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Count of DYK Hooks | ||
Section | # of Hooks | # Verified |
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April 14 | 1 | |
May 6 | 1 | |
May 21 | 1 | |
May 25 | 1 | |
May 27 | 1 | 1 |
May 28 | 2 | 1 |
May 30 | 2 | |
May 31 | 1 | |
June 6 | 3 | |
June 7 | 2 | |
June 9 | 1 | 1 |
June 10 | 2 | |
June 11 | 3 | |
June 12 | 2 | 1 |
June 15 | 2 | |
June 16 | 2 | 1 |
June 17 | 3 | 2 |
June 18 | 2 | |
June 19 | 2 | |
June 20 | 3 | 1 |
June 21 | 4 | 3 |
June 22 | 7 | 4 |
June 23 | 6 | 3 |
June 24 | 11 | 6 |
June 25 | 8 | 3 |
June 26 | 6 | 4 |
June 27 | 6 | 2 |
June 28 | 5 | 2 |
June 29 | 6 | 4 |
June 30 | 11 | 4 |
July 1 | 4 | 3 |
July 2 | 6 | 5 |
July 3 | 6 | 5 |
July 4 | 6 | 6 |
July 5 | 13 | 9 |
July 6 | 14 | 9 |
July 7 | 10 | 6 |
July 8 | 11 | 8 |
July 9 | 12 | 7 |
July 10 | 9 | 3 |
July 11 | 12 | 5 |
July 12 | 5 | 3 |
July 13 | 8 | 4 |
July 14 | 9 | 4 |
July 15 | 8 | 3 |
July 16 | 8 | 1 |
July 17 | 11 | 4 |
July 18 | 8 | 6 |
July 19 | 4 | 1 |
July 20 | 11 | 5 |
July 21 | 9 | 5 |
July 22 | 3 | |
July 23 | ||
Total | 294 | 145 |
Last updated 03:13, 23 July 2025 UTC Current time is 04:57, 23 July 2025 UTC [refresh] |
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Frequently asked questions
[edit]How do I write an interesting hook?
Successful hooks tend to have several traits. Most importantly, they share a surprising or intriguing fact. They give readers enough context to understand the hook, but leave enough out to make them want to learn more. They are written for a general audience who has no prior knowledge of or interest in the topic area. Lastly, they are concise, and do not attempt to cover multiple facts or present information about the subject beyond what's needed to understand the hook.
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Instructions for reviewers
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Advanced procedures
[edit]How to promote an accepted hook
[edit]At-a-glance instructions on how to promote an approved hook to a prep area
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How to remove a rejected hook
[edit]- Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
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How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue
[edit]- Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
- Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
- View the edit history for that page
- Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
- Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
- Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
- If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.
How to move a nomination subpage to a new name
[edit]- Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.
Nominations
[edit]Older nominations
[edit]Articles created/expanded on April 14
[edit]Iblis
- ... that due to the similarities in function between Iblis's web and the Hindu concept of māyā, the seventeenth-century Mughal Dara Shikoh sought to reconcile the Upanishads with Sufi cosmology?
- Source: Barry, M. A. (2004). Figurative art in medieval Islam and the riddle of Bihzad of Herat (1465-1535). Flammarion.: 246
- Reviewed:
VenusFeuerFalle (talk) 14:49, 14 April 2025 (UTC).
Original discussion resulting in a GAR and a five-week hold
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With that, I would also like to ask, if there are any further objections RoySmith, Zanahary, Kingsif, Johnbod?
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Reopened per WT:DYK. New review needed. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:28, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 6
[edit]Meg White
- ... that White Stripes drummer Meg White began playing the drums on Bastille Day, 1997?
- Reviewed:
Watagwaan (talk) 00:19, 6 May 2025 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems |
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Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation |
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Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px. |
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QPQ: None required. |
Overall: Aneirinn (talk) 17:37, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
- I feel like this hook doesn't meet WP:DYKINT – essentially all this says is "a drummer started drumming on a day" DimensionalFusion (talk · she/her) 07:14, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... while Meg White's drumming initially drew mixed reactions, it earned retrospective praise and she is considered a key figure in the garage rock revival of the 2000s?
- That better @DimensionalFusion? TarnishedPathtalk 11:44, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
ALT1 needs a review. I agree that ALT0 is not interesting. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:41, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- I don't know if this would meet DYKBLP, but would a hook revolving about her not making a public appearance since 2009 also be a possible option? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:32, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- It probably would, but I'd probably promote ALT1a: ... that Meg White (pictured) is considered a key figure in the 2000s garage rock revival? This still needs a review though.--Launchballer 22:17, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- I don't know if this would meet DYKBLP, but would a hook revolving about her not making a public appearance since 2009 also be a possible option? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:32, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
Review
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Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px. |
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Overall: Article is new enough, since it became GA, and is long enough. Article is well sourced and neutral. Earwig shows a high score, but across the ten sources I looked at these are all for quotations. Hook ALT1a is interesting, but is not cited in the nomination, please could you provide this Aneirinn or TarnishedPath? Pic if free, used in article and clear, but since the angle is a bit weird, its not neccessarily obvious who it isin my opinion. I wonder if the one of her in red, at the drumkit (or a crop of it) might work better? QPQ is not required as it is the nominator's first. Thanks for improving the article (I made one adjustment to separate the peppermint sentence) Lajmmoore (talk) 17:21, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Murray, Robin (15 March 2023). "Meg White Is One Of Rock's Great Drummers". Clash.
Tyler, Zoe (28 April 2025). "Meg White To Rock The Hall Of Fame". Fizzy Mag.
In regard to the picture, the angle is impeccable. Playing those drums is hard to do, it's true. Aneirinn (talk) 18:24, 1 July 2025 (UTC)Thanks, refs are good, I'll leave the image decision for the promoter Lajmmoore (talk) 18:28, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Murray, Robin (15 March 2023). "Meg White Is One Of Rock's Great Drummers". Clash.
I like this fact a lot! Much better than my original proposal. I don't see why we should change the image UNLESS you want one with her drum kit in view. In that case, we could use File:Meg White.jpg (The one I put) Let me know what you think! I'm really fine with either or. Watagwaan (talk) 22:09, 6 May 2025 (UTC)
Given that the hook is going to go live in two days, and per concerns raised over at WT:DYK#Meg White (nom), I have pulled this for now for further work. The nomination is over two months old so technically this would fall under WP:DYKTIMEOUT, but given the circumstances I would suggest this be given an extra week to address remaining concerns before closure is considered. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:26, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Watagwaan, Aneirinn, DimensionalFusion, Launchballer, Lajmmoore, and Amakuru: Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:09, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- How does this alternative hook sound? I'm not sure if it's BLP compliant, but it could still be workshopped.
- ALT2 ... that as of 2023, Meg White (pictured), described as a key figure in the 2000s garage-rock revival, has not made any public appearances since 2009?
- ALT2 also takes into account Amakuru's concerns regarding the "key figure" claim. I'm not fond of the "as of 2023" qualifier, but without it the hook would likely be making a trip to WP:ERRORS. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:28, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- How does this alternative hook sound? I'm not sure if it's BLP compliant, but it could still be workshopped.
Articles created/expanded on May 21
[edit]Regan Garden
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that within 90 years, ownership of a two-story house (pictured) changed seven times among four countries? - Source: Various sources in the article. Pretty much the entire History section.
ALT1: ... that a two-story house was listed for 1.2 billion Chinese Yuan?- ALT2: ...
that occupants of a two-story house (pictured) include a British businessman, Chinese and Japanese armies, two textile companies, and a consulting firm? - Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jeremiah Chamberlain
'''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 14:28, 29 May 2025 (UTC).
Article is new enough and long enough. Hook fact is verified in the sources for 0 and ALT2 - rejecting ALT1 as the source reads “1.2 亿元” - 120 million; not as impressive. QPQ has been provided. No copyvio detected, as expected when all sources are in Chinese. Image is… clear enough at that size, and adequately licensed. Good to go. Strongly prefer ALT2. Juxlos (talk) 09:02, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
Pulled. The source says ownership "changed seven times among four countries" but at least two of these were "occupations" rather than ownership. The ALT hook isn't very good either, so I have returned this one for further discussion. Gatoclass (talk) 10:54, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Gatoclass: would ALT2 be good then? It's supported by the sources and somewhat interesting [[User:CanonNi]] (💬 • ✍️) 02:55, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- IMO ALT2 is a DYKINT fail. Suggested alt:
- ALT3: ... that British hotelier Victor Sassoon lost his private residence, Regan Garden, after the communist takeover of Shanghai? Gatoclass (talk) 10:51, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- While I think ALT3 is a better hook, I do not see why ALT2 fails DYKINT. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:22, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- Firstly, it should be "troops" not "armies". But was the house literally occupied by troops from both armies? The article isn't 100% clear on that.
- But regardless, it still just reads as a random list of occupiers. What house doesn't have very different occupiers over the course of its history? That is not unusual at all. Gatoclass (talk) 12:57, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- It could be for a layperson. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:20, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- Well, it's really a mansion, not just a 'two-story house". Which incidentally is another problem with that hook IMO. Gatoclass (talk) 15:02, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- It could be for a layperson. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:20, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- While I think ALT3 is a better hook, I do not see why ALT2 fails DYKINT. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:22, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- IMO ALT2 is a DYKINT fail. Suggested alt:
Anyhow, since we agree that ALT3 is the better hook, somebody is needed to review it. Gatoclass (talk) 09:07, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
The body never mentions that the house was the private residence of Victor Sassoon, only that it was owned by a company. It's also not sated that Sassoon was a hotelier (what a life though). Inclined to agree a house changing hands is not particularly unique. Are the 20 acres and 104 acres adjoining? CMD (talk) 08:23, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
With the nominator's lack of activity, disagreements regarding a hook, and what CMD mentioned, it does not seem that the nomination has a path forward anymore. Although technically this doesn't time out for another week, I'm marking this for closure early given the circumstances. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:44, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- FWIW the zhwiki articles sources this claim to a permanent dead link and a book available at the Internet Archive. I skimmed the latter, and unfortunately didn't find anything relevant. And it's in Chinese (simplified) and without any OCR, not even for the English parentheticals for proper nouns. Aaron Liu (talk) 03:25, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- But anyhow, we don't need to say this was his residence. We could just say it was his mansion, a fact that is well-cited in the article. The fact that he was a hotelier also doesn't need to be in the article as long as it's verifiable, which it is: Sassoon's article's says this in the lead; uncited, but that shouldn't be a problem as what's cited is that
He acquired the Cathay Land Company, the Cathay Hotel Company and at least 50 other companies. Sassoon built the Cathay Hotel (now the Peace Hotel) in 1929, and other large hotels, office buildings and residences, many in The Bund, a waterfront area in central Shanghai (including Hamilton House, Metropole Hotel and Embankment). At one time, he owned over 1,800 properties there.
- I'll also add that I personally find it interesting that the house changed so many hands within 10, 20 years, but there appears to be consensus that this hook is the certified boringer of all time. Aaron Liu (talk) 03:31, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hooks must be directly verifiable from the citations in the article (WP:DYKHOOKCITE), not generally verifiable otherwise. In practice we expect hooks to be supported by article text as well. The body as it stands suggests it was the company's property ("The company then purchased 20 acres of land"), not Sasoon's directly. The only personal link is "seeking to repossess", which may have been on behalf of the company. Due to this, the claim in the lead is not currently supported by the body. I'm not a big TIMEOUT fan, but these are items that would need to be fixed to stave off a trip to ERRORS. CMD (talk) 09:15, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- But anyhow, we don't need to say this was his residence. We could just say it was his mansion, a fact that is well-cited in the article. The fact that he was a hotelier also doesn't need to be in the article as long as it's verifiable, which it is: Sassoon's article's says this in the lead; uncited, but that shouldn't be a problem as what's cited is that
Articles created/expanded on May 25
[edit]2024 European Athletics Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay, 2024 World Athletics Indoor Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay
- ... that the Dutch team (pictured) anchored by Femke Bol won the women's 4 × 400 metres relay at the European Athletics Championships as well as at the World Athletics Indoor Championships in 2024?
- Source: #1 "1 NED - NETHERLANDS 9 0.139 3:22.39 EL / 1913 KLAVER Lieke 50.57 (1) / 1915 PEETERS Cathelijn 50.96 (5) 1:41.53 (2) / 1908 DE WITTE Lisanne 50.41 (1) 2:31.94 (1) / 1906 BOL Femke 50.45 (6)" (link)
- Source: #2 "1 NETHERLANDS NED 5 0.180 3:25.07 WL / 712 Lieke KLAVER 50.26 (1) / 713 Cathelijn PEETERS 51.99 (5) 1:42.25 (1) / 710 Lisanne DE WITTE 52.28 (3) 2:34.53 (1) / 709 Femke BOL 50.54 (3)" (link)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Wang Yungui, Template:Did you know nominations/American Samoa at the 2022 Winter Olympics, Template:Did you know nominations/Leon Hatziioannou, Template:Did you know nominations/...Ready for It?
- Comment: I chose to order the boldlinked articles from smaller to bigger region (European, world) instead of earlier to later event (world, European), because this made more sense to me reading the hook, but this can obviously be switched if preferred.
Editør (talk) 19:42, 25 May 2025 (UTC).
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Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems |
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Overall: These all look good to me. Great work.
- Thank you for your review. – Editør (talk) 15:51, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
Pulled per WT:DYK discussion to work on a better hook. RoySmith (talk) 16:14, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Editør: Can you propose some ALT hooks, or should this nomination be closed as unsuccessful? Z1720 (talk) 15:16, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- I cannot come up with a combined hook, so I will try separate hooks.
- Here are two alternative hooks for 2024 European Athletics Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay. – Editør (talk) 16:58, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1 ... that in 2024, the Dutch women's team was the first to successfully defend (final pictured) the European women's 4 × 400 metres relay title since 2002? (Source previous wins: Statistics Handbook, source #2 in the article; source win in 2024: Results Book, source #1 in the article)
- ALT2 ... that sprinter Femke Bol (pictured in the final) thought it was "super super super cool" that the Dutch women's 4 × 400 metres relay team successfully defended their European title? (Source: NOS, a Dutch-language article with video, source #13 in the article)
- And here is an alternative hook for 2024 World Athletics Indoor Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay. – Editør (talk) 17:17, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- ALT3 ... that the Dutch women's 4 × 400 metres relay team (pictured) won their first world indoor title in 2024? (Source for previous wins: source #3 in the article; source for win: source #2 in the article)
- Please also see the nomination Template:Did you know nominations/2023 European Athletics Indoor Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay with alt hooks where this 2024 event is combined with others from 2021, 2022, 2023, and 2025. – Editør (talk) 19:28, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- Now that 2024 European Athletics Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay is used in a five-article hook, that only leaves the 2024 World Athletics Indoor Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay to get a hook approved. Below is another option for this article. – Editør (talk) 15:41, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- ALT4 ... that the relay teams of five countries set seven national records during the women's 4 × 400 metres relay at the 2024 World Athletics Indoor Championships (winners pictured)?
- Now that 2024 European Athletics Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay is used in a five-article hook, that only leaves the 2024 World Athletics Indoor Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay to get a hook approved. Below is another option for this article. – Editør (talk) 15:41, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Please also see the nomination Template:Did you know nominations/2023 European Athletics Indoor Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay with alt hooks where this 2024 event is combined with others from 2021, 2022, 2023, and 2025. – Editør (talk) 19:28, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 28
[edit]Diagnostic overshadowing in autism
- ... that that chronic pain or depression in autistic people is sometimes misread as “just part of autism,” delaying diagnosis and care?
- Source: “Autistic individuals... experience elevated rates of chronic physical conditions, yet symptoms are often dismissed as part of autism rather than investigated as medical concerns.”
- — Diagnostic overshadowing in autism article, citing:
- Buie et al., 2010. Evaluation, Diagnosis, and Treatment of Gastrointestinal Disorders in Individuals With ASDs: A Consensus Report. PMID: 20048083
- ALT1: ... that that older autistic adults may go untreated for conditions like sensory loss, pain, or memory decline because their symptoms are wrongly attributed to autism?
- Source: “Older autistic adults... may be at heightened risk for misattributed cognitive decline (e.g., assuming communication challenges reflect autism when it may signal aging-related dementia or memory loss), untreated sensory loss... or inadequate pain management.”
- — Diagnostic overshadowing in autism article, citing:
- Hand et al., 2020. Prevalence of physical and mental health conditions in Medicare-enrolled, autistic older adults. PMID: 31773968
- Reviewed:
- Comment: This is my first DYK nomination. This article highlights a significant and under-recognized health equity issue in autism: how co-occurring conditions like chronic pain or memory decline may be missed due to diagnostic overshadowing.
PulsarPen (talk) 17:37, 4 June 2025 (UTC).
- @PulsarPen: Thanks for writing an important article like this! Here's the DYK review:
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Not all paragraphs have citations at the end.
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- ALT0 isn't fully supported by the article - chronic pain and depression aren't specifically mentioned in the relevant sentence.
- Interesting:
- Other problems:
- Both hooks need formatting changes.
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Overall: The hooks aren't formatted correctly - this guideline describes the standard style that hooks should be written in. As well as this, the first hook (ALT0) isn't supported by the article. Here's suggestions for improving your hooks, with correct formatting and the first hook's issue fixed:
- ALT0: ... that chronic conditions in autistic people are sometimes misread as "just part of autism", delaying diagnosis and care?
- ALT1: ... that older autistic adults may go untreated for conditions like sensory loss, pain, or memory decline because their symptoms are wrongly attributed to autism?
To have the review passed, you'll also have to add citations to the end of a few paragraphs, as "all content that could reasonably be challenged ... must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose)." (from this guideline). Here's all the instances that need a citation:
- Section "Physical health in autistics", paragraph starting "Such misattributions can result in..."
- Section "Diagnostic overshadowing in reverse", paragraph starting "This form of overshadowing delays access to..."
- The first paragraph of the "Systemic contributors" section
- Section "Diagnostic overshadowing over the lifespan", paragraph starting "This form of lifespan overshadowing reflects..."
And one more minor thing: this doesn't affect whether or not the review passes, but usually when providing sources in DYK nominations, quotes are given from the citations themselves in order to make it easier for the reviewer to verify that the hooks are sourced.
Once the citation issues have been fixed, I'll be happy to pass this! I personally think that the first hook is a little more interesting than the second. Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 23:33, 7 June 2025 (UTC)
- @PulsarPen: Courtesy ping to let you know that this DYK will be rejected for inactivity soon if there's no reply. Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 15:52, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
Hi @Suntooooth and @IntentionallyDense, thank you both for your time and thoughtful feedback on this DYK. I’ve carefully addressed each point as follows: My intended edits are below. I’m struggling a bit about how to edit the DYK page…. Please bear with me as I try to figure this out (also appreciate any help on the adding my intended edits below) — Preceding unsigned comment added by PulsarPen (talk • contribs) 00:10, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
1. Synthesis Concern (IntentionallyDense) Reviewer comment: The article previously cited only epilepsy and GI disorders but made a broader claim about chronic conditions, which could be WP:SYNTH. My response: I've rewritten the sentence to remove the unsourced generalization. The updated phrasing now ties each condition (e.g., chronic pain, GI symptoms, autoimmune conditions) to secondary sources that explicitly discuss them. I also added:
- Mason et al. (2019): A systematic review that documents elevated chronic physical health conditions in autistic adults.
- Croen et al. (2015): A population-level study supporting multisystem health disparities.
This ensures that the revised statement reflects the scope of the sources used and avoids synthesis.
2. Hook Citation Support (Suntooooth) Reviewer comment: ALT0 originally referenced chronic pain and depression, but those conditions weren’t clearly cited in the article sentence used. My response: I revised the hook for clarity and ensured it matches the wording and sourcing in the article. The final hook is now: ALT0: ... that chronic conditions in autistic people are sometimes misread as "just part of autism", delaying diagnosis and care? This wording directly reflects the cited section of the article, which now ends with high-quality secondary citations (e.g., Mason et al. 2019, Buie et al. 2010).
3. Citation Placement at End of Paragraphs Reviewer comment: Several paragraphs did not end with citations as required. My response: I’ve reviewed and updated all flagged paragraphs to ensure proper citation placement, specifically:
- “Physical health in autistics” — now ends with Mason et al. (2019)
- “Diagnostic overshadowing in reverse” — now ends with Moyse & Porter (2015), a secondary source
- First paragraph of “Systemic contributors” — updated to cite Mason et al. (2019)
- Paragraph in “Diagnostic overshadowing over the lifespan” — ends with Croen et al. (2015) and Mason et al. (2019)
4. Hook Formatting Reviewer comment: Hooks weren’t in standard format. My response: Both hooks have now been updated to follow the DYK format:
- ALT0: ... that chronic conditions in autistic people are sometimes misread as "just part of autism", delaying diagnosis and care?
- ALT1: ... that older autistic adults may go untreated for conditions like sensory loss, pain, or memory decline because their symptoms are wrongly attributed to autism?
Each now appears as a complete question in DYK style and reflects a verified section in the article with inline secondary citations.
5. Quotes from Sources (Optional Suggestion) Reviewer suggestion: Consider quoting the sources in the DYK nomination to make reviewer verification easier. My response: I’ve added direct quote snippets from Buie et al. (2010), Mason et al. (2019), and Croen et al. (2015) into the nomination template to make verification easier.
“Autistic individuals experience elevated rates of a wide range of chronic physical conditions…” Mason et al. (2019) “Chronic constipation, abdominal pain, and other GI symptoms… are often misinterpreted as behavioral issues in autism.” –Buie et al. (2010) “Autistic adults had significantly higher rates of chronic conditions including hypertension, diabetes, and dementia.” Croen et al. (2015) — Preceding unsigned comment added by PulsarPen (talk • contribs) 00:08, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply, but I'm going to have to ask for a second opinion from another reviewer. I'm not 100% sure that this should pass, and I'm on holiday right now so I don't have time to give this the attention it deserves - but I don't think it's a straightforward pass. (Also, you obviously didn't read the format guideline I linked in the review.) Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 00:26, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
The article is currently tagged for issues relating to potential OR and SYNTH, and there is some discussion on this in the talkpage. The page cannot proceed through DYK while resolution of those issues is pending. I don't want this to timeout as it may have taken on the appearance of a slightly byzantine process, but at the same time I'm sure everyone agrees that this is an important topic and it's important to get it right, especially for a main page appearance. CMD (talk) 08:40, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 30
[edit]Lü Hung-chih
- ... that the longest-serving leader of Taiwan's Social Democratic Party was a heavy metal singer? Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20220517134627/https://www.thenewslens.com/feature/tnbt/71244
'''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 13:15, 30 May 2025 (UTC).
@CanonNi: Article is new enough and -just- long enough. QPQ has been provided, copyvio not detected (and unlikely due to Taiwanese-only sources). The hook, though, states that Lü is "the longest-serving leader", a factoid which is not mentioned in the article (or in the thenewslens.com article, which was published well before him being leader). Could you provide a mention and a source for that claim? Juxlos (talk) 04:12, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Juxlos: thanks for the review! The sources for that claim would be the the official source for his term (4 years) and a table on zhwiki that lists all leaders and their terms, based on multiple sources. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 05:28, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- @CanonNi: Zhwiki is not an acceptable WP:RS; could you get another source supporting that claim? Maybe the party's website or somesuch. Also, the claim needs to be within the article - the average reader would not be wandering over to zhwiki. Juxlos (talk) 08:06, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- Failing that, you could go with an alternate hook:
- ALT1: ... that a heavy metal singer was leader of Taiwan's Social Democratic Party between 2021 and 2024?
- ALT2: ... that a former heavy metal singer was leader of Taiwan's Social Democratic Party between 2021 and 2024? (if no longer active)
- Juxlos (talk) 08:09, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Juxlos: Ah, alright. Let's go with ALT1 then, since sources seem to suggest the band still being somewhat active. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 07:13, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
@CanonNi: Are you interested in addressing the concerns? Here's the link to the WT:DYK discussion. Z1720 (talk) 22:59, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- The nominator has not edited in ten days. Given the circumstances and their lack of activity (their last edits prior to July 10 were in late June), I would not oppose closing this unless another editor is willing to adopt it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:01, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
Fire-eye
- ... that the fire-eye antbirds' (pictured) calls instead of songs are used to tell the species apart?
- Source: In a 2017 study, researchers found that "when [they] examined Pyriglena
vocalizations in this context, the outcomes revealed substantial diversity in their calls, rather than their songs [thus it] underscores the need to consider all vocalizations in taxonomic studies."
https://doi.org/10.11646%2Fzootaxa.4291.2.3- Reviewed:
Tkronos1 (talk) 13:08, 30 May 2025 (UTC).
No copyvio, reliable sources, good image, sufficient length of article. Suggesting a slightly shorter hook: ALT1 ... that the fire-eye antbirds' (pictured) use calls (not songs) to identify different antbird species? Jaireeodell (talk) 20:37, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Jaireeodell: Hooks must not contain parentheses outside of (pictured) per WP:DYK200.--Launchballer 16:41, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Thanks! I didn't know that. Would this work? ALT1 ... that the fire-eye antbirds' (pictured) use calls, not songs, to identify different antbird species? Jaireeodell (talk) 21:36, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
- Fine by me, though I recommend ALT1a: ... that fire-eye antbirds (pictured) use calls to identify different antbird species rather than songs?. It's the same as ALT0 with no new information, so you could approve it yourself.--Launchballer 13:21, 10 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Thanks! I didn't know that. Would this work? ALT1 ... that the fire-eye antbirds' (pictured) use calls, not songs, to identify different antbird species? Jaireeodell (talk) 21:36, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Jaireeodell: Hooks must not contain parentheses outside of (pictured) per WP:DYK200.--Launchballer 16:41, 8 June 2025 (UTC)
@Launchballer and Jaireeodell: Are we certain that the source says it is the birds who use these calls? To me it sounds like it says that it is the researchers who do. Surtsicna (talk) 18:14, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Well, they aren't calling to blend in with other species, are they? Even so, to your point, would this work: ALT2: ... that fire-eye antbirds (pictured) may be identified from different antbird species by their calls rather than their songs?. Jaireeodell (talk) 19:11, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Jaireeodell I think that is okay in essence, although some tweaks to "may be identified from different antbird species" could reduce redundancy, for example "may be distinguished from each other". CMD (talk) 08:49, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on May 31
[edit]Werner Mamugwe
- ... that in 1962 SWANU leader Werner Mamugwe was banned from entering Bechuanaland?
- Source: Oiva Angula. SWAPO Captive: A Comrade’s Experience of Betrayal and Torture. Penguin Random House South Africa, 2018
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Franklin Sonn, Template:Did you know nominations/Najmul Akhyar
Soman (talk) 23:32, 31 May 2025 (UTC).
- I will take this review Dwkaminski (talk) 13:54, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
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Overall: Dwkaminski (talk) 13:54, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
- Review comments:
- Couldn't access Bollinger, Gowaseb or Putz/Von Egidy/Caplan references - but AGF
- Not quite sure what to make of the Dag refrence - page 36 is a list of footnotes. I don't see any mention of his chairmanship on this page. It is redundant with reference 7 so might not be needed.
