 1
June 6 4 1
June 7 5 2
June 8 3 2
June 9 4 2
June 10 3 1
June 11 6 2
June 12 3 1
June 13 9 7
June 14 4 4
June 15 5 4
June 16 8 5
June 17 8 7
June 18 8 4
June 19 5 2
June 20 8 5
June 21 9 5
June 22 13 6
June 23 10 6
June 24 15 8
June 25 11 1
June 26 10 5
June 27 15 6
June 28 9 4
June 29 8 5
June 30 18 8
July 1 9 5
July 2 8 7
July 3 8 3
July 4 7 5
July 5 14 6
July 6 10 4
July 7 8 2
July 8 5
Total 305 147
Last updated 18:51, 8 July 2025 UTC
Current time is 19:07, 8 July 2025 UTC [refresh]

Instructions for nominators

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If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing. Further information can be found at the DYK guidelines.

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Frequently asked questions

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How do I write an interesting hook?

Successful hooks tend to have several traits. Most importantly, they share a surprising or intriguing fact. They give readers enough context to understand the hook, but leave enough out to make them want to learn more. They are written for a general audience who has no prior knowledge of or interest in the topic area. Lastly, they are concise, and do not attempt to cover multiple facts or present information about the subject beyond what's needed to understand the hook.

When will my nomination be reviewed?

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first, it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions below). Because of WP:DYKTIMEOUT, a nomination should be reviewed within two months since the reviewer/promoter may agree to reject and close an unpromoted hook after that time has passed.

Where is my hook?

If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.

If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.


Instructions for reviewers

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Main page: Wikipedia:Did you know/Reviewing guide

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING  :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
  • Save the page.
  • After the nomination is approved, a bot will automatically list the nomination page on Template talk:Did you know/Approved.

If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Advanced procedures

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How to promote an accepted hook

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At-a-glance instructions on how to promote an approved hook to a prep area
Check list for nomination review completeness
  1. Select a hook from the approved nominations page that has one of these ticks at the bottom post: .
  2. Check to make sure basic review requirements were completed.
    • Any outstanding issue following needs to be addressed before promoting.
  3. Check the article history for any substantive changes since it was nominated or reviewed.
  4. Images for the lead slot must be freely licensed. Fair-use images are not permitted. Images loaded on Commons that appear on the Main Page are automatically protected by KrinkleBot.
  5. Hook must be stated in both the article and source (which must be cited at the end of the article sentence where stated).
  6. Hook should make sense grammatically.
  7. Try to vary subject matters within each prep area.
  8. Try to select a funny, quirky or otherwise upbeat hook for the last or bottom hook in the set.
Steps to add a hook to prep
  • In one tab, open the nomination page of the hook you want to promote.
  • In a second tab, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.

Wanna skip all this fuss? Install WP:PSHAW instead! Does most of the heavy lifting for ya :)

  1. For hooks held for specific dates, refer to "Local update times" section on DYK Queue.
    • Completed Prep area number sets will be promoted by an administrator to corresponding Queue number.
  2. Copy and paste the hook into a chosen slot.
    • Make sure there's a space between ... and that, and a ? at the end.
    • Check that there's a bold link to the article.
  3. If it's the lead (first) hook, paste the image where indicated at the top of the template.
  4. Copy and paste ALL the credit information (the {{DYKmake}} and {{DYKnom}} templates) at the bottom
  5. Check your work in the prep's Preview mode.
    • At the bottom under "Credits", to the right of each article should have the link "View nom subpage" ; if not, a subpage parameter will need to be added to the DYKmake.
  6. Save the Prep page.
Closing the DYK nomination page
  1. At the upper left
    • Change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • Change |passed= to |passed=yes
  2. At the bottom
    • Just above the line containing

      }}<!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.-->

      insert a new, separate line containing one of the following:
      To [[TM:DYK/P1|Prep 1]]
      To [[TM:DYK/P2|Prep 2]]
      To [[TM:DYK/P3|Prep 3]]
      To [[TM:DYK/P4|Prep 4]]
      To [[TM:DYK/P5|Prep 5]]
      To [[TM:DYK/P6|Prep 6]]
      To [[TM:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]
    • Also paste the same thing into the edit summary.
  3. Check in Preview mode. Make sure everything is against a pale blue background (nothing outside) and there are no stray characters, like }}, at the top or bottom.
  4. Save.

For more information, please see T:TDYK#How to promote an accepted hook.

Handy copy sources:

  • To [[TM:DYK/P1|Prep 1]]
  • To [[TM:DYK/P2|Prep 2]]
  • To [[TM:DYK/P3|Prep 3]]
  • To [[TM:DYK/P4|Prep 4]]
  • To [[TM:DYK/P5|Prep 5]]
  • To [[TM:DYK/P6|Prep 6]]
  • To [[TM:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]

How to remove a rejected hook

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  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue

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  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name

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  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

Nominations

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Older nominations

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Articles created/expanded on April 29

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Italian brainrot

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An example of these surrealist creatures
An example of these surrealist creatures
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Created by Thegoofhere (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Thegoofhere (talk) 19:23, 3 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Not a review, but I'd like to point out some things for the benefit of the first-time nominator here. The article in question is linked in bold from the hook, which I've done. Thegoofhere, there is also a failed verification tag that will need addressing before the page is passed. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 22:58, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - ?
  • Interesting: No - ?
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: The article was created on 26 April, and was nominated for DYK on 3 May, which is a few hours after seven days. It is long enough with 5853 characters (896 words) of readable prose size. No copyright violations, plagiarism or close paraphrasing have been found in the article. The issue with this nomination is the provided hook, which in my opinion is not particularly interesting or intriguing, and its cited source at no point mentions this trend is particularly popular in Europe, just popular in general. Since the picture used is AI generated, it holds no copyright. It also looks good and clear at a 100px. A QPQ is not required for this nomination. I suggest the editor provides a new hook(s), if you need help or want suggestion for hooks, you can contact me in my talk page. NeoGaze (talk) 14:46, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Thegoofhere: Hello, are you planning to continue with this nomination? NeoGaze (talk) 19:33, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
uh-huh --Thegoofhere (talk) 22:35, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Thegoofhere: You will need to propose a new hook if you want to continue pursuing this nomination. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:32, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2: ...that Tralalero Tralala is considered haram by Muslims? (https://screenshot-media.com/culture/internet-culture/italian-brainrot-dark-origin/)
ALT3 ...that Tung Tung Tung Sahur might become a flim? (https://www.kompas.com/hype/read/2025/05/12/104147466/viral-di-medsos-meme-tung-tung-tung-sahur-dikabarkan-akan-dibuatkan-film)
--🇺🇸Thegoofhere🇺🇸 (talk) 15:28, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@NeoGaze: @Narutolovehinata5:. --🇺🇸Thegoofhere🇺🇸 (talk) 15:30, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Thegoofhere: The content of ALT2 doesn't appear in the article, and its source doesn't specify Tralalero Tralala as being haram, but the whole Italian brainrot trend. It is also based on the opinion of a single tiktok user, which is no person of authority in the religion. ALT3 is problematic as well because its speculative. The film has not yet been completed, and so the proyect may come to nothing. I propose the following alts as alternatives, and if you approve them then we can proceed with these. NeoGaze (talk) 22:31, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT4 ...that several Italian Brainrot characters have been used to sell toys, NFTs and Meme coins? (Zhan, Jennifer (29 May 2025). "The Italian Brain Rot Ren-AI-ssance, Explained". Vulture. Retrieved 1 June 2025.) ("Meme coin trapralaleo tralala surges 17000%, experts caution investors on volatility". CHOSUNBIZ. 2025-04-29. Retrieved 2025-04-29.)
ALT5 ...that according to Polskie Radio, Italian Brainrot is popular among Generation Alpha "because it's stupid, funny and veeeery addictive"? ("Czym jest brainrot? Trippi Troppi i Ballerina Cappuccina - tego nie ogarniają nawet zetki". Polskie Radio. Polskieradio.pl. Archived from the original on 22 May 2025. Retrieved 3 June 2025.)
ALT6 ...that some Italian Brainrot characters have been accused of being Islamophobic? (Ferraris, Matilda (2025-04-26). "From Ballerina Cappuccina to Tralalero Tralalà, we unpack the darker undertones of Italian brainrot". SCREENSHOT Media. Retrieved 28 April 2025.)
@NeoGaze:. I approve. I suggest either ALT5 or ALT6--🇺🇸Thegoofhere🇺🇸 (talk) 19:42, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Great, then I'm going to cross out the previous alts and request a second opinion, to make sure everything is okay. NeoGaze (talk) 22:31, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@NeoGaze:. Hi! My opinion may not count much.... But I think ATL6 would be best suited as it does not include an "according to...".Earth605 (talk) 15:29, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The nomination is already over two months old and has not been approved or promoted, so marking this for closure per WP:DYKTIMEOUT. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:39, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: I have approved it (I added the template to make it more clear), I just requested a second opninion since this is my second review. @Earth605: Attribution is not really an issue as long as it is properly done with reliable sources, its up to the person that promotes the hook. NeoGaze (talk) 11:36, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
pinging @NeoGaze (This is very personal opinion, and should be respected.) "According to..." is very specific, as it means it's only an opinion, or that it is reported by one source. Earth605 (talk) 13:53, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Earth605: Okay, I don't really disagree with you, but I fail to see your point. Are you implying that the rest of ALTs are somehow worse? ALTs 5 and 6 are based on opinions, while 4 its a veryfiable fact not subject to dispute. Does that make it better? NeoGaze (talk) 14:16, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Earth605:In reality it's more like ATL 5 is based on opinion when ATL6 is kinda not. Well this discussion should be closed any time now really, so it doesn't even matter that much.
For what it's worth, DYKTIMEOUT also applies to nominations which have been approved but have not been promoted. I will let a promoter decided whether or not to promote or close the nomination. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:41, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Approving ALT6 as the most interesting of ALT4, ALT5, and ALT6.--Launchballer 14:36, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I do not think this should not have been approved. The article asks the question if it is Islamophobic and says that some users said "that the original intent wasn’t meant to be Islamophobic or anti-religious." It does not mention anyone accusing it of being Islamophobic. The cited article reads as if lots of it was written with AI or translated. Aneirinn (talk) 03:45, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Technically, the source does mention Islamophobia accusations (from "As we've seen"), but after running several paragraphs through the AI detector I'm satisfied that the source shouldn't be used - and as this is more than two months old I'm timing it out.--Launchballer 05:30, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I, for one, believe blasphemy is distinct from Islamophobia. Aneirinn (talk) 17:02, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 2

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100 men versus a gorilla

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Created by Thegoofhere (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Thegoofhere (talk) 19:12, 4 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • DYK is not for any random fact—it's to direct readers to relatively new articles on Wikipedia. Your hook needs to contain a link to an article that is new enough to be eligible for the "Did you know" section. See WP:DYKNEW for the eligibility requirements. Mz7 (talk) 21:53, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: ALT2 is the only hook approved. ALT0 takes it a bit farther than the article (pretty much all statements on who wins in the article are attributed to some expert), and ALT1 doesn't really appear in the article (no info about public opinion overall). I'm not really sure where the concern for notability comes from: this is pretty far from WP:ROUTINE, and it's got plenty of secondary sources. Despite the orange tag at time of writing, all sources look fine. New reviewer. Based5290 :3 (talk) 04:06, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Thegoofhere: ALT2 won't fly either; you've got one opinion in wikivoice. New hook needed.--Launchballer 00:48, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If none of the hooks will fly, this shouldn't be on the Approved page. Marking that there's an issue, and moving the nomination back to the Nominations page. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:06, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thought that the quotes would've made it clear enough that it wasn't in wikivoice, sorry about that. ALT3: ... that according to a Zoo Miami staff member, to defeat a gorilla, 100 men may "envelop the gorilla and create a human straightjacket"? Based5290 :3 (talk) 09:22, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewer needed for ALT3. @Thegoofhere: Any other hooks you would like to propose? Z1720 (talk) 15:07, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ALT4: ... that according to commentators, Jake Paul should fight a gorilla once it's retired? (Everything Goes Wrong as Jake Paul’s Attempt to Settle Gorilla Fight Debate Sends Internet Into Frenzy)
ALT5: ...that the White House stated Donald Trump can beat 142,000 illegal immigrants? (White House joins '100 men vs. gorilla' trend with Trump's immigration record: '142K illegal immigrants vs. Trump')
IDK where I should put the article link in ALT5. --🇺🇸Thegoofhere🇺🇸 (talk) 17:29, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Pinging @Z1720: --🇺🇸Thegoofhere🇺🇸 (talk) 19:52, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Can I offer a reformat of ALT3 above?

ALT6: ... that according to the Zoo Miami communications director, 100 men could beat a single gorilla if they "envelop the gorilla and create a human straightjacket"?

I think that most clearly links to the article and summarizes the cited source, Rjjiii (talk) 04:48, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ALT7: ... that a thought experiment as to whether 100 men could beat a gorilla prompted the White House to suggest that Donald Trump once beat 142,000 persons?--Launchballer 19:13, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sigh, do we really need another Trump hook? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:38, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT8: ... that a thought experiment as to whether 100 men could beat a gorilla recently went viral?--Launchballer 13:08, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Two issues with the hook: one, "recent" may fall afoul of the rule on "definite" hooks, and two, this might be the second coming of the AiScream hook (which I know did well, but was still controversial). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:29, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, what part of WP:DYKDEFINITE does ALT8 violate? I also don't understand the AiScream concern.--Launchballer 18:47, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 7

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Star Trek: Day of Blood

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Moved to mainspace by Cambalachero (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 128 past nominations.

Cambalachero (talk) 14:31, 7 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Cambalachero All sources that I can find verify the hook fact. The reading order section needs to be referenced. I am not approving ALT1 as not interesting. SL93 (talk) 22:38, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm looking at the article right now and nothing stands out as a hook that works for non-Trekkies. If no agreement on a new hook can be made, or no new hook can be proposed, we may have to fail this one unfortunately. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:51, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I thought so also. SL93 (talk) 21:17, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know. Is the hook really all that interesting if you aren't a Trekkie? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:24, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Narutolovehinata5 Is Template:Did you know nominations/The Interstellar Song Contest any different? It is in prep 6. SL93 (talk) 13:08, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's a different case. For one, that hook makes sense even if someone isn't a fan of Star Trek. A character going that long between appearances is at least going to raise eyebrows among an average reader. ALT0 seems to be appealing more to Trekkies: I'm not sure if a non-Trekkie would be as interested in knowing about crossovers or things like that. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:46, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Crossovers are a type of comic book publication, usually used by Marvel Comics and DC Comics. You can expect them to "raise an eyebrow" Spock-style when they notice that someone else is stealing their thunder. And, as said, first work of its kind. Cambalachero (talk) 23:44, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@SL93:, remember to finish the review. As I pointed some time ago, the "Reading order" has been referenced. Please mark it as ready if ready, or point if there is something else that still needs to be done. Cambalachero (talk) 16:52, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's ready. I was waiting for the hook thing to be straightened out, which it didn't. SL93 (talk) 17:01, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Eh, I still don't think it's all that interesting to anyone who isn't a fan of Star Trek. It's very interesting to Star Trek fans, definitely, but if you're not a fan of the series, then having a crossover event within that series does not seem like much of a big deal. If it was a crossover between, say, Star Wars or Star Trek, it would be a different story. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:32, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm tired of Naturo's constant attempts to derail this nomination with non-actionable complaining. I would like someone else to provide a 4° opinion on this, or to endorse SL93's review. Cambalachero (talk) 18:55, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Eh, if a hook is at best marginally interesting, it is actionable by proposing a different hook (for what it's worth, I agree with SL93 that ALT1 is not interesting, so it doesn't count). If there really is nothing else in the article, I could maybe live with ALT0. I personally just don't think that the hook has much appeal outside of non-Star Trek fans, which isn't exactly the kind of broad audience that DYK is looking for in hooks. It would be like having a hook about having a Pokémon crossover between two different generations: if you're into Pokémon, you'll find it interesting, but less so if you aren't into Pokémon. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 21:46, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Per the request for a new reviewer, pinging uninvolved editors Launchballer, AirshipJungleman29, and RoySmith regarding the interestingness of ALT0. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:23, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To the nominator: pinging editors only counts as canvassing if they were pinged to lead a discussion towards a desired outcome. In this particular case, I pinged the three editors as they are active on WT:DYK and they are knowledgeable about hook interest. I do not know about their opinions at all regarding ALT0, and I do not know if they will approve or disapprove it. I pinged them for their expertise, and not because I think they have a specific viewpoint. Also, my message was neutrally worded rather than being an explicit request to reject or approve. Of course, these editors are free to not respond, and a different editor can make the final decision here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:06, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I find ALT0 marginally interesting; our article describes Star Trek as "one of the most recognizable and highest-grossing media franchises of all time" and its article has averaged ~3500 views per day. However, given the above, I recommend posting at WT:DYK.--Launchballer 14:20, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've posted a request for a second opinion at WT:DYK. If my earlier pings are considered canvassing then I apologize, as it was not my intention. I do suggest that Cambalachero assume good faith, as any impression of canvassing was entirely unintentional per my explanation above. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:24, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I do not. A user acting in good faith would have stepped aside and stayed silent when someone says that his opinions are not productive and asks for another user to take part in the discussion specifically because of it. A user acting in good faith would not ping specific editors of his own choosing who did not take part in the discussion or the writing of the article to replace him at the discussion (circumstances force me now to suspect that Launchballer, AirshipJungleman29, and RoySmith may be friends of yours), specially when the neutral procedure (the third opinion icon) was already implemented and awaiting for results. A user acting in good faith would not remove a {{Canvass warning}} that was placed in reference to his own actions. I will politely ask you to get lost, and let me discuss with someone else other than you or your friends. Cambalachero (talk) 16:42, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Honestly, I don't think there's any conspiracy or cabal at work. Narutolovehinata5 tends to be a nudge, but that kind of attitude is needed to move things along. I don't see anything wrong except for the use of "first", which we are trying to avoid. Viriditas (talk) 23:01, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) I will not be commenting on this nomination further, but I am disappointed at the lack of good faith shown in the above comment. As I said in my explanation, I had pinged those editors specifically because I did not know what they would think about the hook and knew, from their scrutiny of hooks on DYK, that they would be objective and unbiased (being objective means they could approve the hook and disagree with my opinion). Characterizing them as my "friends", when I explained my intentions, is not assuming good faith. I also apologized for my actions and made a neutral message at WT:DYK not targeted at any specific editor. I am fine with not participating here further, I am just very disappointed at the attitude shown to me above. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:06, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This is now two months old. While I could approve ALT0, prep slots are currently under high demand and I'd be very surprised if it was actually promoted, so I'm timing this out. You may try again at GA.--Launchballer 05:16, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 12

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Big Stone County Museum

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District No. 13 School
District No. 13 School
Created by Myotus (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 56 past nominations.

paul2520 💬 00:47, 13 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Interesting museum, on fine sources, no copyvio obvious. The image is licensed and illustrates the hook perfectly. In the article:
    1. link to the town in the first sentence
    2. for me, you could use ref 2 just once after "including", instead of having it in every line of the list.
    3. You may want to use mode=packed in the gallery to show the pics better.
    4. Next time please make section headers in sentence case - I did it for 2 here.
    Thank you for the article! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:40, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the comment and suggestions, I have made the changes. Myotus (talk) 21:24, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
One more hook question: isn't it "a historic"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:58, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt: thanks for the feedback & edits. Apologies for the accidental rollback—it was a slip.
Technically 'a historic' is fine, so either way. = paul2520 💬 00:36, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Paul2520 and Myotus: The nomination is timing out in four days, so please respond to Gatoclass's concerns regarding sourcing. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:08, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Narutolovehinata5, thanks for your ping! I had missed Gatoclass' comment. Gatoclass, I just updated the subsection in question. How do you think it looks now?
I think the sourcing looks good throughout. cc: Myotus = paul2520 💬 01:28, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 13

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Georgian Philharmonic Orchestra

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Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 2144 past nominations.

Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:57, 20 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • I would personally trim the hook to just this:
ALT0a ... that in 2022, the Georgian Philharmonic Orchestra performed a solidarity concert with Ukraine featuring music by Ukrainian and Georgian composers?
I think there is some potential in the original hook fact, it's just worded awkwardly and I don't think the founding date is important to the main hook fact. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:11, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think a centenary is worth mentioning. I also would like to point at how immediately after the invasion that was - perhaps you have an idea. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:16, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The primary hook fact is that they performed a solidarity concert following the invasion of Ukraine. Them being founded in 1925 is irrelevant to that. Again, WP:DYKTRIM applies: ...don't be afraid to trim hooks of extraneous information and clauses... In general, the shorter and punchier the hook, the more impact it has. If your desire is for the hook to run on the orchestra's centennial year, just it being approved and running is all that's needed. No need to mention the year since it's irrelevant to the hook fact. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:24, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT0b ... that following Russia's invasion of Ukraine in 2022, the Georgian Philharmonic Orchestra performed a solidarity concert featuring music by Ukrainian and Georgian composers?
I think that our readers, who are expected not to know this orchestra even existed, get valuable extra information by telling them (in a short phrase) about the groups's long history, - a background giving the fact more depth. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:22, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT0c: ... that the Georgian Philharmonic Orchestra, founded in 1925, gave a solidarity concert with Ukraine soon after the Russian invasion? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:24, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: I'm happy with ALT0c on an interestingness level. Do you plan on giving this a full review?--Launchballer 11:46, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: I was not planning on giving this a full review. However, I don't think we should go with ALT0c as written because I still feel that the year is trimmable. I am open to a variant of ALT0c that omits the year, as I really don't think that the foundation year is an essential part of the main hook fact. So basically something like: ALT0d: ... that the Georgian Philharmonic Orchestra gave a solidarity concert with Ukraine soon after the Russian invasion? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:11, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think the centenary adds interest, but don't feel strongly enough either way. I'll let a reviewer adjudicate.--Launchballer 12:15, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
One issue is that it might be easy to miss the centenary point, so even if that was the reason for including the year, it might take a while for the reader to register if (if they register it at all). It's also probably less relevant to the hook fact because the concert was in 2022 and not in 2025, so the year really isn't really relevant at all. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:19, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Even if you "miss" the centenary point, you can see that there is a long history (to be explored when you click), vs. just some short-time action. We have different readers, and some may be interested in history and perspective. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:44, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Long enough, new enough. QPQs are done and Earwig is clean. I'm fine with ALT0c from an interest standpoint (though it might flow better if 'the' was replaced with 'a' and the commas were removed), but it's cited to AllEvents.in, which sold tickets for the event, and I think this would deserve {{independent source inline}}.--Launchballer 01:54, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I translated that. There is no doubt that it happened. - They also played in another one on 11 April. - I can't easily find things in Georgian, - help? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:17, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt: Apologies for dropping this. ALT0c will be fine but I must ask for the AllEvents source to be replaced by the Fuckingyoung source.--Launchballer 18:49, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 17

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Cady Noland

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  • ... that the artist Cady Noland was sued by two different collectors of her work after she "disavowed" artworks that she no longer considered genuine because they were damaged or altered?
  • Source: Julia Halperin (Oct 4, 2024), “Just How Much Control Can an Artist Have Over Their Work?”, T Mag (New York Times Style Magazine): “The Swiss art dealer Marc Jancou sued Noland and Sotheby’s after the artist disavowed a work that he wanted to sell at auction. […] Noland visited Sotheby’s to view it, along with two other works destined for the block that season, and found its corners so damaged that she considered the work totaled. Sotheby’s called off the sale. [...] But it was hardly the last time that Noland would defend her art’s honor. There was a series of lawsuits over ‘Log Cabin Facade’ (1990), a life-size wooden sculpture that the artist disavowed after its previous owner allowed it to be installed outdoors for over 10 years and then replaced the rotted wood with new logs. ‘This is not an artwork,’ she said in a handwritten fax addressed to its new owner, the Ohio-based collector Scott Mueller”
  • ALT 1 (added after discussion below): ... that the artist Cady Noland has "disavowed" several artworks that she no longer considered genuine because they were damaged or altered?
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: First ever DYK nom, please advise if I mis-formatted anything. Thanks!
Improved to Good Article status by 19h00s (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

19h00s (talk) 20:37, 17 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Ok, makes sense on the negativity front. I'd disagree on the image front, as detailed in the article and discussions on the talk page (long story short: she doesn't allow images of herself to be created or circulate, this image where she hides her identity has been widely discussed and is discussed in the article). Don't necessarily disagree on the breaking up of the sections, but a biography article necessarily requires a more cogent narrative structure that is extremely difficult to achieve when you spread everything out into sections that break up the chronological flow. Happy to retract this nomination or you can just fail it. 19h00s (talk) 20:34, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A nomination doesn't fail just because one hook doesn't work. You could probably get away with ALT0a: ... that Cady Noland "disavowed" some of her artworks?, though I'll let a reviewer adjudicate on that.--Launchballer 20:47, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Learn something new about Wiki processes every day lol, just assumed this was DOA if the hook was out of bounds as written. Just added an alt version. Thanks for the tips. 19h00s (talk) 22:23, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your extensive work on this article, 19h00s. You nominated the day it passed its GA review, so it counts as a new GA. Brevity is certainly not an issue. The sourcing seems impeccable and I see no obvious neutrality issues. I do agree with Launchballer that the sections desperately need subsections; section with up to 16 paragraphs, some of them very long, are difficult to navigate. This is not a DYK requirement by any means. I am not convinced that the non-free infobox photo is fair use because the subject is a living person. There are five more non-free images in the article. I am not sure whether this is a DYK concern, but it might be a GAN concern, on the basis of which this hook is nominated. I hope I can get some input from @DYK admins: . Surtsicna (talk) 09:32, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Since there's questions about the GA review, pinging Floating Orb who conducted the GA review. RoySmith (talk) 10:17, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks y'all for taking a look at this nom. First, on the image front - I welcome more thoughts on this picture, but I've been through several rounds of discussion on this and multiple admins have concluded the image is OK as used given the circumstances (she doesn't allow pictures, this image is widely discussed as an example of that, it's discussed in the article). But obviously defer to community consensus. On the GA process, I would love for a new, full GA review. I asked several times during the process for others to step in and take over from Floating Orb, but other editors were really intent on letting FO learn the GA process (at the expense of this review). If you look at the full edit history on the review it's really hard to follow. But experienced GAR editors seemed to think it was fine by the end.19h00s (talk) 10:57, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Given that this is about a GA, pinging Epicgenius or Gerda Arendt for input here given that they are experienced with the process. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:31, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There can't be a new GA review until a formal overturn of the one we have. How about accepting it and just improve the article further. Formality things like subheaders are no reason to question a review, - it's not even among the criteria. I'll keep this watched, and will look, but not right now, going to be out all day soon, and there are commitments before getting back here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:11, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I just looked at the lead image and would not use it, not in the article nor in a DYK. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:13, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: Thanks for the ping. My understanding of WP:NFCC (based on #1, "Non-free content is used only where no free equivalent is available, or could be created, that would serve the same encyclopedic purpose.") is that non-free images of living persons are not allowed on Wikipedia at all. Therefore, the lead image of the article should be deleted. I haven't looked at the other non-free images though. Epicgenius (talk) 11:56, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Removed the lead image per this discussion. I don't necessarily agree but I respect the consensus. --19h00s (talk) 14:44, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on May 20

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Broadway Jones (performer)

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  • Source: *Badger, Reid (1995). A Life in Ragtime: A Biography of James Reese Europe. Oxford University Press. p. 307. ISBN 9780195345209. Henry 'Broadway' Jones was active in vaudeville and musical theater into the 1930s. In fact, Jerome Kern and Oscar Hammerstein wrote "Ol' Man River" with Jones in mind.
  • Carter, Lawrence T. (1979). Eubie Blake: Keys of Memory. Balamp Publishing Co. p. 62. ISBN 9780913642108. Later Jerome Kern went down to Florida. He heard a lot of black singers, and he decided to write the musical Show Boat. And having heard Broadway [Jones] sing, he wrote the song " Old Man River " expressly for his voice.
Created by 4meter4 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 113 past nominations.

