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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 14:52, 25 June 2025 (UTC)

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Carmel Naughton

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ALT1: * ... that having been told that girls were "stupid and couldn't do maths", Carmel Naughton has supported girls (and boys) through a STEM scholarship fund since 2017? same

Created by Bogger (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 34 past nominations.

Bogger (talk) 16:02, 28 May 2025 (UTC).


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Thank you for this interesting article about a philanthropist. Yes, some of us remember the misogyny of yesteryear. My sister and I wanted to join the British Navy, but were told, "the only thing that you will be navigating, my dears, will be a desk" (I later became a SCUBA diving instructor with RYA qualifications, and ran my own dive boat. Hah.) Girl power! Storye book (talk) 16:14, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

  • Note: I have given the article a minor copyedit for Standard English. That does not affect DYK.
  • The article says that at an unnamed school, nuns told Naughton that girls were stupid etc. The article also happens to mention the name of a school (St Louis Monaghan) that Naughton attended. If the school with nuns and insults was not St Louis Monaghan, then that should be made clear, for obvious reasons.
  • ALT0 has 186 characters. That is not beyond the 200-character limit for DYK hooks, but it still looks a bit wordy. Can you suggest a shorter, punchier hook?
  • If we can resolve the above two issues, then this nomination should be good to go. Storye book (talk) 16:14, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
@Bogger: Please address the above.--Launchballer 16:14, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
(sorry I missed the review last week.) I've moved the reference to the nun away from the immediate mention of the school, in case it wasn't in that school, (though I suspect it was). As for a shorter hook:

ALT1: * ... that having been told that girls were "stupid and couldn't do maths", Carmel Naughton has supported girls (and boys) through a STEM scholarship fund since 2017? same Thanks, -Bogger (talk) 23:36, 11 June 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, Bogger. Your correction in the article is fine. Please could you now also look at my above concern about the length of the hook? Could we remove "Naughton Foundation's", for example, so that the hook reads "a STEM scholarship fund"? If you want to change the hook wording, please give us an ALT1, so that I can approve it. Storye book (talk) 10:19, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
I included ALT1 in my previous message, now added to the top for clarity -Bogger (talk) 12:34, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
Apologies, Bogger, and thank you for your patience, I don't know how I missed that. Good to go, now. Storye book (talk) 08:13, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
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