- SWANU chair, imprisonment and exile section - ref 1 does not support the months - "In August 1966 he attempted to re-enter South West Africa through the Caprivi strip" and "On September 7, 1966 he was transferred to Pretoria Central Prison." - either add reference to support or remove months from article
- Earwing copyvio detector shows 3.8% - copyright violation unlikely
- @Soman:Just minor changes above - please make those changes and I'll approve - well sourced although I could not access several of them - hook is interesting however the story about being left in the wilderness to fend for himself would also be an interesting hook. Dwkaminski (talk) 15:29, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
- Dag reference backs up the claim that "Mamugwe helped edit the newspaper South West News - Suidwes Nuus" ("One of the young men helping Ngavirue and Veii with the editing of SWN was Werner Mamugwe."). The Angula reference clearly mentions the dates August 14, 1966 and September 7, 1966. --Soman (talk) 23:17, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
- I see the dates in the quote now. Approved. Thanks! Dwkaminski (talk) 14:54, 10 June 2025 (UTC)
@Soman and Dwkaminski: not sure why the hook is "likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest"; could we have another suggestion? Thanks, ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:17, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- I disagree with the assertion that events in Africa would not be perceived as intriguing by readers. If a US politician would be banned from entry into Canada, would you consider that a noteworthy fact? --Soman (talk) 15:38, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- Being "noteworthy" has no relevance. To repeat, what matters is that the hook is "likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest". What percentage of worldwide readers understand what the US and Canada is—probably above 75%, thus meeting the requirement for "likely". What percentage of worldwide readers understand what SWANU and Bechuanaland are? Probably below 0.5%. Thus you can provide context, or a new hook. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 10:01, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: Maybe this reword works better?
- Being "noteworthy" has no relevance. To repeat, what matters is that the hook is "likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest". What percentage of worldwide readers understand what the US and Canada is—probably above 75%, thus meeting the requirement for "likely". What percentage of worldwide readers understand what SWANU and Bechuanaland are? Probably below 0.5%. Thus you can provide context, or a new hook. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 10:01, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- I disagree with the assertion that events in Africa would not be perceived as intriguing by readers. If a US politician would be banned from entry into Canada, would you consider that a noteworthy fact? --Soman (talk) 15:38, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- I see the dates in the quote now. Approved. Thanks! Dwkaminski (talk) 14:54, 10 June 2025 (UTC)
- Dag reference backs up the claim that "Mamugwe helped edit the newspaper South West News - Suidwes Nuus" ("One of the young men helping Ngavirue and Veii with the editing of SWN was Werner Mamugwe."). The Angula reference clearly mentions the dates August 14, 1966 and September 7, 1966. --Soman (talk) 23:17, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
- ALT0a ... that in 1962, Namibian activist Werner Mamugwe was banned from entering Bechuanaland, present-day Botswana?
- Admittedly it's clunky, but the context is there at least. The issue is that the article does not elaborate on why he was banned, and the article does not discuss it further other than the mention. If it could be elaborated on, maybe a proper hook could be proposed. Other than that, I think the most interesting part of the article was the one about how he had to survive a few days in the wilderness, although I don't know how to write that as a hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:02, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- Better as ALT0b: ... that the Namibian activist Werner Mamugwe was once banned from entering the Bechuanaland Protectorate? which could interest readers more. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:12, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Soman: Any concerns with ALT0b? @Dwkaminski: As the original reviewer, can you check to ensure ALT0b is approved? Z1720 (talk) 23:01, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Better as ALT0b: ... that the Namibian activist Werner Mamugwe was once banned from entering the Bechuanaland Protectorate? which could interest readers more. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:12, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- How about ALT0c: ... that Namibian activist Werner Mamugwe was banned from entering Bechuanaland Protectorate due to his political activities? Dwkaminski (talk) 13:06, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 6
[edit]Michelle Pfeiffer (Ethel Cain song)
- ... that Michelle Pfeiffer stares back?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Visit Myanmar Year
- Comment: Driveby nom intended for WP:DYKAPRIL.
Launchballer 00:07, 12 June 2025 (UTC).
I understand that Pfeiffer is apparently a popular actress (although I'm not very familiar with her), and that this is intended to be an April Fools' hook, but as currently written, I can't see how this hook is interesting to a broad audience. Do you have any other, more "normal" hook proposals? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:01, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- I did mention at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Quit Dreaming and Get on the Beam that 5000+ views a day says a broad audience knows who she is and that therefore almost any hook would pass the 'intriguing' part of WP:DYKINT. I'm not going to refuse to suggest a "normal" hook at this point, but given that pop music hooks do poorly at WP:DYKSTATS (I was shocked by how badly Push 2 Start did), I strongly recommend that we go with an April Fool's hook for this (albeit maybe not this one).--Launchballer 01:03, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- Eh, two other editors objected to the hook (not just me), so it seems that there is loose consensus at least to move away from this angle or even from an April Fools' angle entirely. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:06, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- I did mention at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Quit Dreaming and Get on the Beam that 5000+ views a day says a broad audience knows who she is and that therefore almost any hook would pass the 'intriguing' part of WP:DYKINT. I'm not going to refuse to suggest a "normal" hook at this point, but given that pop music hooks do poorly at WP:DYKSTATS (I was shocked by how badly Push 2 Start did), I strongly recommend that we go with an April Fool's hook for this (albeit maybe not this one).--Launchballer 01:03, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
It's a good hook that creates plenty of intrigue and should get plenty of hits, indeed, it would probably do better if it wasn't used on April Fool's Day (when a bunch of questionable hooks tend to degrade overall impact) but just used as a standard quirky. Not every hook needs to spell out every aspect of the topic - probably half the hooks posted omit detail to create more interest. Gatoclass (talk) 02:51, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
Gotta agree with Naruto, this is not "interesting". The only thought that I am left with after reading it is "where's the rest of the sentence?" And just because a broad audience knows who someone is does not mean that "almost any hook" would be intriguing. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 13:16, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- Shorter hooks tend to be more effective, and omitting the quote marks would only be allowed on April Fool's Day.
- ALT1: ... that Michelle Pfeiffer has been described as "a breath of fresh air"?
- ALT2: ... that a Michelle Pfeiffer performance typically lasts about 4 minutes and 31 seconds?
- ALT3: ... that Michelle Pfeiffer has been described as "stylish"?
- ALT4: ... that Michelle Pfeiffer has been described as possessing "a cresting emotionality grand enough to fill the tallest IMAX screen"?
- ALT5: ... that Michelle Pfeiffer was inspired by Michelle Pfeiffer?--Launchballer 16:54, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- ALT5 seems interesting.--User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 18:23, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- I can live with ALT5. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:30, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
Reviewer needed. Z1720 (talk) 23:03, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
On hold: I will review it in a few hours. NeoGaze (talk) 20:45, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
1910 Italy v France football match

- ... that Italy national football team defeated 6–2 France in their first official match on 15 May 1910?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nikolay Alyokhin
- Comment:
Will do QPQ later.
Wikipediæ philosophia (talk) 22:25, 7 June 2025 (UTC).
- @Wikipediæ philosophia:
The hook is an interesting fact about this important football match. Approved. Moondragon21 (talk) 06:48, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
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Wikipediæ philosophia, there is uncited material in the article I have tagged which needs citing. The article also needs a copyedit for prose. These are issues I would expect the reviewer to pick up. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:17, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- apologies I reviewed that DYK before the article underwent major changes and was tagged for copyedit. Moondragon21 (talk) 13:52, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Wikipediæ philosophia: Have the above concerns been resolved, and is this ready for a re-review? Z1720 (talk) 15:50, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- apologies I reviewed that DYK before the article underwent major changes and was tagged for copyedit. Moondragon21 (talk) 13:52, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Z1720:,
Fixed (Thanks to User Vaseline, who gave me a hand). Wikipediæ philosophia (talk) 19:31, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Z1720:, frankly, no. Concerning the copy edit, probably it would be more sensible to ping someone who may be interested in. I always strive to write as correctly as possible, but my English isn’t C2 yet, lol. Regarding the lacking sources, I’ll fix asap. Wikipediæ philosophia (talk) 16:00, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Wikipediæ philosophia: The Guild of Copy Editors might be able to help with the copy edit. Z1720 (talk) 16:03, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Z1720:, frankly, no. Concerning the copy edit, probably it would be more sensible to ping someone who may be interested in. I always strive to write as correctly as possible, but my English isn’t C2 yet, lol. Regarding the lacking sources, I’ll fix asap. Wikipediæ philosophia (talk) 16:00, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
Apologies, but is there a better hook than this? I'm not really sure what is supposed to be interesting here: that Italy won 6-2, or that their first opponent was France. If it's the high score (for a soccer match), I can see that point being overlooked by non-soccer fan readers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:02, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
Catastrophically evaporating planet
- ... that some exoplanets are disintegrating away into dust?
- Reviewed:
jlwoodwa (talk) 01:40, 6 June 2025 (UTC).
article is long enough, new enough, and within policy. Hook is short enough and interesting. QPQ is not required. Note to the nominator(s), next time please provide a source for the hook in the nomination. I am using this one, btw. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:59, 6 June 2025 (UTC)
Pulled some days ago, apologies for the delay in relisting this, I thought it would be quickly resolved. Article needs copyedit. Gatoclass (talk) 10:40, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
- What kind of copyedit, Gatoclass? It looks fine to me. Surtsicna (talk) 08:24, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- Well then, perhaps you can explain to me what is meant by "The composition of the tail can be determined by modelling the transits caused by the dust tail. For Kepler-1520b and K2-22b one work found magnesium-iron silicates fitting the transits well.[3]"? Gatoclass (talk) 04:05, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- What kind of copyedit, Gatoclass? It looks fine to me. Surtsicna (talk) 08:24, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 7
[edit]Peace discourse in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict
- ... that the goal of "peace" may mean different things to Israelis and Palestinians?
- Source: Sambaraju & McVittie 2018, p. 116: “There remains the question of what is to be, or indeed can be, done about the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. One useful starting point would be to reconsider the use of talk of peace and violence in this context. If the term ‘peace’ is indeed nothing more than ‘an attractive but empty box’ (Gavriely-Nuri, 2010, p. 566), into which anyone can place and argue for what is to count as peace, then it can achieve little to retain this as the most desirable description of an outcome. Equally, where it becomes bound up with expectations (or lack of expectations) of international actors, then ‘peace’ potentially does little more than add layers of misunderstanding to existing complexities and to obscure what is at issue.”
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sayuti Abubakar and Template:Did you know nominations/Nurtami Soedarsono
Onceinawhile (talk) 19:17, 7 June 2025 (UTC).
- Comment @Onceinawhile, I'm not sure about the hook: it's probably passable, but I think something more specific, such as peace vs. justice or the resulting miscommunications might be better? FortunateSons (talk) 08:13, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
- OK, how about:
- ALT1: …that because the goal of "peace" can mean different things to Israelis and Palestinians, it adds layers of misunderstanding?
- ALT2: …that the common interpretation of peace within Israeli society – security maintained through oppressive military control – has not proven sustainable?
- Onceinawhile (talk) 22:38, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
- I think those are better, with 1 being more factual and 2 being more interesting in my opinion. I’ll leave the full review to someone more experienced and less involved, but feel free to ping me if there is no timely review available. FortunateSons (talk) 19:48, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Onceinawhile ALT2 is more interesting, however I don't see 'security maintained through oppressive military control – has not proven sustainable' or similar explicitly stated in the article. Am I missing something? TarnishedPathtalk 05:39, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
- @TarnishedPath: the first part is in there:
Supporters of Israel, particularly those on the right-wing, primarily advocate for a negative peace or oppressive peace, where peace means security for Israelis with continuing control over, oppression of, or subjugation of Palestinians.
I have just added two more sources, with quotes, to support the sentence. - With respect to the "has not proven sustainable", sadly I don't think a source is needed to prove such a statement as we sit here in June 2025, per WP:SKYBLUE. Onceinawhile (talk) 20:13, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Onceinawhile, it was specifically the "has not proven sustainable" bit that I was having trouble finding in the article. While that might be SKYBLUE to you and me I think someone might pick it up during the review process. TarnishedPathtalk 23:45, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
- @TarnishedPath: thanks for clarifying – I have added a source and a quote. Onceinawhile (talk) 14:34, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Onceinawhile, it was specifically the "has not proven sustainable" bit that I was having trouble finding in the article. While that might be SKYBLUE to you and me I think someone might pick it up during the review process. TarnishedPathtalk 23:45, 21 June 2025 (UTC)
- @TarnishedPath: the first part is in there:
- OK, how about:
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Overall: Article created 7 June and nominated the same day. Earwig comes up as 52.2%, however this is a consequence of usage of quotes in references. Both ALT1 and ALT2 are interesting and supported by sources. I have a preference for ALT2 which I think is more interesting but either of the ALTs are good. QPQ done. Good to go. TarnishedPathtalk 08:57, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
Gatoclass pulled the hook yesterday from the queue with an edit summary of "hook issues, possible article issues". Pinging Onceinawhile and TarnishedPath. SL93 (talk) 23:29, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- If the hook is the primary issue, there are two others which are also interesting which can be used. @Gatoclass: can we get some clarification please? TarnishedPathtalk 23:47, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- The original hook above looks fine.
- With regard to the article, it isn't irredeemable, but using words like "oppressive" in Wikipedia's voice is inappropriate and needs to be properly attributed. Gatoclass (talk) 09:24, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Gatoclass: "oppressive" is directly supported by scholarly sources in this context, as quoted in the article. This is a sensitive topic, so we must find the optimal language - not too strong and not too weak. The word “oppressive” is better than stronger words like apartheid, persecuting, dehumanizing, terrorizing, and better than doublespeak like governing or administering, that obscure the topic at hand. Its usage here is carefully thought through:
- The word is factual: encapsulating the well-known Israeli restrictions on Palestinian movement, goods, basic utilities, speech, assembly, self-determination, residency, trade, and legal rights around matters like home demolitions and administrative detentions.
- The word is carefully contextualized: While the word on its own can raise a question of justice/morality, its use here is clearly and consistently subordinated to the Israeli justification of peace and security. This ensures it is appropriately and neutrally contextualized in both the hook and the article.
- The intention is to communicate the underlying debate on the topic of peace - Israelis primarily want security, Palestinians primarily want fundamental rights, and Israelis primarily aim for security at the expense of those Palestinian rights.
- Onceinawhile (talk) 10:02, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Gatoclass: "oppressive" is directly supported by scholarly sources in this context, as quoted in the article. This is a sensitive topic, so we must find the optimal language - not too strong and not too weak. The word “oppressive” is better than stronger words like apartheid, persecuting, dehumanizing, terrorizing, and better than doublespeak like governing or administering, that obscure the topic at hand. Its usage here is carefully thought through:
- If the hook is the primary issue, there are two others which are also interesting which can be used. @Gatoclass: can we get some clarification please? TarnishedPathtalk 23:47, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
How about:
- ALT3: ... that Israelis frame peace as conditional on security, while Palestinians frame it as conditional on justice? Gatoclass (talk) 10:45, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Gatoclass: thanks. It doesn’t quite work because:
- the nebulous terms “security” and “justice” communicate almost nothing on their own
- The primary point of interest is why those two topics appear mutually exclusive in the Israeli-Palestinian context, since most of the world’s other neighboring adversaries are able to achieve an element of both
- Palestinian future human “rights” are undoubtedly more important than the past historical “justice”
- It needs a word like “commonly” or “often”, as neither are monoliths.
- Two alternatives below:
- ALT4: ... that Palestinians commonly frame peace as conditional on justice, while Israelis commonly frame it as conditional on security without justice?
- ALT5: ... that Palestinians often frame peace as conditional on the re-establishment of their fundamental rights, while Israelis often frame it as conditional on their security at the expense of Palestinian rights?
- Sorry, but both those hooks are violations of WP:DYKBLP in my view, which specifies that hooks must adopt "a neutral point of view." Since we can't seem to agree on a hook, I will take this to WT:DYK for wider input. Gatoclass (talk) 15:02, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Gatoclass: What is your assessment of non-neutrality based on? If it is based on your instinct, you are not assessing it at all. Our neutrality policy says it "…means representing fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without editorial bias, all the significant that have been on a topic." If you are unable to show that other viewpoints exist on this topic, then your gut instinct may well be wrong. Onceinawhile (talk) 22:58, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Okay, firstly, I'm sure there used to be a DYK rule that said something along the lines of hooks relating to politically charged topics should not give the impression of favoring one side over another. There have been a lot of changes to the rules over the last few years and maybe somebody decided that NPOV was sufficient, I don't know. I might look into that when I can find the time.
- Regardless, the hooks above imply that "peace without justice" or "peace at the expense of Palestinian rights" is the official, stated position of the Israeli state. I very much doubt that Israel has ever formally and publicly adopted such a position, because that would be very detrimental to their international image. Now, those positions may well be the effective position of the state, but that's not the same thing. So at the very least, the hooks would have to be modified to say something along the lines of " ... that reliable sources broadly agree that the effective position of the Israeli state is such-and-such", but then you are getting not only a very clunky hook, but also raising the problem of trying to demonstrate a rubbery opinion about what reliable sources broadly agree upon. To put it another way, facts on DYK have to be incontrovertible, not merely based on somebody's opinion of what reliable sources broadly have to say, because that is a can of worms that a project like DYK does not have the resources to verify. Gatoclass (talk) 00:11, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Gatoclass: What is your assessment of non-neutrality based on? If it is based on your instinct, you are not assessing it at all. Our neutrality policy says it "…means representing fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without editorial bias, all the significant that have been on a topic." If you are unable to show that other viewpoints exist on this topic, then your gut instinct may well be wrong. Onceinawhile (talk) 22:58, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry, but both those hooks are violations of WP:DYKBLP in my view, which specifies that hooks must adopt "a neutral point of view." Since we can't seem to agree on a hook, I will take this to WT:DYK for wider input. Gatoclass (talk) 15:02, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Is ALT1 from above not acceptable? Its wording could be tightened up but it seems unobjectionable. ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 15:22, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- +1, the only hook that looks somewhat salvageable. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:40, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not terribly keen on ALT1, but it does pass the neutrality test. Gatoclass (talk) 15:44, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- I have no objection to ALT1.
- But, for the record, the implications of Gatoclass and Airship’s comments regarding ALT2, ALT4 and ALT5 so far appear to be based on incorrect pre-conceptions. Even if we move ahead with ALT1, Gatoclass and Airship will benefit from a deep read of the sources, as these statements are wholly factual, even if they may be uncomfortable. Onceinawhile (talk) 23:07, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- For the record, it seems that Onceinawhile's comment appears to be based on the incorrect preconception that being "wholly factual" is the only criterion DYK must take into account. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 07:53, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not terribly keen on ALT1, but it does pass the neutrality test. Gatoclass (talk) 15:44, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- It seems like ALT1 is agreeable to all parties and I stated above when I did my initial review that it was interesting and sourced by sources. @Darth Stabro, AirshipJungleman29 and Gatoclass are there any other issues, or can we move on? If we can move on, would someone be willing to give this nomination a tick? TarnishedPathtalk 07:48, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- Quite frankly, I think ALT1 sucks and I'd prefer not to see it run, so I am still hoping to persuade the nominator to accept ALT3, but he seems to have disappeared ATM. If he won't accept it though, I guess it will have to be ALT1. Gatoclass (talk) 09:12, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1 at least makes people think. ALT3 is unacceptable because it implies "security" as defensive (usual for most societies), whereas the Israeli approach to security is offensive and requires the permanent oppression of another people. A similar case can be made for Palestinians and the word "justice", where their need for fundamental rights is clear but their approach to historical redress can be outside of the achievable window (see South Africa – with peace they got their rights but still lots of historical injustice unaddressed). The difference being that the potential for a wide interpretation of "justice" is obvious to most people.
- It can be argued that the inability to understand what "security" means to Israelis is the primary reason that the conflict is so divisive today. Onceinawhile (talk) 09:24, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) In any case, having just tried to verify ALT1, it turns out that it misstates the source (which itself is remarkably badly written and obscure). So I think it's a strike.
- Having said that, on reflection I can't see much wrong with ALT0, it's short, to the point, and I think sufficiently interesting, so I would consider that a viable alternative. Gatoclass (talk) 09:37, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- I am fine with ALT0. I don’t see how ALT1 misstates the source – it literally quotes from it (see "layers of misunderstanding" in the quotation at the top of this thread).Onceinawhile (talk) 09:40, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Well for one thing, the source says it "potentially" adds layers of misunderstanding, so the hook is inaccurate on that count. More importantly though, it isn't at all clear from the context that the writers are talking of layers of misunderstanding between Israelis and Palestinians specifically - they might mean it potentially adds layers of misunderstanding for the "international actors" it references. Additionally, it doesn't actually say the different concepts of peace are those advanced by either Israelis or Palestinians, it just talks about the concept of peace being like a box that "anyone" can fill as they please. So for my money the hook is an accuracy fail in multiple ways.
- With regard to your comment above about ALT3 implying "security as defensive" and therefore somehow justified, that is a misreading of the hook, because it does not say the Israelis consider peace to be conditional on security, it says they frame it as conditional on security, which is a different thing altogether.
- Regardless, since you still don't appear ready to accept ALT3, as I said I too am willing to accept ALT0. Gatoclass (talk) 10:07, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- I personally think you're being a tad bit semantic on ALT1, but if ALT0 is what we can agree on lets do it. There's no need to further debate the issue. TarnishedPathtalk 12:02, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- +1 to hook ALT0.VR (Please ping on reply) 13:19, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- I am fine with ALT0. I don’t see how ALT1 misstates the source – it literally quotes from it (see "layers of misunderstanding" in the quotation at the top of this thread).Onceinawhile (talk) 09:40, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Quite frankly, I think ALT1 sucks and I'd prefer not to see it run, so I am still hoping to persuade the nominator to accept ALT3, but he seems to have disappeared ATM. If he won't accept it though, I guess it will have to be ALT1. Gatoclass (talk) 09:12, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
Selim Al Deen Muktamanch
- ... that Selim Al Deen Muktamanch (pictured) is the first structure built in Indian Sub-continent in the architectural style of the Theatre of ancient Greece? Source: Source 1
- ALT1: ... that ... that Selim Al Deen Muktamanch (pictured) is the first structure built in Bangladesh in the architectural style of the Theatre of ancient Greece? Source: Source 2 Translated in En
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Drag in France
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Elogio del Horizonte
~ Φαϊσάλ (talk) 21:05, 7 June 2025 (UTC).
- @FaysaLBinDaruL: Per WP:DYKHOOK, given that both of your hook proposals are making a "first" claim, either the sourcing has to be exceptional, or the idea has to be dropped and a different angle needs to be proposed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:24, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: There is no doubt about the alternative hook that this is the first of its kind in Bangladesh. Can you please elaborate about exceptional source? Provided sources claim the hook's info properly. ~ Φαϊσάλ (talk) 12:06, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: If the exceptional sources are not exceptional, I propose a merging with Template:Did you know nominations/Sraboner Meghgulo Joro Holo Akashe by the following hook to cover both articles. The info is in both articles as well:
ALT 3: ... that rain unexpectedly began to fall moments after the monsoon song began at same place, twice? Source: Source 1; Source 2
~ Φαϊσάλ (talk) 12:35, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- The hook may need to be revised as it is hard to understand. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:42, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: "the song gained a legendary reputation after two remarkable performances at Jahangirnagar University’s Muktamanch, rain unexpectedly began to fall moments after song started. In 1991, just moments after the song began, rain unexpectedly began to fall. The phenomenon repeated itself in 1992 at the same venue during another performance of the song—further cementing its mythical connection to the monsoon." - This is the attractive/amazing info linked to the song and place. To keep the hook's length within 200 prose characters, and make it more interesting the hook is abbreviated as the ALT 3 one.
- This is a common practice for DYK. For example, you may check Scenes in the Square. There is a Mr. Bean statue. Its is mentioned in article as well. For DYK the nominator make it more interestingly proposed the hooks as ".. that you can sit next to Mr. Bean (pictured) in Leicester Square?" without mentioning the name of article. Also many times two article is represented in one hook. ~ Φαϊσάλ (talk) 15:50, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
Full review needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:50, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- I take.--Launchballer 15:49, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Actually, I just realised this is a double nom, and I'll use this when I have an idea for a double hook, so this can wait until I've completed a single.--Launchballer 15:51, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- @FaysaLBinDaruL: GPTZero says Muktamanch is AI-generated and Sraboner is AI-polished, care to explain yourself?--Launchballer 08:48, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Thanks for your concern. Muktamanch is not generated, rather translated using AI comparison between Being Translator and Google Translate from BN to EN. Both of these translator is not always give "close and accurate meaning". It was tiresome for me to translate and compare and determine the best translation. I did write some of my EN articles by selecting best translation before AI arrived. Translator websites often cannot provide the right punctuation. I took help from AI for correct punctuation, according to EN grammar.
- @FaysaLBinDaruL: GPTZero says Muktamanch is AI-generated and Sraboner is AI-polished, care to explain yourself?--Launchballer 08:48, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Actually, I just realised this is a double nom, and I'll use this when I have an idea for a double hook, so this can wait until I've completed a single.--Launchballer 15:51, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- I take.--Launchballer 15:49, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- As for "Sraboner..." the heading was sounds like "simple English", I tried to put more rich and accurate wording, but the translation from original BN article is not deviated. for "Production" paragraph, I followed songs related good article style. Hook's info are not polished, rather written using best vocabulary. ~ Φαϊσάλ (talk) 23:05, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- PS: None of the original BN wiki articles are AI generated, you may check using GPTZero, for in depth review. ~ Φαϊσάλ (talk) 23:07, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 10
[edit]Sraboner Meghgulo Joro Holo Akashe
- ... that rain unexpectedly began to fall moments after the monsoon song began at same place, twice? Source: Source 1; Source 2
~ Φαϊσάλ (talk) 14:17, 17 June 2025 (UTC).
I am marking this for closure as the nomination you linked was not actually reviewed by you. A valid QPQ needs to be a review that you made yourself and not just any nomination. Please read the instructions at WP:QPQ on how to do a QPQ. As DYK rules require a valid QPQ at the time of the nomination, and one was not provided, the nomination cannot proceed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:28, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: a fresh QPQ has done. Please check. You may now restart the review please. ~ Φαϊσάλ (talk) 12:17, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
Full review needed by new reviewed. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 14:53, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Will take; my review will be at Selim Al Deen Muktamanch.--Launchballer 15:53, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
Starlight (Taylor Swift song)
- ... that Taylor Swift wrote and dedicated a song to Ethel Kennedy?