4meter4 (talk) 20:53, 21 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article is new and long enough (created May 20), NPOV, has an interesting hook. One QPQ is done, but one additional is needed due to backlog mode being active. Article is inline and reliably sourced to a book from Oxford University Press. No image. Earwig shows 3.8% (violation unlikely). Chetsford (talk) 19:14, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Chetsford I added my second QPQ above. Best.4meter4 (talk) 00:48, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Good to go! Chetsford (talk) 04:20, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@4meter4 and Chetsford: I have pulled this per WT:DYK. I note 4meter4's comment that "Ol' Man River" is often cited as the beginning of the modern musical and I suggest adding a source to that effect (for example, that "a song often cited as the beginning of the modern musical" was written..."); otherwise, this needs a new hook.--Launchballer 14:52, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer That is not what I said. Show Boat as a whole is cited as the beginning of the modern musical. "Ol' Man River" is the best known song from that show. There are many sources for that, but if you look at the Musical theatre article Show Boat is the only work to get its own subsection. Best.4meter4 (talk) 15:01, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, my mistake. I suggest "that the best known song from a musical often cited...".--Launchballer 15:07, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The hook isn’t about Ol Man River but about Broadway Jones. The point was that this very famous song was written for his voice. It’s the most interesting thing about him in my opinion.4meter4 (talk) 15:10, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I won’t have internet access this week as I am traveling to a remote area with no cell phone reception or internet. It may be a while before I can think up something new. I will say I am a bit dismayed by the outcome here as I don’t think the song is obscure. There aren’t very many songs that have entire books written about them, and this is one of them.4meter4 (talk) 15:17, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"I am a bit dismayed by the outcome here as I don’t think the song is obscure." I share your perplexity. Chetsford (talk) 15:51, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think this misses the actually interesting part of the story. Lots of songs are written with particular performers in mind, but to have a song in a musical written especially for you yet turn down the part seems much more intriguing. I suggest something like "...despite the song Ol Man River from the musical Showboat having been written with him in mind, Broadway Jones did not join the cast?" --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 18:37, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
While that seems like a fine hook, the source only says he didn't join the original cast. Unless I'm missing something, we would need a source that established he didn't join the touring cast or any revival casts as well. I suppose we could modify it by saying "join the original cast" but that gets a little clunky. Chetsford (talk) 20:13, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Launchballer pulled this per a WT:DYK discussion. @Chetsford: How does this ALT hook sound?
ALT1 ... that singer Broadway Jones got his nickname from always wearing sharp looking suits?
Note that 4meter4 will be away for a week per their comment at the WT:DYK discussion. Narutolovehinata5 (talk ·contributions) 00:14, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It seems less interesting than the original one. Ol Man River is probably the most iconic song in the Great American Songbook while Broadway Jones is (I think - at least to me) relatively unknown in 2025 unless one is immersed in the history of vaudeville. But I guess it's better than nothing. Chetsford (talk) 04:28, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see how that even makes sense. What's the connection?----User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 11:39, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Probably from the culture of the New York theatre district at that time being connected so closely to fashion.4meter4 (talk) 23:31, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Seems more like a nonsequiter than something interesting. The only reason that would get me to click is to find out what it was supposed to be saying. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 15:43, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I would assume that if he had later joined the cast, the source would have said so. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 17:08, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To be honest, I don't understand the attachment to the original hook, because even with all that context, those accolades do not matter if the reader or audience is not familiar with the song. I'd be open to a variant of ALT0 that mentions it being on the list, but I don't think vanilla ALT0 works even with the context. One rule of thumb for hooks I have is, "If a hook requires an explanation on the nomination page, it usually does not meet DYKINT." Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:28, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
But the hook doesn’t require explanation. I think the point is that your lack of familiarity is not an accurate predictor of the general public’s familiarity in this case. This is a very famous song that a large percentage of readers on the English wiki will know. The accolades indicate fame and are a better predictor of that criteria than any individual wikipedian. Extrapolating your own lack of knowledge out to a wider audience is not a good way to operate in cases where there is evidence of wide fame/recognition on a given topic. At some point we all have to acknowledge that there are elements of popular culture / common knowledge that for whatever reason we as individuals may have missed but the general public overall has not. Applying specialized knowledge onto a well known topic isn’t a good idea.4meter4 (talk) 22:57, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on May 21

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Yao Yuanjun

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  • ... that after Chinese Border Defense Police officer Yao Yuanjun was killed in action, his police dog continued to wait for him to return?
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    • Comment: Several comments:

1. Since the subject was in the Border Defense corps, which is part of the Ministry of Public Security Active Service Forces, I'm kinda unsure what to refer to him as, since MPSASF personnel were active service members. 2. I currently also have an approved nomination at Template:Did you know nominations/Wang Xiaolong (Chinese coast guardsman), may I ask if this would interfere with anything 3. The 2 photos are non free fair use, so it cannot be put on the main page.

Created by Thehistorianisaac (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Thehistorianisaac (talk) 15:54, 21 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi Thehistorianisaac, welcome to DYK. I have formatted the original hook and removed the repeated hooks. Regarding your questions:

1. "border police officer" may be sufficient for the hook in line with the lead of the article. 2. No, you have multiple DYK nominations running in parallel. 3. Non-free images cannot be used in DYK.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - The reference is in Chinese. From Google translate, it seems that news agencies are saying as per the viral video, the dog is waiting for his master even after 10 years; rather than an independently verified fact that the dog is waiting. The article and the hook needs to be reworded. If my understanding is incorrect, please clarify.
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: None required.

Overall: The article is currently at AfD. We will have to wait for the same to conclude, before approving the hook. Most of the references are Chinese news sites, private or state-owned (from Neutrality perspective). Redtigerxyz Talk 12:22, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • There isn't really a huge problem with sources, state owned media is usually considered reliable outside of controversial usages, and different language sources are also allowed; As for the hook, from my understanding, it's similar to the Hachiko story. Additionally, the AfD likely won't go very far anyways.Thehistorianisaac Talk 23:48, 28 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Thehistorianisaac and Redtigerxyz: Article's been kept, what else needs doing?--Launchballer 14:50, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Afd has concluded as Keep. A RM is underway, however does not impact this DYK IMO.
Assuming The Paper as reliable. "From Google translate, it seems that news agencies are saying as per the viral video, the dog is waiting for his master even after 10 years; rather than an independently verified fact that the dog is waiting. The article and the hook needs to be reworded. If my understanding is incorrect, please clarify." is unaddressed. The references are just saying that there is a viral video which claims that the dog is waiting for its master.
I am okay to pass "ALT1 ... as per a viral video, the police dog of Yao Yuanjun was waiting for its master, 10 years after he was killed in action?" or similar. Redtigerxyz Talk 17:37, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Thehistorianisaac: Please address the above.--Launchballer 16:44, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Redtigerxyz: sorry for the late response. The Paper is generally considered reliable by other people from wikiproject China; Nothing against you personally, but I would prefer this DYK Nomination be reviewed by someone who understands chinese, as I have seen cases where google translate messes up. The sources are explaining the story based on the video. I think essentially speaking, the alternate hook you propose is mostly the same, but makes it a bit overly complicated. Thehistorianisaac

As requested by Nominator, requesting a Chinese speaker for a second pair of eyes.Redtigerxyz Talk 17:17, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Thehistorianisaac and Redtigerxyz: As requested on my talk page, I have taken a look at the disputed Chinese-language source cited in this nomination. Generally speaking, I agree that we should allow some leeway for Chinese state-owned media on non-controversial topics, since all media in China is essentially state-owned, rejecting these sources would mean dismissing all local news coverage in China. The Paper is generally considered a reasonable source for Chinese topics and has been cited extensively. However, this particular article was written by the Communist Youth League of Jiangsu (江苏共青团), rather than the staff writers of The Paper, and it discusses the People's Liberation Army. The article does mention that the incident originated from a viral video on the internet, and the body further states that the video was clipped from a TV program called Witness (见证), a documentary series produced by CCTV. In short, the source is a repost by a state-run organization regarding an incident reported by the state-owned television concerning the military. Even if this were the case in another country, I believe editors would scrutinize the source for verifiability and neutrality issues. Therefore, I agree with Redtigerxyz that this may not be the optimal source in this case and that it is inappropriate for us to put this on the main page in wikivoice. Proper attribution is definitely needed. I am happy to pass ALT1 if the nom is okay with it. —👑PRINCE of EREBOR📜 08:57, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Regan Garden

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Regan Garden
Regan Garden
Created by CanonNi (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 10 past nominations.

'''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 14:28, 29 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article is new enough and long enough. Hook fact is verified in the sources for 0 and ALT2 - rejecting ALT1 as the source reads “1.2 亿元” - 120 million; not as impressive. QPQ has been provided. No copyvio detected, as expected when all sources are in Chinese. Image is… clear enough at that size, and adequately licensed. Good to go. Strongly prefer ALT2. Juxlos (talk) 09:02, 30 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Pulled. The source says ownership "changed seven times among four countries" but at least two of these were "occupations" rather than ownership. The ALT hook isn't very good either, so I have returned this one for further discussion. Gatoclass (talk) 10:54, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Prince Mortimer

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Created by TriMuseumGeek (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

TriMuseumGeek (talk) 20:01, 22 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi TriMuseumGeek, thanks for you nomination. The article was moved to main space on 22 May so is new enough and is long enough. Unfortunately the sourcing is not up to DYK standards which require a source cited inline at the end of every paragraph as a minimum. I've added the article to the hook above. We need a citation in the article for him dying at 110 in prison (we would also have to say "approximately" to match the article). There are also some grammar issues with the article and it switches between past and present tense. Let me know if you can improve this to meet the criteria and I will take another look - Dumelow (talk) 07:02, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@TriMuseumGeek: Please address the above; I will fail this if this is not addressed in a week.--Launchballer 12:23, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Dumelow and Launchballer. I'm still getting the hang of this, and appreciate your comments. I tried to make the corrections and additions that you asked. If it is still not meeting the guidelines, I understand. Also, if I mess up this post, I apologize. Wikicode is not my strong suit. -- TriMuseumGeek (talk) 21:05, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • @TriMuseumGeek: Each "citation needed" template in the article needs to be replaced with a citation before this can be approved. Also, the article does does not give a definitive date of birth, so this hook cannot state that he lived to be 110 unless that can be verified. Z1720 (talk) 15:15, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2023 European Athletics Indoor Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay

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Eveline Saalberg, Femke Bol, Cathelijn Peeters, and Lieke Klaver
Eveline Saalberg, Femke Bol, Cathelijn Peeters, and Lieke Klaver
  • Source: "1 NED - NETHERLANDS 6 0.196 3:25.66 CR" (link)
Improved to Good Article status by Editør (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 18 past nominations.

Editør (talk) 14:08, 22 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Is there a way to shorten the bold link? It seems to be a distraction. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:09, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: I don't think so. I believe this is how titles of the form 'Championships – Event" are typically displayed when there is only one title in the hook, see for instance the DYK hook for Talk:2023 European Athletics Indoor Championships – Women's 400 metres. – Editør (talk) 09:23, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I mean if there's an alternate way to word the link. Right now it feels like a distraction to the reader. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:41, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: I tried that once before, but then the longer bold link was used for the hook, so I've used the longer bold link in my DYK rnominations since then. - Editør (talk) 11:48, 26 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To be honest, I'm not sure if that was the right decision, because personally I'd consider the longer bold link to fall under WP:DYKTRIM. Maybe other reviewers just didn't notice the issue but here it's rather obvious. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:22, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: In my experience, the most important part about the DYK nomination is that it is factually correct and the sentence works as a hook. Surely, I want to try and phrase it as well as possible, but when it can be completely rewritten in a later stage by a single author, I don't see the point in endless tweaking when all that work can be thrown out without notice. If you see a better way of working the long article title 2023 European Athletics Indoor Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay into the hook, let me know. Besides that, is there anything else holding up this nomination? – Editør (talk) 00:35, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe something similar to how it was originally proposed in the nomination you linked? Just link to "women's 4 × 400 metres relay" and keep 2023 European Athletics Indoor Championships as a separate mention, perhaps also avoiding linking it as being redundant to the main bolded link. It's like how the linked nomination just said "women's 400 metres hurdle at the 2024 European Athletics Championships." As for your other question, I was not planning to review this nomination, the hook just stood out when I was looking at DYKN (and not in a good way). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:38, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I misunderstood. Well, thank you for noting your concern and for your suggestion. – Editør (talk) 00:41, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A full review is still needed. – Editør (talk) 22:46, 27 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Editør: Not sure what Naruto's problem is, but "person does their job in an unusual way" hooks tend to do poorly at WP:DYKSTATS - what else do you have?--Launchballer 18:35, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I notice that this, 2024 European Athletics Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay and 2025 European Athletics Indoor Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay all similar problems. Why not knock the four into one hook?--Launchballer 18:42, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well, "person does their job in an unusual way" is a description for much of sports, I don't think this is an automatic disqualifier. I am not against combining articles, but I found it hard to come up with a good enough alternative hook in this this nomination. I will need to think about it some more. – Editør (talk) 23:03, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To answer Launchballer's question, my concern was not about hook interest or phrasing, but simply the length of the bolded link. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:50, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer, I may also want to nominate a fifth similar article 2022 European Athletics Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay that was just promoted to GA, so together it's these women's 4 × 400 metres relay events all won by the Dutch team comprised of Femke Bol, Lieke Klaver, and two other runners (Franke, Peeters, Saalberg, Van der Schoot, or De Witte): 2022+2024 European outdoor, 2023+2025 European indoor, and 2024 World indoor. Do you have an example of combining four or five articles into one hook? The European titles could be combined like in ALT3, but it is not the most appealing hook. Actually they won the indoor title in 2021 as well, but that article is still Start class, see ALT4 with one not bold-linked year. What do you think of ALT2, ALT3, and ALT4? I could try and improve the 2021 article to GA class as well so each year is bold-linked, but I'm not sure if we can pause the DYK nominations for the European articles until then. – Editør (talk) 22:33, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Update: I've improved the 2021 article and I've just nominated it for GA. – Editør (talk) 01:14, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Here is another option, ALT5. – Editør (talk) 01:31, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT5 ... that the Dutch women's 4 × 400 metres relay team won European titles in 2021, 2022, 2023 (runners pictured), 2024, and 2025, but had never won a European medal in this relay event before this streak?
One more thing, the 2021 article has been expanded 5x since 11 June 2025. – Editør (talk) 01:38, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT6 ... that the Dutch women's 4 × 400 metres relay team won European titles in 2021, 2022, 2023 (runners pictured), 2024, and 2025 and a World title in 2024? (I can probably review 2021 at GA.)--Launchballer 01:42, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If you add that, I think the 2023 world title should also be included, but that article is definitely not ready to be bold-linked. I think I would prefer to separate the world title article(s) from the European ones. – Editør (talk) 02:03, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer, do you know if I need to do any additional steps to add 2022 European Athletics Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay to the DYKN? It was promoted to GA five days ago. – Editør (talk) 22:42, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Editør: You'd need to provide QPQs for the two new articles. I'm going to start on the 2021 GA now.--Launchballer 20:42, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks; I wasn't sure that was all. Here is one Template:Did you know nominations/Neeraj Chopra Classic for the 2022 article. – Editør (talk) 23:43, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And here's another Template:Did you know nominations/Christina Næss for the 2021 article. – Editør (talk) 00:13, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on May 25

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2024 European Athletics Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay, 2024 World Athletics Indoor Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay

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Cathelijn Peeters, Lieke Klaver, Femke Bol, and Lisanne de Witte
Cathelijn Peeters, Lieke Klaver, Femke Bol, and Lisanne de Witte
  • Source: #1 "1 NED - NETHERLANDS 9 0.139 3:22.39 EL / 1913 KLAVER Lieke 50.57 (1) / 1915 PEETERS Cathelijn 50.96 (5) 1:41.53 (2) / 1908 DE WITTE Lisanne 50.41 (1) 2:31.94 (1) / 1906 BOL Femke 50.45 (6)" (link)
  • Source: #2 "1 NETHERLANDS NED 5 0.180 3:25.07 WL / 712 Lieke KLAVER 50.26 (1) / 713 Cathelijn PEETERS 51.99 (5) 1:42.25 (1) / 710 Lisanne DE WITTE 52.28 (3) 2:34.53 (1) / 709 Femke BOL 50.54 (3)" (link)
Improved to Good Article status by Editør (talk). Number of QPQs required: 4. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 20 past nominations.

Editør (talk) 19:42, 25 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: These all look good to me. Great work.

Thank you for your review. – Editør (talk) 15:51, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I cannot come up with a combined hook, so I will try separate hooks.
Here are two alternative hooks for 2024 European Athletics Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay. – Editør (talk) 16:58, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Women's 4 × 400 m relay final
Women's 4 × 400 m relay final
And here is an alternative hook for 2024 World Athletics Indoor Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay. – Editør (talk) 17:17, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Cathelijn Peeters, Lieke Klaver, Femke Bol, and Lisanne de Witte
Cathelijn Peeters, Lieke Klaver, Femke Bol, and Lisanne de Witte

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2025 European Athletics Indoor Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay

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Women's 4×400 m relay final
Women's 4×400 m relay final
  • Source: for 2021 "1 6 NED - NETHERLANDS 6 0.201 3:27.15 CR" (link)
  • Source for 2023 "1 NED - NETHERLANDS 6 0.196 3:25.66 CR" (link)
  • Source for 2025 "1 NED - Netherlands 5 0.171 3:24.34 CR,WL,NR" (link)
  • ALT1 ... that the cheers were "deafening" when the Dutch team won the women's 4 × 400 metres relay at the 2025 European Athletics Indoor Championships (finish pictured) before a home crowd? Source: "In de finale van de 4×400 meter voor vrouwen bleef het zondagavond lang spannend, toen Bol en de Britse slotloopster naast elkaar de laatste bocht indoken. Maar toen zette Bol, indoor de snelste vrouw op de 400 meter ooit, aan en werd het gat met elke pas groter. Op de streep was het verschil ruim een halve seconde – en het gejuich oorverdovend." [English translation: In the final of the women's 4 × 400 metres on Sunday evening, it remained exciting for a long time, when Bol went into the last bend next to the British anchor runner. But then Bol, the fastest woman in the 400 metres indoors ever, pushed on and the gap grew bigger with every stride. At the finish line, the difference was more than half a second – and the cheers deafening.] (link)
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Harry Wunsch, Template:Did you know nominations/Bob Kercher
Created by Editør (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 23 past nominations.

Editør (talk) 14:39, 30 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Length, history and references verified. However, both hooks are dull: there are a lot of sporting events where particular competitors have won three or more consecutive championships, and I'd fully expect a home crowd to cheer loudly when their athletes won.

    So how about ...

ALT2:... that the Dutch women's 4 x 400 metres relay team won this year's European indoor championship (finish pictured) after appealing a disqualification? Source: "Een diskwalificatie van de Nederlandse estafettevrouwen, wegens hinderen, werd teruggedraaid" ("A disqualification of the Dutch relay women, due to obstacles, was reversed."). Daniel Case (talk) 21:03, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
review needed for ALT2; I agree the other hooks are dull. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 09:54, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Please also see the nomination Template:Did you know nominations/2023 European Athletics Indoor Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay. – Editør (talk) 22:35, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Luis Aranaz

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Created by Luis7M (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Luis7M (talk) 17:22, 3 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: @Luis7M: The hook is verified, but it's on the border for me if it's "interesting". I'll mark it down as such since leading a team to 2 titles is notable. The article does not read neutrally/encyclopedic. I know that the tone of sports articles is different on Wikipedia, but this one sounds too promotion in my opinion. I think it should be rewritten to be more neutral. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 00:10, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@PizzaKing13: I gave this a rudimentary copyedit. Which bits do you consider unduly promotional?--Launchballer 12:06, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: I thought the beginning of the second paragraph of the club career section sounded to promotional, but I went ahead and copyedited it myself to make it more neutral. I believe the article is ready for DYK, though I suggest that Segunda División should be linked. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 17:19, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
information Note: @PizzaKing13 and Luis7M: I don't find the hook that interesting, for the reasons PK13 notes above; as DYK slots are currently under high demand, I won't be promoting it. Other promoters may disagree. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:24, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@AirshipJungleman29: Fair enough. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 00:31, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Luis7M: If you propose another hook I think this could be saved. @AirshipJungleman29: What do you think? Earth605 (talk) 15:30, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Earth605: There is no other hook. I still think the current one works out, but since it is a "hedge case of interest", then I don't mind waiting until the DYK slots become less in demand. Luis7M (talk) 00:05, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Luis7M: Yeah, we need another reviewer to at least consider this.
Not touching this with a barge pole per WP:DYKINT; the hook requires knowledge of what Sabadell and the Secunda Division are.--Launchballer 11:19, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]


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Diagnostic overshadowing in autism

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  • ... that that chronic pain or depression in autistic people is sometimes misread as “just part of autism,” delaying diagnosis and care?
  • Source: “Autistic individuals... experience elevated rates of chronic physical conditions, yet symptoms are often dismissed as part of autism rather than investigated as medical concerns.”
— Diagnostic overshadowing in autism article, citing:
Buie et al., 2010. Evaluation, Diagnosis, and Treatment of Gastrointestinal Disorders in Individuals With ASDs: A Consensus Report. PMID: 20048083
  • ALT1: ... that that older autistic adults may go untreated for conditions like sensory loss, pain, or memory decline because their symptoms are wrongly attributed to autism?
  • Source: “Older autistic adults... may be at heightened risk for misattributed cognitive decline (e.g., assuming communication challenges reflect autism when it may signal aging-related dementia or memory loss), untreated sensory loss... or inadequate pain management.”
— Diagnostic overshadowing in autism article, citing:
Hand et al., 2020. Prevalence of physical and mental health conditions in Medicare-enrolled, autistic older adults. PMID: 31773968
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: This is my first DYK nomination. This article highlights a significant and under-recognized health equity issue in autism: how co-occurring conditions like chronic pain or memory decline may be missed due to diagnostic overshadowing.
Created by PulsarPen (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

PulsarPen (talk) 17:37, 4 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • @PulsarPen: Thanks for writing an important article like this! Here's the DYK review:
General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - ALT0 isn't fully supported by the article - chronic pain and depression aren't specifically mentioned in the relevant sentence.
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - Both hooks need formatting changes.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: The hooks aren't formatted correctly - this guideline describes the standard style that hooks should be written in. As well as this, the first hook (ALT0) isn't supported by the article. Here's suggestions for improving your hooks, with correct formatting and the first hook's issue fixed:

To have the review passed, you'll also have to add citations to the end of a few paragraphs, as "all content that could reasonably be challenged ... must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose)." (from this guideline). Here's all the instances that need a citation:

  • Section "Physical health in autistics", paragraph starting "Such misattributions can result in..."
  • Section "Diagnostic overshadowing in reverse", paragraph starting "This form of overshadowing delays access to..."
  • The first paragraph of the "Systemic contributors" section
  • Section "Diagnostic overshadowing over the lifespan", paragraph starting "This form of lifespan overshadowing reflects..."