- Source: Wall Street Journal
Ippantekina (talk) 04:56, 10 June 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: @Ippantekina: Article is new enough (moved to mainspace on 6/4), long enough, and a QPQ has been done. My only concern is the hook - the article doesn't mention the song being "dedicated" to Ethel Kennedy, only that it was inspired by her romance with RFK. Does the WSJ source say that it was dedicated to her? The article is behind a paywall and I can't access it. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 13:59, 10 June 2025 (UTC)
- @CanonNi: hey there, thanks for the review. I've added sources that corroborate the hook in the article. Ippantekina (talk) 07:31, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
- There we go. Alright, with the information added to the article, this DYK is
good to go. Great work! '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 08:13, 11 June 2025 (UTC)
Given unresolved concerns about the promoted hook, I've returned this to Prep for further workshopping. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:21, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- There we go. Alright, with the information added to the article, this DYK is
- ALT1 ... Taylor Swift used the song "Starlight" in a commercial for her fragrance in 2013? TarnishedPathtalk 01:07, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe it would be better to use the word "song" in the hook? The hook seems borderline interesting to me, so asking Launchballer if they could propose something else. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:11, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- So I guess the Ethel Kennedy hook failed? Ippantekina (talk) 04:23, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- There were more editors supporting running the hook than opposing, but not overwhelming enough to meet consensus, so it was probably safer to just pull for workshopping than to keep it in Prep indefinitely. This does not mean that the Kennedy hook can't run (the opposition wasn't against the Kennedy angle entirely), but it would probably require rewriting to address the concerns raised. Are you open to a non-Ethel Kennedy hook then? I have a feeling that just because it's a Taylor Swift hook does not mean it automatically meets DYKINT: Tay-Tay hooks (and really music hooks in general) have underperformed in the past. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:14, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Ippantekina: Thoughts on ALT1 above? Any other hooks that you would like to propose? The more hooks that are proposed, the more likely it is that at least one will be approved. Z1720 (talk) 23:21, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- The Ethel Kennedy hook is the most interesting one and is cited. If this is not approved, I have no alternatives. If this is a dead-end, I would like to withdraw this nom. Ippantekina (talk) 08:49, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- Apologies for intruding on this discussion. I can understand the concern about the Ethel Kennedy hook. I think that the "Ethel Kennedy fanfiction" could make the original hook more interesting. So something along the lines of: ... Taylor Swift wrote a song that a critic considered a "piece of Ethel Kennedy fanfiction"? It is just a suggestion of course, and apologies again for jumping into this discussion at random. Again, I just think the "fanfiction" angle may be something to pull some attention (and to be frank, some topics will just not interest some people and that is okay). Aoba47 (talk) 00:19, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- The Ethel Kennedy hook is the most interesting one and is cited. If this is not approved, I have no alternatives. If this is a dead-end, I would like to withdraw this nom. Ippantekina (talk) 08:49, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Ippantekina: Thoughts on ALT1 above? Any other hooks that you would like to propose? The more hooks that are proposed, the more likely it is that at least one will be approved. Z1720 (talk) 23:21, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- There were more editors supporting running the hook than opposing, but not overwhelming enough to meet consensus, so it was probably safer to just pull for workshopping than to keep it in Prep indefinitely. This does not mean that the Kennedy hook can't run (the opposition wasn't against the Kennedy angle entirely), but it would probably require rewriting to address the concerns raised. Are you open to a non-Ethel Kennedy hook then? I have a feeling that just because it's a Taylor Swift hook does not mean it automatically meets DYKINT: Tay-Tay hooks (and really music hooks in general) have underperformed in the past. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:14, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- So I guess the Ethel Kennedy hook failed? Ippantekina (talk) 04:23, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- Maybe it would be better to use the word "song" in the hook? The hook seems borderline interesting to me, so asking Launchballer if they could propose something else. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:11, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 11
[edit]Undefeated (band)
- ... that when Lis Dunckel replaced the previous bassist for Undefeated, she didn't know how to play bass?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Trichy assault rifle
- Comment: Part of WikiProject Women in Red
3family6 (Talk to me|See what I have done) 12:46, 13 June 2025 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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- Freely licensed:
- All images used in the article have lacked permission for more than a week. They should be removed unless permission is received.
- Used in article:
- Clear at 100px:
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Interesting hook. Well-cited article, although I would personally mark out the primary sources using {{Primary sources references section}}. ―Howard • 🌽33 13:48, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- @3family6: Forgot to ping. ―Howard • 🌽33 11:47, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you. Regarding the images, the band told me ,(via email) that they've sent in the forms, it's the Wikimedia volunteer side that hasn't responded. I'm not sure what the approach is in such situations.--3family6 (Talk to me|See what I have done) 11:53, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- I suggest consulting c:Commons:Volunteer Response Team/Noticeboard ―Howard • 🌽33 12:16, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll leave a message there.--3family6 (Talk to me|See what I have done) 20:37, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- It's currently in process. I reached out to the band again and Meredith is attempting to re-send the information.--3family6 (Talk to me|See what I have done) 23:28, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll leave a message there.--3family6 (Talk to me|See what I have done) 20:37, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- I suggest consulting c:Commons:Volunteer Response Team/Noticeboard ―Howard • 🌽33 12:16, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you. Regarding the images, the band told me ,(via email) that they've sent in the forms, it's the Wikimedia volunteer side that hasn't responded. I'm not sure what the approach is in such situations.--3family6 (Talk to me|See what I have done) 11:53, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Howardcorn33 The file was deleted as the ticket from the band was not satisfactory. I wanted to ahead with your recommendation of including {{Primary sources references section}} but I don't know how to technically use it. The infobox image is still in process, that seems to be the only unresolved issue.--3family6 (Talk to me|See what I have done) 20:18, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
Diagon Alley
- ...
that following the release of Universal Studios Florida's Diagon Alley, The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon was temporarily moved to Universal Studios Florida alongside Pitbull and Jennifer Lopez?
- Source: [1]
ALT1: ... that the Hogwarts Express in The Wizarding World of Harry Potter takes people between Diagon Alley and Hogsmeade?Source: [2]ALT2: ... that Gandy Street in Exeter, The Shambles in York, and Victoria Street in Edinburgh were all originally thought to be the inspiration for Diagon Alley?Source: [3]- Reviewed:
Mikeycdiamond (talk) 04:26, 13 June 2025 (UTC).
- General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Other problems:
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
- Other problems:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- Interesting:
- Other problems:
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: ALT1 doesn't seem to be the most appropriate for this article, as it implies the Hogwarts Express article is the main subject, and Diagon Alley is merely a footnote. I think a hook that's much more relevant to the article can be found. ALT0, the source doesn't mention a temporary move, and also doesn't specify a correlation between Diagon Alley and Fallon. Unfortunately, ALT2 also fails due to WP:FORBESCON; Forbes contributor articles are considered unreliable. Here are some alt hooks:
- ALT3: ...that Diagon Alley has been turned into a Christmas display and a pop-up airport attraction? https://www.todayonline.com/8days/seeanddo/thingstodo/muggle-money-cant-get-you-harry-potters-diagon-alley-changi-airports , https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/diagon-alley-atx-magic-continues-as-37th-street-lights-to-host-beloved-holiday-display
ALT4: ...that the real-world Diagon Alley in Universal Studios Florida was built on the former site of a Jaws attraction? https://www.nbcnews.com/business/travel/hogwarts-express-gets-ready-roll-universal-studios-florida-n14686
@Mikeycdiamond: let me know which one you like better! jolielover♥talk 13:29, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
@Jolielover: While the following quote implies he moved the show: "Jimmy Fallon took a road trip to Orlando, bringing 'The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon' and guest stars like Pitbull and Jennifer Lopez to the Sunshine State. Fallon continues to tape episodes from Universal this week.", I can understand how it could be seen as a stretch/OR to connect the two events. I think alt4 is the most interesting, thanks! P.S, if this is formatted wrong, sorry, I am not used to using wikimarkup for comments. Mikeycdiamond (talk) 22:53, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks, approving ALT4 jolielover♥talk 05:32, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
Jolielover no-one is allowed to review their own hooks. New reviewer required. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:31, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
References
- ^ Sangalang, Jennifer. "Lumos! Universal lights up Diagon Alley". Florida Today. Archived from the original on December 5, 2022. Retrieved 2025-06-10.
- ^ Sekula, Sarah (2014-06-20). "Sneak peek: Harry Potter's Diagon Alley". CNN. Retrieved 2025-06-10.
- ^ Pocock, Emma. "J.K. Rowling Debunks 'Harry Potter' Inspiration Claims". Forbes. Retrieved 2025-06-07.
Perdiccas
- ... that Perdiccas, regent of Alexander the Great's empire after Alexander's death, was proposed as king to great support but hesitated to accept the role?
- Source: Anson, Edward M. (2014). p. 15. Alexander's Heirs: The Age of the Successors. John Wiley & Sons. ISBN 9781444339628.
- Reviewed:
Harren the Red (talk) 02:01, 15 June 2025 (UTC).
article recently promoted to Good Article. NO QPQ needed. Hook is interesting and cited inline. Citation verified using Google Books preview. No copyvio detected. Image is properly licensed and works at small size. Nihil obstat. ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 15:31, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
- Harren the Red, it seems that more interesting hooks could perhaps be proposed. I find the line about Perdiccas taunting assassins into running away quite funny, for example. Great article! ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:03, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- AirshipJungleman29, thank you for the feedback! I guess I chose the king moment because I think it's interesting for a lay reader. "This guy could have succeeded Alexander... but didn't? Why?" But you're right, the assassin moment is quite funny. If a few other people also think it's a better DYK than the king one, I am very willing to rewrite this. Thanks again! Harren the Red (talk) 08:41, 27 June 2025
- Harren the Red, it seems that more interesting hooks could perhaps be proposed. I find the line about Perdiccas taunting assassins into running away quite funny, for example. Great article! ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:03, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- Suggested ALT1: ... that when Perdiccas, the successor of Alexander the Great, encountered assassins sent to kill him, he taunted and terrified them into running away?
Review needed for that hook. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:36, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 12
[edit]Murder of Luigia Borrelli
- ... that the murder of Luigia Borrelli is known as the "drill crime"?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Space Invaders (Atari 2600 video game)
- Comment: High profile case in Italy
Moondragon21 (talk) 05:50, 12 June 2025 (UTC).
Dull hook. A lot of murder investigations have been reopened after long periods of time (see Murder of Sherri Rasmussen, for instance). Daniel Case (talk) 04:28, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
- Daniel Case How about..... that the murder of Luigia Borrelli is known as the "drill crime"? Moondragon21 (talk) 09:31, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
- Better. Just provide a source when you make it ALT1. Daniel Case (talk) 02:18, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: Done. Moondragon21 (talk) 05:22, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
- I meant here in the nomination, actually, but I checked it in the article and it's fine. I'd put it in the lede where you first mention it. Daniel Case (talk) 04:31, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: Now it's in the lede. Is everything alright now? Moondragon21 (talk) 02:59, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- I meant in the article lede, right after that term in Italian is mentioned. Daniel Case (talk) 02:03, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: I think it is already. Moondragon21 (talk) 03:40, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- No, it's not. First sentence: "The murder of Luigia Borrelli, known in Italy as delitto del trapano" Right after that is where it should go. Daniel Case (talk) 03:52, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: I am confused. What should the sentence be word-for-word? Moondragon21 (talk) 08:17, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- No, it's not. First sentence: "The murder of Luigia Borrelli, known in Italy as delitto del trapano" Right after that is where it should go. Daniel Case (talk) 03:52, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: I think it is already. Moondragon21 (talk) 03:40, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- I meant in the article lede, right after that term in Italian is mentioned. Daniel Case (talk) 02:03, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: Now it's in the lede. Is everything alright now? Moondragon21 (talk) 02:59, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- I meant here in the nomination, actually, but I checked it in the article and it's fine. I'd put it in the lede where you first mention it. Daniel Case (talk) 04:31, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: Done. Moondragon21 (talk) 05:22, 13 June 2025 (UTC)
- Better. Just provide a source when you make it ALT1. Daniel Case (talk) 02:18, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
I took care of it. Daniel Case (talk) 18:11, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Daniel Case: thanks. How is the DYK looking now? Moondragon21 (talk) 17:12, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
Better in this department, but given the degree to which I have been involved already I think it better if someone else does the full review Daniel Case (talk) 18:16, 17 June 2025 (UTC)
- No problem. Thanks for the advice on the hook. Moondragon21 (talk) 11:10, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- Moondragon21 your provided QPQ Template:Did you know nominations/1910 Italy v France football match is a tick-box review which did not pick up on easily-identifiable issues, and is therefore not a "full review" per WP:QPQ. I request that you review another nomination, and do so properly this time. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:19, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- apologies I reviewed that DYK before the article underwent major changes and was tagged for copyedit. AirshipJungleman29 a new QPQ is now provided. Moondragon21 (talk) 15:22, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- I take.--Launchballer 15:58, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
@Moondragon21: Lots to whinge about here I'm afraid; the first two paragraphs of the body are unsourced, I'm uncomfortable with mentioning the murder weapon in the hook per WP:DYKGRAT, numerous sections deserve {{clump}} and these want resolving, and this badly needs a copyedit. As the replacement QPQ is also tickboxy I intend on promoting that hook before I approve this one. That said, however, this is long enough and new enough and Earwig checks out. Ping me when the above is addressed and we'll talk hooks.--Launchballer 16:23, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Thanks for the advice I have tried to solve those issues. How is it looking now? Moondragon21 (talk) 19:37, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- apologies I reviewed that DYK before the article underwent major changes and was tagged for copyedit. AirshipJungleman29 a new QPQ is now provided. Moondragon21 (talk) 15:22, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 15
[edit]Rini Widyantini
- ... that Indonesia's current state apparatus minister, Rini Widyantini, once took care of one of her predecessors' child? Source: "In September 1970, our first child was born, and we named him Rezal Ashari... When the two of us returned to campus, we left Rezal in the charge of the Nadisah family, who very kindly agreed to babysit him. Pak Nadisah’s youngest daughter, Rini Widyantini, was the most involved in taking care of Rezal." Kusumaatmadja, Sarwono (2020). Steering a middle course: from activist to Secretary General of Golkar. ISEAS-Yusof Ishak Institute. Singapore: ISEAS. pp. 100. ISBN 978-981-4881-65-4.
Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 03:40, 17 June 2025 (UTC).
Hey, Jeromi Mikhael. The article is more than long enough and counts as new. The 2020 book by Kusumaatmadja does not, as far as I can see, mention Widyantini on the cited pages 118–120. It mentions her only on page 100, and there it does not say anything about her date of birth or place of birth. Could you please double check and ensure that everything in the article is sourced and that the cited sources cover the information they are supposed to cover? I also wonder whether a more interesting hook could be produced from the article. One might even wonder whether focusing on a woman minister acting as a nanny for her male predecessor is a sensitive choice of hook. Surtsicna (talk) 08:35, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Jeromi Mikhael: Please respond to the above. Z1720 (talk) 23:24, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Z1720: Hi, really sorry for the late response, I've amended the citation for the phrase and included a relevant citation for the date and place of birth. I'm not so sure if that's offensive, since Rini was acting as a host for her predecessor and that she did it out of kindness? If you think that's offensive I could offer this alternative: ALT 1: "... that Indonesia's current state apparatus minister, Rini Widyantini, was appointed as spokesperson in a coffee morning event?", which could be sourced to citation no. 13 in the article. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 09:07, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- It is not particularly offensive to me, Jeromi Mikhael, but I can imagine that someone might wonder why we are focusing on that rather than on her accomplishments. As for ALT1, we again seem to be faced with the verifiability problem: I see no mention of a coffee morning event in the (automatically translated) cited source. Surtsicna (talk) 23:43, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
Urien
- ... that eight poems to the sixth-century Brittonic king Urien Rheged may be among the oldest vernacular European literature?
- Source: Williams, Ifor (1968). The Poems of Taliesin. Translated by Williams, J. E. Caerwyn. Dublin: Institute for Advanced Studies. pp. xxvi–xxviii.
- ALT1: ... that eight poems to the sixth-century Brittonic king Urien Rheged may be some of the oldest European literature not in Latin or Greek? Source: Williams, Ifor (1968). The Poems of Taliesin. Translated by Williams, J. E. Caerwyn. Dublin: Institute for Advanced Studies. pp. xxvi–xxviii.
- Reviewed:
Tipcake (talk) 16:33, 15 June 2025 (UTC).
- Article was promoted to GA status on June 15, satisfying the criteria of being new enough, reliably sourced, and presentable. Article is quite nice. Also long enough. Hooks are interesting, short enough, and properly sourced. I like both ALT0 and ALT1 about equally here, would probably go with ALT0. QPQ not applicable here. Very good job here on getting it to GA status. Should be good to go for the DYK section. Soulbust (talk) 07:44, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
Applying a tick so this can move in the process and fixing some syntax. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 22:39, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
@Tipcake, Soulbust, Sammi Brie, JuniperChill, and AirshipJungleman29: as you know, the hook was pulled by @Nyttend: at 01:31 here with the summary
As far as I can tell, the article doesn't have anything about the linguistic distinctiveness of its language, and anyway, there are plenty of older texts, e.g. the Homeric corpus and much of the New Testament are in vernacular Greek
. I have reopened the nomination per discussion at DYK talk. Tipcake, please can you make sure the hooks follow WP:DYKHOOK, particularlyHooks should be definite facts that are verified by citations in the article
. A quote from the source would be useful if it is not available online. Then hopefully Soulbust or Sammi Brie can re approve. TSventon (talk) 17:39, 18 July 2025 (UTC)- Thanks. I'm not the reviewer — I was mostly applying a tick as a courtesy, because the original reviewer had not and it would not have gone to DYKNA otherwise. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 18:02, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Sammi Brie, when you apply a tick, you are giving your imprimatur that the nomination meets the criteria, and in this case it didn't. If you haven't reviewed a nomination yourself, then please don't give it your approval. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:37, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- I should have pinged Soulbust to apply the tick. My apologies, BlueMoonset. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 22:43, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Sammi Brie, when you apply a tick, you are giving your imprimatur that the nomination meets the criteria, and in this case it didn't. If you haven't reviewed a nomination yourself, then please don't give it your approval. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:37, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'm not the reviewer — I was mostly applying a tick as a courtesy, because the original reviewer had not and it would not have gone to DYKNA otherwise. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 18:02, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 16
[edit]2025 Chennai Super Kings season
... that Chennai Super Kings finished in last place of the Indian Premier League for the first time in the 2025 season?Source: https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/ipl/chennai-super-kings-finish-bottom-points-table-records-gujarat-10028186/- Reviewed:
- Comment: This is an interesting fact as Chennai Super Kings are the joint-most successful team with 5 title wins.
Vestrian24Bio 16:05, 17 June 2025 (UTC).
- This is a comment and not a review: I have mixed feelings about this hook. On the one hand, the hook is borderline specialist since it requires knowledge that the Super Kings are usually good. On the other hand, the IPL is a huge deal in India, a country of over 1 billion people. This is a weird case in that I'm not actually sure if the hook as currently written is interesting to a broad audience, as whether or not it does depends on how you define "broad". On the one hand, cricket is really only popular in a relatively small number of countries, so outside of those countries the hook may not be as interesting. On the other hand, three of the countries where cricket is big (India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh) are very populous, so in theory the number of people this hook attracts is very large. It's a question of how wide the hook's interest is versus how deep. I don't swing either way (although I'd be leaning more towards it being interesting), so it would be good to ask for a second opinion here, ideally from a non-cricket fan. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:01, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
- Some extra hooks, which are hopefully more interesting (link placement may need some adjusting):
ALT1 ... that the 2025 Chennai Super Kings season was their worst ever Indian Premier League result?ALT2 ... that the Chennai Super Kings were the first team eliminated from the 2025 Indian Premier League?- ALT3 ... that the most successful team in the Indian Premier League finished last in 2025?
- The last one requires a source from the team's main article as well. It cites [1], which should do. Toadspike [Talk] 12:00, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
- I think ALT3 would be the best option here, although of course the article would need adjustment. @Vestrian24Bio: Thoughts on the above proposals? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:49, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5 and Toadspike: I support ALT3 as well and also made the necessary changes to the article now. Vestrian24Bio 13:42, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
- I think ALT3 would be the best option here, although of course the article would need adjustment. @Vestrian24Bio: Thoughts on the above proposals? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:49, 20 June 2025 (UTC)
Full review needed now that new hooks have been proposed. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:37, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 17
[edit]Apolonia Dorregaray Veli
- ... that Apolonia Dorregaray Veli specialised in a Peruvian art form that dates back over 4,000 years?
- Reviewed: Edwardsville Amazon warehouse collapse
- Comment:
MumphingSquirrel (talk) 13:28, 27 June 2025 (UTC).
I am afraid I have some problems with the sources, MumphingSquirrel. References #1 and #4 are blogs. References #2, #5, #9, #10, #11 and #12 are offline sources the existence of which I cannot verify online. #6 looks splendid–but does not mention the subject of the article. #7 is again a blog but the article published there is purported to have been first published by the Instituto Nacional de Cultura of the Museo Nacional de la Cultura Peruana, and I was able to find a reference to this article on a credible website. Reference #8 is the aforementioned credible website. Reference #9 is another credible website that mentions the subject. The source cited for the hook does not, as far as I can tell, verify the hook; I do not see the age of the art form mentioned anywhere, and the source is cited in the article is another source, the aforementioned #5. Is it possible to swap the blogs for more reliable sources? And is it possible to cite an accessible source that verifies the hook? Surtsicna (talk) 17:43, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
Hi Surtsicna, thanks for the feedback. I'm unexpectedly away from home with a family thing of unspecified timescale, so will struggle to look at this properly for at least a week or so. Will pick it up when I'm back home. MumphingSquirrel (talk) 21:18, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- @MumphingSquirrel: Just following up. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:59, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 18
[edit]Arthur Newnham
- ... that Arthur Newnham was born in India, played first-class cricket in England, and served as a military attaché in Moscow?
- Source: Birth: CricInfo is the easiest to use as it also sources his cricket – https://www.espncricinfo.com/cricketers/arthur-newnham-18055
CricketArchive is an alternative, but is paywalled Cricket: as above, or his Wisden obituary also verifies – https://www.espncricinfo.com/wisdenalmanack/content/story/229835.html Moscow: Victoria Cross Online – https://victoriacrossonline.co.uk/lanceray-arthur-newnham-gc-mc-direct-recipient/
Transcriptions of Indian newspapers also suggest this, but don't flat out say it- Reviewed:
- Comment: Think this is OK. If the sourcing for serving as a military attache is not OK, we have two Indian newspapers which say he was with the Bombay Staff Corps in Moscow when he was married so an alternative ending along the lines of ...and was married in Moscow might be possible
Blue Square Thing (talk) 05:44, 22 June 2025 (UTC).
- Blue Square Thing, I am rather concerned that I get nothing about this man when I search for him on Google Books. See the results for "Arthur Newnham" "cricket" and "Arthur Newnham" "moscow". It leads me to wonder whether the subject is notable. Are our only sources marriage registers and obituaries? Surtsicna (talk) 10:32, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- There are 14 sources in the article, with the clear indication there are more in printed media that hasn't been digitised. My experience with articles such as this suggests notability is OK with this, but, to be honest, I only submitted this because it was the last article in a list that was being set up to be sent to draft space. I'm perfectly find with it failing DYK if you don't feel that having a book reference makes it dubious. You'd probably need to look in Indian sources fwiw – that's where he seems to have spent most of his working life. After retirement I'm 99% certain he was living in the south of France, but, presumably, returned to the UK at some point, perhaps in 1939. Anyway, I'd sort of forgotten about this, so whatever Blue Square Thing (talk) 19:07, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- A lack of Google Books coverage doesn't equate to non-notability: probably most subjects I write about for DYK aren't written about much in books. If you think the article is non-notable then take it to AFD and place the nomination on hold (though I'll say that the subject looks notable to me); otherwise I don't see anything that should stop this nom. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:56, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- I asked whether there were sources beyond the obituaries and marriage registers, BeanieFan11. Do they seem sufficient to you to establish notability? Surtsicna (talk) 08:06, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Blue Square Thing: Are you able to add additional sources? @Surtsicna: If you still think this article is not notable per WP:GNG, can you please bring the article to WP:AfD? Z1720 (talk) 23:27, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- I doubt very much I'd be able to access the sources that people would be looking for. At AfD this is no worse than a redirect to one of the lists that he appears on, but I think there's a very, very strong NEXIST argument that can be made here. There are clearly multiple references to him and his family in Indian newspapers – Allen's Indian Mail, Times of India etc... (I can see, for example, that The Pioneer named him as one of the principal cricketers in India in 1889, but there's no chance whatsoever that I'll be able to find articles from that source digitised not behind a paywall, and the searching looks like it would take a while – I have more than 2000 hits on Newnham with a time restriction of 1880 to 1910 in various Indian papers at Granth Sanjeevani) The only ones that are accessible are those that have been digitised by volunteers. I suspect there will also be references to him in Moscow media which is totally inaccessible to me. And probably from the south of France. I imagine that a full trawl through the Times and other such sources will find refs as well – he's certainly mentioned quite frequently in Cricket (the search function is OK, but not perfect obviously). It wouldn't surprise me to find more detailed references in Malvern archives as well, which are largely not digitised. Ultimately what Wisden says is really quite strong – it doesn't say these sorts of things about most people who got obits. And he played for the Gents v Players – this is pretty notable by itself. Put everything together and you've got WP:BASIC I think – the first bullet.
- This doesn't need to go to DYK from my pov. Honestly, I think it's better sourced than at least one of the articles at DYK right now, but I think I've given up trying to work out any of this sort of stuff :-)
- I could trawl all the sources but I'll be away for most of the next six weeks. There will be times I can check back here, but I doubt very much I'll have more than a block of two or three days to focus on any articles. There's no way I'll have time to do the leg work to find the sources, if they've actually been digitised. But, and I don't invoke NEXIST frequently, I have no doubt whatsoever that they're there Blue Square Thing (talk) 08:49, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- I haven't looked into it much, but I would say the Wisden obituary is SIGCOV, and Blue Square Thing is someone I trust regarding the notability of cricketers (i.e. if he says a cricketer is notable, I would think he's probably right). BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:08, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Blue Square Thing: Are you able to add additional sources? @Surtsicna: If you still think this article is not notable per WP:GNG, can you please bring the article to WP:AfD? Z1720 (talk) 23:27, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- I asked whether there were sources beyond the obituaries and marriage registers, BeanieFan11. Do they seem sufficient to you to establish notability? Surtsicna (talk) 08:06, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
Death (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
- ... that the character of Death had already been cast for the Marvel Cinematic Universe when a culture website suggested she would never make an appearance?
ALT1: ... that Death in the Marvel Cinematic Universe has created Infinity Stones and flowers?- ALT2: ... that Death was described as a witch on a motorcycle?
ALT3: ... that Death can speak Spanish?- ALT4: ... that Aubrey Plaza spent months learning to play the drums before playing Death?
- ALT5: ... that the design of Death in the Marvel Cinematic Universe was inspired by Christian religious imagery?
- ALT6: ... that the cloak worn by Death in the Marvel Cinematic Universe was made by adapting the sewing pattern of a Paul Poiret coat (example pictured)?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/All India Institute of Medical Sciences, Kalyani
- Comment: Two hooks about the creation of the character - can probably come up with more 'serious' ones - and some more quirky hooks. Use whatever's needed in a set, and feel free to suggest more. (QPQ may appear used: there were three articles reviewed at that nom and this should be 3/3.) If we're still doing special occasion hooks, the show's one year anniversary would be September 18.
Kingsif (talk) 03:56, 18 June 2025 (UTC).
- Not a full review, but ALT1,
ALT2, and ALT3 probably don't work with DYKFICTION. BuySomeApples (talk) 03:21, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Why alt2? The character being externally described, not a line from the show. Kingsif (talk) 09:46, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- Oh I missed that, sorry! BuySomeApples (talk) 21:54, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
- @BuySomeApples: Having crossed off alts 1 and 3, I've added 5 and 6 in their place, including an optional image hook (something a bit different to portraits and buildings, which it's always nice to feature). Kingsif (talk) 23:57, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Nice work! I agree about the pic. BuySomeApples (talk) 19:52, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- @BuySomeApples: Having crossed off alts 1 and 3, I've added 5 and 6 in their place, including an optional image hook (something a bit different to portraits and buildings, which it's always nice to feature). Kingsif (talk) 23:57, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oh I missed that, sorry! BuySomeApples (talk) 21:54, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
Full review needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:18, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 19
[edit]Supreme state organ of power
- ... that the supreme state organs of power of communist states heads the unified state apparatus and holds unlimited state power unless constrained by itself?
- Source: Towster, Julian (1948). Political Power in the U.S.S.R.: 1917−1947. Oxford University Press. 212; Gasper, Donald (1982). "The Chinese National People's Congress". In Nelson, Daniel; White, Stephen (eds.). Communist Legislatures in Comparative Perspective. State University of New York Press. pp. 160–190. doi:10.1007/978-1-349-06086-3_7. ISBN 0-87395-566-8. 171.
TheUzbek (talk) 10:14, 26 June 2025 (UTC).
- @TheUzbek: Not a full review, but you may want to consider rewording the hook. I cannot parse "holds unlimited state power bar the limits it sets on itself through constitutions and laws." ―Howard • 🌽33 12:46, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Howardcorn33: Better? TheUzbek (talk) 06:17, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Yeah, looks better. ―Howard • 🌽33 08:05, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Howardcorn33: Better? TheUzbek (talk) 06:17, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
Full review needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:19, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
George Garcia
- ... that Commission on Elections chairman George Garcia personally voted on the 2023 Cavite's 7th congressional district special election which he oversaw?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bob Wicks
- Comment: Will complete QPQ within the weekend. What's novel here is while election commission officials vote all the time in general elections, and while there are several special/by-elections, it's not often that a special/by-election happens on the district where an electoral commission is a voter on.
Howard the Duck (talk) 11:54, 20 June 2025 (UTC).
I'm honestly not a fan of hooks that require the nominator to explain its importance or interestingness in the nomination. DYKINT suggests that hooks need to be interesting to non-specialist audiences, meaning the hook should be more-or-less self-evident without requiring too much knowledge. Do you have any other suggestions? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:46, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- I mean special/by-elections rather important in many places, and for someone who administers elections to personally vote on one must be rare.
- Other facts are that he counseled for politicians before becoming involved with the Commission on Elections but I thought that's boring. Howard the Duck (talk) 10:51, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- It still feels like specialist information at best. It's probably better to just go in a different direction, if possible. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:53, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- By-elections are standard fare in English speaking countries. This is not specialist at all. Such elections are standard fare on WP:DYK.
- Also some other facts are unsavory and may not pass WP:BLP more so on the Main Page. Howard the Duck (talk) 11:02, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Does the above satisfy your concerns? @Howard the Duck: Are there any additional hooks you would like to propose? Z1720 (talk) 23:29, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Far from it: the reason I did not comment further was because I still thought the hook was problematic, even with the additional context. If a hook requires a nominator's explanation to be interesting, at the very least it meeting DYKINT is tenuous at best. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:45, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- I won't be making any further changes as I believe it passes WP:DYKINT and none of the other articles I cited above had been placed in similar circumstances. Special elections are standard DYK fare and this blurb should not be held to a higher standard.
Given the above, I am marking this for closure for lack of a DYKINT-compliant hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:59, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- I have opened a discussion about this at WT:DYK#Template:Did you know nominations/George Garcia. Howard the Duck (talk) 01:42, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- I won't be making any further changes as I believe it passes WP:DYKINT and none of the other articles I cited above had been placed in similar circumstances. Special elections are standard DYK fare and this blurb should not be held to a higher standard.
- Far from it: the reason I did not comment further was because I still thought the hook was problematic, even with the additional context. If a hook requires a nominator's explanation to be interesting, at the very least it meeting DYKINT is tenuous at best. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:45, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Does the above satisfy your concerns? @Howard the Duck: Are there any additional hooks you would like to propose? Z1720 (talk) 23:29, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- It still feels like specialist information at best. It's probably better to just go in a different direction, if possible. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:53, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
As per the discussion, a new hook can be formed that is more interesting and has some more importance history-wise, ALT1 ... that George Garcia successfully defended Filipino politician Grace Poe's birthright citizenship before the Supreme Court of the Philippines? SonOfYoutubers (talk) 00:44, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'd be fine with delinking "Supreme Court of the Philippines" and just call it the "Supreme Court". Now this has almost no context whatsoever, so let's see how the gatekeepers like this. Howard the Duck (talk) 11:35, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think it should be shortened down to just 'Supreme Court', that's way too ambiguous and can represent the Supreme Court of any country. I also think it's fine linked. SonOfYoutubers (talk) 14:20, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- The blurb already specifies Grace Poe is a "Filipino politician". I don't think Zambia's supreme court determines the birthright citizenship of Filipino politicians. I can be fine with linking to "Supreme Court". Howard the Duck (talk) 14:29, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Well, hypothetically, it could be any other supreme court. Birthright citizenship can also be acquired from jus sanguinis, maybe in a case where someone fights in another country for citizenship despite being born in another territory. Anyways, no, I think it's fine to keep it because readers could also glance over the 'Filipino' part and might not even notice it. SonOfYoutubers (talk) 14:36, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hypothetically, someone else on the review process may say parts of the blurb are redundant, but I'd yield on this. Howard the Duck (talk) 14:42, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Not to go off-topic (and I apologize for this but I see a pattern), but please be more respectful. The other reviewers and I are just trying to do our job to help nominations be approved, including yours. Calling them "gatekeepers" and constantly objecting doesn't exactly help. SonOfYoutubers (talk) 14:53, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- I know gatekeepers object to that term, and I do sincerely apologize if the term can be thought of as offensive, but I'd just want to make sure the nomination goes through without any more hitches. I'm trying to cover all bases here. This nomination has lasted for almost a month. People object to every part of the process here, it's not just me who objects. WP:DYKHOOKS have to be pithy as well, that's why I'd want it to be shortened and have redundant parts of the hook - which someone else may object to later(!) - be edited. Also, someone else down the line may object that the hook doesn't focus on Garcia but on Poe; I've been told that this is fine, but like I said, someone else may object to this down the road. Like I said earlier, I'd yield on both just to get this over with. Let's just hope nobody else objects on both accounts. Howard the Duck (talk) 15:01, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- It's fine if there's another objection/edit, although I would rather, for both your and this nomination's sake, that any minor edits like shortening of the hook occur during promotion rather than here; I understand the frustration of a nomination taking a long time, minor edits shouldn't lengthen it. Certainly now, because of the discussion opened earlier, nobody should object against the hook based on DYKINT, since it seems most agreed that the new hook is interesting enough now; if somebody does, then they are personally objecting rather than using community consensus, although I guess another discussion could always be opened if somebody really wants to. To help quicken the process, I'll add the symbol requesting a new review on this same edit so that the new hook is reviewed. SonOfYoutubers (talk) 15:14, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- I know gatekeepers object to that term, and I do sincerely apologize if the term can be thought of as offensive, but I'd just want to make sure the nomination goes through without any more hitches. I'm trying to cover all bases here. This nomination has lasted for almost a month. People object to every part of the process here, it's not just me who objects. WP:DYKHOOKS have to be pithy as well, that's why I'd want it to be shortened and have redundant parts of the hook - which someone else may object to later(!) - be edited. Also, someone else down the line may object that the hook doesn't focus on Garcia but on Poe; I've been told that this is fine, but like I said, someone else may object to this down the road. Like I said earlier, I'd yield on both just to get this over with. Let's just hope nobody else objects on both accounts. Howard the Duck (talk) 15:01, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Not to go off-topic (and I apologize for this but I see a pattern), but please be more respectful. The other reviewers and I are just trying to do our job to help nominations be approved, including yours. Calling them "gatekeepers" and constantly objecting doesn't exactly help. SonOfYoutubers (talk) 14:53, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hypothetically, someone else on the review process may say parts of the blurb are redundant, but I'd yield on this. Howard the Duck (talk) 14:42, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Well, hypothetically, it could be any other supreme court. Birthright citizenship can also be acquired from jus sanguinis, maybe in a case where someone fights in another country for citizenship despite being born in another territory. Anyways, no, I think it's fine to keep it because readers could also glance over the 'Filipino' part and might not even notice it. SonOfYoutubers (talk) 14:36, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- The blurb already specifies Grace Poe is a "Filipino politician". I don't think Zambia's supreme court determines the birthright citizenship of Filipino politicians. I can be fine with linking to "Supreme Court". Howard the Duck (talk) 14:29, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think it should be shortened down to just 'Supreme Court', that's way too ambiguous and can represent the Supreme Court of any country. I also think it's fine linked. SonOfYoutubers (talk) 14:20, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
Did you know that some sort of this fact has already been on DYK? Can we do that instead? LOL. Howard the Duck (talk) 14:29, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- I have no clue if you can just copy past hooks, but either way, it should focus on the article's subject matter (George Garcia). That hook specifically focuses on the case itself and its result/effect. SonOfYoutubers (talk) 14:36, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
New review now needed based on the new hook, ALT1. SonOfYoutubers (talk) 15:14, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 20
[edit]Matt Koart
- ... that American football player Matt Koart, considered small for his position, added over 40 pounds (18 kg) in college by "stuff[ing] myself so bad"?
- Source: LA Times (archived to avoid paywall - "Koart came to USC as a freshman in 1981 weighing 217 pounds. That’s a reasonable weight for a fullback, but not a defensive tackle ...'I used to stuff myself so bad,' he said. 'I'd take a weight-gaining powder, put two bananas in it, grind it up and then shove it down my throat--2,000 calories. And that was after I ate.' ... Koart weighs 260 pounds and is a mainstay of USC’s experienced defensive line")
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mule (wanderer)
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To do QPQ within a day or two.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:00, 27 June 2025 (UTC).
- Comment: INO, I don't think the quote works here. Why not paraphrase? Also, it's far more interesting to say that he had to force himself to eat to gain weight for the position of a defensive tackle by eating 2000 calories...after he ate his regular meal? Viriditas (talk) 09:19, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
Wilf Pine
- ... that Ozzy Osbourne dislocated the arm of Black Sabbath's manager Wilf Pine on a vibrating bed?
- Source:Butler, Geezer (2023). Into the Void: From Birth to Black Sabbath and Beyond. HarperCollins.
- ALT0a: ... that Black Sabbath manager Wilf Pine's arm was dislocated in an incident involving Ozzy Osbourne and a vibrating bed?
- ALT0b: ... that Black Sabbath manager Wilf Pine suffered a dislocated arm in an incident involving Ozzy Osbourne and a vibrating bed?
- ALT0c: ... that Wilf Pine, manager of Black Sabbath, had his arm dislocated by a vibrating bed because Ozzy Osbourne kept feeding it quarters?"
- ALT1: ... that Black Sabbath manager Wilf Pine was a fixer for the New York Mafia?
- Source:Pearson, John (2003). One of the Family: The Englishman and the Mafia. Arrow Books.
Ericoides (talk) 12:28, 27 June 2025 (UTC).
- Comment: The overly long-ish paragraphs are fine for older people like myself who grew up with that style and have no problem with it, but apparently people under the age of 30 are adverse to it and prefer paragraphs half the size you are using due to their unique readability preferences attributed to social media. Something to consider if you want to increase younger readership of your article. I've been told by several people that they refuse to read articles like this, which I find strange and unusual, but every generation has their idiosyncrasies. Viriditas (talk) 09:33, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for fixing. Preparing review now. Might take me an hour or so because I'm in the middle of other things. Viriditas (talk) 21:03, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
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Overall: Hello, friend. It looks like you forgot to add citations in eight separate instances. Given your style, I think you assumed the reader knew that the material was sourced later, but current house style is to have the citations at the end of the sentence or the paragraph. I was able to fix one instance because it looked like you moved the citation to support the hook, so I doubled it up after that one example. But the other eight need you to do the same. Everything else checks out. For a list of the eight instances, citations should appear after the following words, usually at the end of a paragraph supporting the material that comes before it, but you can do it any way you want: 1) "...the role of booking acts and general management."; 2) "...and finally Procol Harum to play over the following weeks."; 3) "...along with members of The Herd and The Mindbenders."; 4) "...Pine decided to accept the offer and leave the Arden organisation."; 5) "...the next groups he signed for Meehan being the Edgar Broughton Band and Stray."; 6) "...But when Hemdale removed their public listing from the stock market, the deal fell through."; 7) "...Alfonse Sisca and Arnold Squitieri from the Gambino crime family."; 8) "...Pine is buried in Milford Road Cemetery, New Milton." I assume that all you have to do is duplicate the citations already in use. Also, don't forget, you need to double up the citation when you refer to a quote. The citation style has become more strict over the years. Add those in and I will pass. Addendum: While I think ALT0 is fine, you're going to run into opposition from others because you are playing around with the ambiguity to make it interesting. As the source shows, Ozzy didn't really dislocate Pine's arm, the vibrating bed did; all Ozzy did was add an excessive amount of quarters to the machine, which likely did cause his arm to become dislocated, legendary story or not. I don't have a problem with your wording, and I think it's fine, but having seen how this kind of thing plays out, you're going to get people who argue that it isn't an accurate hook. With that said, try to come up with some alternate hooks for ALT0 that preserve the meaning and intent but also stay true to the source. Update: Sourcing added, so passing ALT0 and ALT1 for now. Continuing discussion about more hooks below. Viriditas (talk) 22:40, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Viritas, thanks very much for the advice and for checking and improving this submission. I've done what you asked. Please do let me know if there's anything more that needs to be done. I've added a wikilink for the bed: Magic Fingers Vibrating Bed. The brand isn't specified in Geezer's book but it was the only one available in the early 1970s, so I think we can add the interesting link. If not, it can easily be amended to vibrating bed, per the original. Ericoides (talk) 13:17, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- It's an interesting question. We agree that it is highly likely that a vibrating bed refers to a Magic Fingers Vibrating Bed. But the source doesn't say that, and it adds unnecessary words to your hook. Current house style leans towards having as few links as possible to increase the number of visits to your nom, and to limit the number of words. My preference would be to avoid linking as much as possible, but styles vary. If you link to Ozzy and Black Sabbath as is your wont, then try to move the blue link to the front so that your link is given priority for visits (this is DYK after all). Example: "... that Wilf Pine, the manager of Black Sabbath, had his arm dislocated by a vibrating bed because Ozzy Osbourne kept feeding it quarters?" Let's also remember that the source says that Ozzy fed the machine 15 quarters (going from memory, I think that's what it says). In that era, each quarter gave you 15 minutes, which means Wilf Pine was subjected to 225 minutes (3 hours and 45 minutes) of vibration. This means you also have an opportunity to create an uproariously comedic hook, provided it adheres to the source. Although it doesn't say that each quarter equals 15 minutes, that's how it worked, and given we know the number of quarters used from the source, there should be a way to create a hook that meets WP:CALC. I don't usually make use of CALC in my hooks, but I know that User:Launchballer does, so I'm going to ping them for advice here. Viriditas (talk) 22:46, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- I've amended and shortened the hooks per your comments, and removed the bed link both here and in the article. I've added your hook as ALT0c. Ericoides (talk) 06:21, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- I've now removed all the links except the one to the subject himself. Ericoides (talk) 05:55, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
ALT0, ALT1, ALT0a and ALT0b. However, I'm not allowed to approve my own hook, so...
For ALT0c. Viriditas (talk) 10:16, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- I've amended and shortened the hooks per your comments, and removed the bed link both here and in the article. I've added your hook as ALT0c. Ericoides (talk) 06:21, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- It's an interesting question. We agree that it is highly likely that a vibrating bed refers to a Magic Fingers Vibrating Bed. But the source doesn't say that, and it adds unnecessary words to your hook. Current house style leans towards having as few links as possible to increase the number of visits to your nom, and to limit the number of words. My preference would be to avoid linking as much as possible, but styles vary. If you link to Ozzy and Black Sabbath as is your wont, then try to move the blue link to the front so that your link is given priority for visits (this is DYK after all). Example: "... that Wilf Pine, the manager of Black Sabbath, had his arm dislocated by a vibrating bed because Ozzy Osbourne kept feeding it quarters?" Let's also remember that the source says that Ozzy fed the machine 15 quarters (going from memory, I think that's what it says). In that era, each quarter gave you 15 minutes, which means Wilf Pine was subjected to 225 minutes (3 hours and 45 minutes) of vibration. This means you also have an opportunity to create an uproariously comedic hook, provided it adheres to the source. Although it doesn't say that each quarter equals 15 minutes, that's how it worked, and given we know the number of quarters used from the source, there should be a way to create a hook that meets WP:CALC. I don't usually make use of CALC in my hooks, but I know that User:Launchballer does, so I'm going to ping them for advice here. Viriditas (talk) 22:46, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- Viritas, thanks very much for the advice and for checking and improving this submission. I've done what you asked. Please do let me know if there's anything more that needs to be done. I've added a wikilink for the bed: Magic Fingers Vibrating Bed. The brand isn't specified in Geezer's book but it was the only one available in the early 1970s, so I think we can add the interesting link. If not, it can easily be amended to vibrating bed, per the original. Ericoides (talk) 13:17, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 21
[edit]Strong Court
- ... that the Strong Court, despite its name, was under the weak leadership of Chief Justice Samuel Henry Strong?
- Source: "Effective leadership of the Court was, at least at times, passing from Strong's hands" (Snell and Vaughan, 1985, p 62). "Henry Strong seemed to dominate the court, and under his leadership, or lack thereof, the court spiralled downward in the estimation of both the bar and the public." (Ian Bushnell, 1992, p 168)
- ALT1: ... that the Strong Court was created by the appointment of Samuel Henry Strong to the role of Chief Justice of Canada, despite Strong's many attempts to resign from the Court? Source: "Several times between 1884 and 1888 Strong actually tendered his resignation. He had stayed on at the prime minister's request, but in 1888 Sir John A. Macdonald finally gave way, writing to the minister of justice: 'I have written Strong. You would grant his pension. He may as well go.' Strong did not go, however." (Snell and Vaughan, 1985, p 45)
- ALT2: ... that despite its name, the Strong Court did not have the respect of the Canadian legal community or public? Source: "Equally unfortunate was the entrenchment of the public's generally negative perception of the institution. A Toronto law journal commented in 1896 that 'this Court has long lacked the confidence of the Bar, both in the English-speaking provinces and in Quebec, and the present state of affairs will minimize what confidence still exists." AND "The Court's reputation remained poor; the editor of the Canada Law Journal wrote privately that the Supreme Court 'is held in Contempt by the profession.'"(Snell and Vaughan, 1985, p 58, 79)
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I think the name of the court can be used to make a good pun, but I am having difficulty thinking of one
Caddyshack01 (talk) 14:36, 21 June 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on June 22
[edit]Danan: The Jungle Fighter
- ... that the video game Danan: The Jungle Fighter allows the player to summon either an armadillo, eagle, or chimpanzee to aid them?
ALT1: ... that the main character of the video game Danan: The Jungle Fighter survived a plane crash when they were just an infant? Source: https://segaretro.org/images/9/93/Danan_The_Jungle_Fighter_SMS_EU_Manual.pdf- Reviewed:
COOPER COOL 23 user page 22:16, 22 June 2025 (UTC).
- Comment: Not a review, but ALT1 is ineligible due to WP:DYKFICTION. ALT0 should be OK though, given that it describes a game mechanic and is thus a "real-world fact". Leafy46 (talk) 20:48, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
Saskatchewan Highway Patrol
- ... that the Saskatchewan Highway Patrol was in a controversy in 2020 where firearms were purchased, but were deemed questionable during an audit in 2019?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Saidur Rahman Dawn
- Comment: For the hook, that's the only thing I can think of, given that it's a bit new since they changed from the CVE to the SHP in 2018. Can (I guess) think up of more if needed.
Ominae (talk) 14:12, 22 June 2025 (UTC).
At 25:00, in Akasaka
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that the creator of At 25:00, in Akasaka rode on an ambulance for the first time while writing the second volume?
- Source: Chil Chil (link): "――執筆中の思い出に残る日常エピソードなどうかがえますでしょうか / 多分初めて救急車に乗りました。今はまったくなんともないのですがめちゃめちゃ健康の大切さを実感しました。[Please share a lasting memory from your daily life during your writing process. / That might be me riding an ambulance for the first time. Right now, it's nothing really serious, but I realized how very important it is to take care of my health.]"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/AHOF
lullabying (talk) 20:04, 22 June 2025 (UTC).
Doing... ミラP@Miraclepine 01:41, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
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Pulled per DYKINT. Nobody cares about the author's ride in an ambulance. Please try to come up with something a little more interesting and pertinent to the subject, thanks. Gatoclass (talk) 10:14, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Gatoclass: Well, I did find it a little unusual and was open to this possibility. After all, what also helps is that the creator is unlikely to have a standalone article. However, I'm busy atm and will be until Thursday, so in case this is not enough, I had drafted these more-interesting hooks in advance since there might not be time to debate ALT0's interestingness:
- ALT1A: ... that the creator of At 25:00, in Akasaka found that depicting television scripts gave her "a little more atmosphere" in writing dialogue than in other manga? 苦労した点、また楽しかった点など聞かせてください ... ドラマの台本だから! と思って普段自分の漫画で使うセリフより少し雰囲気のあるセリフを選んで描けたのは面白かったです。/Please tell us about the things you struggled with and the things you enjoyed. ... It was interesting that I was able to choose lines that had a little more atmosphere than the ones I usually use in my manga because it was a drama script. Television's not stated per se but it's obvious from the work's plot.
- ALT1B: ... that the creator of At 25:00, in Akasaka found that depicting drama scripts gave her "a little more atmosphere" in writing dialogue than in other manga? Same as ALT1A
- ALT2A: ... that the two stars of At 25:00, in Akasaka found it challenging to portray themselves as actors who "act within a show"? 俳優の役を演じるという、いわゆる二重構造についてはどういう印象を受けましたか?/What was your impression of the so-called double structure of playing the role of an actor? [Niihara and Komagine reply that acting as actors was challenging.
- ALT2B: ... that the two stars of the television drama At 25:00, in Akasaka found it challenging to portray themselves as actors who "act within a show"? Same as ALT2A
- ミラP@Miraclepine 01:40, 25 June 2025 (UTC)
New hooks need review. Gatoclass (talk) 10:08, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 23
[edit]S-1 (supercomputer)
- ... that the S-1 supercomputer was designed to have 16 processors, each with the power of a Cray-1? Source: statement made in both Stump and abstract of Widdoes
- ALT1: ... that the S-1 project was designed with the ultimate goal of building an entire supercomputer on a single silicon wafer? Source: MacKenzie 1998, p. 120.
- Reviewed: Megalobulimus dryades
Maury Markowitz (talk) 14:30, 23 June 2025 (UTC).
Arielle Prepetit
- ... that actress Arielle Prepetit was cast in the first Black Daytime soap opera in 35 years, Beyond the Gates?
- Source: [2]
- ALT1: ... that actress Arielle Prepetit performed at Walt Disney World? Source: [3]
- ALT2: ... that actress Arielle Prepetit was happy to work with Karla Mosley as she had seen her on other soap operas? Source: [4]
- ALT3: ... that American actress Arielle Prepetit can also speak Haitian Creole? Source: [5]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Elora's Dad
- Comment: Please let me know if any of the hooks need tweaking or if there is anything I should change
DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 11:01, 23 June 2025 (UTC).
Don't Tell the Dog
- ... that an advance copy of Don't Tell the Dog won an award for "most annoying album delivery"?
Launchballer 14:38, 23 June 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: @Launchballer: The hook and the article imply that the album won an actual award for the "annoying delivery," although the cited source seems to jokingly describe such an award as a hyperbolic way of saying it was annoying. I am not sure the hook, in its current form, can be allowed on the main page as it doesn't seem to be exactly factual. The text in the article should probably also be changed to clarify that there was no actual award. Graearms (talk) 18:58, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that the way one publication received an advance copy of Don't Tell the Dog led them to describe it as "the most annoying album delivery we’ve probably ever had"?--Launchballer 19:52, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer:
Graearms (talk) 19:56, 23 June 2025 (UTC)
- Launchballer, I don't think such a meaningless throwaway line deserves to be in an encylopedia, let alone a DYK section. What's next? ... that Don't Tell the Dog's creator likes to throw it at people and go, there it is? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:20, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that the name of James Marriott's second album took its name from an incident involving a childhood move?--Launchballer 18:58, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
Review needed for ALT2. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 13:57, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that the name of James Marriott's second album took its name from an incident involving a childhood move?--Launchballer 18:58, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Launchballer, I don't think such a meaningless throwaway line deserves to be in an encylopedia, let alone a DYK section. What's next? ... that Don't Tell the Dog's creator likes to throw it at people and go, there it is? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:20, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer:
Articles created/expanded on June 24
[edit]Gérard Lefranc
- ... that world champion fencer Gérard Lefranc stood at over 2 metres (6 ft 7 in) and was nicknamed the "Green Giant"?
- Source: e.g. La Voix du Nord ("Lefranc was adopted by the carnival-going community, who gave him a nickname: the 'green giant'—he stood over two meters tall ... Gérard Lefranc was also a former elite athlete. A member of the French fencing team, the Calais native won the world team title in 1962")
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Lumberjack Band (1/2)
- Comment:
To do QPQ within a day or two.I'm a bit late with the nom (I had suggested it as a possible double-hook over at Randy Winkler, but the reviewer hasn't responded yet, so nominating this as a standalone hook before it entirely runs out of eligibility); hopefully that can be excused per WP:DYKG:The seven-day limit can be extended for a day or two upon request.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:29, 3 July 2025 (UTC).
- Note: if this is approved as part of a proposed double-hook at Template:Did you know nominations/Randy Winkler, then I withdraw this nomination. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:04, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
John Schulman
- ... that John Schulman, the leader of the team that developed ChatGPT, said that his first period of serious self-directed study was inspired by the television show BattleBots?
- Source: “ The first serious self-study I did was in eighth grade, when I became obsessed with BattleBots (televised robot-combat event). Hoping it would help me built a better ‘bot, I did a lot of reading on physics, electronics, and mechanical engineering. The robot I was working on with my friends never got built, but I continued my reading.”
Thriley (talk) 02:45, 3 July 2025 (UTC).
This hook says he was the leader of the team that developed ChatGPT while the article does not say he was the leader of the team that developed ChatGPT. This hook is not WP:DYKINT. Aneirinn (talk) 02:50, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- This is stated in the career section. Thriley (talk) 21:15, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- It does not say what is stated in the hook. Aneirinn (talk) 02:03, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- This is how his role is described in various media: “At OpenAI, he led the reinforcement learning team that developed ChatGPT” source: ChatGPT architect, Berkeley alum John Schulman on his journey with AI There is no need for an overly detailed description in the hook. He did indeed lead the team that developed ChatGPT. Thriley (talk) 02:36, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- It does not say what is stated in the hook. Aneirinn (talk) 02:03, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- This is stated in the career section. Thriley (talk) 21:15, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: There is a link to the Ivan I of Moscow nomination discussion included above. Presumably this is in error? -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 04:15, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- That is the QPQ that is required for a Did You Know nomination. Thriley (talk) 02:39, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
It is not appropriate to completely fail a nomination because of a hook issue, since new and/or variant hooks can be proposed. A full review is still needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:44, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- The hook should state what can be referenced by the source as it is not overly detailed, but is what is true. He was not the only person that was the head of a team that worked on this creation. Aneirinn (talk) 03:42, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- The article I linked above calls him "ChatGPT architect." Thriley (talk) 14:32, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- That is the QPQ that is required for a Did You Know nomination. Thriley (talk) 02:39, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1 that John Schulman, the "architect" of ChatGPT, said that his first period of serious self-directed study was inspired by the television show BattleBots? Thriley (talk) 14:38, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hook seems likely to
leave the reader wanting to know more
per WP:DYKINT. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 17:33, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hook seems likely to
Mikayla Raines
- ... that wildlife rehabilitator Mikayla Raines housed two "lesbian goth foxes" at her SaveAFox Rescue in Minnesota?
- Source: All Things Considered/MPRNews
- ALT1: ... that after visiting Mikayla Raines's SaveAFox animal rescue in Minnesota, a National Geographic photographer described Raines as a "wood nymph"? Source: National Geographic
- ALT2: ... that foxes from Mikayla Raines's SaveAFox Rescue in Minnesota had their voices used for the Overwatch 2 character Kiriko? Source: NME
- ALT3: ... that after first helping rehabilitate an orphaned grey fox when she was 15, Mikayla Raines went on to found the SaveAFox Rescue in Minnesota? Source: Pioneer Press, National Geographic
- ALT4: ... that after fox rescuer Mikayla Raines died, players of the video game Overwatch 2 paid tribute to her? Source: NME
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Cube
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QPQ to come.QPQ now completed. Soulbust (talk) 12:45, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
Soulbust (talk) 17:39, 1 July 2025 (UTC).