And one more minor thing: this doesn't affect whether or not the review passes, but usually when providing sources in DYK nominations, quotes are given from the citations themselves in order to make it easier for the reviewer to verify that the hooks are sourced.

Once the citation issues have been fixed, I'll be happy to pass this! I personally think that the first hook is a little more interesting than the second. Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 23:33, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@PulsarPen: Courtesy ping to let you know that this DYK will be rejected for inactivity soon if there's no reply. Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 15:52, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Suntooooth and @IntentionallyDense, thank you both for your time and thoughtful feedback on this DYK. I’ve carefully addressed each point as follows: My intended edits are below. I’m struggling a bit about how to edit the DYK page…. Please bear with me as I try to figure this out (also appreciate any help on the adding my intended edits below) — Preceding unsigned comment added by PulsarPen (talk • contribs) 00:10, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

1. Synthesis Concern (IntentionallyDense) Reviewer comment: The article previously cited only epilepsy and GI disorders but made a broader claim about chronic conditions, which could be WP:SYNTH. My response:
I've rewritten the sentence to remove the unsourced generalization. The updated phrasing now ties each condition (e.g., chronic pain, GI symptoms, autoimmune conditions) to secondary sources that explicitly discuss them. I also added:

  • Mason et al. (2019): A systematic review that documents elevated chronic physical health conditions in autistic adults.
  • Croen et al. (2015): A population-level study supporting multisystem health disparities.

This ensures that the revised statement reflects the scope of the sources used and avoids synthesis.

2. Hook Citation Support (Suntooooth) Reviewer comment: ALT0 originally referenced chronic pain and depression, but those conditions weren’t clearly cited in the article sentence used. My response:
I revised the hook for clarity and ensured it matches the wording and sourcing in the article. The final hook is now: ALT0: ... that chronic conditions in autistic people are sometimes misread as "just part of autism", delaying diagnosis and care? This wording directly reflects the cited section of the article, which now ends with high-quality secondary citations (e.g., Mason et al. 2019, Buie et al. 2010).

3. Citation Placement at End of Paragraphs Reviewer comment: Several paragraphs did not end with citations as required. My response:
I’ve reviewed and updated all flagged paragraphs to ensure proper citation placement, specifically:

  • “Physical health in autistics” — now ends with Mason et al. (2019)
  • “Diagnostic overshadowing in reverse” — now ends with Moyse & Porter (2015), a secondary source
  • First paragraph of “Systemic contributors” — updated to cite Mason et al. (2019)
  • Paragraph in “Diagnostic overshadowing over the lifespan” — ends with Croen et al. (2015) and Mason et al. (2019)

4. Hook Formatting Reviewer comment: Hooks weren’t in standard format. My response:
Both hooks have now been updated to follow the DYK format:

  • ALT0: ... that chronic conditions in autistic people are sometimes misread as "just part of autism", delaying diagnosis and care?
  • ALT1: ... that older autistic adults may go untreated for conditions like sensory loss, pain, or memory decline because their symptoms are wrongly attributed to autism?

Each now appears as a complete question in DYK style and reflects a verified section in the article with inline secondary citations.

5. Quotes from Sources (Optional Suggestion) Reviewer suggestion: Consider quoting the sources in the DYK nomination to make reviewer verification easier. My response:
I’ve added direct quote snippets from Buie et al. (2010), Mason et al. (2019), and Croen et al. (2015) into the nomination template to make verification easier.

“Autistic individuals experience elevated rates of a wide range of chronic physical conditions…” Mason et al. (2019) “Chronic constipation, abdominal pain, and other GI symptoms… are often misinterpreted as behavioral issues in autism.” –Buie et al. (2010) “Autistic adults had significantly higher rates of chronic conditions including hypertension, diabetes, and dementia.” Croen et al. (2015) — Preceding unsigned comment added by PulsarPen (talk • contribs) 00:08, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply, but I'm going to have to ask for a second opinion from another reviewer. I'm not 100% sure that this should pass, and I'm on holiday right now so I don't have time to give this the attention it deserves - but I don't think it's a straightforward pass. (Also, you obviously didn't read the format guideline I linked in the review.) Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 00:26, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Operators and Things

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  • ... that the Nashville Banner said Operators and Things​​​ ​​​​​​​would both interest laymen and impress professionals due to its thorough examination of the unconscious self? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/nashville-banner/172319537/
    • ALT1: ... that a book described as "an absorbing account of life in the dream world of a schizophrenic" was written by an anonymous author? Source: "Operators and Things: The Inner Life of a Schizophrenic". Publishers Weekly. Vol. 207, no. 5. F. Leypoldt. February 3, 1975. p. 44.
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Hillbilly Thomists
    • Comment: Tried my best to come up with some real interesting hooks for article 7 mil, would love other suggestions from the current text or if more is added in the future. ALT1 I was a bit unsure about the wording of anonymous vs pseudonymous, but per discussion at Talk:Operators and Things#Replace anonymous with pseudonymous? landed on this. ALT1 is also linked to an offline source, I've asked the author on their talkpage for a scan or equivalent of the source, given the shifting winds I see in regards to AGF sources.
Created by Therapyisgood (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

PixDeVl (T | C | G) 21:59, 31 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • @PixDeVl: You can just google the quote from Publishers Weekly and look on Google Books and find it that way. Also it's on the back of the 2011 version, I believe, or at the very least it's on the Amazon.com page for the 2011 publishing. Therapyisgood (talk) 01:08, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Therapyisgood: found and verified, thank you! Never thought to just search it funny enough, I queried the whole citation and even combed the Internet Archives a bit for the issue. Cheers! --PixDeVl (T | C | G)
  • How about something like ALT2 '...that the author of the 1958 autobiographical account (memoir?) Operators and Things, describing a schizophrenic author's experiences with "operators", has never been identified?' or even simply ALT3 '...that the anonymous 1958 autobiographical account Operators and Things describes a woman's onset and recovery from schizophrenia, aided by "operators"?'
I like this "has never been identified" version, that's a proper hook for a "did you know". Mateussf (talk) 11:16, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Mateussf: I like that former hook, I'd add that as an ALT2, but it may be a little bit long(WP:DYKTRIM). Not super sure on memoir vs account. --PixDeVl (T | C | G) 15:37, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@PixDeVl: the problem is she was identified, though, for the 1976 publication ("According to the 2011 version, the last time anyone had heard from O'Brien was in 1976, when she wrote an additional chapter for a new version of the book. Her author's blurb for the 1976 publication stated she was "fully recovered" and living outside of Los Angeles."). Therapyisgood (talk) 01:34, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've added ALT names, both ideas are within an acceptable wordcount. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 01:34, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
How about ALT4... that the identity of "Barbara O'Brien", the author of Operators and Things, a 1958 autobiographical account of schizophrenia, has not been publicly revealed?

Review needed. Z1720 (talk) 15:23, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Long enough, new enough. QPQ done and Earwig is clean. ALT4 is interesting and short enough, though expect a prepbuilder to trim it. Per WP:DYKCITE, I must ask for a quote from the source.--Launchballer 19:22, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: See publisher's quote at the bottom of the page under header "BARBARA O'BRIEN". URL now added to article. Therapyisgood (talk) 00:10, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2018–19 College Football Playoff

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Improved to Good Article status by PCN02WPS (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 88 past nominations.

PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 16:02, 28 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]


Articles created/expanded on May 30

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Lü Hung-chih

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Created by CanonNi (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 11 past nominations.

'''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 13:15, 30 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • @CanonNi: Article is new enough and -just- long enough. QPQ has been provided, copyvio not detected (and unlikely due to Taiwanese-only sources). The hook, though, states that Lü is "the longest-serving leader", a factoid which is not mentioned in the article (or in the thenewslens.com article, which was published well before him being leader). Could you provide a mention and a source for that claim? Juxlos (talk) 04:12, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @CanonNi: Zhwiki is not an acceptable WP:RS; could you get another source supporting that claim? Maybe the party's website or somesuch. Also, the claim needs to be within the article - the average reader would not be wandering over to zhwiki. Juxlos (talk) 08:06, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Failing that, you could go with an alternate hook:
Juxlos (talk) 08:09, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Juxlos: Ah, alright. Let's go with ALT1 then, since sources seem to suggest the band still being somewhat active. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 07:13, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Juxlos (talk) 07:16, 1 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Rjjiii, CanonNi, and Juxlos: Pulled per WT:DYK.--Launchballer 09:49, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nancy Broadfield Parkinson, George Mearns Savery, Elizabeth Wilhelmina Jones

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Elizabeth Wilhelmina Jones
Elizabeth Wilhelmina Jones
  • Source: Hewlett, Dorothy (1981). Harrogate College 1893-1973. North Yorkshire, England: Harrogate College. ISBN 9780950742700.
Moved to mainspace by Storye book (talk). Number of QPQs required: 6. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 114 past nominations.

Storye book (talk) 07:49, 4 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • I understand what you're going for with the hook, but is this really interesting to a broad audience? If a reader is unfamiliar with any of the names provided, the hook doesn't really sound all that interesting, it just said that these names were all involved in a particular school. My suggestion would be to propose individual hooks about each person, rather than going with a multi-hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:21, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I disagree; the three articles are best understood if read together. Parkinson, an orphaned female, could never have achieved what she did in that era, without that school, and that school would never have existed as a pioneering, ground-breaking school without those two educational pioneers, Savery and Jones. There is no space in a DYK hook to explain that, and on WP we are not allowed to explain things. Our readers have to work it out. For that, they need to read all three articles. So - sorry, we need this to be a triple. I have added ALT2 and ALT3, which may answer your above concern somewhat. Storye book (talk) 10:01, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think that helps much, even with the additional context. I'm very sorry, but I have struck the hooks for now. I'd like to see first some individual hook proposals first and see if it is at least feasible for them to stand alone. We can revisit the idea for a triple hook if none of them have feasible individual hooks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:44, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the three articles already stand alone as articles. But what they stand for, hookwise, as a set of three is more important. For a woman to attain that position, and achieve that national recognition, requires a level and quality of education which in those days in the UK was not easily available, even for men. I have unstruck ALTs 2 and 3, because I believe we need a second opinion on this. New reviewers: please check out the above discussion. Thank you. Storye book (talk) 08:00, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As I said above, I am open to the possibility of a triple hook. I was not closing the door on it entirely. I just said that you needed to at least try to propose first individual hooks for the three. We could then discuss those individual hooks and see if any of them met the interest guidelines. If those hooks would not work out, then the triple hook idea could be revisited. As it stands, you did not even try to propose individual hooks: you were already closed to the idea.
Also, in response to your comment, "For a woman to attain that position, and achieve that national recognition, requires a level and quality of education which in those days in the UK was not easily available, even for men," that arguably counts as specialist information. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:04, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, reading through the articles right now, if your point is to show that Parkinson was an exceptional woman who deserves recognition, then that is arguably even more of an argument in favor of an individual hook at least for her, because a triple hook would be like tying her to other notable people instead of allowing her to stand on her own. I have gone through all three articles and all three were accomplished people in their own right: I do not think a triple hook that is primarily about Parkinson would give justice to Savery or Jones. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:08, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • If you really want, I can offer a compromise: given how Savery and Jones worked together and both of their articles devote large portions to their collaboration, I am open to a double hook with Savery and Jones, although I would also suggest at least trying to suggest individual hooks for either as possible options. However, I would still recommend that Parkinson have a separate individual hook. As it stands, her article does not even mention Savery, only Jones, and even then, only in passing, and I'm not really a fan of the idea of a hook about her being primarily about her links to others. The more about I think this, while I'm still open to the idea of a triple hook, the more I think it is not the best option and should be more-or-less a last resort. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:24, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have asked for a second opinion, and you have written above, twice, that you are open to a triple hook. That request of mine would include asking the new reviewer (or possibly reviewers, since it's 3 articles) to review the articles properly, and to consider ALT3, so I have unstruck it. Remember that you have only commented on the hook(s), and you have not actually reviewed the articles, so we still need a reviewer. Please don't edit-war over hook-striking. The above hooks do not break WP rules; they do not lie or mislead. Your striking is only about your own opinion.
As for specialist information - how many first-world countries can you think of, where in the World War II era, women could - as easily as men - hold top government civil service positions, and get national awards for it? I think that most citizens of first-world countries would not expect to see women in top government posts during World War II. Think of all the photos you have seen of groups of important top government people signing documents at that time. Do you remember seeing women frequently among all the male suits and uniforms? I am not saying that there were no women in those formal photographs. I am saying that women officials in those photographs were uncommon. So no, that is not specialist information. Storye book (talk) 11:24, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I do not understand why you are so close-minded to the idea of individual hooks about the three people, especially when I gave good reasons to move away from the triple hook. I mean, the current triple hook makes it seem like we're only really talking about Parkinson rather than also Savery and Jones: do you really want a hook that downplays Savery and Jones? In fact, the hook arguably downplays all three subjects: it reduces Parkinson to just someone who went to a school, and it reduces Savery and Jones to being a school founder. If we went with individual hooks, we could at least describe and promote their individual achievements. Yes, there's context behind Parkinson going to that school, but is that context going to be obvious in the hook? No, and that is the kind of hook that the guidelines explicitly discourage: hooks that are reliant on specialist information, or at least hooks that require explanations to be understandable.
As for the unstriking, you were the one who unstruck the hooks after I struck them, even though I gave my reasons as to why they were struck. If anything, you are acting in bad faith if you are accusing me of edit-warring, when this could have been avoided if you simply stated disagreement with the striking without actually unstriking the hooks yourself. You are free to disagree with a reviewer (not necessarily me), but accusing them of edit-warring, when arguably you should not have unstruck the hooks in the first place, is arguably showing bad faith. My suggestion remains to move away from that angle for now, and to revisit it if other options fall through. For what it is worth, I asked on Discord for opinions regarding ALT3 (in a neutral manner), and the responses said that ALT3 was not interesting to a broad audience. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:39, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • In the interest of this moving forward, I will be reviewing the three articles:
  • Nancy Broadfield Parkinson: checkY the article was moved to mainspace on May 30, so it is new enough. It is long enough, adequately sourced. Two QPQs have been done and they were proper, so they are accepted. I did not detect any close paraphrasing.
  • Elizabeth Wilhelmina Jones: checkY also moved to mainspace on May 30, and meets the length, sourcing, and paraphrasing requirements. Two QPQs have been provided for it.
  • George Mearns Savery: checkY moved to mainspace on the same date, I did not find close paraphrasing, DYK requirements are met, two QPQs done.
I have gone through all three articles, and I'm actually surprised that you did not even propose what is arguably the most interesting aspect about Parkinson. I'll be proposing it as the individual hook for her:
Nancy Broadfield Parkinson
That's actually a standout moment of her life, far more than just simply talking about her going to a school. I would highly suggest focusing on this aspect of her as it is a major accomplishment, and also an interesting aspect of her life that is not reliant on having a background in the history of British education. My only concern about this aspect is that I could not find any UNESCO sites that mention Parkinson, but maybe there are offline sources about it.
George Mearns Savery
As for Jones and Savery, I've proposed individual hooks for both of them, as well as a double hook:
Let me know what you think about these hooks so that we can ask for a new reviewer to review them (I cannot review these hooks myself). In the interest of compromise, I am even unstriking ALT3 to allow for that reviewer to also consider it in addition to the individual hooks and the double hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:19, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: Thank you for all your hard work on this one. OK, I'll accept Parkinson as a single, and Savery and Jones as a double nom. I have added the quotation from the source for your ALT-NBP Parkinson hook. The British Council, being a government department, is a sufficiently authoritative source for the hook, and is online and verifiable.
I accept your hooks, with the exception of the following: I have adjusted your ALT-G/E hook (i.e. replaced "founding" with "development"), because Jones was not around when the school was founded, but they collaborated in a very intense manner for a short while over the development of the school (then Savery became ill and died, so that Jones carried on the development, but nevertheless, the collaboration was important, and is mentioned in a number of sources in both articles.). In the same hook, I have replaced "women's" with "girls'", because in that era girls did not come of age (I be legally considered women) until they were 21 years old. The school taught girls aged roughly 5-18 years. Storye book (talk) 09:09, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The infobox ID image from the Parkinson article could be used with her new hook if required. I have added it to her hook above.. I do believe, though, that the above Jones image should be used in the double nom, because it is so eye-catching and beautiful. (And anyway, there does appear to be a reluctance to use ID pics of old, bearded white men on DYK). Storye book (talk) 09:01, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Now, I have no idea how to re-jig this nom into a single and double. BlueMoonset can you fix that? Thank you. Storye book (talk) 09:01, 14 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]
I mean that I could not find a third-party source other than the British Council that confirmed the UNESCO fact, since ideally I would have wanted a third-party source for a rather exceptional claim, or even an actual UNESCO source. Since Parkinson was associated with the British Council, they are not exactly an independent source. Anyway, since you've agreed to the new hook proposals, I'm asking for a new reviewer to review all the options proposed so far (including ALT3 and my proposals). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:06, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't agree that such a formal and established British government source as the British Council should need a confirmatory citation. Are you disrespecting the government of my country? However I have added to Parkinson's article a photo of Parkinson as a UNESCO delegate, and added a sentence about it with a newspaper citation. Storye book (talk) 11:05, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No need to be offended. It's just that some editors at DYK tend to be skeptical of non-independent or primary sources, so it's mostly for their benefit. I am personally okay with the source as I'm not the kind of editor who's particular about them, but I know that some editors tend to challenge such sources. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:07, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fire-eye

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White-backed fire-eye antbird
White-backed fire-eye antbird
  • ... that the fire-eye antbirds' (pictured) calls instead of songs are used to tell the species apart?
  • Source: In a 2017 study, researchers found that "when [they] examined Pyriglena

vocalizations in this context, the outcomes revealed substantial diversity in their calls, rather than their songs [thus it] underscores the need to consider all vocalizations in taxonomic studies."

https://doi.org/10.11646%2Fzootaxa.4291.2.3
    • Reviewed:
5x expanded by Tkronos1 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Tkronos1 (talk) 13:08, 30 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

@Jaireeodell: Hooks must not contain parentheses outside of (pictured) per WP:DYK200.--Launchballer 16:41, 8 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: Thanks! I didn't know that. Would this work? ALT1 ... that the fire-eye antbirds' (pictured) use calls, not songs, to identify different antbird species? Jaireeodell (talk) 21:36, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fine by me, though I recommend ALT1a: ... that fire-eye antbirds (pictured) use calls to identify different antbird species rather than songs?. It's the same as ALT0 with no new information, so you could approve it yourself.--Launchballer 13:21, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Launchballer and Jaireeodell: Are we certain that the source says it is the birds who use these calls? To me it sounds like it says that it is the researchers who do. Surtsicna (talk) 18:14, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Well, they aren't calling to blend in with other species, are they? Even so, to your point, would this work: ALT2: ... that fire-eye antbirds (pictured) may be identified from different antbird species by their calls rather than their songs?. Jaireeodell (talk) 19:11, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Werner Mamugwe

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  • Source: Oiva Angula. SWAPO Captive: A Comrade’s Experience of Betrayal and Torture. Penguin Random House South Africa, 2018
Moved to mainspace by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 436 past nominations.

Soman (talk) 23:32, 31 May 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Dwkaminski (talk) 13:54, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Chelsea Wolfe (BMX)

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* ... that Chelsea Wolfe is the first openly transgender Olympian from the United States?

** ALT1: ... that despite being scheduled to participate in the 2024 BMX World Championships, Chelsea Wolfe was suddenly disqualified for being transgender? Source: https://www.bicycling.com/racing/a44772359/chelsea-wolfe/

Created by ArtemisiaGentileschiFan (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

ArtemisiaGentileschiFan (talk) 00:35, 2 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Tiny issues with close paraphrasing (see Earwig). Both hooks are interesting, although "was" should not be used to refer to living persons because it sounds like she died. I would change first hook "was" to "is". I also couldn't find the statement in the source this was paired with (that she's the first trans Olympian), however, other sources in the article verify this, like this and this. I like the 2nd hook a little more; please add inline citations at the end of the sentence in the article per DYK rules, so at the end of this: However, she was unable to compete due to the Union Cycliste Internationale implementing a new rule banning transgender sportspeople from participation. Overall nice article, just work on close paraphrasing, adding inline citations, and slight hook tweaks. @ArtemisiaGentileschiFan: jolielover♥talk 04:44, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Jolielover: Hi, thanks for the review. I have implemented the changes you suggested. ArtemisiaGentileschiFan (talk) 11:33, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@ArtemisiaGentileschiFan: Thanks for that! Both hooks are ready to go :) I think both are interesting, but have favour for the second one. jolielover♥talk 17:14, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Take it elsewhere.
She wasn't an Olympian, she didn't compete at the Olympics, she was an unused alternate. The source used doesn't call her an Olympian anyway. Fram (talk) 15:50, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Full review needed.--Fram (talk) 16:09, 5 June 2025 (UTC) Reviewer doesn't seem to have read my objection, the section below where an editor from the Olympics project agreed with the objection, or the sources they claim support the first hook. [6] says "Wolfe, who is a reserve athlete, will only officially compete in the Summer Games if one of the other two qualifying riders — Hannah Roberts and Perris Benegas — drops out." This didn't happen, so she didn't officially compete. Which is why she isn't listed at the official site Olympics.com. The second source is even more explicitly unsupportive of the hook[7]: "BMX Rider Chelsea Wolfe Might Become 1st Out Trans U.S. Olympian" is the title: how much more clear can it be that "might become" is not an acceptable source to claim "is"? A very disappointing reviewing standard. Fram (talk) 16:09, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Fram: First of all, to comment on the DYK nomination, you need to comment on that template page, not the talk page. Secondly, the sources do support the claim that she is an Olympian. The Palm Beach Post source states that she is the first out trans athlete on Team USA in Olympics and that Wolfe will be the first out trans athlete on Team USA, where she'll serve as an alternate in the women's BMX freestyle competition this weekend. The title of the bicycling.com source explicitly calls her Olympian Chelsea Wolfe. ArtemisiaGentileschiFan (talk) 16:36, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I commented about the two sources used by the reviewer to approve the hook incorrectly. But this is even worse. I checked the Bicycling article, athe actual title (plus subtitle) is "Who’s Afraid of the Big Bad Wolfe? Chelsea Wolfe talks candidly about the UCI’s ban on trans women athletes, mental health, and what we’re missing when it comes to protecting women’s sport"[8] No "Olympian" there! Fram (talk) 16:46, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
A member of Team USA is definitionally an Olympian because Team USA is a term referring to all American Olympians. ArtemisiaGentileschiFan (talk) 17:36, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
She isn't to be found on the Team USA list of Olympians though[9]. Fram (talk) 17:46, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That doesn't matter. She's still a member of the team. ArtemisiaGentileschiFan (talk) 18:00, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • 1. there's an alt, do we need to litigate the Olympian thing? 2. "selected for Team USA at the Olympics" is an always objectively correct phrasing if you want to use the original hook and not litigate it, 3. I think we are talking what culturally counts as an Olympian, which can differ between countries, but in the USA certainly being selected to the team and taken to the Games counts, 4. if we are talking purely about the potential to win a medal, then here it refers to the Tokyo Olympics and given the circumstances in 2021, alternates were included in the team medal count whether they actively competed or not. 5. the hook isn't saying "Olympian" in isolation but as part of the superlative "first/openly transgender/Olympian/from the US" - this is something which is readily sourced and a "known fact" in itself, even if someone was to dispute 1/4 of it. To conclude, if we want to streamline this nom there are ways to "fix" this without having to actually debate the issue, but it also makes sense IMO to accept "Olympian" as correct in Wolfe's case. Kingsif (talk) 22:00, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • 1. Yes, because Alt0 was also accepted and without objecting, might have been chosen by whoever created preps and queues. 3. We write for a worldwide perspective, something which Americans would consider correct (assuming this is true) but people from elsewhere would consider incorrect is not a good choice for a hook, certainly not when the "incorrect" position is supported by official sites (even the US one). 4. If you don't compete, you don't have the potential to win a medal. Your comment that "alternates were included in the team medal count whether they actively competed or not." is completely irrelevant, this is an individual event, not a team event, and medal counts are never by number of people on the team anyway (the medal count doesn't increase by 23 when you win the soccer tournament, it increases by 1). An alternate BMX rider doesn't get a medal when the actual competitor finishes on the podium. 5. Again, what are you going on about? If a sentence takes 4 elements to make a claim, and one of the four is incorrect, then we don't accept it because it is 75% right.
    • Basically, you have presented no actual good arguments why we should accept Olympian apart from "but in America we consider her an Olympian", which coupled with a number of blatantly wrong assumptions you make and the fact that even Team USA doesn't list her as an Olympian makes me wonder whether even that "but in America" claim has any validity. Fram (talk) 10:34, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • I should also point out that the USOC considers the team for the 1980 Moscow Games as "Olympians" despite the fact they announced they would boycott the Games four months before it started. Topcardi (talk) 09:31, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • For 5. I clearly mean that it is a verifiable fact. Sources refer to Wolfe as the first openly transgender US Olympian as fact #1 about her. It's what she's known for. Differing opinions on whether Olympian has to mean actively competed or just part of the team taken don't change that. I'd also suggest, Fram, you take the demeaning act elsewhere, are you looking for a solution or disruption. Kingsif (talk) 23:08, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
        • She is not "known" for being an Olympian, she is known for being a great BMX rider. Please don't reduce her to one disputed factoid. And when newspapers are contradicted by authoritative sources (and other articles), then we don't put such a disputed claim as an undisputed fact in Wikivoice in articles (never mind on the main page). The IOC doesn't consider her an Olympian, Team USA doesn't consider her an Olympian, only sloppy or overenthusiastic journalists called her this. And your clarification still doesn't indicate what "the hook isn't saying "Olympian" in isolation but as part of the superlative " has to do with anything: whether it was in isolation or with the other 3 claims makes absolutely no difference. The definition of "Olympian" doesn't magically change if you modify it by talking about a "transgender Olympian" or whatever. Fram (talk) 08:29, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
          • It feels like you’re being deliberately obtuse, or trying to reframe my point inaccurately in a way you can argue against, but let me try to explain a different way to AGF. If the point of the hook was to say she is an Olympian, or an American Olympian, it wouldn’t have been approved on interesting grounds. We know that the hook is not trying to do that. Wolfe being “an Olympian” is not an individual fact stated in the hook - but the idea that she is, is part of a superlative that has multiple parts that only work together and which, as a single complete statement, is at least more interesting (and, of course, verifiable). We can debate defining Olympian, though you clearly will not listen to others on the point, but I already said the complete statement is not trying to define Olympian. Referring to someone as an Olympian is a statement of sporting merit, and I can only assume your fight comes from a place of wanting to protect that - but surely you recognise that such a superlative as used in the hook is not focused on sport, but on visibility. And surely you recognise, nominated in Pride month, that’s the point. If the wikivoice is so objectionable, why are you not proposing alternatives that replace “is” with “was described as” or similar? Would that work for you? Kingsif (talk) 01:40, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
            • My objection has nothing to do with "interesting", only with factual or not. We shouldn´t repeat factual errors by some sources on the main page. We pull hooks all the time where some sources describe e.g a person as the first to do something, when we find evidence that this isn´t true. We don´t change such hooks to the weaselworded "has been described as" or anything similar, we pull and try to find another, this time indisputable fact, not a disputed claim. That´s standard practice, and has nothing to do with being 9nteresting, pride month, of part of a complex claim. Fram (talk) 06:46, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
              • I - bro, do you properly read what I say? Could you give it a try instead of deciding your comebacks first? I suggested your objection might be from wanting to "protect the sanctity of what it means to be an Olympian", which I'm glad to know it isn't BTW. I didn't mention the interesting factor in terms of your objection at all, only as a frame to try explain my view that if defining Olympian was the point, it would've been thrown out (or you could say it was uninteresting and throw it out, or I would) regardless - so it follows that defining Olympian is besides the point. As for your new line of objection, trying to invoke a DYK standard, that's for objective things like someone claiming they're the tallest person. Without an independent source, we'd never put that in wikivoice, and if there were sources claiming other taller people, we'd not post it. In this case, however, we have independent sources, and there aren't sources claiming other people to be the first openly transgender Olympian from the United States. It's not a disputed claim, not in RS. Your OR means you dispute part of a wider statement, which DYK frankly doesn't care about. Kingsif (talk) 20:50, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
                • "definkng Olympian is besides the point"? I don´t think it´d worth discussing this any further with you if you don´t even acknowledge the basic issue. Fram (talk) 21:35, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
                  • You've only now realised that's the part we disagree on? Sure, you want the point to be how we define Olympian because that's what you want to litigate and think you can 'win', but it should've been clear from my first 'point 5.' that my fundamental disagreement re. your objection is that the hook is not hinging on whether Wolfe is an Olympian or not (and so I figure it can be considered irrelevant). Are we at an impasse, or do you accept this is a valid way of reading the point of the hook, and wish to debate the merits of this reading and whether that makes the Olympian issue moot?