Paul R. Anderson, Hurst Robins Anderson
- ... that Hurst Robins Anderson, president of Centenary Junior College, participated in his brother's inauguration as president of the Pennsylvania College for Women? Source: [6]
- ALT1: ... that Centenary Junior College president Hurst Robins Anderson participated in his brother's inauguration as president of the Pennsylvania College for Women? Source: same as ALT0
- ALT2: ... that Centenary Junior College president Hurst Robins Anderson participated in the inauguration of Paul R. Anderson, his brother, as president of the Pennsylvania College for Women? Source: same as ALT0
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/A Welsh Singer, Template:Did you know nominations/WQHS-DT
- Comment:
Not 100% finished with the Hurst Robins Anderson article, but the relevant fact is there and the expansion of Paul's article was done 7 days ago. Reviewers - feel free to wait for Hurst's to be done (though this should be taken care of within 48 hours).
PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 05:33, 25 June 2025 (UTC).
Excellent articles, PCN02WPS. Fresh and long enough. Fantastic sourcing. Spot checks show no close paraphrasing. The proposed hooks are a bit underwhelming, though. I see potential in both articles for much more interesting hooks, though the brothers might be separated (or not). Would you mind giving us some more options? Surtsicna (talk) 22:40, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
Alca Electronics
- ... that although their major investor was one of the founders of Sega, UK-based Alca Electronics was sued by Sega for copying their game Frogger? Source: Meadeas, 166
- ALT1: ... that Alca Electronics was the first European company to make a commercial video game, copies of Pong called Ping Pong because in the UK "pong" means a bad smell? Source: Meadeas, 124
- Reviewed: Robert I (archbishop of Nazareth)
Maury Markowitz (talk) 23:07, 24 June 2025 (UTC).
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Overall: History6042😊 (Contact me) 15:18, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
Update to original hook:
- ... that although their major
investordistributor was one of the founders of Sega, UK-based Alca Electronics was liquidated after being sued by Sega for copying their game Frogger? Source: Meadeas, 166
Still under 200 and I think it makes it clearer why this was non-trivial. Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:45, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
@Maury Markowitz: I checked the article, and I found a discrepancy between the former founder of Sega being called an "investor" here, but a "distributor" on the article. So, which one is he? SonOfYoutubers (talk) 16:17, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Yup, good spot. distributor. Maury Markowitz (talk) 17:12, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 25
[edit]George Arthur Lincoln
- ... that George Arthur Lincoln, the principal planner of George C. Marshall's World War II military campaigns, liked to spend time "mending fences, attending cattle, and riding" at his ranch in Colorado?
- Source: General Lincoln, who won his star at the age of 38, served las General of the Army George C. Marshall's principal planner for American military campaigns in Europe and Asia, including the projected invasion of Japan that dissolved with the atomic mushroom clouds over Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the Japanese surrender he helped to draft.” NY Times
Thriley (talk) 17:56, 3 July 2025 (UTC).
LuLu the Piggy

... that LuLu the Piggy (pictured) is Thailand's first pop-up store?
- Source: "Siam Discovery collaborates with the popular art toy LuLu the Piggy to launch Thailand’s first pop-up store, offering exclusive merchandise and experiences from July 5 to August 31, 2024. Siam Discovery The Exploratorium amplifies its positioning as ‘The Biggest Arena of Lifestyle Experiments’ that offers thrilling and exciting experiences where everyone can endlessly Experiment, Create, and Cultivate. Siam Discovery collaborates with the sought-after art toy characters LuLu the Piggy to launch Thailand’s first pop-up store "LuLu the Piggy – Stay with you Bangkok." Making its debut in Thailand, this exclusive pop-up store caters to the growing art toy lover community, underlying Siam Discovery’s "Be the first" commitment. Collectors can now shop their favourite LuLu the Piggy items in Bangkok, thanks to Siam Discovery and Toyzero+, from 5 July to 31 August 2024, on the 1st floor of Siam Discovery." Bangkok Post
ChiJap (talk) 11:00, 30 June 2025 (UTC).
The proposed hook is demonstrably false. The source is only saying that it's the first Lulu pop-up store in Thailand, and it's a press release and wouldn't be adequate for such claims anyway. Indeed, the article is cited only to primary sources and press releases; it will need references to independent reliable sources to show notability. The article is missing an important contextual link to art toy in the opening sentence, and the "Characteristic" section fails to frame the description in a real-world perspective. The image copyright might be an issue, as it appears to be a temporary rather than permanent installation so it's unclear whether FOP actually applies. A QPQ review is also needed, as nominator has more than 5 DYKs under another account. Other than that, article is new and long enough.
I'm going to fail this asthe article needs significant rewriting to properly present the subject's real-world significance, not just its marketing material. --Paul_012 (talk) 07:35, 1 July 2025 (UTC), updated 09:27, 1 July 2025 (UTC)- ALT1:... that the first blind box series of LuLu the Piggy (pictured) was launched in 2019?[1] ChiJap (talk) 22:49, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for providing the QPQ and alt hook. The added source provides much more in-depth information, though I'm not knowledgeable enough to assess its independence and am still not quite sure that the article demonstrates the topic's notability well enough. Personally, I don't find Alt1 interesting, but I'm going to go ahead and
request a second opinion to help look at the notability concerns. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:41, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for providing the QPQ and alt hook. The added source provides much more in-depth information, though I'm not knowledgeable enough to assess its independence and am still not quite sure that the article demonstrates the topic's notability well enough. Personally, I don't find Alt1 interesting, but I'm going to go ahead and
- ALT2:... that LuLu the Piggy (pictured) became a trendy toy since its first introduction at the 2019 Shanghai Toy Show?[2] ChiJap (talk) 00:01, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- ALT3:... that during the 2024 Summer Olympics, Hong Kong shopping mall, MOSTown, had hosted a LuLu the Piggy (pictured) sports themed campaign that was based on the event?[3] ChiJap (talk) 16:07, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
References
- ^ "TOYZEROPLUS与罐头猪LuLu:走出"潮玩圈"皆是旷野" [TOYZEROPLUS and Canned Pig LuLu: Beyond the "trendy toy circle" lies the wilderness] (in Chinese). Sohu. 20 July 2023. Retrieved 1 July 2025.
- ^ "Lulu the Piggy, Gintama pop-up stores delight Shanghai fans". Shanghai Municipal People's Government. Retrieved 8 July 2025.
- ^ Meng, Ailing (9 July 2024). "LuLu the Piggy invites everyone to join the MOST-OLYMPIGS Summer Adventure". Lifestyle Asia. Retrieved 9 July 2025.
Karel Frankenstein
- ... that Frankenstein competed at the Olympics?
- Source: [7]
Arconning (talk) 08:31, 30 June 2025 (UTC).
- Comment: Would be a good April Fool's hook. Bremps... 05:20, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
Erika Jonn

- ... that although artist Erika Jonn did not have an exhibition of her work in her native Sweden in her lifetime, the Nationalmuseum in Stockholm now holds her painting "Farm in Skåne"?
MumphingSquirrel (talk) 21:12, 27 June 2025 (UTC).
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
- Other problems:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- n
- Interesting:
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px. |
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall: The problem is that there is no topic of the art inside the article that is on the hook. Just a caption of the art is mentioned. And the other problem is that the art is not mentioned on the cited page that is on the hook. All you need is to include a topic for the art inside the article and provide another citation for the hook or else you should change the hook entirely. ChiJap (talk) 21:25, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- @MumphingSquirrel: Please respond within the last 7 days or else this entry will be closed. ChiJap (talk) 14:19, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
HMS Unicorn (1776)
- ... that the HMS Unicorn was decommissioned in August 1779, but was recommissioned the following month (September 1779)?
- Reviewed:
Commandant Quacks-a-lot (talk) 00:06, 26 June 2025 (UTC).
- I'll take a shot reviewing this. It's my first review, so once I'm done it'll definitely need a second opinion Gb321 (talk) 04:04, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing:
- History section has unreferenced facts. Service in the American Revolutionary War section has a bulleted list with only one entry referenced. The paragraph introducing the list is also unreferenced, and there is a random reference floating after the list. First paragraph in After service in the American Revolution section is unreferenced. Infobox also has lots of facts not referenced in the infobox nor mentioned/referenced in text
- Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
Hook eligibility:
- Cited:
- DYK info is in the article but has no reference
- Interesting:
- I think the hook could be made interesting if it included the reason why the ship was recommissioned. Without this reason, I don't think it is interesting enough.
- Other problems:
- mentioning September 1779 is unnecessary, readers will know what month follows August 1779
QPQ: None required. |
Overall: DYK nomination needs work but more significantly, I think the article itself is not in the proper shape for a DYK. Particularly, the lack of references and the improper formatting of the references the article does have, both of these issues are problematic. Gb321 (talk) 04:31, 26 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Commandant Quacks-a-lot: Please address the above and comment below when this is ready for a re-review. Z1720 (talk) 23:32, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 26
[edit]Episode 6994
- ... that actor Paul Nicholls made a surprise return to the soap opera EastEnders as character Joe Wicks after 27 years in Episode 6994?
- Source: [8]
- ALT1: ... that an Inside Soap writer wrote "our cup runneth over!" in reference Paul Nicholls's return to EastEnders in Episode 6994? Source: [1]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Neighbours - The 40th Anniversary Tour
- Comment: Please feel free to suggest another hook. I am happy to send a screenshot of the print source for ALT1 if needed :D
DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 00:56, 27 June 2025 (UTC).
- Not a review, but it might be better to focus on ALT0 as it is the closest to meeting WP:DYKINT and be understandable to people unfamiliar with EastEnders. However, maybe it needs a reword to avoid WP:SEAOFBLUE? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:18, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Hey, thank you for your advice! I think I have fixed it. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 05:17, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Does the above resolve your concerns? Is this ready for a full review? Z1720 (talk) 23:33, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- It solves the WP:SEAOFBLUE concerns, but I still have reservations about either hook as currently written meeting DYKINT. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:43, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Surely a character returning to a show after 27 years is interesting? I reworded it slightly now. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 23:45, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- It is, it's just that I think a better wording could be proposed that would not be reliant on knowledge of EastEnders. I also suspect that "Episode 6994" would turn off readers, so a possible wording could involve piping it without naming the episode by name in the hook. Maybe someone like Sammi Brie could help with that? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:48, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- @DaniloDaysOfOurLives and Narutolovehinata5: Perhaps try this... These episode number titles remind me of my call signs. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 01:01, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- * ... that actor Paul Nicholls made a surprise return to the soap opera EastEnders as character Joe Wicks after 27 years?
- **That sounds great with me! :) DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 01:02, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- It is, it's just that I think a better wording could be proposed that would not be reliant on knowledge of EastEnders. I also suspect that "Episode 6994" would turn off readers, so a possible wording could involve piping it without naming the episode by name in the hook. Maybe someone like Sammi Brie could help with that? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:48, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Surely a character returning to a show after 27 years is interesting? I reworded it slightly now. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 23:45, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- It solves the WP:SEAOFBLUE concerns, but I still have reservations about either hook as currently written meeting DYKINT. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:43, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
References
- ^ Tyler, Laura-Jayne (19–25 October 2024). "Hits & Misses!". Inside Soap. No. 42. p. 98.
Marcel Schwerzmann
- ... that before becoming a cantonal council member, Marcel Schwerzmann took part in a transatlantic regatta from Gran Canaria to Saint Lucia and finished second in the cruiser class?
- Source: Häfliger, André (25 September 2010). "«FIT MIT»: Marcel Schwerzmann: Segler aus Leidenschaft". Luzerner Zeitung (in German). Retrieved 25 June 2025.
- Reviewed: [[]]
Nobody (talk) 16:01, 26 June 2025 (UTC).
This article is missing needed citations
and the subject might not pass the notability guidelines for politicians.Had they finished first, the hook might be intriguing, but it is not. Aneirinn (talk) 21:44, 7 July 2025 (UTC)- @Aneirinn: Everything in the article is cited and it meets WP:GNG and WP:NSUBPOL. I don't think coming first or second in the regatta makes a difference. Nobody (talk) 10:46, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- It is still missing at least one citation. There is not a source that mentions the information about their education. Other than it being not interesting, the hook is also against MOS:SOB. Aneirinn (talk) 16:20, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- I added a source that should be alright. The Sea of blue issue shouldn't be too hard to fix, either by unlinking transatlantic or by rewording the sentence. Nobody (talk) 17:53, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- They are indeed a notable person. Maybe some alternative hooks could be suggested. Aneirinn (talk) 07:52, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- I added a source that should be alright. The Sea of blue issue shouldn't be too hard to fix, either by unlinking transatlantic or by rewording the sentence. Nobody (talk) 17:53, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that before becoming a cantonal council member, Marcel Schwerzmann finished second in a transatlantic regatta from Gran Canaria to Saint Lucia?
- This could be better. Nobody (talk) 18:47, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Aneirinn: Does the above satisfy your concerns? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 23:34, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- This could be better. Nobody (talk) 18:47, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 27
[edit]{{DYKsubpage |monthyear=July 2025 |passed= |2=
Men in This Town
- ... that Shakira's "Men in This Town", which explores a small-town woman’s search for love in the superficial Los Angeles, resonates with the empowerment themes of her Las Mujeres Ya No Lloran World Tour?
- Reviewed:
1arch (talk) 15:42, 3 July 2025 (UTC).
- ALT1: ... in "Men in This Town", Shakira sings about trying to find a decent man in the superficial clubs of Los Angeles, while referencing suicide?
1arch (talk) 10:22, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
Neither hook as currently written is compliant with WP:DYKFICTION, as both talk about in-universe (or in this case, in-song) events that do not have a real-world link. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:55, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Shakira considered sending an apology note to Luciana Barroso, the wife of Matt Damon, after mentioning him in the lyrics of her song "Men in This Town"?
Eschiva of Bures
- ... that the Kingdom of Jerusalem was lost after its army answered Princess Eschiva's plea for help against her besiegers?
- Source: "... a messenger , sent from Tiberias by Princess Eschiva , arrived on horseback in Saforie, where the Latin Kingdom's army was preparing to encounter the invading forces of Saladin ... The king decided, against the better advice of Raymond of Tripoli, to leave Saforie early in the morning and try to relieve beleaguered Tiberias, a decision which led to the disastrous defeat at Haṭṭin two days later." (Braun & Razi 2016, p. 216)
- ALT1: ... that Princess Eschiva's husband was condemned as an unchivalrous coward for counselling against helping his besieged wife–but when the royal army went to save her, they were destroyed? Source:
"Gerard of Ridefort and Raynald of Châtillon condemned Raymond’s caution as cowardly and unchivalrous, as it left the count’s wife Eschiva and her attendant ladies at the mercy of Saladin’s army." (Lewis 2017, p. 268) - ALT2: ... that Princess Eschiva was instructed by her husband to escape into the sea if she could not defend her castle, but surrendered it when she thought that he and her sons had been killed in battle? Source:
"Raymond III told his wife Eschiva and her bailifs to take to their boats and find refuge in the sea, should they not be able to defend the town against Saladin , and wait there till he came to save them." (Braun & Razi 2016, p. 217.) "Eschiva, under the assumption that her husband Raymond III of Tripoli and her children had been killed in the Battle of Hattin, agreed to surrender Tiberias’s citadel to Saladin." (Reynolds 2019, pp. 12–13) - Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Apolonia Dorregaray Veli
- Comment: Please consider which hook is most interesting. All opinions are welcome.
Surtsicna (talk) 19:37, 28 June 2025 (UTC).
Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (film)
- ... that Sonic the Hedgehog 3 references the "Shadow loves Latinas" internet meme as an homage to Sonic fandom shitposting?
- Source: Total Film
- ALT1: ... that Sonic the Hedgehog 3's writers intended for Shadow to say "guns, lots of guns" like two of Keanu Reeves's (pictured) other characters, but scrapped the idea? Source: Screen Rant
- ALT2: ... that Sonic the Hedgehog 3's director sent "retiree" Jim Carrey a US$100,000 script printed in real gold after Carrey joked this was his requirement to return to the franchise? Source: THR
- ALT3: ... that Sonic the Hedgehog 3 director Jeff Fowler was an animator on Shadow the Hedgehog's 2005 video game before adapting the character to the screen 19 years later? Source: Screen Rant & THR
- ALT4: ... that Jim Carrey spent three hours in a makeup chair before each time he shot scenes as Gerald Robotnik in Sonic the Hedgehog 3? Source: EW
- ALT5: ... that Sonic the Hedgehog 3 actor Cristo Fernández didn't get to meet his childhood hero Jim Carrey during production as their scenes were shot separately? Source: Comic Book
- ALT6: ... that several action scenes featuring Shadow the Hedgehog in Sonic the Hedgehog 3 are taken directly from the character's 2005 video game? Source: Total Film
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bhutan at the Olympics
- Comment: "Give me back my passport! Why do you want to go to Mexico?" ... "I just love Latinas, Sonic."
BarntToust 15:40, 27 June 2025 (UTC).
- Comment Nominator mentioned elsewhere on the article's talk page that they collected potential alternate hooks here. I think the current hook is good, although I am also partial to ALT2. silviaASH (inquire within) 17:25, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- @BarntToust: I've taken the liberty of moving the hooks on that page to this one. For what it's worth, I read the article after seeing it at WP:GARC and the bit about the gold script stuck out; I therefore propose ALT7: ... that a cast member's script for Sonic the Hedgehog 3 cost $100,000 to print?--Launchballer 21:49, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- User:Launchballer I prefer main. Provocative beats impressive in my mind. BarntToust 22:14, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- And mainly because of the fact there's one opportunity to give the idea of Latinas being Shadow's thing a chance to show up on the main page. I could see Jeff Fowler going to GA rather easily and getting a dyk with the concept of him giving the script, and if Jim Carrey were to get to GA, a DYK could be produced of him receiving the script. No other relevant, notable articles for Latina—Shadow business to be included in. BarntToust 22:20, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- User:Launchballer I prefer main. Provocative beats impressive in my mind. BarntToust 22:14, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- @BarntToust: I've taken the liberty of moving the hooks on that page to this one. For what it's worth, I read the article after seeing it at WP:GARC and the bit about the gold script stuck out; I therefore propose ALT7: ... that a cast member's script for Sonic the Hedgehog 3 cost $100,000 to print?--Launchballer 21:49, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
I think that the idea of Latinas in the DYK is best because of its genuine uniqueness to this article. Jim Carrey's costly script, I can think of two other places where that would work.
...that a script for a Jim Carrey movie cost $100k to print?
that... it cost Jeff Fowler $100k to print a script for Jim Carrey?
On that note, it is impossible to include anything, period, on Shadow the Hedgehog's DYK because it's already a good article. Only other place where anything about Latinas could be written. That's my standpoint, considering the opportunity and uniqueness of Shadow liking Latinas. BarntToust 22:30, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- ... that it's confirmed that Shadow the Hedgehog loves Latinas in Sonic the Hedgehog 3?
- Source: Total Film &
Above is a more concise submission that I'd like to put as final for my viewpoint. BarntToust 22:37, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- The way this is framed now feels like it'd fall afoul of WP:DYKFICTION. I think that the other issue with this hook, both the original and revised versions, is that it doesn't meet WP:DYKINT- someone with no special knowledge of the Sonic the Hedgehog franchise won't necessarily know who Shadow the Hedgehog is, or why it would be interesting or unusual if he loved Latinas. The idea of Jim Carrey getting a gold script to reprise his role, though, is more likely to be perceived as generally unusual and novel even if someone has never heard of Sonic before. silviaASH (inquire within) 23:00, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- ... that Sonic the Hedgehog 3 makes its character Shadow love Latinas because the film's director wanted an homage to Sonic fandom shitposting?
- There we go, this one technically works within DYKFICTION. But I see where the 100k gold script part falls much more securely within the lines. I'd be chill with either one, be it this one or ALT 7 though given this explanation. BarntToust 23:05, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
Xeokit
... that xeokit SDK can visualize 3D BIM models directly in your browser without needing any proprietary software?
- Source: xeokit SDK enables the visualization of 3D BIM models in standard web browsers without requiring proprietary software, facilitating vendor-neutral workflows helping avoid vendor lock-in.
- Reviewed:
Drashevski (talk) 12:40, 27 June 2025 (UTC).
The hook as currently written cannot be used as: 1. It fails WP:DYKINT (it is unlikely to interest or even be understood by people lacking specialist knowledge about IT), and 2. It reads like an advertisement for Xeokit. Pinging Maury Markowitz or DigitalIceAge for input on whether or not the article is salvageable and if a better hook can be proposed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 21:42, 27 June 2025 (UTC)
- Well first off the hood needs a link to the actual article! Looking it over, and some of the external pages, I think this is reasonable article. My only concern is the cites - there's plenty of them but most of them point back to GitHub or similar. There are some reasonable mentions in 3rd party papers (basically the second half of the cite list) but there's also a fair number of passing mentions. As always I err on the side of inclusion, so if anyone agrees this passes, the issue is the hook. This seems reasonably hooky: Maury Markowitz (talk) 12:25, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that the Xeokit software development kit is used to build browser-based programs that can view detailed 3D architectural models (pictured) on the web?- That still seems a bit too technical or at least specialist. Is there a way to make it more layperson or non-techy friendly? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:04, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- I'm going to disagree with that. The reader has to know what the web is and what a browser is, and I would wager that the average reader what architecture is, and what a 3d model is. They may not know what a software development kit is, but I think they can figure that out from the term itself. This does not seem overly technical or in-universe to me, but YMMV. Maury Markowitz (talk) 23:59, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- The layperson probably thinks of "browser" as being like Chrome or Safari (i.e. a web browser), and it's not clear from the hook that it's talking about that. Of course, it could just be because it's full of techy-sounding terms, which muddles the waters somewhat. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:16, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- I think we can safely add "web" to the "browser" bit instead of the end, and I don't think we need SDK, so how's this? Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:43, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- The layperson probably thinks of "browser" as being like Chrome or Safari (i.e. a web browser), and it's not clear from the hook that it's talking about that. Of course, it could just be because it's full of techy-sounding terms, which muddles the waters somewhat. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:16, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'm going to disagree with that. The reader has to know what the web is and what a browser is, and I would wager that the average reader what architecture is, and what a 3d model is. They may not know what a software development kit is, but I think they can figure that out from the term itself. This does not seem overly technical or in-universe to me, but YMMV. Maury Markowitz (talk) 23:59, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- That still seems a bit too technical or at least specialist. Is there a way to make it more layperson or non-techy friendly? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:04, 29 June 2025 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Xeokit is used to build web browser-based programs that can view detailed 3D architectural models (pictured)?
- Well first off the hood needs a link to the actual article! Looking it over, and some of the external pages, I think this is reasonable article. My only concern is the cites - there's plenty of them but most of them point back to GitHub or similar. There are some reasonable mentions in 3rd party papers (basically the second half of the cite list) but there's also a fair number of passing mentions. As always I err on the side of inclusion, so if anyone agrees this passes, the issue is the hook. This seems reasonably hooky: Maury Markowitz (talk) 12:25, 28 June 2025 (UTC)
This still needs a full review. I have struck the other hooks, so only ALT2 is under consideration. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:20, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 28
[edit]Randy D
- ... that Randy D became interested in broadcasting while working as a parking attendant at Lincoln Center?
- ALT1: ... that according to Randy D, his country's noise law "killed" entertainment? Source: "Meanwhile, veteran entertainment promoter Randy Dopwell told SEARCHLIGHT that he believes that when the noise act was enacted entertainment was killed." [9]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Gauthier Mvumbi
Joofjoof (talk) 20:25, 1 July 2025 (UTC).
@Joofjoof: Interesting article. New enough (mainspaced Jun 28), long enough (5300 B), no copyvio (Earwig is down, but no close paraphrasing detected). Sourcing is good as sources appear to be local print newspapers. However, one paragraph is missing a citation, which must be fixed. ALT0 is interesting and I would click on it, but the phrasing of the hook must be changed as the article does not quite say that the job got him interested in broadcasting. I would approve the hook with a slight tweak. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 01:49, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
Samuel S. Mayerberg
- ... that Samuel S. Mayerberg was nearly killed in a drive-by shooting in 1932 for criticizing political boss Tom Pendergast?
- Source: Christensen, Lawrence O.; Foley, William E.; Kremer, Gary (October 1999). Dictionary of Missouri Biography. University of Missouri Press. p. 524. ISBN 978-0-8262-6016-1.
Roast (talk) 05:49, 30 June 2025 (UTC).
Article is new enough and long enough. One image (File:Samuel Spier Mayerberg 1960 alt.jpg): the source website says this is PD, but I'm not sure how that's possible given that they also say the author is unknown and that it was created in 1960 -- unless there's some special consideration in play, like the author being an employee of the US Government, a work from that date must still be in copyright. No other concerns regarding copyvio, BLP, plagiarism or similar. I'm not convinced about some of the sourcing: this website, for instance, seems to be used to support a date -- what makes it a reliable source? Similarly, one much-used source is local news, which is dicey per WP:RS. More subjectively, I'd like to see a couple of spit-and-polish tweaks before it hits the main page -- for example, is it normal to refer to a Jewish religious group as a "church"? UndercoverClassicist T·C 18:45, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- @UndercoverClassicist: Removed this source; it was a local source from University Academy public school, but I couldn't find any further backing of its reliability. Fixed "church" issue, changed for congregation. Picture is from Harry S. Truman Library, which is federally-ran, so a government employee is extremely likely to have taken the picture.
- Hm -- I'm not convinced here. A library is a collection of records and documents; it's very unusual for a library not to include materials relevant to its subject made by people to whom it has no relation. Likewise, it's very common for online repositories of this sort to mark media as "public domain" to indicate that they don't know of any copyright, which isn't good enough for us -- we need to be positively sure that no copyright exists. I agree that it's reasonably likely that a government employee took it, but if the source isn't even willing to say that (never mind give a name), I don't think we can use such an assumption as the basis of a PD claim. However, the image would certainly be amenable to an FUR. UndercoverClassicist T·C 20:55, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- @UndercoverClassicist: If the picture is questionable, I don’t think a FUR would be possible, because Samuel S. Mayerberg.jpg on Commons also exists, and is lifted from tne Library of Congress. Though, if that also has similar problems, a FUR could be done. Roast (talk) 20:22, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- File:Samuel S. Mayerberg.jpg doesn't have a US PD tag, and almost certainly isn't PD in the United States, for similar reasons to the article image. Perhaps you could ask about both images on Commons and see what the view is there? UndercoverClassicist T·C 20:28, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- @UndercoverClassicist: So given the Wikimedia Commons discussion is going no where, I’d suggest deleting the pictures from Commons to ensure the DYK passes then worry about a non-free alternative in the in-between time of accepting and its appearence on the front page. Though, I'm unsure how to delete files on Commons, and need help with that. Roast (talk) 16:46, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- The conversation on Commons has had less than a day; that's very early to be calling it stalled. Indeed, it's been less than 12 hours since I posted the explanation of what exactly the question was. It wouldn't be necessary to delete the images from Commons to get this DYK through, and I wouldn't recommend opening a deletion request there unless there's a positive reason to believe the images are in copyright (however, to use them in a DYK/GA etc, we need a positive case that they're not copyrighted).
- @UndercoverClassicist: Given Samuel S. Mayerberg.jpg is part of Chronicalling America, wouldn't the most likely explanation be that it’s PD-US-not renewed? Roast (talk) 17:26, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- @UndercoverClassicist: Are you going to complete this review? If not, could you fetch another reviewer?
Requesting new reviewer as @UndercoverClassicist: has been inactive from this DYK despite other activity (though sparce) on Wikipedia. If they respond to that ping, then consider this request null. Roast (talk) 00:40, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- @UndercoverClassicist: Are you going to complete this review? If not, could you fetch another reviewer?
- @UndercoverClassicist: Given Samuel S. Mayerberg.jpg is part of Chronicalling America, wouldn't the most likely explanation be that it’s PD-US-not renewed? Roast (talk) 17:26, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- The conversation on Commons has had less than a day; that's very early to be calling it stalled. Indeed, it's been less than 12 hours since I posted the explanation of what exactly the question was. It wouldn't be necessary to delete the images from Commons to get this DYK through, and I wouldn't recommend opening a deletion request there unless there's a positive reason to believe the images are in copyright (however, to use them in a DYK/GA etc, we need a positive case that they're not copyrighted).
- @UndercoverClassicist: So given the Wikimedia Commons discussion is going no where, I’d suggest deleting the pictures from Commons to ensure the DYK passes then worry about a non-free alternative in the in-between time of accepting and its appearence on the front page. Though, I'm unsure how to delete files on Commons, and need help with that. Roast (talk) 16:46, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- File:Samuel S. Mayerberg.jpg doesn't have a US PD tag, and almost certainly isn't PD in the United States, for similar reasons to the article image. Perhaps you could ask about both images on Commons and see what the view is there? UndercoverClassicist T·C 20:28, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- @UndercoverClassicist: Removed this source; it was a local source from University Academy public school, but I couldn't find any further backing of its reliability. Fixed "church" issue, changed for congregation. Picture is from Harry S. Truman Library, which is federally-ran, so a government employee is extremely likely to have taken the picture.
UndercoverClassicist T·C 16:53, 2 July 2025 (UTC) Local source is from the Kansas City Public Library, which itself cites other newspapers and books, and such should be given the same verdict as the Dictionary of Missouri Biography source—both of which have a citation im common. Roast (talk) 19:33, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- I think you might have been talking about this document, which I'm reasonably happy meets the standards for WP:RS. However, I'm talking about this one. It seems to be the website of a Kansas TV station which, as far as I can tell, cites nothing at all. If we're going to treat it as an RS, we need a positive case to do so. UndercoverClassicist T·C 20:55, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- @UndercoverClassicist: The source cites a local historian who has kinda established (he wrote some articles for the Missouri Encyclopedia). But I don’t feel like bothering with such, so it and its sentences are removed. Roast (talk) 21:17, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Should have said — I’m travelling and on my phone, which makes complicated stuff (like image licensing) difficult. However, has anything actually changed? As I read my Talk page, you seem to be saying that you have evidence of PD status, but haven’t found out how to add it yet – that is still a total stumbling block for DYK approval. I’m sure there are people on Commons who would be able to advise, or indeed tutorials for doing exactly this, but PD status needs to be substantiated by evidence on the Commons page. UndercoverClassicist T·C 10:06, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- @UndercoverClassicist: Commons people did help me. See https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jmabel#Continuing_Mayerberg, and the subsequent permission change to include the Email at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mayerberg_and_Truman.jpg. Roast (talk) 10:09, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- We need something more robust than a copy-paste essentially asking to be taken on trust. How can a third editor verify that the email exists? There’s a team of people who check and vouch for communications like this; suggest them as a first point of call. UndercoverClassicist T·C 10:56, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- @UndercoverClassicist: Could you name the team? Also, do I need to continue pinging you, I feel incessant? Roast (talk) 11:03, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- You don’t — I’m watching this page. As for the details, I’m afraid I’ll have to leave that one to you for now — see my note above about travelling. But however it’s done, the images need verifiable copyright info (which the current text isn’t) before they can be used. UndercoverClassicist T·C 13:09, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- @UndercoverClassicist: Could you name the team? Also, do I need to continue pinging you, I feel incessant? Roast (talk) 11:03, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Should have said — I’m travelling and on my phone, which makes complicated stuff (like image licensing) difficult. However, has anything actually changed? As I read my Talk page, you seem to be saying that you have evidence of PD status, but haven’t found out how to add it yet – that is still a total stumbling block for DYK approval. I’m sure there are people on Commons who would be able to advise, or indeed tutorials for doing exactly this, but PD status needs to be substantiated by evidence on the Commons page. UndercoverClassicist T·C 10:06, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- @UndercoverClassicist: The source cites a local historian who has kinda established (he wrote some articles for the Missouri Encyclopedia). But I don’t feel like bothering with such, so it and its sentences are removed. Roast (talk) 21:17, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
Gaetano di Mauro
- ... that in 2013, Gaetano di Mauro won a 500-mile (800 km) karting race alongside ex-Formula One driver Rubens Barrichello?
- ALT1: ... that Gaetano di Mauro came runner-up in the 2017 Campeonato Brasileiro de Turismo season despite his car being 80 kilograms heavier than the minimum weight? Source: https://www.kartmotor.com.br/noticias/stock-car/academia-shell-racing-promove-gaetano-di-mauro--stock-car-em-2019-piloto-recebeu-notcia-de-maneira-inusitada-32129 in pt-BR: 'He led most of the Brazilian Touring Car Championship, even though he was forced to compete with 80-kilo performance ballast, as required by the regulations that season.'
- Reviewed:
- Comment: This is my first time at DYK so apologies if I make a mistake
Mitchea99 (talk) 03:36, 29 June 2025 (UTC).
- I would like to suggest File:Gaetano di Mauro 2024.jpg or File:Gaetano di Mauro 2024 (cropped).jpg as the hook image. Bremps... 05:52, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
The article meets the freshness and length criteria. I see no copyright issues. I like ALT1 better. I see sentences with no citations at the ends of three paragraphs. Furthermore I see no citations in the "Karting record" and "Racing record" sections. Is this something that can be addressed, Mitchea99? Surtsicna (talk)
- Mitch is currently away (per their userpage), so I'm assisting them with adding the missing sources. The issues with the ends of the paragraphs have been resolved, and the tables will hopefully be done soon. I'll reply to this again when the tables have been fixed. GalacticVelocity08 (talk) 00:45, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- Notifying User:Surtsicna that the referencing concerns are almost fully resolved now, with the only thing being unreferenced is the Stock Light results. I'm still trying to find something for that (there's a website that I found but it won't load). If I'm unable to find anything, then I'll put it into an invisible comment for now. I informed Mitch about this (offwiki) but due to timezone differences I figured I would just send this reply now so any other concerns can be fixed, if any. GalacticVelocity08 (talk) 01:34, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for notifying, GalacticVelocity08. We are close to wrapping this up. Surtsicna (talk) 07:43, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'm still unable to find a source for the Stock Light section; I found something for 2018 but it isn't a perfect match, and absolutely nothing for 2017. I've contacted one person to ask but in the mean time it's in an invisible comment until a source can be found. If anything else needs to be fixed before this DYK can proceed, please let me know. Thank you for the patience! GalacticVelocity08 (talk) 00:16, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Mitchea99: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 23:36, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for the ping. I'm on vacation without my laptop and a cheap phone (watch me somehow break this page formatting) so haven't been checking wiki much. I've gone through archive.org to find the Stock Light points documents, the sources should be added soon. Thanks everyone for the help. Mitchea99 (talk) 00:31, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Mitchea99: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 23:36, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'm still unable to find a source for the Stock Light section; I found something for 2018 but it isn't a perfect match, and absolutely nothing for 2017. I've contacted one person to ask but in the mean time it's in an invisible comment until a source can be found. If anything else needs to be fixed before this DYK can proceed, please let me know. Thank you for the patience! GalacticVelocity08 (talk) 00:16, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- Mitch is currently away (per their userpage), so I'm assisting them with adding the missing sources. The issues with the ends of the paragraphs have been resolved, and the tables will hopefully be done soon. I'll reply to this again when the tables have been fixed. GalacticVelocity08 (talk) 00:45, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 29
[edit]Public grocery store

- ... that some cities in the United States and the United States Armed Forces operate government-owned grocery stores?
- ALT1: ... that there are government-owned grocery stores in the United States, including city-owned supermarkets and military commissaries? Source: https://theweek.com/politics/mamdani-government-run-grocery-stores
- Reviewed:
Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 08:06, 5 July 2025 (UTC).
Now this is a trending topic. Thanks, Bohemian Baltimore. The article is new, long enough, and apparently comprehensive. I understand that the lead is supposed to look like a lead and summarize the rest of the article without citations, but I am concerned that it draws conclusions which are not found in the body; this means it needs citations. Most of the sections consist of single (and very short) paragraphs, and most paragraphs in turn are single sentences; I would also strongly suggest reworking these to fit MOS:LAYOUT. Surtsicna (talk)
- I'm a bit confused on how to add comments, so here goes. User:Surtsicna, I added some additional sources and filled out the article a bit. Could you be specific about which parts you still think need sourcing or improvement? Thank you. Bohemian Baltimore (talk) 08:06, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Courtesy ping to Bohemian Baltimore as the previous ping attempt did not include a timestamp. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 02:05, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Bohemian Baltimore: Please respond to the above. Z1720 (talk) 23:39, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
Bohemian Baltimore I'm afraid there are still paragraphs (single sentences, actually) missing sources. I have now marked them for you. There is also the option of simply deleting those bits if finding sources is a problem. I have also structured the article according to MOS:SECTION by removing small sections in favor of a bullet list. Surtsicna (talk) 16:44, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
1953–1954 royal tour of New Zealand
- ... that an estimated three quarters of New Zealand's population saw Elizabeth II (pictured) during her tour of the country in 1953–1954?
- ALT1: ... that during the 1953–1954 royal tour of New Zealand, Elizabeth II opened a session of Parliament that only lasted for seven minutes, the shortest in the country's history? Source: https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/Queen-Elizabeth-II-first-tour-of-New-Zealand/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/James Cook
- Comment: There are a heap more images to choose from. Any ideas for a better image?
―Panamitsu (talk) 22:45, 29 June 2025 (UTC).
- Comment I think the stamp would work well as the image for a hook Lajmmoore (talk) 14:13, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
The article is new, technically long enough and well-sourced. I see no copyright issues. What concerns me, Lajmmoore, is that the article looks very much like an engagement diary. They did this and that on this day, then this and that on that day, and so on. While I do not doubt the notability of the topic, I feel that the article fails to present it. Are there no contemporary commentaries on the significance of the visit? Later discussions of long-term significance? Surtsicna (talk) 18:56, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- I think the comment above is meant for Panamitsu as I didn't nominate it Lajmmoore (talk) 18:25, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- I was thinking that the large amount of people seeing the two as well as this being the first tour of a regining monarch shows its long-term significance? ―Panamitsu (talk) 22:22, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- I do not see any discussion of that in the article, Panamitsu. Historians and reporters have commented on it, haven't they? I see academic articles on Google Scholar (at least one of which is readily available) and countless books on Google Books (this one, for example). Surtsicna (talk) 14:50, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- That PDF link won't work because of the way its hosted, you should just mention the name of the article. Traumnovelle (talk) 21:19, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Right, of course. The article is Marketing the Modern Empire: Elizabeth's Royal Progress. Surtsicna (talk) 12:45, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- It's mentioned in the Background and Statistics sections. I appreciate the feedback but what part of the did you know criteria does this fall under? I'm a bit bored of working on this article lol so I don't really want to expand it too much. ―Panamitsu (talk) 22:50, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- It falls under WP:DYKCOMPLETE. I'll gladly give you time to rest from this topic. Perhaps you'll flesh it out later. Surtsicna (talk) 12:45, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry but I don't agree that this article doesn't satisfy WP:DYKCOMPLETE. While it could be expanded more, it has information about the coronation, the possibility of previous royal visits, the amount of people going to see her, stamps, a commemorative medal and the Royal Visit Honours. WP:DYKCOMPLETE lists things such as empty sections and an article about a book that discusses the author but not the contents of the book. I'm really sorry to be bitter like this, but I cannot see the problem with this article's completeness for DYK and I won't be expanding it. ―Panamitsu (talk)
- It falls under WP:DYKCOMPLETE. I'll gladly give you time to rest from this topic. Perhaps you'll flesh it out later. Surtsicna (talk) 12:45, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- That PDF link won't work because of the way its hosted, you should just mention the name of the article. Traumnovelle (talk) 21:19, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- I do not see any discussion of that in the article, Panamitsu. Historians and reporters have commented on it, haven't they? I see academic articles on Google Scholar (at least one of which is readily available) and countless books on Google Books (this one, for example). Surtsicna (talk) 14:50, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on June 30
[edit]Nándor Dáni
- ... that sportsman Nándor Dáni competed in athletics, cycling, rowing, and speed skating during his career?
- Source: [10]
- ALT1: ... that runner Nándor Dáni won Hungary's first Olympic medal? Source: [11]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Voyage to the Blue Planet
Arconning (talk) 10:37, 7 July 2025 (UTC).
Episode 4043
- ... that Episode 4043 of the British soap opera Hollyoaks was filmed in real time?
- Source: [12]
- ALT1: ... that Episode 4043 of the British soap opera Hollyoaks showed the process of taking a HIV test? Source: [13]
- ALT2: ... that actor Kieran Richardson was unsure of how viewers would react to Episode 4043 of the British soap opera Hollyoaks due the departure of a character in the previous episode? Source: [14]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Juno (Overwatch)
- Comment: Please let me know if I should suggest another hook
DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 09:12, 6 July 2025 (UTC).
Kathleen Romoli
- ... that Kathleen Romoli remained silent about her 1937 mining company promotional film Gold Platinum due to her knowledge of the exploitation of natural resources? Source: Romoli understood the power imbalance she witnessed on her trip, and she responded by never mentioning Gold Platinum and by writing a history for the indigenous communities that she encountered while filming her travelogue. A cinematic encounter that turned into a history for history-less subjects.
- ALT1: ... that Kathleen Romoli remained silent about a promotional film she made for a mining company due to her knowledge of the exploitation of natural resources? Source: Same as ALT0
- ALT2: ... that Kathleen Romoli became an anthropologist due to her experience with the exploitation of natural resources while making a promotional film for a mining company? Source: Same as ALT0 + The mining company Gold Platinum (GP) requested a promotional film about its operations in the Colombian Pacific coast. Romoli, a prominent historian and anthropologist, shot A Journey to the Operations of the South American Gold Platinum Co. (1937), also known as Gold Platinum, paying special attention to the Embera community, which was in contact with the dredge camps in the 1930s.
- ALT3: ... that before becoming an anthropologist, Kathleen Romoli once received personal thanks from Benito Mussolini for her volume of his speeches? Source: Kathleen, at age thirty-seven, curated an edition of Benito Mussolini’s speeches, Eleven Years of Fascism Through the Word of the Duce (1934), for which he publicly thanked her.
- ALT4: ... that anthropologist Kathleen Romoli would use antiquated Spanish due to her experiences with archival material? Source: Jorge recuerda cómo su familiaridad con los archivos españoles la lleva a hablar un español antiguo, no decía “pero” sino utilizaba el “más” y en lugar de “sin embargo” usaba el “empero”/Jorge recalls how her familiarity with Spanish archives led her to speak old-fashioned Spanish; she didn't say "pero" but rather used "más" (more), and instead of "sin embargo" (however), she used "empero" (empero).
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/At 25:00, in Akasaka
ミラP@Miraclepine 20:49, 4 July 2025 (UTC).
Kattar Karachi
- ... that rapper Talha Anjum made his cinematic debut with 2024 short-film Kattar Karachi?
- ALT1: ... that 2024 film Kattar Karachi is a visual representation of Talha Anjum's album My Terrible Mind? Source: "... what visual representation my album was going to have. So that's when he told me that we could even do an album film." Dawn Images. 17 December 2014.
- Reviewed:
M. Billoo 15:25, 1 July 2025 (UTC).
Neither hook meets WP:DYKINT as they are unlikely to interest readers who are unfamiliar with Anjum. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:52, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Thank you for the feedback. Really sorry to disturb, but I see a very similar one currently on display: "... that mine labourer Golekane Mosweu became an Olympic runner after someone noticed his fitness?" And one earlier this month: "... that the Miley Cyrus song "Easy Lover" was intended for three different albums before its release?" Can it be rephrased to look better? M. Billoo 16:06, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- How about rephrase it as: ALT2: ... that rapper Talha Anjum turned into an actor by cinematic representation of his album in the film Kattar Karachi? M. Billoo 21:26, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- That could work, but the hook needs to be copyedited for grammar. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:25, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- ... that Pakistani rapper Talha Anjum made his acting debut in the film Kattar Karachi, which is based on his album? M. Billoo 23:39, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- That could work, but the hook needs to be copyedited for grammar. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:25, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- How about rephrase it as: ALT2: ... that rapper Talha Anjum turned into an actor by cinematic representation of his album in the film Kattar Karachi? M. Billoo 21:26, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Thank you for the feedback. Really sorry to disturb, but I see a very similar one currently on display: "... that mine labourer Golekane Mosweu became an Olympic runner after someone noticed his fitness?" And one earlier this month: "... that the Miley Cyrus song "Easy Lover" was intended for three different albums before its release?" Can it be rephrased to look better? M. Billoo 16:06, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
Suicide by electrocution
- ... that while suicide by electrocution is usually very rare, it was one of the most common methods used in Nazi concentration camps due to the surrounding high-voltage electric fences (pictured)?
- Source: "It was evident from the collected material that the most common, most numerous, and most easily available method of committing suicide in the concentration camp was 'flinging oneself onto the wires' (Polish pójście na druty or rzucenie się na druty). As noted below, this could be any form or style of contact with the electrified barbed wire surrounding the camp.", "Suicide in the Nazi concentration camps", Medical Review Auschwitz, 2017.
- ALT1: ... that when women choose suicide by electrocution, they usually do it by dropping a plugged-in hair dryer in a bathtub they've immersed themselves in? Source: "There is preponderance of bathtub electrocution associated with females", "Suicidal electrocution: a report of three unusual cases", in Soudní Lékařství (2021)
- ALT2: ... that deputy commandant Karl Fritzsch implored the first large group of prisoners shipped to Auschwitz in 1940 to "go straight into the wires" (pictured) if they didn't like conditions in the camp? Source: [15] Paywalled and in German
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/2025 European Athletics Indoor Championships – Women's 4 × 400 metres relay
- Comment: My first DYK nomination in months. Yes, as the title should warn you, this material can be very triggering and disturbing, especially the source for ALT1, which has pictures you may not want to look at. If you're not ready for this emotionally, I strongly advise you to consider reviewing a different hook.
Daniel Case (talk) 04:24, 1 July 2025 (UTC).
Stephen of La Ferté
- ... that when the allegedly poisoned Patriarch Stephen was visited by the king and asked how he was, the dying prelate replied, “Sire, I am faring as you desire”?
- Source: "When the King came to visit the dying Patriarch, to ask how he was, the latter bitterly remarked: ‘Sire, I am faring as you desire.’" (Runciman 1952, p. 177.)
- ALT1: ... that Stephen of La Ferté was implored by Saint Bernard not to go on a pilgrimage to Jerusalem, but went anyway and became patriarch? Source: "Bernard's reprimand fell on deaf ears. Stephen not only made his pilgrimage but was elected patriarch of Jerusalem in 1128 and never returned to Europe." (Jotischky 2010, p. 6)
- ALT2: ... that Stephen of La Ferté was waiting for a ship to take him back to Europe from a pilgrimage to Jerusalem when the patriarch of Jerusalem died, and was subsequently elected to succeed him? Source: "He was waiting for a ship home when the patriarch of Jerusalem died. He was promptly elevated to the patriarchate..." (Riley-Smith 1997, p. 184)
- ALT3: ... that Stephen of La Ferté was appointed patriarch of Jerusalem because he was the king's cousin, but this backfired when Stephen demanded the king's submission? Source: "If Baldwin had hoped that the ties of cousinhood would make for cordial co-operation, he was soon disillusioned." (Runciman 1952, p. 176)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/1953–1954 royal tour of New Zealand
Surtsicna (talk) 19:37, 30 June 2025 (UTC).
Saskatchewan Marshals Service
- ... that the Saskatchewan Marshals Service was legalized in Saskatchewan through the passing of the The Police (Miscellaneous) Amendment Act, 2023?
- Source: https://pubsaskdev.blob.core.windows.net/pubsask-prod/142127/Bill-144-2023.pdf, specifcally page 2 (can include page 3 if needed).
- ALT1: ... that the Saskatchewan Marshals Service is being blamed for poaching police officers from the RCMP, but the first 10 officers are not from the Saskatchewan RCMP? Source: https://www.sasktoday.ca/provincial-news/none-of-ten-marshals-recruits-are-former-rcmp-10315655
- ALT2: ... that the Saskatchewan Marshals Service recruited a former RCMP officer from British Columbia despite claims of the SMS "poaching" officers from Saskatchewan RCMP? Source: https://www.sasktoday.ca/provincial-news/none-of-ten-marshals-recruits-are-former-rcmp-10315655
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Philippe Housiaux
- Comment: The SMS is a new police service that's suppose to go operational before the end of 2025, assuming Saskatchewan news is up to date. Working on improving and expanding it. As for QPQ, I'm working on the DYK nomination (page) that's being reviewed. Hope that it'll be resolved soon. Apologies for that. Otherwise, I'll go and change it under advisement.
Also, there's no free images of the SMS in Commons.
Ominae (talk) 10:14, 30 June 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on July 1
[edit]Andrea Enisuoh
- ... that in 1989 activist and writer Andrea Enisuoh was the first Black woman to be elected to the UK National Union of Students Executive Committee?
- Source: Cooke, Diane (4 April 1989). "Young, Gifted, and Black". The Manchester Evening News. p. 8.
- ALT1: ... that in 2010, activist Andrea Enisuoh and Hackney residents campaigned to keep the name of their local library, honouring Trinidadian writer CLR James? Source: "Andrea Enisuoh". Women From Hackney's History. 1. The Hackney History Society (Friends of Hackney Archives): 45.
- Reviewed:
Medievalfran (talk) 21:26, 1 July 2025 (UTC).
Thank you for joining DYK, Medievalfran. The article is new and looks fairly comprehensive given the coverage, but I am afraid that there are some issues with this nomination. Several paragraphs are missing citations. The hooks are missing wikilinks, but that much is easily sorted. The two greater problems with the original hook is that it is not quite supported in the article and that it is not exactly interesting. I had never heard of a National Union of Students Executive Committee. Frankly, being a first black woman member of it does not sound like much. ALT1 is only slightly better. I suppose something could be done with the Trinidadan television transmission thing, but it is not mentioned in the cited source (which is an issue of its own). Surtsicna (talk) 18:22, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- @I&I22 and Medievalfran: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 23:41, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Z1720 Thank you both for your follow-up. I will add citations for missing paragraphs asap. I am not sure how to address the comment, "The two greater problems with the original hook is that it is not quite supported in the article and that it is not exactly interesting. I had never heard of a National Union of Students Executive Committee. Frankly, being a first black woman member of it does not sound like much.". I myself am Black British and find it SHOCKING that Andrea Enisuoh could be the first Black British woman to join the National Union of Students Executive Committee. It would not matter to me that I did not know of the National Union of Students Executive committee was.I would understand thatnthe organisation is a national union aka a big deal and "should" be at the forefront of progressive thought and practices. What this DYK illuminates is that contemporary intersectional systems of oppression are alive and well in London and that advocacy efforts are never-ending and must be continuously maintained, with much work to do. If I was to see this DYK, I, as a reader, would be inspired to double-up my engagement and participation in local community efforts, understanding that all efforts towards peaceful living matter greatly and that it is often mothers leading the charge.
- I think the main issue here is that, if a reader is unfamiliar with the National Union of Students Executive Committee, which I imagine is the vast majority of our readers, then they would have no idea why the hook is supposed to be interesting or why it is a big deal that Enisuoh was its first black member. WP:DYKINT may be worth reading here: ideally, hooks need to be understandable and interesting to readers without relying (too much) on specialist or background knowledge. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:57, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 2
[edit]Marc Mac
- ... that Marc Mac is a British-Jamaican producer (one half of the group 4hero) whose album 'Two Pages' foretold the future sounds of drum 'n bass music?
- Source: Cardew, Ben (2020). Solid Gold: How 4Hero's 'Two Pages' predicted the future of d&b. DJmag. https://djmag.com/features/solid-gold-how-4heros-two-pages-predicted-future-db
- Reviewed:
I&I22 (talk) 16:10, 3 July 2025 (UTC).
New enough in mainspace and long enough. Nominator is QPQ-exempt. I don't think the hook works: it's puffery and unattributed. (The discography does not need a citation, though the detail on the labels and versions is probably excessive.) Look for a different fact, I&I22; I don't think this would be allowed to stand unless attributed to someone reasonably well-known. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 18:58, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
@Sammi Brie - i don't really understand what you are saying here. Do you mean to express that Marc Mac is not well known? this is not true and a wildly unsubstantiated statement. it is not at all "puffery and unattributed" where did you get that? why would i bother even making the article if he wasn't an important yet overlooked piece of music history - he is well known as a pioneering artist of jungle and d'n b.if you do a little research it is easy to see this. i have no idea what qpg is but i will look it up thank you and figure out citations etc. also i don't understand speaking like this to ppl volunteering their sweet irreplacable time and learning the ropes on wikipedia, "Look for a different fact,". i get it - directness and all that i - i don't mind directness - but it seems a bit abrasive. Anyways, maybe i just have misunderstood you? and am making assumptions as have often encountered aggressive, condescending, unkind, rude, assumptive, suspicious or impatient-sounding comments from other more experienced editors when i have made some newbie error. alrightee i am not on here to bicker but it is fun when the convo is more respectful especially when putting in the time to learn and participate. thanks again and will look into it — Preceding unsigned comment added by I&I22 (talk • contribs) 20:27, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- @I&I22: Please read WP:PUFFERY for more context. Generally speaking, Wikipedia wants to avoid subjective words like "pioneering" in articles, especially without proper attribution. It's more of a case of show than tell, i.e. show how the person is "pioneering", rather than saying they are so. Regarding the "well-known" thing, I think Sammi was talking about a reviewer or source that says Mac is "pioneering", rather than claiming that Mac is not well-known. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:10, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: I see. Thank you for the puffery reference. On my end I understand the word pioneering differently, less promotional I suppose. I am on a bit of a break from Wikipedia. Can either of you let me know if there is a deadline for the updates? Much thanks I&I22 (talk) 05:54, 10 July 2025 (UTC)I&I22
- Narutolovehinata5 is right. To make a claim like that requires appropriate backup, and big claims require lots of proof. That's a big claim. I'd be more than happy to help, but that's an important principle for editors to grasp. This sentence, for instance, has no reason to be there because it sounds so promotional:
Reinforced Records has supported new musical genres and emerging artists, pioneering the sounds of 90's British dance music scene through mentorship, networking opportunities, collaboration and music production.
Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 05:38, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5 is right. To make a claim like that requires appropriate backup, and big claims require lots of proof. That's a big claim. I'd be more than happy to help, but that's an important principle for editors to grasp. This sentence, for instance, has no reason to be there because it sounds so promotional:
- @Sammi Brie: ok, great that is helpful to know. Yes there are many sources to cite. I can't remember what I wrote before, but I cited many academic references on his article. I have changed the dyk question, does that read better - in keeping with Wikimedia protocols? Marc Mac is in the main reference books for edm particularly British ones. He and his group members coached Goldie in crafting/translating his sonic visions for Goldie's epic masterpiece Timeless. Their label Reinforced Records mentored and supported many essential UK edm producers. As this artist seems to have shied away from promos due to racial unrest which led to family tragedies perhaps - they have kept a behind the scene profile but they are an essential part of British culture and mentioned often in Wikipedia so found it was important to mention them and provide a more accurate context for the other article mentions. I appreciate the support and guidance as i fail my way to greater understanding. I do not understand the Wikipedia culture completely yet and am duty-bound to represent the underacknowledged cultural contributions of BIPOC folx.:)
@Narutolovehinata5: Hello! I have no idea how to format my changes...I have edited directly into the code...does this work with these kinds of DYK projects? I understand now that my question was way too mundane!
Articles created/expanded on July 3
[edit]Abhi Na Jaao Chhod Kar
- ... that the tune of the song "Abhi Na Jaao Chhod Kar" is repeated in two other songs in the movie Hum Dono?