                    Or, shall we return once again to my first comment and decide to just not use that hook or reconfigure its phrasing to something unobjectionably verifiable and true. I will continue offering this easy way out, and can certainly continue arguing a philosophical and practical stance if you insist on refusing the easy option just to make whatever you want to be your point. Kingsif (talk) 22:05, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

                  • NB. of course, since it seems that what I thought was your big point is not actually so, I can't imagine what your reason to argue the toss rather than take an actionable solution is. Maybe you just got lost in argument for argument's sake, after coming here just to say that you think how DYK interprets "the truth" is/should be more strict than WP's policy on verifiability. It isn't, and that's also not something that will change at one DYK nom - so if you don't want to take a hook change compromise, and still think absence of info elsewhere trumps RS, I suggest you start a wider discussion at DYK talk. Kingsif (talk) 23:30, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I don´t think it useful to continue this discussion with someone who believes that whether she is an Olympian or not is irrelevant for the hook(!!!), but as for the "no evidence" part: we have the lists of Olympians according to authoritative sources, the IOC and for this case Team USA. Both don´t include her. This is pretty solid evidence. See also the discussion on the article talk pga, where others have chimed in about this as well. Fram (talk) 07:17, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Full review needed.--Fram (talk) 12:12, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fram, seeing as you have struck both hooks above, what exactly do you want reviewed? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:18, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Your actions? Feel free to tell me which icon to use to indicate that the previous green tick should be disregarded. Also feel free to tell me why you wouldn't re-review when the hooks weren't struck, but now are confused about what to rereview now they have been struck because otherwise you used them in the preps already. Fram (talk) 12:22, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@ArtemisiaGentileschiFan, Jolielover, and Kingsif: do you understand what's going on here or what Fram is trying to say? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:03, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I do not. I understand that Fram disagrees with the characterization of Wolfe as an Olympian but I don’t know why the alt hook was struck or why a new review is needed for it. ArtemisiaGentileschiFan (talk) 16:30, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The above is generating more heat than light, so I have hatted it, and will hear no more about this from either of you. I would have proposed ALT2: ... that Chelsea Wolfe was nearly the first transgender Olympian from the United States?, but it appears to be unworth the ordure. @ArtemisiaGentileschiFan:, as I don't consider ALT1 to meet WP:DYKHOOKBLP (it can't possibly be fair to boil down this very talented woman to a single act of hatred), I suggest proposing a hook that does.--Launchballer 17:22, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, here's another alt. ALT3: ... that a professional BMX cyclist began riding when she was six years old? ArtemisiaGentileschiFan (talk) 20:09, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure if that meets WP:DYKINT. Many people learn to ride bicycles at that age.--Launchballer 20:21, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
To be honest I'm not really sure what other hook to do. I can't do a hook about her going to the Olympics, I can't do a hook about her disqualification for being trans, and her early and personal life are pretty normal. ArtemisiaGentileschiFan (talk) 01:20, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
How about ALT4: ... that Chelsea Wolfe is the first openly transgender sportsperson to qualify for the Olympics as an alternate? ArtemisiaGentileschiFan (talk) 01:45, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Given the pushback against "first" hooks lately, is there anything usable that is not a "first" hook? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:25, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT5: ... that BMX cyclist Chelsea Wolfe traveled across Florida in a recreational vehicle for competitions as a child? ArtemisiaGentileschiFan (talk) 04:59, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]


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June 2025 Gaza Freedom Flotilla

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Created by DERPALERT (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 301 past nominations.

Launchballer 01:07, 12 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Thanks, Launchballer. Here's one more:

  • ALT1: ... that in June 2025 Israeli forces intercepted European humanitarians in international waters and forcibly took them to Israel?

Surtsicna (talk) 08:22, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

With apologies for nitpicking, 'International waters' (although informally used a lot in this context) is not strictly applicable- closest more accurate term without getting too verbose would be 'non-territorial waters'.Yadsalohcin (talk) 10:42, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - also not neutral
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Apologies, much as per Yad above. This is a well written article, and would be acceptable in many contexts, but the many-headed Israeli/Palestinian conflict is one of the Wikipedia's most active third rails (second only to ... Capitalization Disputes? ), where we've got to work hard to get as close to neutrality as we can, and there are a couple of visible and important balance issues.

  • The most obvious one/or two is the title and the lead: "A flotilla was organized in June 2025 by the Freedom Flotilla Coalition" - well, no. Unless I'm missing something in the article, it was one ship, and not a particularly large one, a dozen sources say "boat". One ship or boat is not a flotilla (this link is also in the article lead!) any more than one soldier is an army or one mugger is a gang (one man band is an exception, not the rule). And the majority of the article sources also make this quite clear, most of them say "aid boat", "aid ship", etc. Yes, it was sent by the Flotilla Coalition, and it is part of a series, so I could, possibly, see the argument that the title could stay, but our text should be clear that it was no more a flotilla than Larry King was a monarch.
  • Then there are the hooks, "a humanitarian vessel" or "European humanitarians". That's loaded language, and it is not at all clear that this language would be accepted by all sides as a neutral description of the event. Yes, that is what the proponents would say, but a noticeable number of critics, the Israelis - of course - but also a number of US politicians, and the president of Argentina (!), have basically described the event as primarily a publicity stunt and an actual attempt at humanitarianism (is that a word?) way down the list of motivations. I'd be OK with describing it as "aid vessel", since that can be interpreted as either humanitarian or publicity aid, or perhaps you can think of even a better neutral phrasing.
  • Again, I like most of the article, only these few things need fixing. But they're a prominent few things. GRuban (talk) 15:10, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For now, pinging @Surtsicna and DERPALERT:. If they don't respond, I'll take a look.--Launchballer 15:21, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I did that too, on their talk pages. I know formally you're the DYK nominator, but you didn't write the article so ... --GRuban (talk) 15:40, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Surtsicna, DERPALERT, and Launchballer:--GRuban (talk) 01:42, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Flotilla appears to be their brand name, so I capitalised it throughout the article. I think we might be getting into WP:FALSEBALANCE in entertaining a very tiny minority, but in the interests of keeping the peace: ALT0a: ... that a recent comment made by a sitting US senator was perceived as threatening military action against an aid vessel?--Launchballer 02:12, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the attempt, but not really there yet. Here are three instances of the flotilla/boat issues in the lead, and a couple of other lead issues:

  • the Freedom Flotilla Coalition (FFC) organized a Flotilla - if it's being used as a brand name it's redundant (The McDonald's company manages the McDonald's group of McDonald's restaurants that serve McDonald's hamburgers, McDonald's fries, and McDonald's shakes...), if it's being used as a collective noun for a group of ships, it's inaccurate (it wasn't a group)
  • The Flotilla, which was led by the UK-flagged vessel Madleen - no it wasn't led by, it consisted of. If I'm running down the street alone I'm not leading a race.
  • The flotilla followed an earlier attempt - not capitalized
  • Also the title of the article isn't bolded in the lead, which I'm pretty sure is a requirement for all of our articles, not just DYK
  • and there is one long paragraph and two one-sentence paragraphs, which probably isn't a DYK requirement, but would be nice to fix.
  • Just searching for lowercase "flotilla" in the text I see one in second paragraph of Voyage, one in second paragraph of Responses:To Voyage:International, you rephrased or capitalized the others.
  • ALT0a is kind of complex, which makes it not that hooky; a comment by a US senator is rather small beer for what was a pretty famous international incident that didn't really involve the US: we have a UK vessel, a Swedish activist, a French MEP, and of course Israel and Palestine.

If I suggest how to address these issues, can you do the actual work? Otherwise it seems like I'm not reviewing any more, I'm doing the work. Here is one set of suggestions for addressing the issues, feel free to use different ways:

  • The June 2025 Gaza Freedom Flotilla was an attempt by the Freedom Flotilla Coalition (FFC) to ...
  • The Flotilla consisted of the UK-flagged vessel Madleen. It departed ...
  • Start a new paragraph with: The people onboard the Madleen included... The last two lead sentences join that, to make two relatively equal sized paragraphs. The first one has two long sentences and one short sentence, the second has four medium sized sentences.
  • You can say Flotilla in the last lead sentence as the "brand name", as in the second sentence and the article title.
  • "flotilla" elsewhere I listed above
  • For the hook, there seem to be a plethora of more interesting opportunities here. How about something more straightforward - ... that Israeli forces boarded and seized an international aid vessel bound for... ? ...that Greta Thunberg was one of ...? ...that Greta Thunberg and Rima Hassan were taken off...? ...that an international group of activists were detained attempting to ...? --GRuban (talk) 12:06, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed all uses of 'flotilla' outside of "Freedom Flotilla" and rearranged the paragraphing to comply with MOS:PARA. Technically, it isn't always necessary to bold the title of the article (see MOS:FIRST) but I've done this anyway. ALT2: ... that a recent international aid vessel bound for Gaza counted among its crew Greta Thunberg and a French Member of Parliament?--Launchballer 18:35, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Michelle Pfeiffer (Ethel Cain song)

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Improved to Good Article status by Locust member (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 299 past nominations.

Launchballer 00:07, 12 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

I did mention at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Quit Dreaming and Get on the Beam that 5000+ views a day says a broad audience knows who she is and that therefore almost any hook would pass the 'intriguing' part of WP:DYKINT. I'm not going to refuse to suggest a "normal" hook at this point, but given that pop music hooks do poorly at WP:DYKSTATS (I was shocked by how badly Push 2 Start did), I strongly recommend that we go with an April Fool's hook for this (albeit maybe not this one).--Launchballer 01:03, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Eh, two other editors objected to the hook (not just me), so it seems that there is loose consensus at least to move away from this angle or even from an April Fools' angle entirely. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:06, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's a good hook that creates plenty of intrigue and should get plenty of hits, indeed, it would probably do better if it wasn't used on April Fool's Day (when a bunch of questionable hooks tend to degrade overall impact) but just used as a standard quirky. Not every hook needs to spell out every aspect of the topic - probably half the hooks posted omit detail to create more interest. Gatoclass (talk) 02:51, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Gotta agree with Naruto, this is not "interesting". The only thought that I am left with after reading it is "where's the rest of the sentence?" And just because a broad audience knows who someone is does not mean that "almost any hook" would be intriguing. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 13:16, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shorter hooks tend to be more effective, and omitting the quote marks would only be allowed on April Fool's Day.
ALT1: ... that Michelle Pfeiffer has been described as "a breath of fresh air"?
ALT2: ... that a Michelle Pfeiffer performance typically lasts about 4 minutes and 31 seconds?
ALT3: ... that Michelle Pfeiffer has been described as "stylish"?
ALT4: ... that Michelle Pfeiffer has been described as possessing "a cresting emotionality grand enough to fill the tallest IMAX screen"?
ALT5: ... that Michelle Pfeiffer was inspired by Michelle Pfeiffer?--Launchballer 16:54, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT5 seems interesting.--User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 18:23, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I can live with ALT5. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:30, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

1910 Italy v France football match

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Italy team before the match
Italy team before the match
Created by Wikipediæ philosophia (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.

Wikipediæ philosophia (talk) 22:25, 7 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall:

Wikipediæ philosophia, there is uncited material in the article I have tagged which needs citing. The article also needs a copyedit for prose. These are issues I would expect the reviewer to pick up. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:17, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
apologies I reviewed that DYK before the article underwent major changes and was tagged for copyedit. Moondragon21 (talk) 13:52, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Z1720:,  Fixed (Thanks to User Vaseline, who gave me a hand). Wikipediæ philosophia (talk) 19:31, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Z1720:, frankly, no. Concerning the copy edit, probably it would be more sensible to ping someone who may be interested in. I always strive to write as correctly as possible, but my English isn’t C2 yet, lol. Regarding the lacking sources, I’ll fix asap. Wikipediæ philosophia (talk) 16:00, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Wikipediæ philosophia: The Guild of Copy Editors might be able to help with the copy edit. Z1720 (talk) 16:03, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Catastrophically evaporating planet

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Created by Fdfexoex (talk) and Meli thev (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

jlwoodwa (talk) 01:40, 6 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • article is long enough, new enough, and within policy. Hook is short enough and interesting. QPQ is not required. Note to the nominator(s), next time please provide a source for the hook in the nomination. I am using this one, btw. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:59, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Peace discourse in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict

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  • ... that the goal of "peace" may mean different things to Israelis and Palestinians?
  • Source: Sambaraju & McVittie 2018, p. 116: “There remains the question of what is to be, or indeed can be, done about the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. One useful starting point would be to reconsider the use of talk of peace and violence in this context. If the term ‘peace’ is indeed nothing more than ‘an attractive but empty box’ (Gavriely-Nuri, 2010, p. 566), into which anyone can place and argue for what is to count as peace, then it can achieve little to retain this as the most desirable description of an outcome. Equally, where it becomes bound up with expectations (or lack of expectations) of international actors, then ‘peace’ potentially does little more than add layers of misunderstanding to existing complexities and to obscure what is at issue.”
Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 82 past nominations.

Onceinawhile (talk) 19:17, 7 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

OK, how about:
Onceinawhile (talk) 22:38, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think those are better, with 1 being more factual and 2 being more interesting in my opinion. I’ll leave the full review to someone more experienced and less involved, but feel free to ping me if there is no timely review available. FortunateSons (talk) 19:48, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Onceinawhile ALT2 is more interesting, however I don't see 'security maintained through oppressive military control – has not proven sustainable' or similar explicitly stated in the article. Am I missing something? TarnishedPathtalk 05:39, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@TarnishedPath: the first part is in there: Supporters of Israel, particularly those on the right-wing, primarily advocate for a negative peace or oppressive peace, where peace means security for Israelis with continuing control over, oppression of, or subjugation of Palestinians. I have just added two more sources, with quotes, to support the sentence.
With respect to the "has not proven sustainable", sadly I don't think a source is needed to prove such a statement as we sit here in June 2025, per WP:SKYBLUE. Onceinawhile (talk) 20:13, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Onceinawhile, it was specifically the "has not proven sustainable" bit that I was having trouble finding in the article. While that might be SKYBLUE to you and me I think someone might pick it up during the review process. TarnishedPathtalk 23:45, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@TarnishedPath: thanks for clarifying – I have added a source and a quote. Onceinawhile (talk) 14:34, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article created 7 June and nominated the same day. Earwig comes up as 52.2%, however this is a consequence of usage of quotes in references. Both ALT1 and ALT2 are interesting and supported by sources. I have a preference for ALT2 which I think is more interesting but either of the ALTs are good. QPQ done. Good to go. TarnishedPathtalk 08:57, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Gatoclass pulled the hook yesterday from the queue with an edit summary of "hook issues, possible article issues". Pinging Onceinawhile and TarnishedPath. SL93 (talk) 23:29, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If the hook is the primary issue, there are two others which are also interesting which can be used. @Gatoclass: can we get some clarification please? TarnishedPathtalk 23:47, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The original hook above looks fine.
With regard to the article, it isn't irredeemable, but using words like "oppressive" in Wikipedia's voice is inappropriate and needs to be properly attributed. Gatoclass (talk) 09:24, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Gatoclass: "oppressive" is directly supported by scholarly sources in this context, as quoted in the article. This is a sensitive topic, so we must find the optimal language - not too strong and not too weak. The word “oppressive” is better than stronger words like apartheid, persecuting, dehumanizing, terrorizing, and better than doublespeak like governing or administering, that obscure the topic at hand. Its usage here is carefully thought through:
  • The word is factual: encapsulating the well-known Israeli restrictions on Palestinian movement, goods, basic utilities, speech, assembly, self-determination, residency, trade, and legal rights around matters like home demolitions and administrative detentions.
  • The word is carefully contextualized: While the word on its own can raise a question of justice/morality, its use here is clearly and consistently subordinated to the Israeli justification of peace and security. This ensures it is appropriately and neutrally contextualized in both the hook and the article.
The intention is to communicate the underlying debate on the topic of peace - Israelis primarily want security, Palestinians primarily want fundamental rights, and Israelis primarily aim for security at the expense of those Palestinian rights.
Onceinawhile (talk) 10:02, 4 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kamla Jaan

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  • Sources:
  1. Ambreesh Mishra (July 23, 2007). "First Eunuch Mayor of India – Kamala Jaan". India Today. Archived from the original on 2019-11-02. Retrieved 2019-11-02.
  2. Haviland, Charles (2002-08-29). "India's first eunuch mayor unseated". BBC. Retrieved 2025-03-14.
  • Reviewed:
Moved to mainspace by Toadspike (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Luke1437 (talk) 18:53, 8 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

I strongly recommend shortening this to:
  • ALT3: ... that Kamla Jaan became India's first eunuch mayor in 2000?
"Eunuch" can be swapped for "third gender" or "trans"; sources generally say they are interchangeable. We cannot say that she was elected in 2000. The sources are ambiguous, but from what I can tell she was probably elected in 1999 and took office in January 2000. Finally, I oppose ALT1 for being boring and I have made some grammatical fixed to ALT2, though the "quota" part still doesn't read smoothly. Toadspike [Talk] 18:17, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In my opinion this "first" hook has strong sourcing to back it up, but if a non-"first" hook is needed, I suggest a condensed version of ALT1:
  • ALT4: ... that Kamla Jaan, a hijra and mayor of Katni, was removed from office because the electoral rolls listed her as male?
Source: [10]. ALT1's wording makes it hard to understand and thus not as interesting. Toadspike [Talk] 19:24, 11 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Luke1437: The article is new and long enough, but close paraphrasing is a big problem. The BBC article seems to have been practically copied. Other than that, the article has an immense potential to produce a good hook. I would suggest a hook that mentions how she was an illiterate eunuch angle whose candidacy looked like a prank until she actually won. Surtsicna (talk) 18:58, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Surtsicna, woah there, CLOP is a serious accusation (which I wish you'd have pinged me about). I disagree that I closely paraphrased the BBC article. Aside for two individual sentences, it is used for a paragraph in the Identity section; this is the only use long enough that I could see CLOP being an issue. But if you look closely, a lot of information comes from the NYT article (also cited for that paragraph) and isn't in the BBC article at all, such as "most hijras identify as feminine", "respected for their role in guarding harems", and the mention that hijras have no heirs, all of which is only in the NYT piece. The rest I believe is paraphrased sufficiently. For example, the clause "voter frustration with the large political parties" paraphrases a full paragraph in the NYT article and "seen by disillusioned voters as a way of snubbing the two biggest parties" in the BBC article. I find it hard to see where content has been "practically copied", but if you disagree I would appreciate a more detailed explanation. Toadspike [Talk] 13:49, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for not pinging, Toadspike. Here is our text:

Hijras were traditionally regarded as auspicious, respected for their role in guarding harems, but in recent times have often been treated with contempt. At the time of Jaan's entry into politics, hijras were gaining prominence as political candidates due to voter frustration with the large political parties. As hijras live in communes and have no family ties or heirs, they were perceived as independent of special interests and better able to represent the people.

Here is BBC's:

Traditionally regarded as auspicious, eunuchs nowadays are commonly treated with contempt. But recently, increasing numbers across India have found an unlikely niche in politics, popular because they stand as independents and are seen by disillusioned voters as a way of snubbing the two biggest parties. Having no family ties and usually living in communes, they're also able to portray themselves as likely to serve the people rather than their own interests.