- Reviewed:
SerChevalerie (talk) 14:57, 3 July 2025 (UTC).
- I don't believe this blurb meets WP:DYKINT; reuse of a musical theme within a work is very common (see subject, leitmotif). -insert valid name here- (talk) 21:54, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- How that this hook sound?
- ALT1 ... that in 2022, Bollywood actor Shah Rukh Khan called "Abhi Na Jaao Chhod Kar" the most romantic song in Hindi cinema?
- It might work since Khan is a Bollywood superstar and Bollywood has a large audience internationally. I mainly put "Bollywood actor" since he might be less well-known in the Western world. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:24, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Personal opinion, I still don't think it's interesting (I even think it's worse). Like, imagine a DYK hook that was like "Leonardo DiCaprio called 'City of Stars' the most romantic song in American cinema". Who really cares what Leo thinks about that song, even if he's objectively a great actor? Just my two cents though. jolielover♥talk 18:15, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Looks good to me! SerChevalerie (talk) 20:02, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- He is one of the most famous Bollywood actors of all time (I guess his popularity and fame would be comparable to, for example, Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise for Western film buffs), so I thought it was interesting that he would make such a comment. Anyway, I'm not seeing anything else in the article that would meet DYKINT, so if ALT1 fails then unfortunately we may have to fail this nomination. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:08, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- How that this hook sound?
Articles created/expanded on July 5
[edit]Dercy Furtado
- ... that Dercy Furtado was the first woman elected to the Municipal Chamber of Porto Alegre, Brazil?
Scanlan (talk) 12:10, 9 July 2025 (UTC).
RhonniRose Mantilla
- ... that actress RhonniRose Mantilla felt that her Puerto Rican heritage helped her play Anita in a production of West Side Story?
- Source: [16]
- ALT1: ... that actress RhonniRose Mantilla moved to Atlanta when she was received a role in Beyond the Gates? Source: [17]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Vampires Will Never Hurt You
- Comment: Please let me know if I should suggest a different hook
DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 09:02, 6 July 2025 (UTC).
Aerial combat of 5 October 1914
... that the first "dogfight" of World War I took place on 5 October 1914 in France?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Gina Yoginda
- Comment: a fact about a first in military history
Moondragon21 (talk) 10:05, 5 July 2025 (UTC).
- Not a review, but per WP:DYKHOOKCITE, given that this is a "first" claim, and quite an exceptional one at that, the sourcing has to be strong for this one to withstand scrutiny. Otherwise, a new direction is needed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:43, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- For now, I've struck the hook given that the sourcing in the article doesn't meet the exceptional standard needed to meet DYKHOOKCITE. @Moondragon21: Can you please propose a new hook? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:26, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1 ...that French pilot Joseph Frantz won the Legion of Honour for his actions on 5 October 1914? same source. Moondragon21 (talk) 17:14, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- Better, but I have some reservations since it's more about Frantz than the event. I'll let a reviewer decide. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:23, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1 ...that French pilot Joseph Frantz won the Legion of Honour for his actions on 5 October 1914? same source. Moondragon21 (talk) 17:14, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- For now, I've struck the hook given that the sourcing in the article doesn't meet the exceptional standard needed to meet DYKHOOKCITE. @Moondragon21: Can you please propose a new hook? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:26, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
Battle of Vrigne-Meuse
- ... that the last French soldier killed in World War I died during the Battle of Vrigne-Meuse?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Jabu Mbalula
- Comment: fact about WW1
Moondragon21 (talk) 19:02, 5 July 2025 (UTC).
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Overall, I see no reason not to approve this DYK submission. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 21:28, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- @JJonahJackalope and Moondragon21: I think there are two problems with the nomination.
- Firstly, the hook is about a superlative (last) and the article says that some scholars dispute its accuracy. WP:DYKHOOK says
Hooks with exceptional claims require exceptional sourcing. Superlative hooks such as first/biggest/most are discouraged as they are regularly debunked at ERRORS.
I think a different hook should be nominated. - Secondly, the article is translated from fr:Bataille de Vrigne-Meuse, so I ran an EARWIG check and there seem to be copyright violation problems. The main contributor, Decryptys, is blocked on fr Wikipedia. TSventon (talk) 19:43, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Concerning the first point, I felt that the source provided was sufficient, though I cannot recall reviewing a hook that dealt with an exceptional claim such as the one presented here before, so I'll defer for the time being. For the second point, I see that the Earwig check indicates a 35.1% similarity, though the tool also notes that "Violation unlikely", and additionally, a check of the English-language version of the article shows only a 2.0% similarity. I'm not sure exactly what to do about this, though I'm definitely open for further discussion with other DYK reviewers. Additionally, if the submitter can provide an ALT hook that does not raise any concerns, I could review that as well. Regards, -JJonahJackalope (talk) 19:56, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- @JJonahJackalope: you can approve the hook, but as the wording of WP:DYKHOOK was changed recently to discourage first/last hooks, it is likely to be disputed before it gets to the main page.
- The 35.1% Earwig percentage does not tell you if there was a copyright violation or not, you need to click on "compare" for the first few items and check the detail. As the article is a close translation of the French version, a copyright violation in one is likely to mean a copyright violation in the other, which the tool won't pick up. TSventon (talk) 20:19, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- @TSventon:, thanks for the feedback on this. Having given it some thought, I feel like it is best to err on the side of caution and request a new hook to be produced that does not (at the very least) toe the line with the DYK policy. Additionally, I'll conduct a more thorough review of the English article to see if it is likely that a copyright violation is present. I'll also ping @Moondragon21: to inform them of this discussion. Regards, -JJonahJackalope (talk) 20:28, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1 ...that by 11 November 1918 over 90 French soldiers were killed at the Battle of Vrigne-Meuse? same source. Moondragon21 (talk) 11:34, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Moondragon21 and JJonahJackalope:, is the Alt1 fact correct? According to ref 2, Revue historique des armées,
The losses ... during the days of 9, 10 and 11 November 1918, were 96 killed and 198 wounded [viaGoogle translate]
, so ref 1, the i, probably also refers to three days of casualties. Also the hook fact and reference(s) need to be included in the article. TSventon (talk) 16:01, 9 July 2025 (UTC)- @Moondragon21 and TSventon: It appears that the hook has been amended to address the fact that the deaths occurred over several days. Additionally, the fact has been added to the article with proper inline citing. That being said, I'm a bit concerned that ALT1 is not consistent with the guidelines at WP:DYKINT, namely that "The hook should be likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest in the topic." To be blunt, I'm not sure if the average person would find it unusual or intriguing that French soldiers were killed during a WWI battle. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 16:36, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- The main point is that it was the last day of the war. Moondragon21 (talk) 17:48, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- I understand that, and you included a link to that in the ALT hook, but still, I don't think it's that surprising that there was a battle that had casualties during the last day of a war. Is there anything more interesting that can be used as a hook for this article? -JJonahJackalope (talk) 16:59, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- I think that it is interesting that the battle took place while the armistice was being negotiated, see reference 2, Revue historique des armées. TSventon (talk) 17:10, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- JJonahJackalope, you haven't commented on my summary of the French Earwig report. If in doubt you could ask at DYK talk. Also, some sources don't look reliable, e.g. actifforum.com, over-blog.com and wordpress.com. TSventon (talk) 17:20, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- Moondragon21|TSventon, I agree that it is interesting that the battle occurred while the armistice was being negotiated, as stated above. However, it seems as though there are a good number of issues with this article as it currently stands, including possible copyright violations stemming from its original French-language article and possibly unreliable sources, as stated above. Therefore, it seems that some extensive work may be required before this article is ready for DYK approval. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 11:36, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Moondragon21: you haven't posted here since 9 July 2025, are you interested in doing more work on this nomination or should it be closed? TSventon (talk) 15:25, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- @TSventon: I would like to save it if I can. What specifically needs to be done? Moondragon21 (talk) 18:46, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Moondragon21: you haven't posted here since 9 July 2025, are you interested in doing more work on this nomination or should it be closed? TSventon (talk) 15:25, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Moondragon21|TSventon, I agree that it is interesting that the battle occurred while the armistice was being negotiated, as stated above. However, it seems as though there are a good number of issues with this article as it currently stands, including possible copyright violations stemming from its original French-language article and possibly unreliable sources, as stated above. Therefore, it seems that some extensive work may be required before this article is ready for DYK approval. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 11:36, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- I understand that, and you included a link to that in the ALT hook, but still, I don't think it's that surprising that there was a battle that had casualties during the last day of a war. Is there anything more interesting that can be used as a hook for this article? -JJonahJackalope (talk) 16:59, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- The main point is that it was the last day of the war. Moondragon21 (talk) 17:48, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Moondragon21 and TSventon: It appears that the hook has been amended to address the fact that the deaths occurred over several days. Additionally, the fact has been added to the article with proper inline citing. That being said, I'm a bit concerned that ALT1 is not consistent with the guidelines at WP:DYKINT, namely that "The hook should be likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest in the topic." To be blunt, I'm not sure if the average person would find it unusual or intriguing that French soldiers were killed during a WWI battle. -JJonahJackalope (talk) 16:36, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Moondragon21 and JJonahJackalope:, is the Alt1 fact correct? According to ref 2, Revue historique des armées,
- ALT1 ...that by 11 November 1918 over 90 French soldiers were killed at the Battle of Vrigne-Meuse? same source. Moondragon21 (talk) 11:34, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- @TSventon:, thanks for the feedback on this. Having given it some thought, I feel like it is best to err on the side of caution and request a new hook to be produced that does not (at the very least) toe the line with the DYK policy. Additionally, I'll conduct a more thorough review of the English article to see if it is likely that a copyright violation is present. I'll also ping @Moondragon21: to inform them of this discussion. Regards, -JJonahJackalope (talk) 20:28, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Concerning the first point, I felt that the source provided was sufficient, though I cannot recall reviewing a hook that dealt with an exceptional claim such as the one presented here before, so I'll defer for the time being. For the second point, I see that the Earwig check indicates a 35.1% similarity, though the tool also notes that "Violation unlikely", and additionally, a check of the English-language version of the article shows only a 2.0% similarity. I'm not sure exactly what to do about this, though I'm definitely open for further discussion with other DYK reviewers. Additionally, if the submitter can provide an ALT hook that does not raise any concerns, I could review that as well. Regards, -JJonahJackalope (talk) 19:56, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
@Moondragon21: The problems I have highlighted and @JJonahJackalope: agrees are problems are
- reliable sources: I suggest that you look at all the sources and decide if they look like WP:RS if they don't, a better source should be found or the content should be removed. Websites like actifforum.com, over-blog.com and wordpress.com don't look reliable to me, but do your own checks.
- copyright violations in the French article: I have listed what look like copyright violations in the French article below. You need to look at the EARWIG report for fr:Bataille de Vrigne-Meuse yourself and click on compare for the sites I have listed. Generally you can avoid copyright violations by summarising copyright material in your own words.
- A hook that that the battle took place while the armistice was being negotiated, see reference 2, Revue historique des armées, could be interesting. TSventon (talk) 22:59, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- @TSventon: I have reworded and improved the sourcing after looking at the EARWIG report. My new hook is ALT2 "...that the Battle of Vrigne-Meuse was fought in November 1918 during the armistice negotiations to end World War I?" using reference 2. Moondragon21 (talk) 21:49, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Moondragon21: you have removed the actifforum.com and over-blog.com sources I queried, can you explain if you think the wordpress.com source is reliable. You have made minimal changes to the text since I posted the Earwig report at 19:43, 8 July 2025, so I don't think you have dealt with any copyright violations. I have added translations of the sentences Earwig marked as duplicates below. The alt hook fact needs to be stated and referenced in the article, but I can't see it at present. TSventon (talk) 22:16, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- @TSventon: Apologies the wordpress ref referenced another source in the article. I am confused by the Earwig report. Is this the English article or the French article? Moondragon21 (talk) 11:56, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Moondragon21: The Earwig report relates to the French article and shows that the French article copied whole sentences from several sources with only minor modifications, which is a copyright violation if it takes "any creative expression" from the sources. You translated the French article, so the corresponding sentences will also violate copyright if they take "creative expression" from the sources. See Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing, especially the "translation" section for an explanation. TSventon (talk) 13:31, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- @TSventon: Apologies the wordpress ref referenced another source in the article. I am confused by the Earwig report. Is this the English article or the French article? Moondragon21 (talk) 11:56, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Moondragon21: you have removed the actifforum.com and over-blog.com sources I queried, can you explain if you think the wordpress.com source is reliable. You have made minimal changes to the text since I posted the Earwig report at 19:43, 8 July 2025, so I don't think you have dealt with any copyright violations. I have added translations of the sentences Earwig marked as duplicates below. The alt hook fact needs to be stated and referenced in the article, but I can't see it at present. TSventon (talk) 22:16, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- @TSventon: I have reworded and improved the sourcing after looking at the EARWIG report. My new hook is ALT2 "...that the Battle of Vrigne-Meuse was fought in November 1918 during the armistice negotiations to end World War I?" using reference 2. Moondragon21 (talk) 21:49, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 6
[edit]Drygalski Glacier (Tanzania)
- ... that Hans Meyer was staying in a bivouac when he discovered the Drygalski Glacier?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Operation Security and Order
- Comment: Sorry this is late - I was misled by the DYKCheck tool, which only flags articles as out of date if it's more than ten days since creation/expansion. Obviously I've been involved with DYK quite a bit in the past, but I don't submit articles very often and I made a good-faith assumption that the rules had been changed since I last submitted one.
— Amakuru (talk) 14:36, 15 July 2025 (UTC).
The article has been sufficiently expanded and looks perfectly presentable, with excellent sources. Thank you, Amakuru. We can certainly cope with a couple of days of tardiness. I am not convinced, however, that the proposed hook is the best we can come up with from such an interesting article. (What even is a bivouac?) I think the disappearance of the glacier would make a much more attractive hook. What do you say? Also, is this the glacier? It is tagged as such. If it is, it might be possible to request the photograph from the author. Surtsicna (talk) 10:58, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
Théophile Sonny Colé
- ... that in 2022, a former Central African player Théophile Sonny Colé received awards for a match that was played 50 years ago?
Faldi00 (talk) 16:41, 13 July 2025 (UTC).
Dragutin Kamber
- ... that a park in Mississauga, Ontario, Canada, is named after Axis official Dragutin Kamber?
- Source: [1]
Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 13:31, 12 July 2025 (UTC).
Wow, spicy topic! New enough and plenty, plenty long enough. QPQ present. Hook fact checks out. I have tweaked the hook to meet MOS:GEOLINK standards. I just need the clarification needed note on All-Croatian Congress to be resolved, Amanuensis Balkanicus. Ping me when this is done. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 04:51, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: Done. [18] Thanks for taking a gander! Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 13:37, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: Just following up to see if this is ready for the queue now. Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 17:28, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Sammi Brie: Done. [18] Thanks for taking a gander! Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk) 13:37, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
Meier-Gorlin syndrome
- ... that Meier-Gorlin syndrome is a rare genetic disorder that causes problems with growth, underdeveloped kneecaps, and small ears?
- Reviewed:
NotCarlJohnson1992 (talk) 06:57, 8 July 2025 (UTC).
Cube
- ... that the cube has many roles in games and toys such as Minecraft and Rubik's Cube, respectively?
- Reviewed:
Dedhert.Jr (talk) 02:19, 7 July 2025 (UTC).
Holy cube. What a dope opportunity for DYK to have to showcase this article. Was just recently improved to GA status, so it clears new enough criteria. That GA status also presumably allows for the article (and hook) to clear long (or for hook, short) enough, well-sourced, and presentable criteria. Can confirm after doing a quick double-checking of that on my end. QPQ does not apply here. ALT0 is good to go, but given the scope of the article and the plentiful amount of great images on it, I would definitely support any ALT hooks being developed here. As a result, this is a potential image+hook candidate for the DYK section too. For sure good job on this. Soulbust (talk) 12:44, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Soulbust. Perhaps there are more alternative hooks:
- ALT1: "... that there are 11 ways to unfold a cube?"
- ALT2: "... that cubes have a hexagonal cross-section, used as the floor in Dutch cube houses?"
- ALT3: "... that cubes appear in the shapes of both crystals and microorganisms?"
- This is from David Eppstein's. Dedhert.Jr (talk) 12:53, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Those are all very interesting (honestly like ALT1 or ALT3 about the unfolding or shape, respectively), but unless my ctrl+f missed it, they aren't mentioned in the article, which they would need to be for DYK purposes. All good either way. If they can't be added into the article for whatever reason, no worries, wouldn't want that to hold up the promoter from accepting this and running with ALT0, which is definitely interesting itself. Soulbust (talk) 12:58, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'll leave the ALT0 to you. Dedhert.Jr (talk) 13:14, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Those are all very interesting (honestly like ALT1 or ALT3 about the unfolding or shape, respectively), but unless my ctrl+f missed it, they aren't mentioned in the article, which they would need to be for DYK purposes. All good either way. If they can't be added into the article for whatever reason, no worries, wouldn't want that to hold up the promoter from accepting this and running with ALT0, which is definitely interesting itself. Soulbust (talk) 12:58, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
I just finished reviewing this at Wikipedia:Peer review/Cube/archive1. I hope I'm not breaking any rules by also reviewing it here. I really want to promote ALT1, but the facts in the hook are scattered across two different parts of the article. Construction talks about "eleven nets", but doesn't talk about unfolding. If you could add something which explained that "nets" is about unfolding, we'll be good to go. RoySmith (talk) 20:44, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
Actually, even better would be:
- ALT1a: "... that there are 11 ways (pictured) to unfold a cube?"
RoySmith (talk) 20:49, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- I won't mind changing the hook. My original hook is to target young generations who are interested in games nowadays. But I think this is obvious for most of them. Dedhert.Jr (talk) 03:13, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 7
[edit]Juan Álvarez (footballer, born 1948)
- ... that Mexican football manager Juan Álvarez was nicknamed the "king without a crown" after his team lost the Primera División championship due to the away goals rule?
- Source: oem.com.mx
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Giovanni Battista Bugatti
- Comment: I'm a day late. Requesting an extension to eligibility per WP:DYKG:
The seven-day limit can be extended for a day or two upon request.
To do the QPQ within a day or two.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:24, 15 July 2025 (UTC).
Article was nominated just outside the timeline but I agree we can apply WP:DYKG in this context. Expansion verified. Sourcing looks good. Assuming good faith on the source as it is not in English and my understanding of the rules of this sport is negligible so I am trusting Beanie his interpreted the Spanish language source properly. My only real concern here is that I am drawn more to clicking on the away goals rule page than the article itself on first reading because I didn't initially know what that rule is. I do think its hooky but I wonder if trimming out the "away goals rule" would be better so as not to divert clicks away from the target article. @BeanieFan11, thoughts?4meter4 (talk) 01:59, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hmm... so that'd be ALT1 ... that Mexican football manager Juan Álvarez was nicknamed the "king without a crown" after his team lost the Primera División championship? I guess I'd be okay with that, but I can also see a reason to have the original hook in that it was through an unusual rule that his team lost the title. Perhaps we could approve both and leave it to the promoter? BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:00, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
The Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer UK & Ireland Tour 2024
- ... that one reviewer described a 2024 concert tour co-headlined by The Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer as a "Gen-X wet dream"?
- Source: Hobson 2024
JJonahJackalope (talk) 21:32, 7 July 2025 (UTC).
This is not WP:DYKINT. Maybe some better alternative hooks can be provided. Aneirinn (talk) 03:13, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Aneirinn: Okay, what about ALT1: ... that while many reviewers described The Smashing Pumpkins and Weezer as an odd pairing, their 2024 co-headling concert tour received generally positive reviews?
- This fact is well-cited in the article, with multiple sources here. Radio X BirminghamWorld Manchester Evening News Huddersfield Daily Examiner
- @Aneirinn:, any opinions on this ALT hook? -JJonahJackalope (talk) 12:07, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
Bond End Canal
- ... that discharge from a lock on the Bond End Canal was used to flush a sewer?
- Source: "the short waterway found a new role in helping to solve a common problem of the day: removing sewage ... a system was devised whereby every time the river lock here was used, water was forced through the sewer as a flushing agent" from: "The Bond End Canal". Waterways. No. 276. Summer 2022. pp. 20–22.
- ALT1: ... that the route of the Bond End Canal later became a railway and then a road? Source: "the route of its infilled sections can be traced through the towns simply by following Evershed Way. This road was built in the late 1980s on the route of a railway, which, in turn, had been constructed on the line of the canal" from: "The Bond End Canal". Waterways. No. 276. Summer 2022. pp. 20–22.
- ALT2: ... that in the 18th century, workers were ordered to break through the bar separating the Bond End Canal from the Trent and Mersey Canal to try to remove an impediment to trade? Source: "the promoters of the T&M refused to allow a connection between the two canals. As usch the Shobnall Bar cam into being ... this required goods to be transhipped between boards on either side of the bar at what is now Shobnall Basin. This proved such an inconvenience that one night the Burton Boat Co attempted to break through the Shobnall Bar" from:: "The Bond End Canal". Waterways. No. 276. Summer 2022. pp. 20–22. the canal was built in 1775 and the bar was replaced with a lock in 1794
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Public Facility Maintenance Agency
Dumelow (talk) 20:30, 7 July 2025 (UTC).
Alaíde Foppa
- ... that academic Alaíde Foppa had a brief romantic relationship with Guatemalan President Juan José Arévalo?
- Source: "Over time, she formed relationships with members of the revolutionary movement—including a brief romantic relationship with Arévalo, with whom she had a son, Julio [es]—and embraced their ideals." Sourced from Leyte Chávez 2022, p. 129: "Her brief romantic relationship with Juan José Arévalo, the country's first democratically elected president, among other events, highlights the writer's obvious closeness to the revolutionary regime from its earliest years. Even after the relationship between Arévalo and Foppa broke up, her commitment to the Revolution's political and cultural project remained."
- ALT1: ... that Alaíde Foppa taught the first class on women's sociology at a Latin American university?"
- Source: At the School of Political Science, she offered the first course on the sociology of women ever to be offered at a Latin American university." [19]
- ALT2: ... that Alaíde Foppa speaks on behalf of all women in her poem "Ella se siente"?
- Source: "In this poem ["Ella se siente"], using the personal pronoun Ella, which serves as the subject, Foppa refers to every woman who exists and has existed on earth and speaks of her state of mind, a state of mind universally shared by individuals of the female sex." (Cocco 2023, p. 23)
- ALT3: ... that according to Elena Poniatowska, Alaíde Foppa lived in 58 different houses throughout her life?
- Source: "She tells them that she has lived in 58 houses in her life..." (Poniatowska 1990, p. 8)
- Reviewed:
Spookyaki (talk) 17:17, 7 July 2025 (UTC).
- Comment: not to be that one friend that's too woke, but surely this brilliant and accomplished woman could have a hook better than one about a romantic relationship? jolielover♥talk 18:06, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- That's fair. Did think of that after I made the nomination. I don't know if there's anything else in the article that's quite as hooky/would inspire as many clicks (which is of secondary importance) that isn't related to her disappearance, which I think would be even worse, but I'll go ahead and add some alts. Hopefully these better reflect her life and individual agency as a person. Spookyaki (talk) 20:07, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 8
[edit]Andrey Zaliznyak
- ... that Andrey Zaliznyak (pictured) invented self-contained linguistic puzzles that required no prior language knowledge to solve? Source: [20] "In 1963, Zaliznyak published the paper called “Linguistic problems” (Zaliznyak 1963). In this paper, he described a novel genre of exercises for introductory courses in linguistics — self-contained linguistic problems. They were intended not as a pure exercise in logic, but also as a testing ground for structuralist ideas of how language works."
- ALT1: ... that Andrey Zaliznyak's (pictured) analysis of medieval birchbark letters led to the discovery of the Old Novgorod dialect? Source: [21] "Another major contribution to the linguistic history of the Slavic languages is The Old Novgorod Dialect (Zaliznyak 1995/2004), a description of the until then unknown – or perhaps undescribed – linguistic variety."
- ALT2: ... that Andrey Zaliznyak (pictured) was sent to study in France not because of his French language skills, but because Soviet authorities didn't trust women to be sent abroad as exchange students? Source: [22] "Почему при наличии целого французского отделения выбрали меня, студента английского отделения? Ответ я узнал много позднее. Он оказался совершенно советским: ни на одном из пяти курсов во французской группе не было ни одного мужчины! А в разнарядке от высшего начальства значился мужчина: девицы считались слишком ненадежным человеческим материалом для посылки за границу." Google translate: "Why, when there was a whole French department, did they choose me, a student from the English department? I learned the answer much later. It turned out to be completely Soviet: there was not a single man in the French group in any of the five courses! And the order from the top brass included a man: girls were considered too unreliable human material to be sent abroad."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Flag of El Salvador
Artem.G (talk) 15:03, 14 July 2025 (UTC).
Marmalade
- ... that North America sells the most marmalade having 35% of world sales?
- Source: Intellect, Market Research. "Orange Marmalade Market- The Tangy Trend Sweetening the Food and Beverages Industry". Market Research Intellect. Retrieved 6 July 2025.
Floating Orb (talk) 17:38, 8 July 2025 (UTC).
- Greetings Floating Orb, and thank you for your work in making marmalade a good article. As you may be new to DYK, I highly recommend reading through the supplementary guidelines. Is the page number for the book that is cited known? The hook may also be considered exceptional, so a second source for it may be needed. Aneirinn (talk) 20:00, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hello @Aneirinn! I fixed it with a new citation. Floating Orb (talk) 24:05, 8 July 2025 (UTC).
- I am having some difficulty accessing it to find where the citation supports the hook. Can you quote what is being cited from The New York Times that supports the hook's claim that the Scottish in the 18th century added water to marmalade to produce a less solid preserve than before? Aneirinn (talk) 08:04, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Aneirinn, I fixed it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Floating Orb (talk • contribs) 16:21, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Aneirinn: Does the above resolve your concerns? If not, what else needs to be done to get this approved? Z1720 (talk) 23:46, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Aneirinn, I fixed it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Floating Orb (talk • contribs) 16:21, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- I am having some difficulty accessing it to find where the citation supports the hook. Can you quote what is being cited from The New York Times that supports the hook's claim that the Scottish in the 18th century added water to marmalade to produce a less solid preserve than before? Aneirinn (talk) 08:04, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hello @Aneirinn! I fixed it with a new citation. Floating Orb (talk) 24:05, 8 July 2025 (UTC).
Mikhl Gordon
... that Mikhl Gordon's song Di bord humorously depicts a woman grieving her husband's shaved beard?
- Source: Roskies, David G. (1999). The Jewish Search for a Usable Past. Bloomington, Indiana: Indiana University Press. p. 99.
Ploni💬 14:51, 8 July 2025 (UTC).
Unfortunately, while the hook is interesting, it does not meet WP:DYKFICTION as currently written as it is about an in-universe depiction of a fictional event (in this case, it's talking about the in-song woman and her husband's beard). As much as I would like to IAR approve the hook, it would get scrutiny from other editors and would be unlikely to survive. As such, a new hook is needed here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:27, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- Fair enough—how about one of the following? Ploni💬 02:05, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that Mikhl Gordon's first collection under his real name wasn't published until 1889, just a year before his death?(Source:Rosenthal, Herman; Zametkin, M. (1904). "Gordon, Michel". In Singer, Isidore; et al. (eds.). The Jewish Encyclopedia. Vol. 6. New York: Funk & Wagnalls. p. 48.)