For me, this is close paraphrasing. If you disagree and cannot/will not rephrase, perhaps we can summon another reviewer for a third opinion Surtsicna (talk) 15:15, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That is a full three sentences, which includes at least two facts not present in the BBC article. I am no expert on copyright, but I don't think that's long enough to be a copyright issue even if it were a word-for-word quotation (this brings to mind the most unpleasant RfA in recent memory...and yes, these three sentences are less than 79 words long). A lot of this also falls under WP:LIMITED – how many ways can I say "regarded as auspicious", "treated with contempt", "living/live in communes", and "Having/have no family ties", the four phrases that are identical? The NYT piece, which I have strong reason to believe the BBC article is itself paraphrasing, uses much more colorful language to say the same: "their presence is thought to be lucky", "reviled, sniggered at and feared as obnoxious and even sorcerous", "...live in segregated communes and are unable to father children. They have no heirs." But I find word choice like that to be unencyclopedic and less concise. I am open to rewording this but I am genuinely not convinced that it is necessary. Toadspike [Talk] 15:45, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have now added more context from a scholarly source, which breaks up the BBC/NYT background info a bit. I may also have done some rewording (hard to tell from the diff [11]). I hope this helps. Toadspike [Talk] 17:00, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Selim Al Deen Muktamanch

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Muktamanch from Right entrance
Muktamanch from Right entrance
5x expanded by FaysaLBinDaruL (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

~ Φαϊσάλ (talk) 21:05, 7 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

ALT 3: ... that rain unexpectedly began to fall moments after the monsoon song began at same place, twice? Source: Source 1; Source 2

~ Φαϊσάλ (talk) 12:35, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The hook may need to be revised as it is hard to understand. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:42, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: "the song gained a legendary reputation after two remarkable performances at Jahangirnagar University’s Muktamanch, rain unexpectedly began to fall moments after song started. In 1991, just moments after the song began, rain unexpectedly began to fall. The phenomenon repeated itself in 1992 at the same venue during another performance of the song—further cementing its mythical connection to the monsoon." - This is the attractive/amazing info linked to the song and place. To keep the hook's length within 200 prose characters, and make it more interesting the hook is abbreviated as the ALT 3 one.
This is a common practice for DYK. For example, you may check Scenes in the Square. There is a Mr. Bean statue. Its is mentioned in article as well. For DYK the nominator make it more interestingly proposed the hooks as ".. that you can sit next to Mr. Bean (pictured) in Leicester Square?" without mentioning the name of article. Also many times two article is represented in one hook. ~ Φαϊσάλ (talk) 15:50, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]


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Bob Wicks

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5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 373 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:36, 16 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Reading this for the first time, the hook seems to be really interesting, but it seems not to have been followed upon on the article. It says "Starting in fourth grade and continuing through college, he was often teammates with quarterback John Strycula". The article could've specified Strycula went to Royal Oak and Utah State, as well. His association with Wicks was never mentioned again in the article aside from that. Howard the Duck (talk) 14:32, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

BeanieFan11 courtesy ping. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:24, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Howard the Duck: I added that Strycula went to Royal Oka / Utah State. Does that work? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:43, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]


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European Australian Movement

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Moved to mainspace by TarnishedPath (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

TarnishedPathtalk 09:50, 9 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: No - n
  • Other problems: No - A mere mission statement is not interesting. Even so, this claim seems rather ordinary for a Neo-Nazi organization. I believe more content should be added to this article so that more interesting information can be found.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: I would recommend you first build up information about the organization's history, its beliefs, and its activities before adding claims to the infobox. Also, the image of the flag is most likely copyrighted in Australia, so it should be hosted locally on enwiki. ―Howard • 🌽33 13:59, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Howardcorn33 I've removed the flag and the predecessors stuff from the infobox. Does that resolve most of the points above aside from the subjective opinion that the hook is not interesting?TarnishedPathtalk 14:29, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@TarnishedPath: "Anti-LGBT," "Antisemitism," "Ecofascism" should be discussed in the article body itself. The year of formation is also uncited. ―Howard • 🌽33 14:38, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Howardcorn33 fixed. Per the interesting part, I'd think that it is only uninteresting if you know who they are, which can be said of almost every hook. If there anything else which is uncited? TarnishedPathtalk 16:15, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@TarnishedPath: Infobox and citations are OK. I suppose I can only speak for myself when saying if something is interesting, but the provided hook only describes a stated aim of a Western far-right organization which may well apply to dozens of far-right organizations around the world. I don't see anything exceptional about it. (Just to be clear, this is my 3rd time reviewing a DYK, so I'm not the most experienced to talk about this. If you disagree, then I would be OK with a second opinion.) ―Howard • 🌽33 16:26, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Howardcorn33, no worries, I'll take you up on your suggestion and request a second opinion. TarnishedPathtalk 16:34, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
TarnishedPathtalk 04:31, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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James Edwin Thompson

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Created by Sailing427alt (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Hi I'm Sailing427, but you can call me Sailing. Look at my profile. (talk) 19:12, 9 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Dwkaminski (talk) 19:36, 9 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comments:
    • Early life and education section:
      • "During his studies, between 1886 and 1887, he was President of the Medical Students' Debating Society." needs a reference
    • Career section:
      • "Thompson became a member of the Royal College of Surgeons on the 23rd of July, 1886, followed by becoming a fellow on the 13th of June, 1889." needs a reference
      • Article states, "Beginning in 1891, Thompson served as the University of Texas Medical Branch's inaugural Chairman of Surgery, holding the position until 1917" but reference 1 says "In 1891 Thompson moved to the United States and became professor and first chairman of the Department of Surgery at the University of Texas Medical Branch in Galveston, remaining in that position until his death." Reference 3 says he took the position in 1891 and held it for 26 years - therefore 1917. Which is it? 1917 or 1927?
    • Earwing's copyvio detector shows 21.3% - violation unlikely. Most of score is proper nouns. Could be some slight re-writing but not significant.
    • Less than 5 DYK submission so no qpq required
    • @Sailing427alt: Please see my review comments above. I struggled with the hook if it was interesting enough. I landed on yes, but do you want to propose any alternatives? I see you resolved the 1917/1927 issue on the page. Could you add the other references and we should be good.
    • @Sailing427alt: Thank you for adding the requested references and proposing an ALT hook on my wikipedia home talk page. Next time you can add any conversation or alternatives right here on the review template page. Let's go forward with ALT0. Approved for ... that Dr. James Edwin Thompson was a founding member of the American College of Surgeons and their first vice president in 1913?
  • This has been pulled per a WT:DYK discussion that raised concerns about the promoted hook's meeting DYKINT. A new hook is needed here. Courtesy pings to AirshipJungleman29 and RoySmith. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:05, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]


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Sraboner Meghgulo Joro Holo Akashe

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Created by FaysaLBinDaruL (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

~ Φαϊσάλ (talk) 14:17, 17 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Sure. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:17, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Starlight (Taylor Swift song)

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Created by Ippantekina (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 15 past nominations.

Ippantekina (talk) 04:56, 10 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - See below
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: @Ippantekina: Article is new enough (moved to mainspace on 6/4), long enough, and a QPQ has been done. My only concern is the hook - the article doesn't mention the song being "dedicated" to Ethel Kennedy, only that it was inspired by her romance with RFK. Does the WSJ source say that it was dedicated to her? The article is behind a paywall and I can't access it. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 13:59, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Given unresolved concerns about the promoted hook, I've returned this to Prep for further workshopping. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:21, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Undefeated (band)

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Lis Dunckel of Undefeated
Lis Dunckel of Undefeated
  • ... that when Lis Dunckel (pictured) replaced the previous bassist for Undefeated, she didn't know how to play bass?
Created by 3family6 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 109 past nominations.

3family6 (Talk to me|See what I have done) 12:46, 13 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation

Image eligibility:

  • Freely licensed: No - All images used in the article have lacked permission for more than a week. They should be removed unless permission is received.
  • Used in article: Yes
  • Clear at 100px: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Interesting hook. Well-cited article, although I would personally mark out the primary sources using {{Primary sources references section}}. ―Howard • 🌽33 13:48, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@3family6: Forgot to ping. ―Howard • 🌽33 11:47, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Regarding the images, the band told me ,(via email) that they've sent in the forms, it's the Wikimedia volunteer side that hasn't responded. I'm not sure what the approach is in such situations.--3family6 (Talk to me|See what I have done) 11:53, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I suggest consulting c:Commons:Volunteer Response Team/Noticeboard ―Howard • 🌽33 12:16, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I'll leave a message there.--3family6 (Talk to me|See what I have done) 20:37, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's currently in process. I reached out to the band again and Meredith is attempting to re-send the information.--3family6 (Talk to me|See what I have done) 23:28, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Klaus König

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5x expanded by Gerda Arendt (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2146 past nominations.

Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:33, 18 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • The article meets DYK requirements: it is new enough, long enough, and adequately sourced. It is free from close paraphrasing, and a QPQ has been done. The article appeared on Recent deaths so it remains DYK eligible.
There are, however, multiple issues with the hook as currently written. The first is that it is hard to understand: the mention of "after the Fall of the Berlin Wall" is vague. Is it referring to a performance during the actual destruction of the Berlin Wall, immediately after the wall's fall, or is it referring to a time period? Second, the hook is very complex: it is hard to see the point here. What is the relation between him performing Tannhäuser and performing the Ninth Symphony? One doesn't lead to another, and it is unclear what is even the main hook fact. Even the mention of Bernstein seems irrelevant to the hook, if the intention is to focus on König. The hook as written is not only hard to understand, but it is in dire need of a trimming.
The third, and perhaps the biggest issue, is hook interest. As currently written, the hook fails DYKINT: it is unlikely to be perceived as interesting to a non-specialist reader. The layperson reader would not find it interesting that an opera performer performed Tannhäuser or Beethoven's Ninth Symphony. This is what the regulars at WT:DYK would call a "boring" hook, and it would be very unlikely to survive scrutiny at WT:DYK. I have struck the hook due to these issues: please propose a new one (do not unstrike, as unstriking does not resolve any of the three concerns I have raised), and ideally a completely different direction. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:41, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We could split the hook in two only: DYK has only one sentence for him. We could end at that he was the tenor called to portray Tannhäuser at some of the greatest opera houses in the world. But then we'd miss that not only was he great in concert, but he took part in this truly legendary performance right after the border between the Germanies was opened (where for the first time the word "Freude" was replaced by "Freiheit" (Freedom}, which was done again in a Soladarity concert for Ukraine in Frankfurt in April 2022}. Some people may remember, and remember better when Bernstein is mentioned who stood for that. To say only that would leave him a concert singer while he was one of the few heldentenors in opera at the time, but of the Tannhäuser type, not the Siegfried type, - the roles are given to distinguish, like you wouldn't only say about a sports person that they played with balls, but say if tennis or baseball. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:03, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The issue here Gerda is that the context you are giving is simply not information that the average reader knows. The average reader is not going to know about how big of a deal Tannhäuser is, or what a heldentenor is. You are an expert on classical music and opera, but the average person will know almost nothing if not nothing about it. If anything, your explanation only further shows why the hook does not meet DYKINT. If you want something simple, maybe a hook about his background as a house painter and decorator would work. At the very least, it would require less knowledge from the average reader. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:13, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:20, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Given the lack of a suitable hook, I am marking this for closure. If you want the nomination to continue, instead of asking for a second opinion or reverting this edit, please propose a new hook instead. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:23, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) No. I don' want something simple. I want to get as close as what was special about this unique person as I can. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:26, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
4meter4: do you have an idea? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:28, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing hooky stands out. The article lacks a compelling biographical narrative and is a bit too WP:RESUME like at the moment. It's hard to come up with something hooky when all you have is a bunch of repertoire/venue lists and reviews that lack anything particularly striking. It's the personalization of content that makes a biography hook stand out, and at the moment the article doesn't really capture what makes Klaus König different from other operatic tenors of a similar stature. You don't get the sense of who he is as human being or what made him unique as a singer, although you can tell what kind of tenor he was if you know opera. But knowing someone's fach/repertoire isn't really all that interesting. The problem is honestly in the content. You'll need to dig around to find a fact that is compelling and add it to the article, because currently there is nothing there suitable for DYK.4meter4 (talk) 22:09, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 ... that German operatic tenor Klaus König trained as a house painter and decorator before starting his music career? @4meter4: How does this sound? This seems to be the only thing in the article that seemed hooky to me. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:38, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'd rather withdraw. He had attention when among the Recent deaths. The chance that DYK potentially offers is to say something defining about him. I wouldn't be surprised if that memorable concert to liberty was among his proudest moment, and doubt that the training as a housepainter was. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:57, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt No Gerda. Please read WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE. DYK's purpose is not to say something defining but something surprising or attention grabbing. The Symphony No. 9 concert was important and it is interesting but it takes more than a paragraph to really explain its significance. There's not really a way to distill what made that concert special into a single sentence. You have to remember that many readers who were not alive during the Cold War may not be familiar with the division of Berlin or the Berlin Wall, and Symphony No. 9 concert was unique because of it's deliberate bringing together of international artists from across political divides to perform instead of an "ode to joy" an "ode to freedom". The article itself doesn't really do a good job at contextualizing the concert and its significance either. Regardless, that fact isn't really about König but more about the concert. König was only one of hundreds of musicians who participated. The best biographical hooks are centered on the individual, and are about them. 4meter4 (talk) 15:52, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The readers not alive might learn a bit, no? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:54, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Alt 2 ... that opera singer Klaus König has been described as "one of the most important tenors of his generation, especially in the heroic tenor repertoire"?
    ALT2 is acceptable. I'd like it better without the initial "opera singer", - we can't help that the quote is repetitious (tenor). It's also not clear how much authority the unnamed source has to declare such a thing. I believe that most readers knowing what a heroic tenor is will expect some Siegfried, not Tannhäuser (the by far more interesting character). But acceptable, thank you. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:54, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt You have to remember that the majority of English speakers, particularly in the United States, are fairly ignorant about opera. Most have never been to an opera performance, and are not familiar with the terminology used in voice type/fach classification. Most readers won't know what a "heroic tenor" is and won't automatically associate the word "tenor" with an opera singer. Americans will think of school or church choirs and the tenor section when they hear the term. Opera literacy is not imbedded within the American consciousness as a whole and Wagnerian opera is staged for the most part only in New York, San Francisco, Chicago, and Houston. It rarely gets performed outside of those cities because the company's don't have the resources. Americans make up the largest percentage of readers and editors on the English wiki, so we do need to consider what is "specialized knowledge" in relation to the general public on the English wiki.4meter4 (talk) 21:26, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am aware of this. Only, If they know "tenor" from choir singing they know enough to understand the hook without "opera singer", and "heroic" invites to investigate further. Those who don't may not know "opera" either, or be not interested at that early point.
ALT3: ... that Klaus König made his debut at the Metropolitan Opera, as Erik in Wagner's Der fliegende Holländer, at age 59?
ALT4: ... that Klaus König portrayed Wagner's Tannhäuser in Dresden, for his American debut, and at the Teatro Massimo Bellini at age 60? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:27, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) I don't think this is going anywhere, so I am approving only ALT2. ALT3 and ALT4 do not resolve 4meter4's concerns regarding readers' familiarity with opera roles; in fact, they are only doubling down on the issues he raised about how niche opera is among the general public. ALT2 is cited inline and verified in the source. It is admittedly not the most spectacular hook, but I can't approve ALT1 myself since I proposed it, so ALT2 it is. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:29, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Those who don't may not know "opera" either, or be not interested at that early point. That is exactly what we are trying to avoid with DYK hooks. If a DYK hook is explicitly only targeted to those who may be interested in the hook, no matter how small that group is, that goes against DYKHOOKSTYLE/DYKINT. ALT3 and ALT4 are rejected. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 05:31, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think you understood what I tried to say.
  1. regarding ALT2: I can see people not interested in opera, who would not read ALT2 to the end because the term "opera singer" drives them away.
  2. I wrote ALT3 especially for everybody: about a person with a stamina to make whatever debut at age 59, but find it only fair to say precisely what that debut was. Critic Tim Page found him "vital and credible" in the role (of a lover loosing his girl to someone more attractive), which could be added for extra quirkiness. I think to say exactly that he sang a supporting role at the Met at that age gives him a much more precise (not vague and exaggerated) position than any "has been described" stamp. What do you think, 4meter4? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:54, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I do not think you understood what 4meter4 said about people's ignorance about opera. The hooks you proposed still require being at least knowledgeable about opera, which probably 90% of Wikipedia's readership are not. The average reader will not know who or what Erik, Der fliegende Holländer, Tannhäuser, or the Teatro Massimo Bellini are. That does not mean that we cannot have hooks about things readers are unfamiliar with, but it does mean that a hook has to be easily understood or appreciated by someone unfamiliar with the topic. The point has to be easy to get even if a reader does not know the names involved. A hook about the subject being important because he performed at the Teatro Massimo Bellini, a place that maybe over 95% Wikipedia readers have never heard of, let alone know the significance of, is exactly the kind of hook that DYKINT discourages. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:18, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Basically Gerda, a good rule of thumb is this: if a hook's interestingness requires the nominator explaining why the hook fact is interesting on the nomination page, then that hook does not meet DYKINT. You having to explain ALT4 here, instead of letting the hook speak for itself, shows exactly why it is not a suitable hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:09, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Basically, if a hook says that someone made his debut at age 59, that is comprehensible for everybody, and even somewhat quirky. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:57, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT2a: ... that Klaus König has been described as "one of the most important tenors of his generation, especially in the heroic tenor repertoire"?
ALT3a: ... that Tim Page described the debut of Klaus König at age 59 as "vital" and "credible"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:12, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Normally I might be okay with ALT3a, but review quote hooks have done poorly in the past, so it might be better to move on from it. Gerda, I think you need to be more open to hook wordings that aren't specifically your own wordings, because in many cases, the wordings you propose are not the best option. You have to accept that, sometimes, reviewers and promoters will prefer wordings by other editors and not your own, and that's okay. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:40, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'd prefer ALT3a because 1) ALT2 is also a reviewer hook, 2) it's vague and exaggerated (as said before), 3) it's not credited to someone or an organization while Tim Page is a person with an article whom you can trust more, 4) it misses the quirkyness of vitality for a debut at age 59. Please try to look objectively at hooks, disregarding where they come from.
What do you think af ALT2a, in the name of "trim"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:51, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This has been a recurring thing of yours for years where you are hesitant to allow or accept hook wordings that you did not write yourself, even if the ideas came from other editors. It has to be specifically your wording, and if other editors reword or modify them, you object.
Anyway, ALT3a as written is unsuitable for multiple reasons: it is wrong (he did not debut as a performer at the age of 59, but rather as Erik). It does not even mention Erik; even if the hook was modified to an ALT3b that did mention Erik, unless a reader is familiar with the role (and to parallel what 4meter4 mentioned above, probably over 95% of our readers do not know Erik), it is not clear as to why it is a big deal that he debuted at such a role at that age. ALT2 may also be a reviewer hook, but at least it does not require the reader to be familiar with opera roles. ALT2a is not ideal because it is not clear in the hook that he is an opera singer: as 4meter4 said, even the word "tenor" is not limited to opera. Personally though, I still think that ALT1 is the best option given how it does not require any knowledge of opera to understand.
Gerda, your hooks have been questioned on interest grounds for years, so please follow the guidelines on interestingness and propose a hook that is accessible to a broad audience, or at least agree to a hook that does not require the deep expertise on opera that you have. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:20, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Another suggestion: if you want to avoid another long discussion (this discussion is already longer than the article itself), a sensible option would be to agree to ALT2 and wait for a promoter to promote it. Once the article has its run on the main page, that's it. You already said earlier in the discussion that you were fine with ALT2, so if you can just agree to it instead of continuing to object and prolonging the discussion, then König will be featured on DYK sooner rather than later. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:23, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I said earlier in the discussion that ALT2 is acceptable, which is a lot because many are not. However, it is a vague and exaggerated claim, and said so at the same time. ALT3a doesn't claim it was his debut as performer, and it wasn't as Erik (that was much earlier) but at the Met, but aren't we requested to not tell it all? Can't readers find out which debut, raising curiosity? He made some debut at 59 and was regarded as vital, that's much funnier than the general praise that says about nothing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:16, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think alt3a is misleading. The term debut is usually interpreted to mean the first professional performance by an artist in their career. It could end up at WP:ERRORS. I'm scratching it. A "house debut" is qualified through context, and a hook doesn't have space to do that. 4meter4 (talk) 17:21, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'd support anything that would just bring this to promotion. @4meter4: Is ALT1 really not a suitable alternative to ALT2/ALT2a? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:47, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
no - I don't see how saying someone trained as a housepainter is interesting at all. If it was astronaut, or philosopher. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:44, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I find ALT1 really good at generating interest, and while I might not be on the same side as Narutolovehinata5 all the time, I really like their hook. Viriditas (talk) 21:33, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Gerda Arendt:, can you either give your approval for ALT1 to run, or withdraw the nomination. Thanks, ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:01, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I said it before: I'd rather withdraw than run ALT1. Can someone please tell me how anybody would be interested in a person who trained as a housepainter? I'd accept ALT2, or better shorter ALT2a. We talk about a person who recently died. To say no word about what made him one of the greatest, but spend characters on something he left behind early in life, seems not to do justice to him, sorry. His article had c. 5k views while on the Main page (sadly not for long). You can help him to a few more by accepting ALT2. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:31, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
information Note: I don't find ALT2 or ALT2 interesting; as DYK slots are currently under high demand, I won't be promoting them. Other promoters may disagree. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:42, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Can you please tell me what you find interesting in ALT1, because I can't understand. Viriditas, AJ, N.? And perhaps also why you'd find it more interesting than a "vital" house debut at age 59?
ALT3b: ... that when Klaus König made his house debut at the Metropolitan Opera at age 59, Tim Page described it as "vital" and "credible"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:57, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Because it is a wonderful story. A blue collar house decorator who took evening classes when already thirty years old, and fifteen years after that became an internationally renowned performer for twenty years, while still maintaining his decorating business (not that you'd know that last bit from the article—of course he couldn't have been "proud" of something like that). As for "vital" and "credible", so meaningless I've removed it from the article. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:45, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If I were writing this nomination, it would be something like ALT4: ... that Klaus König, who worked as a painter for over thirty years, played lead operatic roles at major venues in Vienna, London, Milan, Paris, and New York? (Paris not in the article but easily added.) ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:56, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Good idea, thank you, but a long list of capital cities is too much quantity for my taste, and painter might be misunderstood as another Van Gogh. Better something specific perhaps?
ALT4a: ... that tenor Klaus König, who worked as a house painter for over thirty years, made his house debut at the Metropolitan Opera [in New York City] at age 59?
ALT4b: ... that Klaus König, who worked as a house painter for over thirty years, made his debut at the Royal Opera House [in London] as Wagner's Tannhäuser in 1984.
Others possible. I'd prefer ALT4b because it's a lead role, an interesting complex character, and Royal sounds good to some. By naming the role, you not only define the voice type (tenors can be so different) but also get access to an interesting story, and there's no requirement to know any of it before if reader is curious enough to explore. Will get the duration of his shop (he was the boss, - not sure that he did much painting in the 30th year) to the article. I am aware that - having to deal with Alfred Brendel (a giant) and Gorai (emotionally tough) - I neglected him a bit. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:14, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"Made his debut" will typically be interpreted as "gave his first performance overall, not just at one place"; if that is what "made his house debut" is intended to address, no-one will get that. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:18, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT4c: ... that Klaus König, who worked as a house painter for over thirty years, first appeared at the Royal Opera House [in London] as Wagner's Tannhäuser in 1984.
The sources, though, use "made his debut at ...". - I found this with a lot of detail, but a blog (however educated). They cite a 1994 magazine entry that I can't find online. It could be referenced offline. What do you think. The business seems to have been Lackiererei, for cars. Not my vocabulary. Deepl suggests "car paint shop". ? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:48, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@AirshipJungleman29: Rather than listing a list of opera houses or places he performed, why not just simplify it and say that he was also an opera performer for several years? I do not think that any specific mentions of particular opera houses, places, or roles are necessary: just say that he was an opera performer, as I think that being an opera performer and a house decorator at the same time is already eye-catching as it is. Of course, this would require the part about him working both as an opera performer and as a house painter at the same time being at the article. I'm sorry, but I see ALT4a/b/c as too technical or specialist, and I agree that the original ALT4 is too complicated. The thing is: the interesting part here is that he was also a house decorator, so that has to be the focus of the hook and not whatever role he played or where he performed. We just need a simplified version of ALT4 based on above suggestion. For now, I've struck all of the current proposals as none of them seem to be viable. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:21, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Narutolovehinata5 was the rambling monologue intended to go anywhere, or just be unhelpful? After all, with how much you hound them, you should probably be added as a co-nominator on all of Gerda's nominations. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 06:53, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry if the above seemed like rambling. I actually liked ALT4's direction (i.e. the mentioning of both the house painter and his opera career), it's just thatt the wordings proposed were perhaps a bit too complex. The point was that the best option was probably just to say that he was both a house decorator and an opera performer, without mentioning specific roles or venues. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:46, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am sorry, but no, it isn't. Opera careers are different, and singing a top role (and which) at a top house (and which) is precise facts that illustrate the kind of this specific career and the voice. We could go further and add La Scala and the Paris Opera with the same role and the same year, and that's outstanding and not just "an opera career". How about you leave this nom at this point, or rather before striking what others may like? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:00, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Diagon Alley

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Converted from a redirect by Mikeycdiamond (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Mikeycdiamond (talk) 04:26, 13 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: ALT1 doesn't seem to be the most appropriate for this article, as it implies the Hogwarts Express article is the main subject, and Diagon Alley is merely a footnote. I think a hook that's much more relevant to the article can be found. ALT0, the source doesn't mention a temporary move, and also doesn't specify a correlation between Diagon Alley and Fallon. Unfortunately, ALT2 also fails due to WP:FORBESCON; Forbes contributor articles are considered unreliable. Here are some alt hooks:

@Mikeycdiamond: let me know which one you like better! jolielover♥talk 13:29, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Jolielover: While the following quote implies he moved the show: "Jimmy Fallon took a road trip to Orlando, bringing 'The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon' and guest stars like Pitbull and Jennifer Lopez to the Sunshine State. Fallon continues to tape episodes from Universal this week.", I can understand how it could be seen as a stretch/OR to connect the two events. I think alt4 is the most interesting, thanks! P.S, if this is formatted wrong, sorry, I am not used to using wikimarkup for comments. Mikeycdiamond (talk) 22:53, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Sangalang, Jennifer. "Lumos! Universal lights up Diagon Alley". Florida Today. Archived from the original on December 5, 2022. Retrieved 2025-06-10.
  2. ^ Sekula, Sarah (2014-06-20). "Sneak peek: Harry Potter's Diagon Alley". CNN. Retrieved 2025-06-10.
  3. ^ Pocock, Emma. "J.K. Rowling Debunks 'Harry Potter' Inspiration Claims". Forbes. Retrieved 2025-06-07.

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Italian reserve football teams

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Created by Wikipediæ philosophia (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 14 past nominations.

Wikipediæ philosophia (talk) 21:34, 14 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Murder of Luigia Borrelli

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Created by Moondragon21 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 15 past nominations.

Moondragon21 (talk) 05:50, 12 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Dull hook. A lot of murder investigations have been reopened after long periods of time (see Murder of Sherri Rasmussen, for instance). Daniel Case (talk) 04:28, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Better. Just provide a source when you make it ALT1. Daniel Case (talk) 02:18, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Daniel Case: Done. Moondragon21 (talk) 05:22, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I meant here in the nomination, actually, but I checked it in the article and it's fine. I'd put it in the lede where you first mention it. Daniel Case (talk) 04:31, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Daniel Case: Now it's in the lede. Is everything alright now? Moondragon21 (talk) 02:59, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I meant in the article lede, right after that term in Italian is mentioned. Daniel Case (talk) 02:03, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Daniel Case: I think it is already. Moondragon21 (talk) 03:40, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, it's not. First sentence: "The murder of Luigia Borrelli, known in Italy as delitto del trapano" Right after that is where it should go. Daniel Case (talk) 03:52, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Daniel Case: I am confused. What should the sentence be word-for-word? Moondragon21 (talk) 08:17, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I took care of it. Daniel Case (talk) 18:11, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Daniel Case: thanks. How is the DYK looking now? Moondragon21 (talk) 17:12, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Better in this department, but given the degree to which I have been involved already I think it better if someone else does the full review Daniel Case (talk) 18:16, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No problem. Thanks for the advice on the hook. Moondragon21 (talk) 11:10, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Moondragon21 your provided QPQ Template:Did you know nominations/1910 Italy v France football match is a tick-box review which did not pick up on easily-identifiable issues, and is therefore not a "full review" per WP:QPQ. I request that you review another nomination, and do so properly this time. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:19, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
apologies I reviewed that DYK before the article underwent major changes and was tagged for copyedit. AirshipJungleman29 a new QPQ is now provided. Moondragon21 (talk) 15:22, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Bésame (Alejandro Sanz and Shakira song)

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Created by 1arch (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

1arch (talk) 16:19, 19 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • The article is new, long enough and well-referenced. I see no close paraphrasing issues, but neither do I see any mention of the musical influences of Alejandro Sanz and Shakira in the article. In any case, I think a hook mentioning the kiss might be more interesting. Surtsicna (talk) 18:23, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Doll Hut

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Created by Sewageboy (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Sewageboy (talk) 05:33, 14 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

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Rini Widyantini

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  • ... that Indonesia's current state apparatus minister, Rini Widyantini, once took care of one of her predecessors' child? Source: "In September 1970, our first child was born, and we named him Rezal Ashari... When the two of us returned to campus, we left Rezal in the charge of the Nadisah family, who very kindly agreed to babysit him. Pak Nadisah’s youngest daughter, Rini Widyantini, was the most involved in taking care of Rezal." Kusumaatmadja, Sarwono (2020). Steering a middle course: from activist to Secretary General of Golkar. ISEAS-Yusof Ishak Institute. Singapore: ISEAS. pp. 100. ISBN 978-981-4881-65-4.
5x expanded by Jeromi Mikhael (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 83 past nominations.

Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 03:40, 17 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]


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Gyula Kakas

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  • ... that Gyula Kakas, who was a "small, girlish-faced boy", competed at two Olympics in gymnastics, set the Hungarian pole vault record, and played for a national champion football team?
5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 377 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:44, 23 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: No - Second hook is more interesting, but needs some tweaking. See comments below.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: A tip of the hat for rescuing this from AfD and improving it to GAN. That said, the hook needs a bit of work. I added a BOLD Oxford comma to start, but here are my other comments.

  • "Football team" should at the very least be "Football club" to keep with standard (non-American) football terminology.
  • "National champions" is also a bit Americanized as there are multiple leagues in a given country. What would you think about "...competed in gymnastics at two Olympics, set the Hungarian pole vault record, and won the first-ever Nemzeti Bajnokság championship"? Etzedek24 (Talk) (Contribs) 03:43, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Eva Leigh (artist)

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Source: Young, Dr Fiona (2024). Finding Eva Leigh: rediscovering a Harrogate artist. York and Harrogate: North Yorkshire Council and Mercer Art Gallery. The full quotation is in the article, with inline citation.
  • ALT1: ... that, unlike traditional cut-paper silhouette artists, Eva Leigh created her own style of silhouette portraits, making meticulous drawings in India ink?
Source: as above.
    • Reviewed: Skraban–Deardorff syndrome
    • Comment: The expansion is already new enough and long enough, and mostly complete, but I'm still improving it (nominating now, to avoid deadline issues). I'll post here, when it's ready for review. Thank you for your patience. Update: the article is now ready for review.
5x expanded by Storye book (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 115 past nominations.

Storye book (talk) 08:50, 20 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

I dispute the above summary dismissal. With respect to WP:ARTIST:
a. The artist has been mentioned by newspapers, the Mercer Art Gallery, online sources, and a booklet by Dr Fiona Young.
b. The artist created a new and significant technique of creating portrait silhouettes.
c. The artist created a body of work which has been described by the above sources.
d. The artist's work was shown in an exhibition at a respected gallery, and the exhibition was under her own name (I.e. it was all her own work).
e. The artist's work is in two collections: one owned by the Mercer Art Gallery, and the other in the collection of Herbert Bannister Whone, who himself deserves a biography. That collection is currently being retained by his family.
With respect to Ancestry:
f. That is not about genealogy. Ancestry is one way of accessing authoritative government and public institution documents. They could equally well be accessed at public archives, libraries, etc. but Ancestry allows us to provide links, so that the documents can also be checked by those millions of readers who have subscriptions to Ancestry. If one makes statements about an individual, then those statements have to be proved. What better way of proving something than by a verifiable government document? All the Ancestry material is verifiable and above-board. Also, in biographies it is always helpful to an understanding of where the subject's achievement came from (or whether the subject achieved things against the odds) by describing their family background etc. That may not always be the case in modern America where family history and background may not always count, but it is certainly always the case in historical biographies of British people, where class, education, money etc. historically made all the difference. Storye book (talk) 08:03, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
They would pass 4b as they were the subject of the Mercer Art Gallery exhibition. The article needs more reliable sources that mention the subject. The mention of her great grandfather is not necessary. It does not seem like there are any sources that mention her descent from her great grandfather and it seems as if it is original research. Aneirinn (talk) 04:20, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There is nothing wrong with the sources.
  • We have newspapers, a book and a gallery as sources.
  • Also your WP:ARTIST link says that only one of the requirements has to be met, whereas the article meets all or part of each requirement.
  • We are asked to produce more articles about women because historically they have been ignored or forgotten. Being ignored or forgotten means that they will have fewer sources than the traditionally lionised old white men.
Please get real about this. Rules exist primarily on WP to prevent editors from breaking the law. No law has been broken in this article. WP rules exist secondarily to ensure that inappropriate material and lies are not represented here. It is clear that there is no inappropriateness or lying in this article, and those secondary rules about decency should be used with common sense. Storye book (talk) 08:34, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

2025 Chennai Super Kings season

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Improved to Good Article status by Vestrian24Bio (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Vestrian24Bio 16:05, 17 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • This is a comment and not a review: I have mixed feelings about this hook. On the one hand, the hook is borderline specialist since it requires knowledge that the Super Kings are usually good. On the other hand, the IPL is a huge deal in India, a country of over 1 billion people. This is a weird case in that I'm not actually sure if the hook as currently written is interesting to a broad audience, as whether or not it does depends on how you define "broad". On the one hand, cricket is really only popular in a relatively small number of countries, so outside of those countries the hook may not be as interesting. On the other hand, three of the countries where cricket is big (India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh) are very populous, so in theory the number of people this hook attracts is very large. It's a question of how wide the hook's interest is versus how deep. I don't swing either way (although I'd be leaning more towards it being interesting), so it would be good to ask for a second opinion here, ideally from a non-cricket fan. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:01, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Some extra hooks, which are hopefully more interesting (link placement may need some adjusting):
The last one requires a source from the team's main article as well. It cites [12], which should do. Toadspike [Talk] 12:00, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think ALT3 would be the best option here, although of course the article would need adjustment. @Vestrian24Bio: Thoughts on the above proposals? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:49, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5 and Toadspike: I support ALT3 as well and also made the necessary changes to the article now. Vestrian24Bio 13:42, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on June 17

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Apolonia Dorregaray Veli

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Created by MumphingSquirrel (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

MumphingSquirrel (talk) 13:28, 27 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • I am afraid I have some problems with the sources, MumphingSquirrel. References #1 and #4 are blogs. References #2, #5, #9, #10, #11 and #12 are offline sources the existence of which I cannot verify online. #6 looks splendid–but does not mention the subject of the article. #7 is again a blog but the article published there is purported to have been first published by the Instituto Nacional de Cultura of the Museo Nacional de la Cultura Peruana, and I was able to find a reference to this article on a credible website. Reference #8 is the aforementioned credible website. Reference #9 is another credible website that mentions the subject. The source cited for the hook does not, as far as I can tell, verify the hook; I do not see the age of the art form mentioned anywhere, and the source is cited in the article is another source, the aforementioned #5. Is it possible to swap the blogs for more reliable sources? And is it possible to cite an accessible source that verifies the hook? Surtsicna (talk) 17:43, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Surtsicna, thanks for the feedback. I'm unexpectedly away from home with a family thing of unspecified timescale, so will struggle to look at this properly for at least a week or so. Will pick it up when I'm back home. MumphingSquirrel (talk) 21:18, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]


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Arthur Newnham

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CricketArchive is an alternative, but is paywalled Cricket: as above, or his Wisden obituary also verifies – https://www.espncricinfo.com/wisdenalmanack/content/story/229835.html Moscow: Victoria Cross Online – https://victoriacrossonline.co.uk/lanceray-arthur-newnham-gc-mc-direct-recipient/

Transcriptions of Indian newspapers also suggest this, but don't flat out say it
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: Think this is OK. If the sourcing for serving as a military attache is not OK, we have two Indian newspapers which say he was with the Bombay Staff Corps in Moscow when he was married so an alternative ending along the lines of ...and was married in Moscow might be possible
5x expanded by Blue Square Thing (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Blue Square Thing (talk) 05:44, 22 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Ophicleide

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Ophicleide in C by Gautrot with nine keys, mid-19th century
Ophicleide in C by Gautrot with nine keys, mid-19th century
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: I'm not sure if the bit in parentheses may or may not be needed; almost nobody will know what an ophicleide is, but then that's what DYK is about, I guess?
Improved to Good Article status by Jonathanischoice (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Jon (talk) 17:41, 20 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

ALT1: ... that the ophicleide (pictured) was used in early British brass bands in the 19th century before being replaced by the euphonium? Source: Yeo, Douglas (2021). "ophicleide". An Illustrated Dictionary for the Modern Trombone, Tuba, and Euphonium Player. Dictionaries for the Modern Musician. Peterson, Lennie (illustrator). Lanham: The Globe Pequot Publishing Group. p. 99. ISBN 978-1-538-15966-8. LCCN 2021020757. OCLC 1249799159. OL 34132790M. Wikidata Q111040546.


François-Edmond Fortier

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Woman from the Fula ethnic group
Woman from the Fula ethnic group
  • ... that François-Edmond Fortier published over 3,300 postcards of French West Africa (example pictured) between 1901 and 1920? Source: Ref 3: Geary, Christraud M. (2018). "Between 1901 and 1912 he issued more 3.300 original postcards, which he reproduced in different editions until 1920..
    • ALT1: ... that in the early 1900s François-Edmond Fortier published many postcards with eroticized depictions of African women? Source: Ref Ref 3: Geary, Christraud M. (2018). "Included among his cards are many exotic or erotic pictures of "colonized" women..."
    • ALT2: ... that Pablo Picasso owned 40 photographs by François-Edmond Fortier that may have influenced his painting Les Demoiselles d'Avignon? Source: Hirsch, Robert (8 February 2024). Seizing the Light: A Social & Aesthetic History of Photography. Taylor & Francis. p. 255. ISBN 978-1-000-90432-1.
    • ALT3: ... that a photograph by François-Edmond Fortier (pictured) has become an iconic image of African resistance against colonial rule? Source: Bertho, Elara (1 June 2018). "Photographies de Samori Touré : de la carte postale coloniale aux pochettes de vinyles". Cahiers d'études africaines (in French) (230): 301–322. doi:10.4000/etudesafricaines.22087. ISSN 0008-0055. Translation: Photographs of Samori Touré: From the Colonial Postcard to Record Covers. Circulations of an Iconic Picture
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Vorlesungen über die Entwicklung der Mathematik im 19. Jahrhundert
    • Comment: Article 5x expanded. The picture of the Fula woman is only meant for ALT0. In case we use ALT3, another image is appropriate: File:Samory-Dioula Soudanais (AOF).jpg
Created by Munfarid1 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 35 past nominations.

Munfarid1 (talk) 08:34, 19 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Fine expansion of an interesting bio, on good sources, no copyvio obvious. Of the hooks, I like ALT2 best, - would there be an associated image example? Same as ALT0 perhaps? That image is licensed and a good illustration. I like ALT3 also, but it seems a bit off his normal images. The example image is also licensed and a good illustration. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:17, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: A great article. I think ALT0 is best. Aneirinn (talk) 19:05, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Death (Marvel Cinematic Universe)

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An example of a Paul Poiret coat
An example of a Paul Poiret coat
Converted from a redirect by Kingsif (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 139 past nominations.

Kingsif (talk) 03:56, 18 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Oh I missed that, sorry! BuySomeApples (talk) 21:54, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@BuySomeApples: Having crossed off alts 1 and 3, I've added 5 and 6 in their place, including an optional image hook (something a bit different to portraits and buildings, which it's always nice to feature). Kingsif (talk) 23:57, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nice work! I agree about the pic. BuySomeApples (talk) 19:52, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on June 19

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Supreme state organ of power

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  • Source: Towster, Julian (1948). Political Power in the U.S.S.R.: 1917−1947. Oxford University Press. 212; Gasper, Donald (1982). "The Chinese National People's Congress". In Nelson, Daniel; White, Stephen (eds.). Communist Legislatures in Comparative Perspective. State University of New York Press. pp. 160–190. doi:10.1007/978-1-349-06086-3_7. ISBN 0-87395-566-8. 171.
5x expanded by TheUzbek (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

TheUzbek (talk) 10:14, 26 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

George Garcia

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  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bob Wicks
  • Comment: Will complete QPQ within the weekend. What's novel here is while election commission officials vote all the time in general elections, and while there are several special/by-elections, it's not often that a special/by-election happens on the district where an electoral commission is a voter on.
5x expanded by Howard the Duck (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 27 past nominations.

Howard the Duck (talk) 11:54, 20 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • I'm honestly not a fan of hooks that require the nominator to explain its importance or interestingness in the nomination. DYKINT suggests that hooks need to be interesting to non-specialist audiences, meaning the hook should be more-or-less self-evident without requiring too much knowledge. Do you have any other suggestions? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:46, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I mean special/by-elections rather important in many places, and for someone who administers elections to personally vote on one must be rare.
    Other facts are that he counseled for politicians before becoming involved with the Commission on Elections but I thought that's boring. Howard the Duck (talk) 10:51, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It still feels like specialist information at best. It's probably better to just go in a different direction, if possible. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:53, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
By-elections are standard fare in English speaking countries. This is not specialist at all. Such elections are standard fare on WP:DYK.
Also some other facts are unsavory and may not pass WP:BLP more so on the Main Page. Howard the Duck (talk) 11:02, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

AHOF

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  • ... that the K-pop group AHOF was formed through Universe League with seven members from the winning team and one top-voted contestant from each of the two losing teams?
  • Source: ファイナルマッチ前には、1位チームに属する7人、2位チームのファン投票1位のメンバー、3位チームのファン投票1位のメンバーの9人でのデビューとなることが明かされた。Rough translation: Before the final match, it was revealed that the debut lineup would consist of nine members: 7 from the first-place team, the top-ranked member in fan voting from the second-place team, and the top-ranked member from the third-place team. Oricon News
  • ALT1: ... that AHOF, a K-pop group formed through Universe League, includes the top-voted contestants from two losing teams alongside the seven-member winning team? Source: Oricon News
  • Reviewed:
Moved to mainspace by Eugh jei (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

— Eugh jei ♥ Kaorin 14:43, 19 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Hello! I'll be more than happy to review this. Article was nominated within 7 days of moving to mainspace. It is more than 1,500 words in prose and sourced. Nominator has less than 5 nominations, so a QPQ is not needed at this time. I do have concerns about the line about the Dazed photoshoot, as the inclusion of their interview seems promotional since the quoted text is more aspirational than about their activities. Furthermore, while I can understand the hook, it's worded a little bit confusingly and might only appeal to niche audiences. Can you suggest another hook? lullabying (talk) 07:10, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Lullabying: Thank you for the review! Would this work: ALT2 "... that AHOF, a K-pop group formed on the reality show Universe League, includes two members who were not on the winning team but were added by fan votes?" I know I'm just rephrasing the hooks I suggested above. I wanted to showcase the fact that two members, despite being in the losing teams, were added in. I'm not sure if you are looking for a totally different hook. Regarding the Dazed Korea line, I had that line as a placeholder to hopefully expand it later when I get a copy of the magazine. For now, I will remove it, and once I get to read the magazine article and found notable info, I'd put it back in. — Eugh jei ♥ Kaorin 10:02, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you! I think the reworded hook is fine. The Dazed line is still on the article. lullabying (talk) 18:04, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Also, one more thing I need to add: I'm not sure if this article satisfies WP:Notability (music) because this band is so new. Yes, there's independent coverage, but a lot of it has to do with Universe League rather than the group themselves. lullabying (talk) 19:56, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. And funny thing about that, I hoped to move the article from the draftspace to the mainspace after the group's debut and after substantial group activities. But then it got moved by someone and so this request got expedited as well. (I know it said above that I was the one who moved it. I was just not aware how the DYK Wizard worked. I thought that that field was for the users requesting, but I digress.) There had been a recent performance, and details about their upcoming EP had come out. I could add this to the article to hopefully satisfy WP:NMG. — Eugh jei ♥ Kaorin 22:16, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I really am hoping for this article to pass DYK, but at the moment, it's kind of hard to say whether it satisfies notability. From what I can see, the EP hasn't released yet and charting information is unavailable. lullabying (talk) 04:13, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I guess the course of action is to actively edit the article. I am optimistic that the article will satisfy WP:NMG before WP:DYKTIMEOUT happens. thank you for the feedback! — Eugh jei (talk) 11:22, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I will continue to check occasionally, but please let me know once you have made the change to satisfy notability. Thanks! lullabying (talk) 01:45, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on June 20

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Matt Koart

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  • ... that American football player Matt Koart, considered small for his position, added over 40 pounds (18 kg) in college by "stuff[ing] myself so bad"?
  • Source: LA Times (archived to avoid paywall - "Koart came to USC as a freshman in 1981 weighing 217 pounds. That’s a reasonable weight for a fullback, but not a defensive tackle ...'I used to stuff myself so bad,' he said. 'I'd take a weight-gaining powder, put two bananas in it, grind it up and then shove it down my throat--2,000 calories. And that was after I ate.' ... Koart weighs 260 pounds and is a mainstay of USC’s experienced defensive line")
5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 382 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:00, 27 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Fred Shirey

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  • ... that it took a two-year "campaign" from future NFL player Fred Shirey, his friends and coaches for Shirey's father to even allow him to try out football?
5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 381 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:56, 27 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Wilf Pine

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  • Source:Butler, Geezer (2023). Into the Void: From Birth to Black Sabbath and Beyond. HarperCollins.
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment:
    • Created by Ericoides (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Ericoides (talk) 12:28, 27 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on June 21

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    Verona Marjanović

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    • ... that luger Verona Marjanović had to run through an airport while bullets were being fired to train in Germany?
    5x expanded by Arconning (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 41 past nominations.

    Arconning (talk) 14:39, 27 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Phyllis Edness, Phyllis Lightbourn-Jones

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    • ... that Phyllis and Phyllis competed for Bermuda at the 1948 Summer Olympics?
    5x expanded by Arconning (talk) and It is a wonderful world (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. Nominator has 39 past nominations.

    Arconning (talk) 04:16, 27 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Strong Court

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    • Source: "Effective leadership of the Court was, at least at times, passing from Strong's hands" (Snell and Vaughan, 1985, p 62). "Henry Strong seemed to dominate the court, and under his leadership, or lack thereof, the court spiralled downward in the estimation of both the bar and the public." (Ian Bushnell, 1992, p 168)
    "The attempts to force retirement, the repeated absences of several justices, and the problems caused by Chief Justice Strong's personality naturally resulted in instability on the Court." (Snell and Vaughan, 1985, p 58).
      • ALT1: ... that the Strong Court was created by the appointment of Samuel Henry Strong to the role of Chief Justice of Canada, despite Strong's many attempts to resign from the Court? Source: "Several times between 1884 and 1888 Strong actually tendered his resignation. He had stayed on at the prime minister's request, but in 1888 Sir John A. Macdonald finally gave way, writing to the minister of justice: 'I have written Strong. You would grant his pension. He may as well go.' Strong did not go, however." (Snell and Vaughan, 1985, p 45)
      • ALT2: ... that despite its name, the Strong Court did not have the respect of the Canadian legal community or public? Source: "Equally unfortunate was the entrenchment of the public's generally negative perception of the institution. A Toronto law journal commented in 1896 that 'this Court has long lacked the confidence of the Bar, both in the English-speaking provinces and in Quebec, and the present state of affairs will minimize what confidence still exists." AND "The Court's reputation remained poor; the editor of the Canada Law Journal wrote privately that the Supreme Court 'is held in Contempt by the profession.'"(Snell and Vaughan, 1985, p 58, 79)
      • Reviewed:
      • Comment: I think the name of the court can be used to make a good pun, but I am having difficulty thinking of one
    Created by Caddyshack01 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Caddyshack01 (talk) 14:36, 21 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    SWAT (Regina)

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    • Source: According to research conducted by Sam Alvaro for a Carleton University thesis, less than 2% of Canadian police department adopt the SWAT name. The majority of police tactical units in other departments use names such as Emergency Response Team, Emergency Response Unit, Emergency Task Force, Emergency Services Unit and Groupe d'intervention (English: Intervention Group). Linked paper.
    Created by Ominae (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 18 past nominations.

    Ominae (talk) 14:13, 21 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

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    Charles Champaud

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    5x expanded by Arconning (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 42 past nominations.

    Arconning (talk) 03:41, 28 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Isoup Ganthy

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    • ... that Isoup Ganthy, part of Cambodia's first Olympic team, later died in prison after being accused of working to overthrow the country?
    5x expanded by Arconning (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 35 past nominations.

    Arconning (talk) 04:59, 25 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Danan: The Jungle Fighter

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    Improved to Good Article status by CooperCool23 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    COOPER COOL 23 user page 22:16, 22 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Saskatchewan Highway Patrol

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    • ... that the Saskatchewan Highway Patrol was in a controversy in 2020 where firearms were purchased, but were deemed questionable during an audit in 2019?
    Converted from a redirect by Ominae (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 19 past nominations.

    Ominae (talk) 14:12, 22 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Yang Xianjin

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    • ... that in August 2021, Yang re-entered the education sector as Party Secretary of Tianjin University, where he supervises all Party-related matters of the institution?
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: This is my fist nomination-forgive me if I made a mistake?
    Created by PawPatroler (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    PawPatroler (talk) 05:12, 22 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: Yes
    • Interesting: No - n
    • Other problems: No - The hook is not properly formatted; Yang's full name or suitable replacement text should be used and in bold, and it should be wikilinked in Yang Xianjin's article.
    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: The hook is uninteresting. It provides no context for who Yang is or why anyone would care that he re-entered the education sector. It reads like a line on a resume, not a hook that grabs readers' interest. Please look for a different hook option in the article or in sources that could be added to the article, and ping me when updated so I can review. Update: After leaving open for a week, there has been no update and the hook does not meet the DYK criteria. Closing as a "no". Any reviewer who would like to revive this is welcome to update and re-review. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:44, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Pinging @PawPatroler: for immediate attention.--Launchballer 06:15, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    At 25:00, in Akasaka

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    • ... that the creator of At 25:00, in Akasaka rode on an ambulance for the first time while writing the second volume?
    • Source: Chil Chil [ja] (link): "――執筆中の思い出に残る日常エピソードなどうかがえますでしょうか / 多分初めて救急車に乗りました。今はまったくなんともないのですがめちゃめちゃ健康の大切さを実感しました。[Please share a lasting memory from your daily life during your writing process. / That might be me riding an ambulance for the first time. Right now, it's nothing really serious, but I realized how very important it is to take care of my health.]"
    Created by Lullabying (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 69 past nominations.

    lullabying (talk) 20:04, 22 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Created yesterday and it's already at 6111 B in prose size. Everything else is good. ミラP@Miraclepine 03:13, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    • Pulled per DYKINT. Nobody cares about the author's ride in an ambulance. Please try to come up with something a little more interesting and pertinent to the subject, thanks. Gatoclass (talk) 10:14, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Gatoclass: Well, I did find it a little unusual and was open to this possibility. After all, what also helps is that the creator is unlikely to have a standalone article. However, I'm busy atm and will be until Thursday, so in case this is not enough, I had drafted these more-interesting hooks in advance since there might not be time to debate ALT0's interestingness:
    ALT1A: ... that the creator of At 25:00, in Akasaka found that depicting television scripts gave her "a little more atmosphere" in writing dialogue than in other manga? 苦労した点、また楽しかった点など聞かせてください ... ドラマの台本だから！ と思って普段自分の漫画で使うセリフより少し雰囲気のあるセリフを選んで描けたのは面白かったです。/Please tell us about the things you struggled with and the things you enjoyed. ... It was interesting that I was able to choose lines that had a little more atmosphere than the ones I usually use in my manga because it was a drama script. Television's not stated per se but it's obvious from the work's plot.
    ALT1B: ... that the creator of At 25:00, in Akasaka found that depicting drama scripts gave her "a little more atmosphere" in writing dialogue than in other manga? Same as ALT1A
    ALT2A: ... that the two stars of At 25:00, in Akasaka found it challenging to portray themselves as actors who "act within a show"? 俳優の役を演じるという、いわゆる二重構造についてはどういう印象を受けましたか？/What was your impression of the so-called double structure of playing the role of an actor? [Niihara and Komagine reply that acting as actors was challenging.
    ALT2B: ... that the two stars of the television drama At 25:00, in Akasaka found it challenging to portray themselves as actors who "act within a show"? Same as ALT2A
    ミラP@Miraclepine 01:40, 25 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on June 23

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    Football at the 2015 Island Games – Women's tournament

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    5x expanded by Arconning (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 45 past nominations.

    Arconning (talk) 10:23, 28 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Westhope

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    Westhope
    Westhope
    5x expanded by Epicgenius (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 732 past nominations.

    Epicgenius (talk) 03:18, 25 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    S-1 (supercomputer)

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    • ... that the S-1 supercomputer was designed to have 16 processors, each with the power of a Cray-1? Source: statement made in both Stump and abstract of Widdoes
      • ALT1: ... that the S-1 project was designed with the ultimate goal of building an entire supercomputer on a single silicon wafer? Source: MacKenzie 1998, p. 120.
    Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 206 past nominations.

    Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:30, 23 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Arielle Prepetit

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    Created by DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 14 past nominations.

    DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 11:01, 23 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]


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    Gérard Lefranc

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    • ... that world champion fencer Gérard Lefranc stood at over 2 metres (6 ft 7 in) and was nicknamed the "Green Giant"?
    • Source: e.g. La Voix du Nord ("Lefranc was adopted by the carnival-going community, who gave him a nickname: the 'green giant'—he stood over two meters tall ... Gérard Lefranc was also a former elite athlete. A member of the French fencing team, the Calais native won the world team title in 1962")
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Lumberjack Band (1/2)
    • Comment: To do QPQ within a day or two. I'm a bit late with the nom (I had suggested it as a possible double-hook over at Randy Winkler, but the reviewer hasn't responded yet, so nominating this as a standalone hook before it entirely runs out of eligibility); hopefully that can be excused per WP:DYKG: The seven-day limit can be extended for a day or two upon request.
    5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 387 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:29, 3 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    John Schulman

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    • ... that John Schulman, the leader of the team that developed ChatGPT, said that his first period of serious self-directed study was inspired by the television show BattleBots?
    • Source: “ The first serious self-study I did was in eighth grade, when I became obsessed with BattleBots (televised robot-combat event). Hoping it would help me built a better ‘bot, I did a lot of reading on physics, electronics, and mechanical engineering. The robot I was working on with my friends never got built, but I continued my reading.”
    AAPT
    Created by Thriley (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 178 past nominations.

    Thriley (talk) 02:45, 3 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Gabriel M'Boa

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    • ... that Gabriel M'Boa was the first Olympian for the Central African Republic?
    5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 384 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:03, 1 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Mikayla Raines

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    Converted from a redirect by Soulbust (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 46 past nominations.

    Soulbust (talk) 17:39, 1 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Henri Elendé

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    • ... that at the 1964 Summer Olympics, high jumper Henri Elendé placed first in the qualifiers and placed last in the finals?
    5x expanded by Arconning (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 47 past nominations.

    Arconning (talk) 12:34, 29 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Emirto de Lima

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    • ... that Dutch composer Emirto de Lima competed for Colombia at the 1932 Summer Olympics?
    5x expanded by Arconning (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 46 past nominations.

    Arconning (talk) 12:29, 29 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Paul R. Anderson, Hurst Robins Anderson

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    5x expanded by PCN02WPS (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. Nominator has 92 past nominations.

    PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 05:33, 25 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]


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    George Arthur Lincoln

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    • ... that George Arthur Lincoln, the principal planner of George C. Marshall's World War II military campaigns, liked to spend time "mending fences, attending cattle, and riding" at his ranch in Colorado?
    • Source: General Lincoln, who won his star at the age of 38, served las General of the Army George C. Marshall's principal planner for American military campaigns in Europe and Asia, including the projected invasion of Japan that dissolved with the atomic mushroom clouds over Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the Japanese surrender he helped to draft.” NY Times
    “The Lincolns have a ranch outside of Denver. The general tries to spend as much of his leisure time as possible there, mending fences, attending cattle and riding” NY Times
    Created by Thriley (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 179 past nominations.

    Thriley (talk) 17:56, 3 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Motsapi Moorosi

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    5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 386 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:39, 2 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Sibylla, Queen of Jerusalem

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    Monks spying on Sibylla's coronation
    Monks spying on Sibylla's coronation
    • ... that Queen Sibylla (coronation pictured) agreed to divorce her unpopular husband, Guy, on the condition that she could choose her next husband, only to choose Guy again and crown him king?
    • Source: "...Sibyl agreed to a divorce in 1186 on three conditions ... that she should have the right to choose a new husband herself ... Heraclius crowned Sibyl and then asked her to bestow a second crown on a regent to share the work of government with her, whereupon she called Guy of Lusignan forward and placed the crown on his head..." (Hamilton 2000, p. 220)
    • ALT1: ... that Queen Sibylla (pictured) outwitted her lords by agreeing to their demand that she divorce her husband, Guy, requiring them to promise to accept her next choice of husband, and then choosing Guy again? Source: (Hamilton 2000, p. 220)
    • ALT1: ... that Sibylla of Jerusalem (pictured) defied her brother the king's command to leave her husband, refused to ascend the throne without him, and went to share his hardships at a siege in which she died?
      Source: "Baldwin, it would seem, had reckoned without Sibyl’s great attachment to her husband, which was constant throughout her life." "She was instrumental in his becoming king, and in 1188 left the safety of Tripoli to share with him the hardships of the siege of Acre at which she died." (Hamilton 2000, p. 196)
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Andrea Enisuoh
    • Comment: It would be wonderful if the nomination could be given some time for the GA review of the article about Guy to be finished. Then we can bold Guy's name too and have a nice double hook.
    Improved to Good Article status by Reverosie (talk) and Surtsicna (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 230 past nominations.

    Surtsicna (talk) 19:25, 2 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Charles Winckler

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    • ... that Charles Winckler was selected to the Olympics in swimming, track and field, and won a gold medal in tug of war?
    5x expanded by Arconning (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 53 past nominations.

    Arconning (talk) 13:49, 30 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    LuLu the Piggy

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    LuLu the Piggy at the left corner
    LuLu the Piggy at the left corner
    • Source: "Siam Discovery collaborates with the popular art toy LuLu the Piggy to launch Thailand’s first pop-up store, offering exclusive merchandise and experiences from July 5 to August 31, 2024. Siam Discovery The Exploratorium amplifies its positioning as ‘The Biggest Arena of Lifestyle Experiments’ that offers thrilling and exciting experiences where everyone can endlessly Experiment, Create, and Cultivate. Siam Discovery collaborates with the sought-after art toy characters LuLu the Piggy to launch Thailand’s first pop-up store "LuLu the Piggy – Stay with you Bangkok." Making its debut in Thailand, this exclusive pop-up store caters to the growing art toy lover community, underlying Siam Discovery’s "Be the first" commitment. Collectors can now shop their favourite LuLu the Piggy items in Bangkok, thanks to Siam Discovery and Toyzero+, from 5 July to 31 August 2024, on the 1st floor of Siam Discovery." Bangkok Post
    Created by ChiJap (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    ChiJap (talk) 11:00, 30 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    • The proposed hook is demonstrably false. The source is only saying that it's the first Lulu pop-up store in Thailand, and it's a press release and wouldn't be adequate for such claims anyway. Indeed, the article is cited only to primary sources and press releases; it will need references to independent reliable sources to show notability. The article is missing an important contextual link to art toy in the opening sentence, and the "Characteristic" section fails to frame the description in a real-world perspective. The image copyright might be an issue, as it appears to be a temporary rather than permanent installation so it's unclear whether FOP actually applies. A QPQ review is also needed, as nominator has more than 5 DYKs under another account. Other than that, article is new and long enough. I'm going to fail this as the article needs significant rewriting to properly present the subject's real-world significance, not just its marketing material. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:35, 1 July 2025 (UTC), updated 09:27, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • ALT1:... that the first blind box series of LuLu the Piggy (pictured) was launched in 2019?[1] ChiJap (talk) 22:49, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • Thanks for providing the QPQ and alt hook. The added source provides much more in-depth information, though I'm not knowledgeable enough to assess its independence and am still not quite sure that the article demonstrates the topic's notability well enough. Personally, I don't find Alt1 interesting, but I'm going to go ahead and request a second opinion to help look at the notability concerns. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:41, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • ALT2:... that LuLu the Piggy (pictured) became a trendy toy since its first introduction at the 2019 Shanghai Toy Show?[2] ChiJap (talk) 00:01, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    References

    1. ^ "TOYZEROPLUS与罐头猪LuLu：走出"潮玩圈"皆是旷野" [TOYZEROPLUS and Canned Pig LuLu: Beyond the "trendy toy circle" lies the wilderness] (in Chinese). Sohu. 20 July 2023. Retrieved 1 July 2025.
    2. ^ "Lulu the Piggy, Gintama pop-up stores delight Shanghai fans". Shanghai Municipal People's Government. Retrieved 8 July 2025.

    Karel Frankenstein

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    5x expanded by Arconning (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 51 past nominations.

    Arconning (talk) 08:31, 30 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Mule (wanderer)

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    • ... that a nomad known as "Mule" sued to protect the "sacred relationship between man and horse to travel together with reverence and respect for this beautiful place in which we all reside called Earth"?
    • Source: "An activist and wanderer known across California as “Mule Man” says the CHP violated his right to intrastate roadside travel and his “ages-old nomadic way of life” when he was arrested near Paso Robles in 2020.

    The complaint says that Sears seeks to “protect this ages-old nomadic way of life and the sacred relationship between man and horse to travel together with reverence and respect for this beautiful place in which we all reside called Earth.”"

    The Tribune
    Created by Thriley (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 177 past nominations.

    Thriley (talk) 14:43, 29 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: Yes
    • Interesting: Yes
    • Other problems: No - minor
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Looks mostly good. My main concern is that the full quote does not appear in the article, only a portion of it, and there's two bare URLs. Also, is he "Mule" or "Mule Man" like the source says? Add the quote, fix the refs and it should be good to go. @Thriley: BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:56, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Erika Jonn

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    Farm in Skåne by Erika Jonn held in Sweden's Nationalmuseum
    Farm in Skåne by Erika Jonn held in Sweden's Nationalmuseum
    • ... that although artist Erika Jonn did not have an exhibition of her work in her native Sweden in her lifetime, the Nationalmuseum in Stockholm now holds her painting "Farm in Skåne"?
    Created by MumphingSquirrel (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

    MumphingSquirrel (talk) 21:12, 27 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough

    Policy compliance:

    Hook eligibility:

    Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: The problem is that there is no topic of the art inside the article that is on the hook. Just a caption of the art is mentioned. And the other problem is that the art is not mentioned on the cited page that is on the hook. All you need is to include a topic for the art inside the article and provide another citation for the hook or else you should change the hook entirely. ChiJap (talk) 21:25, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Suja Khondokar

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    Created by FaysaLBinDaruL (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

    ~ Φαϊσάλ (talk) 13:56, 26 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    HMS Unicorn (1776)

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    • ... that the HMS Unicorn was decommissioned in August 1779, but was recommissioned the following month (September 1779)?
    • Reviewed:
    Created by Commandant Quacks-a-lot (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Commandant Quacks-a-lot (talk) 00:06, 26 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]


    General: Article is new enough and long enough

    Policy compliance:

    • Adequate sourcing: No - History section has unreferenced facts. Service in the American Revolutionary War section has a bulleted list with only one entry referenced. The paragraph introducing the list is also unreferenced, and there is a random reference floating after the list. First paragraph in After service in the American Revolution section is unreferenced. Infobox also has lots of facts not referenced in the infobox nor mentioned/referenced in text
    • Neutral: Yes
    • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Yes

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: No - DYK info is in the article but has no reference
    • Interesting: No - I think the hook could be made interesting if it included the reason why the ship was recommissioned. Without this reason, I don't think it is interesting enough.
    • Other problems: No - mentioning September 1779 is unnecessary, readers will know what month follows August 1779
    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: DYK nomination needs work but more significantly, I think the article itself is not in the proper shape for a DYK. Particularly, the lack of references and the improper formatting of the references the article does have, both of these issues are problematic. Gb321 (talk) 04:31, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on June 26

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    Alan C. Cummings

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    Alan Cummings
    Alan Cummings
    • ... that astrophysicist Alan C. Cummings (pictured) has worked at Caltech for more than 50 years and led weekly campus birdwatching walks for 39 years, documenting over 1,700 walks? Source: Caltech article from 2023 for 50+ years at Caltech: "Voyager Scientist Celebrates 50 Years at Caltech"; for birdwatching: "Cummings has a legacy of his own on campus as one of the founders of Caltech's bird-watching group, which has been going on "bird walks" every week since 1986." and ""We've done over 1,700 walks now," says Cummings."
    Created by Artem.G (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 24 past nominations.

    Artem.G (talk) 14:28, 2 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Calle José Ortega y Gasset

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    The street in 2015.
    The street in 2015.
    • ... that Calle de Lista was renamed due to the death of a philosopher?
    • Source: [30] Madrid es Noticia 4 July 2019
    • Reviewed:
    Created by Earth605 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Earth605 (talk) 05:37, 29 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough

    Policy compliance:

    • Adequate sourcing: No - The article contains references to unreliable sources, such as Blogspot and Wordpress.
    • Neutral: Yes
    • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Yes
    • Other problems: No - Several claims are only presented in single-sentence paragraphs that could easily be in one or two paragraphs altogether. This is not a policy, but it is something to point out; the "History" and "Notable deaths" sections contain examples of WP:PROSELINE. (Linking may also need work. In one instance, Eva Perón Park is linked to the Argentine politician.)

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: Yes
    • Interesting: Yes
    • Other problems: No - The hook refers to Calle de Lista but this was the former name of Calle José Ortega y Gasset. It would be clearer to mention the current name.

    Image eligibility:

    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: This appears to be a good-faith translation, but the hook needs additional work before it is suitable for appearance on the Main Page. Cattos💭 19:31, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    I fixed all problems an thought a new hook:

    ATL1 ... that Calle José Ortega y Gasset is named after a philosopher?

    And fixed the image caption. If you think anything is wrong please ping me!Pinging @Cathodography.

    Palaeocarpinus

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    A Palaeocarpinus fruit
    A Palaeocarpinus fruit
    • ... that Palaeocarpinus fruit fossils (pictured) have been recovered from Cold Ash and Hells Half Acre?
    • Source: Crane 1981 Type locality the Cold Ash Quarry in Reading, England.
    Correa-Narvaez & Manchester 2021 distributions in tble 2 Fossils from the Cold Ash Quarry and new fossils from the Hells Half Acre site in Wyoming
    Moved to mainspace by Kevmin (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 372 past nominations.

    Kevmin § 02:30, 27 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Episode 6994

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    Improved to Good Article status by DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 15 past nominations.

    DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 00:56, 27 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    References

    1. ^ Tyler, Laura-Jayne (19–25 October 2024). "Hits & Misses!". Inside Soap. No. 42. p. 98.

    Marcel Schwerzmann

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    Moved to mainspace by 1AmNobody24 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Nobody (talk) 16:01, 26 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    I added a source that should be alright. The Sea of blue issue shouldn't be too hard to fix, either by unlinking transatlantic or by rewording the sentence. Nobody (talk) 17:53, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on June 27

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    Rusiate Rogoyawa

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    5x expanded by Arconning (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 58 past nominations.

    Arconning (talk) 15:50, 4 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Eduard Hermann (race walker)

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    • ... that Eduard Hermann was a race walker, boxer, and farmer during his lifetime?
    5x expanded by Arconning (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 57 past nominations.

    Arconning (talk) 15:42, 4 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Men in This Town

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    Converted from a redirect by 1arch (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    1arch (talk) 15:42, 3 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Christina Næss

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    • ... that Christina Næss is the only Paralympic gold medalist for the Faroe Islands?
    5x expanded by Arconning (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 52 past nominations.

    Arconning (talk) 08:36, 30 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    • I will review this nomination. – Editør (talk) 23:55, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • The article has improved considerably with your big destubbing edit, but according to the DYK eligibility scan, the article was created on 9 September 2008, but has not been expanded 5x since then, so unfortunately, it looks like the article doesn't meet the newness requirement of WP:DYKCRIT. Some suggestions for further improvement of the article: the first paragraph of the lead and the first paragraph of the Biography section are nearly identical, maybe one can be changed/paraphrased? And I think the repeated use of 'would' in the Biography section should be changed into a regular past tense: "would compete" –> "competed", unless of course there are cases where she eventually didn't compete. – Editør (talk) 00:11, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      @Arconning: Do you think you can fix the eligibility within a week? – Editør (talk) 18:09, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Lord Fitzhenry

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    Created by LEvalyn (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 15 past nominations.

    ~ L 🌸 (talk) 20:31, 28 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    • It's a pleasure to review another gem from LEvalyn. It's a new and comprehensive article. The sourcing is excellent; I especially like the citations to the 18th-century reviews because sources that old are commonly derided as outdated, yet make perfect sense in this context. I see no close paraphrasing problems. I think it would be splendid if the article about Gunning were expanded and nominated within this hook. It has currently got only 460 characters of prose. While I think that a double hook featuring a woman and her work would do very well, this is by no means required for the hook to pass as is. Surtsicna (talk) 08:18, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @LEvalyn and Surtsicna: I agree that an expansion of the Elizabeth Gunning article would be desirable, whether or not it is not nominated within this hook. I have added an ODNB reference, which has not been used so far. However the official character count is 528, so a fivefold expansion would be 2,640 characters. TSventon (talk) 13:09, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I hadn't considered a double hook, but you're both very right that Gunning's article is ripe for expansion! Thank you TSventon for adding the ODNB. I came across several sources on Gunning while researching the book so I think there will be plenty to expand 5x. Let's put this on hold for maybe a week, and Surtsicna, I will ping you again when Gunning's article is also ready! Thank you very much for the kind words and the push :) ~ L 🌸 (talk) 15:42, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @TSventon and Surtsicna: I finished the 5x expansion of Elizabeth Gunning (writer)! In the process I found a hilarious caricature of her-- does this cropped version "read" well enough at DYK size to be worth trying to write a new hook around it, without Lord Fitzhenry...? It shows Gunning losing control of a cannon firing forged love letters, indicating that her scheme to pressure an aristocrat into marriage has backfired. It may be too visually dense to "read" properly at a small size, in which case I'll stick with the Lord Fitzhenry hooks I've already proposed and do a double hook. On my way to do a second QPQ now. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 01:36, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    For my second QPQ, I've reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Juan Bascuñán. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 02:06, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    LEvalyn! When I suggested that you add the Gunning article to the nomination, I did not expect that it would lead to this delight. While I love double hooks (and that was my original idea), I think that the article about Gunning can produce far more attention-grabbing hooks related to the pamphlet war even without the image. I should note, however, that the cannon image is indeed hilarious and legible and would look amazing on the Main Page. One might wonder whether it is right to focus on a woman writer's marriage schemes instead of her work, but the original Lord Fitzhenry hook names her anyway. How about you propose a new hook or two and then we decide? Surtsicna (talk) 09:03, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm glad you think the image "reads" well enough! Let's actually proceed with this just as a Lord Fitzhenry DYK, and shortly I will do a double hook about Gunning and her first novel, currently in progress at Draft:The Packet (novel). I'm thinking of a hook like "DYK that... Elizabeth Gunning (caricature pictured) was the subject of a pamphlet war about a faked engagement, and used her notoriety to market her first novel?" I just need to bring in the relevant secondary material for The Packet. Thanks as always for your push to write more! ~ L 🌸 (talk) 19:03, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Eschiva of Bures

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    • Source: "... a messenger , sent from Tiberias by Princess Eschiva , arrived on horseback in Saforie, where the Latin Kingdom's army was preparing to encounter the invading forces of Saladin ... The king decided, against the better advice of Raymond of Tripoli, to leave Saforie early in the morning and try to relieve beleaguered Tiberias, a decision which led to the disastrous defeat at Haṭṭin two days later." (Braun & Razi 2016, p. 216)
    • ALT1: ... that Princess Eschiva's husband was condemned as an unchivalrous coward for counselling against helping his besieged wife–but when the royal army went to save her, they were destroyed? Source:
      "Gerard of Ridefort and Raynald of Châtillon condemned Raymond’s caution as cowardly and unchivalrous, as it left the count’s wife Eschiva and her attendant ladies at the mercy of Saladin’s army." (Lewis 2017, p. 268)
    • ALT2: ... that Princess Eschiva was instructed by her husband to escape into the sea if she could not defend her castle, but surrendered it when she thought that he and her sons had been killed in battle? Source:
      "Raymond III told his wife Eschiva and her bailifs to take to their boats and find refuge in the sea, should they not be able to defend the town against Saladin , and wait there till he came to save them." (Braun & Razi 2016, p. 217.) "Eschiva, under the assumption that her husband Raymond III of Tripoli and her children had been killed in the Battle of Hattin, agreed to surrender Tiberias’s citadel to Saladin." (Reynolds 2019, pp. 12–13)
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Apolonia Dorregaray Veli
    • Comment: Please consider which hook is most interesting. All opinions are welcome.
    5x expanded by Surtsicna (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 227 past nominations.

    Surtsicna (talk) 19:37, 28 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Julia Santos

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    DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 19:54, 27 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (film)

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    Improved to Good Article status by BarntToust (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    BarntToust 15:40, 27 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    @BarntToust: I've taken the liberty of moving the hooks on that page to this one. For what it's worth, I read the article after seeing it at WP:GARC and the bit about the gold script stuck out; I therefore propose ALT7: ... that a cast member's script for Sonic the Hedgehog 3 cost $100,000 to print?--Launchballer 21:49, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    User:Launchballer I prefer main. Provocative beats impressive in my mind. BarntToust 22:14, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    And mainly because of the fact there's one opportunity to give the idea of Latinas being Shadow's thing a chance to show up on the main page. I could see Jeff Fowler going to GA rather easily and getting a dyk with the concept of him giving the script, and if Jim Carrey were to get to GA, a DYK could be produced of him receiving the script. No other relevant, notable articles for Latina—Shadow business to be included in. BarntToust 22:20, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    I think that the idea of Latinas in the DYK is best because of its genuine uniqueness to this article. Jim Carrey's costly script, I can think of two other places where that would work.

    ...that a script for a Jim Carrey movie cost $100k to print?

    that... it cost Jeff Fowler $100k to print a script for Jim Carrey?

    On that note, it is impossible to include anything, period, on Shadow the Hedgehog's DYK because it's already a good article. Only other place where anything about Latinas could be written. That's my standpoint, considering the opportunity and uniqueness of Shadow liking Latinas. BarntToust 22:30, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Remezcla

    Above is a more concise submission that I'd like to put as final for my viewpoint. BarntToust 22:37, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    • The way this is framed now feels like it'd fall afoul of WP:DYKFICTION. I think that the other issue with this hook, both the original and revised versions, is that it doesn't meet WP:DYKINT- someone with no special knowledge of the Sonic the Hedgehog franchise won't necessarily know who Shadow the Hedgehog is, or why it would be interesting or unusual if he loved Latinas. The idea of Jim Carrey getting a gold script to reprise his role, though, is more likely to be perceived as generally unusual and novel even if someone has never heard of Sonic before. silviaASH (inquire within) 23:00, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    ... that Sonic the Hedgehog 3 makes its character Shadow love Latinas because the film's director wanted an homage to Sonic fandom shitposting?
    There we go, this one technically works within DYKFICTION. But I see where the 100k gold script part falls much more securely within the lines. I'd be chill with either one, be it this one or ALT 7 though given this explanation. BarntToust 23:05, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Xeokit

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    xeokit BIM Viewer
    xeokit BIM Viewer
    • ... that xeokit SDK can visualize 3D BIM models directly in your browser without needing any proprietary software?
    • Source: xeokit SDK enables the visualization of 3D BIM models in standard web browsers without requiring proprietary software, facilitating vendor-neutral workflows helping avoid vendor lock-in.
    • Reviewed:
    Created by Drashevski (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Drashevski (talk) 12:40, 27 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Well first off the hood needs a link to the actual article! Looking it over, and some of the external pages, I think this is reasonable article. My only concern is the cites - there's plenty of them but most of them point back to GitHub or similar. There are some reasonable mentions in 3rd party papers (basically the second half of the cite list) but there's also a fair number of passing mentions. As always I err on the side of inclusion, so if anyone agrees this passes, the issue is the hook. This seems reasonably hooky: Maury Markowitz (talk) 12:25, 28 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    ALT1: ... that the Xeokit software development kit is used to build browser-based programs that can view detailed 3D architectural models (pictured) on the web?
    That still seems a bit too technical or at least specialist. Is there a way to make it more layperson or non-techy friendly? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:04, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm going to disagree with that. The reader has to know what the web is and what a browser is, and I would wager that the average reader what architecture is, and what a 3d model is. They may not know what a software development kit is, but I think they can figure that out from the term itself. This does not seem overly technical or in-universe to me, but YMMV. Maury Markowitz (talk) 23:59, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The layperson probably thinks of "browser" as being like Chrome or Safari (i.e. a web browser), and it's not clear from the hook that it's talking about that. Of course, it could just be because it's full of techy-sounding terms, which muddles the waters somewhat. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:16, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I think we can safely add "web" to the "browser" bit instead of the end, and I don't think we need SDK, so how's this? Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:43, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    ALT2: ... that Xeokit is used to build web browser-based programs that can view detailed 3D architectural models (pictured)?

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    Jennifer English

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    Created by SousukeBeru (talk) and BuySomeApples (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 51 past nominations.

    BuySomeApples (talk) 22:15, 5 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Eva O'Hara

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    Improved to Good Article status by DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 17 past nominations.

    DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 01:15, 4 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Randy D

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    • ... that Randy D became interested in broadcasting while working as a parking attendant at Lincoln Center?
    • ALT1: ... that according to Randy D, his country's noise law "killed" entertainment? Source: "Meanwhile, veteran entertainment promoter Randy Dopwell told SEARCHLIGHT that he believes that when the noise act was enacted entertainment was killed." [42]
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Gauthier Mvumbi
    Moved to mainspace by Joofjoof (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 20 past nominations.

    Joofjoof (talk) 20:25, 1 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Samuel S. Mayerberg

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    Created by Guerreroast (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

    Roast (talk) 05:49, 30 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    • Article is new enough and long enough. One image (File:Samuel Spier Mayerberg 1960 alt.jpg): the source website says this is PD, but I'm not sure how that's possible given that they also say the author is unknown and that it was created in 1960 -- unless there's some special consideration in play, like the author being an employee of the US Government, a work from that date must still be in copyright. No other concerns regarding copyvio, BLP, plagiarism or similar. I'm not convinced about some of the sourcing: this website, for instance, seems to be used to support a date -- what makes it a reliable source? Similarly, one much-used source is local news, which is dicey per WP:RS. More subjectively, I'd like to see a couple of spit-and-polish tweaks before it hits the main page -- for example, is it normal to refer to a Jewish religious group as a "church"? UndercoverClassicist T·C 18:45, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • @UndercoverClassicist: Removed this source; it was a local source from University Academy public school, but I couldn't find any further backing of its reliability. Fixed "church" issue, changed for congregation. Picture is from Harry S. Truman Library, which is federally-ran, so a government employee is extremely likely to have taken the picture.
        • Hm -- I'm not convinced here. A library is a collection of records and documents; it's very unusual for a library not to include materials relevant to its subject made by people to whom it has no relation. Likewise, it's very common for online repositories of this sort to mark media as "public domain" to indicate that they don't know of any copyright, which isn't good enough for us -- we need to be positively sure that no copyright exists. I agree that it's reasonably likely that a government employee took it, but if the source isn't even willing to say that (never mind give a name), I don't think we can use such an assumption as the basis of a PD claim. However, the image would certainly be amenable to an FUR. UndercoverClassicist T·C 20:55, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
        • @UndercoverClassicist: If the picture is questionable, I don’t think a FUR would be possible, because Samuel S. Mayerberg.jpg on Commons also exists, and is lifted from tne Library of Congress. Though, if that also has similar problems, a FUR could be done. Roast (talk) 20:22, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
          • File:Samuel S. Mayerberg.jpg doesn't have a US PD tag, and almost certainly isn't PD in the United States, for similar reasons to the article image. Perhaps you could ask about both images on Commons and see what the view is there? UndercoverClassicist T·C 20:28, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
            • @UndercoverClassicist: So given the Wikimedia Commons discussion is going no where, I’d suggest deleting the pictures from Commons to ensure the DYK passes then worry about a non-free alternative in the in-between time of accepting and its appearence on the front page. Though, I'm unsure how to delete files on Commons, and need help with that. Roast (talk) 16:46, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
              • The conversation on Commons has had less than a day; that's very early to be calling it stalled. Indeed, it's been less than 12 hours since I posted the explanation of what exactly the question was. It wouldn't be necessary to delete the images from Commons to get this DYK through, and I wouldn't recommend opening a deletion request there unless there's a positive reason to believe the images are in copyright (however, to use them in a DYK/GA etc, we need a positive case that they're not copyrighted).

    UndercoverClassicist T·C 16:53, 2 July 2025 (UTC) Local source is from the Kansas City Public Library, which itself cites other newspapers and books, and such should be given the same verdict as the Dictionary of Missouri Biography source—both of which have a citation im common. Roast (talk) 19:33, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Gaetano di Mauro

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    Mitchea99 (talk) 03:36, 29 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]


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    Lourdes Klitzkie

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    • ... that runner Lourdes Klitzkie took up the sport in her late 30s to combat boredom but then qualified for the Olympics?
    5x expanded by Arconning (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 59 past nominations.

    Arconning (talk) 15:02, 5 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Public grocery store

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    Interior view of the commissary at Naval Station Norfolk, August 2002.
    Created by Bohemian Baltimore (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 08:06, 5 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    1953–1954 royal tour of New Zealand

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    Elizabeth II on tour on 25 December 1953
    Elizabeth II on tour on 25 December 1953
    Moved to mainspace by Panamitsu (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 80 past nominations.

    ―Panamitsu (talk) 22:45, 29 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    • Comment I think the stamp would work well as the image for a hook Lajmmoore (talk) 14:13, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • The article is new, technically long enough and well-sourced. I see no copyright issues. What concerns me, Lajmmoore, is that the article looks very much like an engagement diary. They did this and that on this day, then this and that on that day, and so on. While I do not doubt the notability of the topic, I feel that the article fails to present it. Are there no contemporary commentaries on the significance of the visit? Later discussions of long-term significance? Surtsicna (talk) 18:56, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I do not see any discussion of that in the article, Panamitsu. Historians and reporters have commented on it, haven't they? I see academic articles on Google Scholar (at least one of which is readily available) and countless books on Google Books (this one, for example). Surtsicna (talk) 14:50, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    That PDF link won't work because of the way its hosted, you should just mention the name of the article. Traumnovelle (talk) 21:19, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Right, of course. The article is Marketing the Modern Empire: Elizabeth's Royal Progress. Surtsicna (talk) 12:45, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    It's mentioned in the Background and Statistics sections. I appreciate the feedback but what part of the did you know criteria does this fall under? I'm a bit bored of working on this article lol so I don't really want to expand it too much. ―Panamitsu (talk) 22:50, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    It falls under WP:DYKCOMPLETE. I'll gladly give you time to rest from this topic. Perhaps you'll flesh it out later. Surtsicna (talk) 12:45, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Sorry but I don't agree that this article doesn't satisfy WP:DYKCOMPLETE. While it could be expanded more, it has information about the coronation, the possibility of previous royal visits, the amount of people going to see her, stamps, a commemorative medal and the Royal Visit Honours. WP:DYKCOMPLETE lists things such as empty sections and an article about a book that discusses the author but not the contents of the book. I'm really sorry to be bitter like this, but I cannot see the problem with this article's completeness for DYK and I won't be expanding it. ―Panamitsu (talk)

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    Nándor Dáni

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    • ... that sportsman Nándor Dáni competed in athletics, cycling, rowing, and speed skating during his career?
    5x expanded by Arconning (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 61 past nominations.

    Arconning (talk) 10:37, 7 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    André Corvington

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    5x expanded by Arconning (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 60 past nominations.

    Arconning (talk) 12:20, 6 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    I can, Arconning, but if I fail it now, then its only shot at DYK in the future would be a GA promotion. Surtsicna (talk) 09:49, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Surtsicna: Yep yep. :) Arconning (talk) 09:54, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Very well. Perhaps we do see it here as a GA at some point! Surtsicna (talk) 09:58, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I see that the article's been expanded to over 1500 bytes. Do you still want to withdraw this nomination? JuniperChill (talk) 17:40, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Episode 4043

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    Created by DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 20 past nominations.

    DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 09:12, 6 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Kathleen Romoli

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    Moved to mainspace by Miraclepine (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 90 past nominations.

    ミラP@Miraclepine 20:49, 4 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Operation Security and Order

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    • Source: Abdullah, Taufik; Abdurrachman, Sukri; Gunawan, Restu (2012). Malam Bencana 1965 Dalam Belitan Krisis Nasional: Bagian II Konflik Lokal. Jakarta: Yayasan Obor Indonesia. p. 214: "Dalam pertempuran yang sangat tidak seimbang ini, pasukan Banteng Wulung melawan tanpa rasa takut, bahkan cenderung konyol dan nekad, karena mereka bergerak maju hanya dengan senjata pentung atau dengan ikat kepala yang dikebut-kebutkan ke arah lawannya". Translation: "In this highly unequal battle, the Banteng Wulung troops fought without fear, even tended to be silly and reckless, as they advanced armed only with clubs or by wildly waving their headbands toward the enemy."
    Created by Faldi00 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

    Faldi00 (talk) 07:46, 3 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Kattar Karachi

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    Created by M.Billoo2000 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    M. Billoo 15:25, 1 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    @Narutolovehinata5: Thank you for the feedback. Really sorry to disturb, but I see a very similar one currently on display: "... that mine labourer Golekane Mosweu became an Olympic runner after someone noticed his fitness?" And one earlier this month: "... that the Miley Cyrus song "Easy Lover" was intended for three different albums before its release?" Can it be rephrased to look better? M. Billoo 16:06, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    How about rephrase it as: ALT2: ... that rapper Talha Anjum turned into an actor by cinematic representation of his album in the film Kattar Karachi? M. Billoo 21:26, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Suicide by electrocution

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    Electric fence at Auschwitz, 2009
    Electric fence at Auschwitz, 2009
    Moved to mainspace by Daniel Case (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 282 past nominations.

    Daniel Case (talk) 04:24, 1 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Stephen of La Ferté

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    • ... that when the allegedly poisoned Patriarch Stephen was visited by the king and asked how he was, the dying prelate replied, “Sire, I am faring as you desire”?
    • Source: "When the King came to visit the dying Patriarch, to ask how he was, the latter bitterly remarked: ‘Sire, I am faring as you desire.’" (Runciman 1952, p. 177.)
    • ALT1: ... that Stephen of La Ferté was implored by Saint Bernard not to go on a pilgrimage to Jerusalem, but went anyway and became patriarch? Source: "Bernard's reprimand fell on deaf ears. Stephen not only made his pilgrimage but was elected patriarch of Jerusalem in 1128 and never returned to Europe." (Jotischky 2010, p. 6)
    • ALT2: ... that Stephen of La Ferté was waiting for a ship to take him back to Europe from a pilgrimage to Jerusalem when the patriarch of Jerusalem died, and was subsequently elected to succeed him? Source: "He was waiting for a ship home when the patriarch of Jerusalem died. He was promptly elevated to the patriarchate..." (Riley-Smith 1997, p. 184)
    • ALT3: ... that Stephen of La Ferté was appointed patriarch of Jerusalem because he was the king's cousin, but this backfired when Stephen demanded the king's submission? Source: "If Baldwin had hoped that the ties of cousinhood would make for cordial co-operation, he was soon disillusioned." (Runciman 1952, p. 176)
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1953–1954 royal tour of New Zealand
    5x expanded by Surtsicna (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 229 past nominations.

    Surtsicna (talk) 19:37, 30 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Follow Me (lyme & cybelle song)

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    Warren Zevon
    Warren Zevon
    Whitburn, Joel (2001). Top Pop Singles 1955-1999 (9th ed.). US: Record Research Inc. ISBN 0-89820-139-X. Retrieved June 30, 2025, pages 392 & 721
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    Improved to Good Article status by VirreFriberg (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    VirreFriberg (talk) 11:53, 30 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Saskatchewan Marshals Service

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    5x expanded by Ominae (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 20 past nominations.

    Ominae (talk) 10:14, 30 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

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    PJ Judge

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    • ... that a Judge controlled the drug trade in Dublin's north-western suburbs in the 1990s?
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    Created by Ser! (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    ser! (chat to me - see my edits) 13:05, 7 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Winters v. New York

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    • Source: Amy Kiste Nyberg, Seal of Approval: The History of the Comics Code, 38-39. "The legal case of most concern to those drafting state and federal legislation against comic books was a case that dealt, not with a comic book, but an adult crime magazine, Headquarters Detective, True Cases from the Police Blotter." "Gerson Legman, speaking before the Association for the Advancement of Psychotherapy as part of a symposium on comic books organized by Fredric Wertham, noted that the Winters decision would make it difficult to pass legislation against comic books."
    Moved to mainspace by Etzedek24 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

    Etzedek24 (Talk) (Contribs) 03:14, 7 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Cálice

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    • Source: Santos 2012, p. 71 (5 of 8) Esse ambiente bíblico e religioso trazido pela música, intencionalmente, é usado para ludibriar muitas pessoas comuns e, sobretudo, as autoridades, embora essa passagem bíblica surgisse com a intenção, também, de expressar o grau de sofrimento e dor daqueles que estavam submetidos às imposições do governo. --> This biblical and religious atmosphere evoked by the song is intentionally used to mislead many ordinary people and, above all, the authorities, although this biblical reference also served to express the extent of suffering and pain endured by those subjected to the government's impositions.
    Created by Cathodography (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 14 past nominations.

    Cattos💭 19:42, 5 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Andrea Enisuoh

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    • ... that in 1989 activist and writer Andrea Enisuoh was the first Black woman to be elected to the UK National Union of Students Executive Committee?
    • Source: Cooke, Diane (4 April 1989). "Young, Gifted, and Black". The Manchester Evening News. p. 8.
    • ALT1: ... that in 2010, activist Andrea Enisuoh and Hackney residents campaigned to keep the name of their local library, honouring Trinidadian writer CLR James? Source: "Andrea Enisuoh". Women From Hackney's History. 1. The Hackney History Society (Friends of Hackney Archives): 45.
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    Created by I&I22 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Medievalfran (talk) 21:26, 1 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    • Thank you for joining DYK, Medievalfran. The article is new and looks fairly comprehensive given the coverage, but I am afraid that there are some issues with this nomination. Several paragraphs are missing citations. The hooks are missing wikilinks, but that much is easily sorted. The two greater problems with the original hook is that it is not quite supported in the article and that it is not exactly interesting. I had never heard of a National Union of Students Executive Committee. Frankly, being a first black woman member of it does not sound like much. ALT1 is only slightly better. I suppose something could be done with the Trinidadan television transmission thing, but it is not mentioned in the cited source (which is an issue of its own). Surtsicna (talk) 18:22, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]


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    Marc Mac

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    • ... that Marc Mac is a pioneering producer of 90's jungle and drum 'n bass music?
    • Source: Shapiro, Peter (1999). The Rough Guide to Drum 'n' bass. Rough Guides. pp. 71–75. ISBN 9781858284330
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    Created by I&I22 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    I&I22 (talk) 16:10, 3 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    • New enough in mainspace and long enough. Nominator is QPQ-exempt. I don't think the hook works: it's puffery and unattributed. (The discography does not need a citation, though the detail on the labels and versions is probably excessive.) Look for a different fact, I&I22; I don't think this would be allowed to stand unless attributed to someone reasonably well-known. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 18:58, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]


    @Sammi Brie - i don't really understand what you are saying here. Do you mean to express that Marc Mac is not well known? this is not true and a wildly unsubstantiated statement. it is not at all "puffery and unattributed" where did you get that? why would i bother even making the article if he wasn't an important yet overlooked piece of music history - he is well known as a pioneering artist of jungle and d'n b.if you do a little research it is easy to see this. i have no idea what qpg is but i will look it up thank you and figure out citations etc. also i don't understand speaking like this to ppl volunteering their sweet irreplacable time and learning the ropes on wikipedia, "Look for a different fact,". i get it - directness and all that i - i don't mind directness - but it seems a bit abrasive. Anyways, maybe i just have misunderstood you? and am making assumptions as have often encountered aggressive, condescending, unkind, rude, assumptive, suspicious or impatient-sounding comments from other more experienced editors when i have made some newbie error. alrightee i am not on here to bicker but it is fun when the convo is more respectful especially when putting in the time to learn and participate. thanks again and will look into it — Preceding unsigned comment added by I&I22 (talk • contribs) 20:27, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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    Terry Brown (brothel owner)

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    • ... that Terry Brown founded an escort service using helicopters for remote rural areas?
    Created by Schwede66 (talk) and Cloventt (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 172 past nominations.

    Schwede66 09:05, 8 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Iranian external operations

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    • ... that Iran uses criminal networks in foriegn countries to execute its political and security interests?
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    Created by BasselHarfouch (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    BasselHarfouch (talk) 15:19, 7 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Glódís Perla Viggósdóttir

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    Glódís Perla Viggósdóttir
    Glódís Perla Viggósdóttir
    5x expanded by 24Anonymous (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    24Anonymous (talk) 15:56, 6 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Lizzie the Elephant

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    Lizzie the Elephant pulling a cart
    Lizzie the Elephant pulling a cart
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    Created by Commandant Quacks-a-lot (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Commandant Quacks-a-lot (talk) 16:32, 3 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    • Well, this is sweet and definitely attention-grabbing, Commandant Quacks-a-lot. Thank you! It is new, long enough and apparently comprehensive. I see no copyright issues. The sources range from excellent (e.g. the BBC article) to much less so; I see two blogs and two self-published websites. I would also appreciate if the sources were properly cited, with the name of author, date of publication, publisher, etc. Surtsicna (talk) 18:03, 5 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Abhi Na Jaao Chhod Kar

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    SerChevalerie (talk) 14:57, 3 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on July 4

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    50 (Herb Alpert album)

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    Created by JTtheOG (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    JTtheOG (talk) 22:51, 5 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    References

    1. ^ Farber, Jim (September 16, 2024). "Herb Alpert's 50th Album Is Here. What's Kept Him Going Places?". The New York Times.

    Meléndez–Quiñónez dynasty

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    Alfonso Quiñónez Molina
    Alfonso Quiñónez Molina
    Improved to Good Article status by PizzaKing13 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 10 past nominations.

    PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 17:09, 4 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

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    RhonniRose Mantilla

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    Created by DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 19 past nominations.

    DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 09:02, 6 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Neeraj Chopra Classic

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    Gurubrahma (talk) 05:30, 6 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    The bold-linked article currently contains 872 characters of prose, which doesn't meet the 1500 characters requirement of WP:DYKCRIT. – Editør (talk) 23:38, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Breton Civil War, 1341–1343

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    Created by Gog the Mild (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 89 past nominations.

    Gog the Mild (talk) 00:25, 6 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    • Excellent article, Gog the Mild. Thank you. It is long enough and impeccably sourced. I do not see any copyright issues. I am puzzled by the scope of this article versus the scope of Initial campaign of the Breton Civil War, however. This article covers May 1341 – 19 January 1343, while the other covers May 1341 – February 1342 of the same conflict. For that reason I find it difficult to discern how much of the content of this article can be considered "new" for DYK purposes per WP:DYKLEN. Surtsicna (talk) 10:35, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi Surtsicna and thanks for picking up the nomination. This is an overview article. It is the lead article of this topic. (Once I have sorted Vannes it will be going to WP:FGTC.) In a similar way, Roman invasion of Africa (204–201 BC) is the lead article of the topic of the same name which was promoted to FT last month. Breton Civil War, 1341–1343 is aimed at readers who want an overview of the period when royal armies were clashing and things seemed to be building to a climax, but without reading through seven articles with their overlap. The climax then never happened, which is kind of the point. Obviously there will be a degree of overlap between this article and each of the seven sub-articles - especially for their backgrounds and aftermaths - that also is kind of the point.
    I am unsure to what extent any of this addresses your concerns, but hopefully you will let me know. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:01, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    If I understand you correctly, Gog the Mild, your intention is for Breton Civil War, 1341–1343 to have seven sub-articles, one of which is Initial campaign of the Breton Civil War. And then Breton Civil War, 1341–1343 is itself a sub-article of Breton Civil War, right? I do not know how to treat this overlap for the purposes of DYK's newness criterion, but I am very much inclined to pass the nomination because of its sheer quality. Surtsicna (talk) 18:33, 8 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Diaphoretickes

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    — Snoteleks (talk) 22:10, 5 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    The Republic of Nothing

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    • ... that The Republic of Nothing inspired Rush drummer Neil Peart to write a letter to the author, leading him to write his own book? Source: The Chronicle Herald: "It started out with fan letter of sorts from Neil to me concerning my novel, The Republic of Nothing ... He wrote back again, this time telling me he had written a manuscript about riding a bicycle around Cameroon. I said send it along. And he did. ... Thus, in 1996, Pottersfield published The Masked Rider"
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    MediaKyle (talk) 20:10, 5 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Plotkin's Vaccines

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    BD2412 T 16:43, 5 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Dora and the Search for Sol Dorado

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    M. Billoo 15:21, 5 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Aerial combat of 5 October 1914

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    Moondragon21 (talk) 10:05, 5 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on July 6

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    Meier-Gorlin syndrome

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    This photo shows 2 persons with Meier-Gorlin syndrome, who show typical facial features of that syndrome.
    This photo shows 2 persons with Meier-Gorlin syndrome, who show typical facial features of that syndrome.
    • ... that Meier-Gorlin syndrome is a rare genetic disorder that causes problems with growth, underdeveloped kneecaps, and small ears?
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    NotCarlJohnson1992 (talk) 06:57, 8 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Rohard the Elder, Anselm (bishop of Bethlehem), Geoffrey (abbot of the Temple of the Lord)

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    Created by Surtsicna (talk). Number of QPQs required: 3. Nominator has 233 past nominations.

    Surtsicna (talk) 10:48, 7 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Elias (bishop of Tiberias)

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    • ... that when Queen Melisende wanted to get rid of her husband's friend Elias, she made him an offer that he could not refuse?
    • Source: "If she wanted to put selected men in the top positions, Melisende can have had no desire to retain Elias, while Elias could not possibly refuse promotion from chancellor to bishop of Tiberias." (Mayer 1972, p. 117)
    Created by Surtsicna (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 232 past nominations.

    Surtsicna (talk) 15:48, 6 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Bath fire station

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    Bath fire station
    Bath fire station
    • ... that the Art Deco Bath fire station is proposed for demolition with the only part to be saved being a stone crest?
    • Source: Offline, but quotation is: "just one feature will be retained, as 'the existing crest on the building will be reclaimed and repositioned near the new building entrance'" from: "Nooks and Corners". Private Eye. No. 1652. 27 June 2025. p. 22.
    Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 924 past nominations.

    Dumelow (talk) 09:35, 6 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Cliffhanger (novel)

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    DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 09:19, 6 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Montana Manning

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    DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 08:55, 6 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]


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    Valhalla (Camp Ripley)

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    ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 02:23, 8 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Astoria (turkey)

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    Spaghettifier talk 01:47, 8 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    The Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer UK & Ireland Tour 2024

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    JJonahJackalope (talk) 21:32, 7 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Bond End Canal

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    • ... that discharge from a lock on the Bond End Canal was used to flush a sewer?
    • Source: "the short waterway found a new role in helping to solve a common problem of the day: removing sewage ... a system was devised whereby every time the river lock here was used, water was forced through the sewer as a flushing agent" from: "The Bond End Canal". Waterways. No. 276. Summer 2022. pp. 20–22.
    • ALT1: ... that the route of the Bond End Canal later became a railway and then a road? Source: "the route of its infilled sections can be traced through the towns simply by following Evershed Way. This road was built in the late 1980s on the route of a railway, which, in turn, had been constructed on the line of the canal" from: "The Bond End Canal". Waterways. No. 276. Summer 2022. pp. 20–22.
    • ALT2: ... that in the 18th century, workers were ordered to break through the bar separating the Bond End Canal from the Trent and Mersey Canal to try to remove an impediment to trade? Source: "the promoters of the T&M refused to allow a connection between the two canals. As usch the Shobnall Bar cam into being ... this required goods to be transhipped between boards on either side of the bar at what is now Shobnall Basin. This proved such an inconvenience that one night the Burton Boat Co attempted to break through the Shobnall Bar" from:: "The Bond End Canal". Waterways. No. 276. Summer 2022. pp. 20–22. the canal was built in 1775 and the bar was replaced with a lock in 1794
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Public Facility Maintenance Agency
    Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 925 past nominations.

    Dumelow (talk) 20:30, 7 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Alaíde Foppa

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    • Source: "Over time, she formed relationships with members of the revolutionary movement—including a brief romantic relationship with Arévalo, with whom she had a son, Julio [es]—and embraced their ideals." Sourced from Leyte Chávez 2022, p. 129: "Her brief romantic relationship with Juan José Arévalo, the country's first democratically elected president, among other events, highlights the writer's obvious closeness to the revolutionary regime from its earliest years. Even after the relationship between Arévalo and Foppa broke up, her commitment to the Revolution's political and cultural project remained."
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    Spookyaki (talk) 17:17, 7 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Flag of El Salvador

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    Flag of El Salvador
    Flag of El Salvador
    Improved to Good Article status by PizzaKing13 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 11 past nominations.

    PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 16:39, 7 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on July 8

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    Flag of Transnistria

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    State flag of Transnistria
    Improved to Good Article status by Yue (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 35 past nominations.

    Yue🌙 18:39, 8 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Brian Villanueva

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    • ... that in 2024, American football quarterback Brian Villanueva came out of retirement after a 13-year hiatus?
    Improved to Good Article status by WikiOriginal-9 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 18 past nominations.

    ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 18:28, 8 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Marmalade

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    Marmalade on bread.
    Marmalade on bread.
    • ... that the Scottish in the 18th century added more water to Marmalade to produce a less solid preserve than before?
    • Source: Henry, Diana (2012). "Salt Sugar Smoke: How to preserve fruit, vegetables, meat and fish". Hachette UK
    Improved to Good Article status by Floating Orb (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Floating Orb (talk) 17:38, 8 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Pioneer Park (San Diego)

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    • ... that San Diego’s Pioneer Park, now home to a playground and tennis courts, was once a Catholic cemetery—its headstones mostly removed, but the 800 bodies never exhumed?
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    5x expanded by Issac I Navarro (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Issac I Navarro (talk) 16:34, 8 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Mikhl Gordon

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    • ... that Mikhl Gordon's song Di bord humorously depicts a woman grieving her husband's shaved beard?
    Created by Ploni (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 29 past nominations.

     Ploni💬  14:51, 8 July 2025 (UTC).[reply]


    Special occasion holding area

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    See also: WP:SOHA

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