ALT2: ... that Yiddish poet Mikhl Gordon was the brother-in-law and early mentor of Hebrew poet Judah Leib Gordon?(Source: Stanislawski, Michael (1988). For Whom Do I Toil?: Judah Leib Gordon and the Crisis of Russian Jewry. Studies in Jewish History. New York: Oxford University Press. pp. 14–17, 162–163.)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Does the above satisfy your concerns? Z1720 (talk) 23:47, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1 is okay, ALT2 is too specialist and should be rejected. ALT1 should be modified to state what Gordon was: was he a poet or a writer? The lede mentions multiple things. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:49, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Did you mean something like the following? Ploni💬 08:22, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Yiddish poet Mikhl Gordon's first collection under his real name wasn't published until 1889, just a year before his death?
- Yes, something like that. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:09, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- OK, please let me know if it is approved, or I will propose another. Ploni💬 08:02, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, something like that. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:09, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
Thank you. I was not intending on reviewing this, but merely pointing out the issue with the original hook. This is now ready for a full review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:58, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 9
[edit]Battle of Tupí-hú
- ... that Brazilian troops captured more than 3,000 women after the Battle of Tupí-hú?
- Source: Fertig, André; Gründling, Guilherme (2013). "O General Câmara na Guerra do Paraguai através de suas correspondências" (PDF). Estudios Historicos (in Portuguese). 10 (5). CDHRPyB.
- ALT1: ... that 18 guns, gold and silver, thousands of heads of cattle and more than 3000 women were captured after the Battle of Tupí-hú? Source: Doratioto, Francisco (2002). Maldita Guerra: Nova história da Guerra do Paraguai (in Portuguese) (2 ed.). São Paulo: Companhia das Letras. ISBN 978-65-5921-286-6. Pages 403-404.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I can transcribe/translate the relevant paragraphs from the sources listed upon request.
Coeusin (talk) 22:36, 10 July 2025 (UTC).
Ranjatai (wood)
- ... that the name of the 8th century Ranjatai incense wood is was chosen so that the kanji of Todai-ji can fit in its name?
- Source: https://grapeejapan.com/171505
- ALT1: ... that the 8th century log of agarwood was enjoyed as incense for over a millennia by Japanese leaders, including Oda Nobunaga and Emperor Meiji? Source: Ōhashi, Katsuaki; Matsuhara, Satomi; Kataoka, Naoki (2020). Shōsōin hōmotsu no kagayaki =: Great treasures of the Shosoin (Shohan ed.). Tōkyō: Ribun Shuppan.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Bath fire station
NeverBeGameOver (talk) 21:22, 10 July 2025 (UTC).
Social media use by Azealia Banks
- ... that Azealia Banks posted an Instagram story calling Irish women "ugly", and later likened them to Oompa-Loompas?
- ALT1: ... that Azealia Banks posted a text conversation where she says Grimes smells like "a roll of nickels"? Source: [4]
- ALT2: ... that Azealia Banks posted a video on Instagram of her exhuming her pet cat? Source: [5][6]
- Reviewed:
1dagsvlieg (talk) 16:05, 10 July 2025 (UTC).
- @1dagsvlieg: Not convinced any of the above meet WP:DYKBLP; I suggest finding something more general.--Launchballer 21:37, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Thanks so much, you're right! How about something like this? - 1dagsvlieg
- ALT3: ... that Azealia Banks has become more notable for her social media activity than her music? Source: [7][8]
- That's better, although the article attributes the claim to Complex and the hook puts it in wikivoice.--Launchballer 22:19, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
- A similar claim is attributed to Billboard later in the article, but it in and of itself is subjective, so I'll put this: - 1dagsvlieg
- ALT4: ... that Complex claims Azealia Banks has become more notable for her social media activity than her music? Source: [7]
I'd simply attribute 'one outlet', but I'll let an actual reviewer adjudicate.--Launchballer 10:09, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- That's better, although the article attributes the claim to Complex and the hook puts it in wikivoice.--Launchballer 22:19, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
References
- ^ Hockenos, Paul (2003). Homeland Calling: Exile Patriotism and the Balkan Wars. Ithaca, New York: Cornell University Press. pp. 37−38. ISBN 978-0-8014-4158-5.
Just past the Church of the Croatian Martyrs on Mississauga Road, an inconspicuous fenced-off entranceway with a Croat checkerboard above it marks Father Kamber Park, an address known only to Mississauga's Canadian Croats. ... The political roots of this idealized vision of Croatia are not difficult to locate. The park's namesake, Father Charles (Dragutin) Kamber, was an officer in the NDH army.
- ^ Moriarty, Aoife (2019-01-21). "US rapper Azealia Banks calls Irish women 'ugly' after Aer Lingus flight incident". The Irish Times. Retrieved 2025-07-07.
- ^ Conor, Pope (2019-01-22). "Azealia Banks calls Irish 'oompa loompas' as she arrives by ferry". The Irish Times. Retrieved 2025-07-07.
- ^ Taylor, Bryant (2019-01-22). "Azealia Banks Says Grimes Smells "Like A Roll Of Nickels" In Leaked Texts". Nylon. Retrieved 2025-07-05.
- ^ Braine, Theresa (2021-01-12). "Azealia Banks exhumes dead cat, boils it on Instagram — and everyone's horrified". New York Daily News. Retrieved 2025-07-08.
- ^ "Fans watch in disgust as rapper Azealia Banks 'digs up and cooks dead cat'". 7NEWS. 2021-01-13. Retrieved 2025-07-08.
- ^ a b "A History of Azealia Banks' Twitter Beefs". Complex. Retrieved 2025-05-02.
- ^ "Azealia Banks vs. The World: A Comprehensive List of Her Famous Feuds". Billboard. 2024-04-10. Retrieved 2025-05-05.
Os Trombadinhas
- ... that a line Pelé delivered in the 1980 movie Os Trombadinhas went viral as a meme in Brazil?
- Reviewed:
Cassilvwikis (talk) 04:06, 9 July 2025 (UTC).
New enough and long enough. Nominator Cassilvwikis is QPQ exempt. Hook fact is present and checks out in the article. There are some problems that need addressing with references. [5] is a dead ref and I suspect it would have been a WP:COPYVIOEL. If there is not an official copy, you may need to offline cite the film. And IMDb is not reliable as a cited source (WP:IMDB). Fix these and we'd be good to go. Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 19:37, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
Shoe Tree (Minnesota)
- ... that sources don't know with certainty when or why university students began throwing shoes onto the Shoe Tree in Minneapolis? Source: [23]
- ALT1: ... that the only known shoe tree in Minnesota is along the Mississippi River? Source: [24]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Gabriel M'Boa
Bsoyka (t • c • g) 04:00, 9 July 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on July 10
[edit]Building the Band
- ... that Building the Band features a posthumous appearance from a former member of One Direction?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Murder of Luigia Borrelli
- Comment: Driveby nom; I intend on cleaning this up before primetime.
Launchballer 16:30, 16 July 2025 (UTC).
Mitzi Myers
- ... that literary scholar Mitzi Myers tried rescuing her library as it burned in a house fire? Source: when a fire ripped through Mitzi Myers' Fullerton home in August 2000, she repeatedly reentered the burning house to save her precious books.
- ALT1: ... that literary scholar Mitzi Myers lost her four Maria Edgeworth manuscripts in a house fire? Source: Most of the books were lost, along with the manuscripts for two books she was writing and two other volumes she was editing ... When the fire destroyed her home, Myers was writing two books about Edgeworth and editing an annotated version of two Edgeworth novels.
- ALT2: ... that literary scholar Mitzi Myers lost her four Maria Edgeworth manuscripts in a house fire, and eventually her life? Source: ALT1 + Myers ... died at her home in Anaheim Hills on Nov. 5 of complications from the pneumonia she contracted in the wake of the fire that left her disabled
- ALT3: ... that Mitzi Myers extended the start of children's literature beyond the 1865 publication of Alice's Adventures in Wonderland? Source: Said Andrea Immel, curator of the Cotsen Children's Library at Princeton and a friend of Myers: "Of her many contributions, I'd say perhaps the most important is that she showed that children's literature had a long history--that modern children's literature did not begin in 1865 with the appearance of Lewis Carroll's 'Alice in Wonderland.' "
- ALT4: ... that literary scholar Mitzi Myers encouraged the study of book copy defacements as "the hidden history of childhood"? Source: "Rips, dirt, spills, uncensored comments, drawings and scribbles, rude jokes and missing pages--in these 'defacements' we discover the hidden history of childhood," she wrote in a paper presented to the Modern Language Assn. last December.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Don Elliot Heald
ミラP@Miraclepine 16:44, 15 July 2025 (UTC).
Qla'
- ... that Qla', a ruin located in the Samarian highlands of what is now the West Bank, was a royal production center of the Kingdom of Israel in the 8th century BCE?
- Source: Eitam, David; Lederman, Zvi; Kleiman, Assaf (2024-01-02). "Qlaʿ: A Royal Oil- and Wine-Production Centre in the Kingdom of Israel". Tel Aviv. 51 (1): 18–19. doi:10.1080/03344355.2024.2327798. ISSN 0334-4355.
- ALT1: ... that in the 8th century BCE, the Kingdom of Israel operated a royal production center at Qla', a site in today's West Bank? Source: Eitam, David; Lederman, Zvi; Kleiman, Assaf (2024-01-02). "Qlaʿ: A Royal Oil- and Wine-Production Centre in the Kingdom of Israel". Tel Aviv. 51 (1): 18–19. doi:10.1080/03344355.2024.2327798. ISSN 0334-4355.
- ALT2: ... that Qla', located in what is now the West Bank, was a royal center for olive oil and wine production in the Kingdom of Israel during the 8th century BCE? Source: Eitam, David; Lederman, Zvi; Kleiman, Assaf (2024-01-02). "Qlaʿ: A Royal Oil- and Wine-Production Centre in the Kingdom of Israel". Tel Aviv. 51 (1): 18–19. doi:10.1080/03344355.2024.2327798. ISSN 0334-4355.
- Reviewed:
ADeeperUnderstanding (talk) 16:22, 11 July 2025 (UTC).
1995 Gdańsk gas explosion
- ... that the sound made by the 1995 Gdańsk gas explosion was heard from 1.5 kilometres (0.93 miles) away?
- Source: Pasztelańska, Joanna; Pasztelański, Rafał (2018). Strażacy: Tam, gdzie zaczyna się bohaterstwo. Społeczny Instytut Wydawniczy „Znak”. p. 116. ISBN 978-83-240-5464-0.
- Reviewed:
- Comment: This book sadly does not appear to have an immediate avenue of accessing it online so I can't provide a direct quote.
Luxtaythe2nd (Talk to me...) 08:19, 11 July 2025 (UTC).
- @Luxtaythe2nd:
Hello, and welcome to DYK! Unfortunatly, this hook has some issues with WP:DYKINT, as a gas explosion being heard from a mile away is not an unusual/interesting fact. Similar incidents are common worldwide, and similar explosions are audible from significantly greater distances. Could there be a different hook you could propose instead? Please ping me if you have one! GGOTCC 20:42, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- @GGOTCC: Alright, here's a new one:
... that a living cat was found among debris—crushed twice by several floors of an apartment building—in the aftermath of the 1995 Gdańsk gas explosion? Source: [25] "Oprócz zwłok kilku kolejnych ofiar katastrofy gdańskiego wieżowca ratownicy natrafili na żywe zwierzęta - kota [...]."
Note, the first time it was crushed it was because of the weight of the building collapsing onto the lower floors after the original gas explosion, and then the building collapsed straight down onto that debris again when the unsafe remnants were detonated. Luxtaythe2nd (Talk to me...) 21:59, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- Although I think the structure may imply that the cat was crushed... here's an alternative:
... that a living cat was found among debris which had been crushed twice by several floors of an apartment building as a result of the 1995 Gdańsk gas explosion? Source: [26] "Oprócz zwłok kilku kolejnych ofiar katastrofy gdańskiego wieżowca ratownicy natrafili na żywe zwierzęta - kota [...]."
Luxtaythe2nd (Talk to me...) 22:03, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Luxtaythe2nd: Nice! I like this one a lot more. But perhaps the sentence could be a bit more direct, in my opinion, such as "...that after the 1995 Gdańsk gas explosion, a cat was rescued from the twice-collapsed rubble?"
- @GGOTCC: Sure, though maybe it somewhat underplays the fact that a whole, enormous apartment building crashed onto there twice. Like "...that after a building in Poland in 1995 was exploded twice, a surviving cat was found among the rubble?" Luxtaythe2nd (Talk to me...) 22:34, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Luxtaythe2nd: I think this one is the best! Are you alright with it? My only question is if "exploded twice" would be better than "was exploded twice"? GGOTCC 22:41, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- @GGOTCC: Yeah, I am! I do have doubts about the "was exploded twice" though, it sounds a little funny so I'd be alright with it becoming "[...] in 1995 exploded twice [...]." Luxtaythe2nd (Talk to me...) 22:44, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Luxtaythe2nd: I think this one is the best! Are you alright with it? My only question is if "exploded twice" would be better than "was exploded twice"? GGOTCC 22:41, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- @GGOTCC: Do the above hooks satisfy your concerns? Z1720 (talk) 23:50, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
Mies Building for the Eskenazi School of Art, Architecture + Design
- ... that plans for a fraternity building designed by Mies van der Rohe were forgotten for nearly half a century after Mies died? Source: Volner, Ian (March 18, 2022). "A Resurfaced Mies van der Rohe Design Has Finally Been Built". Architectural Digest.
- ALT1: ... that a university building designed by Mies van der Rohe was not built until a half-century after the architect died? Source: Volner, Ian (March 18, 2022). "A Resurfaced Mies van der Rohe Design Has Finally Been Built". Architectural Digest.
- ALT2: ... that Indiana University Bloomington's Mies Building was described as "the Farnsworth House on steroids"? Source: Loos, Ted (September 22, 2021). "The Case of the Missing Mies van der Rohe". The Wall Street Journal.
- ALT3: ... that plans for an unbuilt building designed by Mies van der Rohe were so obscure that Mies's grandson said he had never heard of them? Source: Loos, Ted (September 22, 2021). "The Case of the Missing Mies van der Rohe". The Wall Street Journal.
- ALT4: ... that the floor slabs of Indiana University Bloomington's Mies Building were thinned to accommodate mechanical systems? Source: Marani, Matthew (August 4, 2021). "Thomas Phifer and Partners revives an unbuilt Mies van der Rohe project in Indiana". The Architect’s Newspaper. "A great challenge for our team was to incorporate modern infrastructure without increasing the 15-inch floor system depth. In fact, we reduced the floor ‘sandwich’ by one inch"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Battle of Cynoscephalae (364 BCE)
Epicgenius (talk) 17:29, 10 July 2025 (UTC).
Swertia japonica
- ... that Swertia japonica is the most bitter Japanese herb?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nobara Kugisaki
- Comment: This is my first time writting an article about a plant and even something related to medicine, If I ever make some mistakes kindly tell me how to fix it.
Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 12:54, 10 July 2025 (UTC).
The article is new enough, and long enough. I did not find any close paraphrasing. A QPQ has been done. Referencing is largely alright except for one part (I will get to it later). However, the article is not ready for primetime. Firstly, it needs a copy edit as it is full of grammatical errors. Second, the claim that it is the most bitter Japanese herb is unreferenced. Thirdly, even if it was referenced, it would likely not meet WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE due to it being a superlative claim (i.e. "most bitter"), and such a claim requires exceptional sourcing to withstand scrutiny. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:36, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: I've done minor changes such as copyediting and source that one bit. Also, can this be a good ALT1.
- ALT1: ... that Swertia japonica is one of the most popular Japanese herbs despite being one of the most bitter?
- Source is the same this. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 02:37, 12 July 2025 (UTC)
- "Most popular" is also a superlative hook and thus requires strong sourcing. I'm also not comfortable stating such a claim in Wikivoice in a hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:20, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: ALT2: ... that Swertia japonica is a popular Japanese herb despite being bitter? Is this better? I've dropped the superlative one. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 13:24, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'm sorry if this may sound like nitpicking, but I'm not sure if even that would survive scrutiny given WP:WIKIVOICE concerns. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:34, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: ALT3: ... that Swertia japonica was used as an insecticide for clothes during the Edo Period?
- ALT4: ... that a mixture of glue and Swertia japonica was used during the Edo Period to protect byōbu from insect?
- both of the hook is source: Toho UniversityThe Phamaceutical Society of Japan. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 12:00, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- ALT3 is okay. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:59, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Thanks You, so is this approved without a green tick? Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 03:26, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Not yet, the article still needs to be copyedited. Narutolovehinata5 (talk ·
- @Narutolovehinata5: Thanks You, so is this approved without a green tick? Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 03:26, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- ALT3 is okay. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:59, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'm sorry if this may sound like nitpicking, but I'm not sure if even that would survive scrutiny given WP:WIKIVOICE concerns. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:34, 15 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: ALT2: ... that Swertia japonica is a popular Japanese herb despite being bitter? Is this better? I've dropped the superlative one. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 13:24, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
- "Most popular" is also a superlative hook and thus requires strong sourcing. I'm also not comfortable stating such a claim in Wikivoice in a hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:20, 14 July 2025 (UTC)
contributions) 09:00, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: My English grammar sucks, and for me at least I found no immediate problems, so I made a request on Guild of Copy Editors.Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 10:40, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 11
[edit]Dan Pashman
- ... that Dan Pashman spent three years working on a new pasta shape which he called Cascatelli (pictured), after the Italian word for waterfall?
- Source: "Add cascatelli — inspired by the Italian word for waterfall, cascata — to your pasta vocabulary and your pantry. This new pasta shape was invented after three years of research and development by Dan Pashman, the host of the podcast The Sporkful, with the expertise of Sfoglini, a pasta company based in West Coxsackie, N.Y., in the Hudson Valley. The creation story has been documented on Mr. Pashman’s podcast as “Mission: Impastable.” He insisted on a shape that could be speared with a fork, and that would hold sauce well and have a proper bite. Traditionally extruded pasta shapes are made by forcing the dough through a die; a new, high-quality bronze die was made for cascatelli. The shape is a bit larger than most short pastas, but it’s very good, especially for simpler, less ingredient-heavy sauces like marinara, carbonara, pesto and arrabbiata."
Thriley (talk) 18:13, 19 July 2025 (UTC).
Jeffrey Epstein client list
- ... that the U.S. Department of Justice declared that the Jeffrey Epstein client list did not exist five months after Attorney General Pam Bondi (in the video) apparently said that she had it on her desk?
- Source: "US justice department finds no Epstein 'client list'": "The DoJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients, will that really happen?", Bondi was asked on Fox, to which she replied: "It's sitting on my desk right now to review".
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Drygalski Glacier (Tanzania)
- Comment: I have never seen a video in a DYK set, but WP:DYKIMG implies that videos are allowed ("an associated image or other piece of media"). Of course, Bondi in this video denies saying what she said in the Fox interview, but as far as I can tell the mainstream sources concur that she did say it; I included the word "apparently" just in case.
Surtsicna (talk) 12:07, 18 July 2025 (UTC).
- I appreciate the created by credit, however, I only added two sentences to the article so it should probably just stay with the other three. Thank you for thinking of me, though! Chetsford (talk) 17:01, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Personally, I do not find ALT0 interesting as it is something most people know. Aaron Liu (talk) 19:30, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
Bhupendra Silwal
- ... that runner Bhupendra Silwal had pieces of tarmacadam embedded onto his feet at his first international competition?
Arconning (talk) 12:01, 18 July 2025 (UTC).
Frank Kayele
- ... that while growing up, athlete Frank Kayele carried food in sacks while he ran for 64 kilometres?
- Source: [29]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Eva O'Hara
- Comment: I may need some help with rewording...
Arconning (talk) 11:50, 18 July 2025 (UTC).
As with André Corvington and Dag Burgos, I cannot accept this as long enough because the character count is inflated by the lead section, which duplicates the content of the "Biography" section. Without the lead section, we have barely 1000 characters. Articles of that size do not need lead sections. This matter was discussed here. Surtsicna (talk) 16:50, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
Mary Ellen Cable
- ... that Mary Ellen Cable established one of the first "fresh air" classrooms to serve Black students during the tuberculosis epidemic?
- Reviewed:
Kacey49ers (talk) 19:05, 14 July 2025 (UTC).
Article is new enough, moved to mainspace on 13 July, is long enough, NPOV and QPQ not needed. It scores 16.0% on Copyvio, so violation unlikely. I found the hook interesting, although I would suggest change "during the tuberculosis epidemic" to "during a tuberculosis epidemic" as the specific epidemic is not named. Hook is sourced from the Encyclopedia of Indianapolis website. Image of school in article is fine as it's in the public domain. However, the article has a few issues. The Early life and education section is unsourced and so is the sentence "Cable would go on to become principal of IPS School no. 4, Indianapolis' first African American elementary school located in the Ransom Place neighborhood from 1922 until her retirement in 1933." Also, the date "Sept 19, 1944" needs to be changed to September 19, 1944 per MOS:DATE and a full stop/period needs to be added at the end of that sentence. Spiderpig662 (talk) 19:57, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
10 (Westside Gunn album)
- ... that the cover of Westside Gunn's 10 depicts a wheelchair-bound homeless man wearing $500,000 of jewelry?
- Source: 1. Eustice, Kyle (2022-12-31). "Westside Gunn Reveals Eastside Flip—Who Graces The "10" Album Cover—Overdosed". AllHipHop. Retrieved 2025-07-12. — covers his homelessness
2. Malone, Anthony (12 December 2022). "Westside Gunn's 10 is a respectful nod to the legends who paved the way". Alternative Press. Retrieved 2025-07-11. — covers jewelry depicted on cover
3. "Westside Gunn Claims 'Video Of The Year' With 'Super Kick Party' Visual – HipHopDX". Retrieved 2025-07-12. — covers wheelchair; despite being quite a distinct characteristic, the other two sources don't even mention it.- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tesla Diner & Drive-In
- Comment: Source 1 (AllHipHop) is considered reliable (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Sources).
Source 2 (Alternative Press (magazine)) is undiscussed. Though, the article's author has written for many other sources, including Rolling Stone; he's established. Source 3 (HipHopDX) is considered reliable (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums/Sources).
Possible changes to hook: Eastside Flip's cocaine dependency could be mentioned in the hook, but that seems too grim for the front page. That or his freestyling. "$500,000" could also be changed to "US$500,000" to internationalize.
Other: Should've used SOHA, but if this gets accepted, I'd suggest holding it until July 27, Gunn's birthday.
Roast (talk) 03:04, 12 July 2025 (UTC).
Nipah Dam incident
- ... that a dam in Madura Island started construction in 1980, triggered a violent incident in 1993, and was only opened in 2016? Source: [30]: 1980; [31]: 2016; 1993 is the rest of the article
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Condoman
- Comment: -
Juxlos (talk) 08:11, 11 July 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on July 12
[edit]Luchi
- ... that the flatbread luchi is typically five to six inches in diameter, but a version served in one village is as small as one inch?
- Source: [32] In appearance a luchi is a round golden disc, 12.5–15 cm (5–6") in diameter …
Ray, Pranab (July 1987). Banglar Khabar বাংলার খাবার [Food of Bengal] (in Bengali). Kolkata: Sahityolok. pp. 32–34.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Charles Champaud
- Comment: I will note, I partially translated this article from the Bengali Wikipedia, which cites some sources I cannot access online. I have submitted a WP:RX request to access the cited pages, but it's unlikely I'll access it within one week, so this DYK will have to involve some heavy AGF.
— Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 19:26, 13 July 2025 (UTC).
Murder of Charlotte Dymond
- ... that the 1844 murder of Charlotte Dymond is a part of Cornish folklore?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Episode 11,145
- Comment: Notorious 19th century crime
Moondragon21 (talk) 15:37, 12 July 2025 (UTC).
- Comment: If you don't mind, might suggest an alt hook I find more interesting?
- ALT1: ... that the 1844 murder of Charlotte Dymond inspired poetry, songs, and ghost stories? source: https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1456077?section=official-list-entry
Articles created/expanded on July 13
[edit]Papua New Guinea
- ... that Papua New Guinea became independent 50 years ago, on 16 September 1975? Source: [33]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Fat pope, thin pope
- Comment: Submission for Papua New Guinea's 50th Independence Anniversary on 16 September 2025
CMD (talk) 15:54, 19 July 2025 (UTC).
The Butterfly Club (novel)
- ... that children's novel The Butterfly Club was borrowed 1786 times between April 2015 and March 2016 from Surrey's 52 libraries?
- Source: [34]
- ALT1: ... that the cover of children's novel The Butterfly Club was recreated using 7500 Loom bands? Source: [35]
- ALT2: ... that children's novel The Butterfly Club was the seventh most borrowed Children's fiction book borrowed from Surrey's 52 libraries between April 2015 and March 2016? Source: [36]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nora Helmer
- Comment: Let me know if I should propose another hook
DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 18:53, 13 July 2025 (UTC).
Moira Deeming
- ... that although Moira Deeming came from a family of union leaders and card-carrying Labor Party members, she represents the Liberal Party in the Parliament of Victoria? Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20230513084258/https://www.spectator.com.au/2023/02/moira-deeming-former-labor-party-princess/ https://web.archive.org/web/20230516002031/https://qnews.com.au/vic-libs-to-expel-moira-deeming-over-anti-trans-rally/
- ALT1: ... that Moira Deeming won a lawsuit against John Pesutto after he implied that she associated with neo-Nazis? Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20250417074947/https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/moira-deeming-promoted-in-state-liberals-shadow-ministry-stoking-tensions-over-pesutto-s-fate-20250417-p5lslq.html
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Horace Niall
TarnishedPathtalk 10:22, 13 July 2025 (UTC).
- I don't think ALT1 is a good idea. Probably best to avoid a hook mentioning the defamation lawsuit. Steelkamp (talk) 13:49, 13 July 2025 (UTC)
KAGJ
- ... that The Kage is being eliminated? Source: https://utahnewsdispatch.com/2025/06/06/utah-universities-show-plans-to-cut-inefficient-programs-to-boost-engineering-ai-and-nursing/ (Station name is not in this article but is in the still-live station website)
- ALT1: ... that The Kage is headed for the elimination chamber? Source: (Same)
- ALT2: ... that a Utah radio station was found to not be educational enough? Source: https://digitalcollections.snow.edu/viewer/2098/?offset=52#page=1&viewer=picture&o=&n=0&q=
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Henri Elendé
- Comment: ALT1 may be quite the quirky (designed to be a play on wrestling WWE Elimination Chamber), but it also will likely end up being changed to past tense if we have to wait until April 1 to run it. If we do, the article title will be KUCU by then. ALT2 is my last resort?
Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 04:39, 13 July 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on July 14
[edit]Murder of Claire Broadbridge
- ... that Claire Broadbridge was the curator of the National Museum and Art Gallery of Trinidad and Tobago?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Episode 4778
- Comment: Trinidad and Tobago DYK
Moondragon21 (talk) 18:39, 17 July 2025 (UTC).
Hi Moondragon21. I'd be happy to review this. At the moment I don't find the hook to meet WP:DYKINT, it is basically "did you know that [person] did [job]". I also expected the link to go to a biography article not a "murder of" article. Is there an alternative hook you could propose? - Dumelow (talk) 06:09, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Dumelow thanks for taking it up. I'm not sure do you have any ideas for a better hook? Moondragon21 (talk) 22:07, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
Jessica Ellis
- ... that actress Jessica Ellis was happy that her character was killed off in Hollyoaks as she was able to look forward?
- Source: [37]
- ALT1: ... that actress Jessica Ellis has a phobia of ears? Source: Bayley, Nikki (27 January – 2 February 2018). "You ask...they answer! Jessica Ellis". Inside Soap. No. 4. pp. 54–55.
- ALT2: ... that actress Jessica Ellis struggles to have sympathy for other people when they are unwell as she does not get sick often? Source: Bayley, Nikki (27 January – 2 February 2018). "You ask...they answer! Jessica Ellis". Inside Soap. No. 4. pp. 54–55.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hester Leggatt
- Comment: Let me know if I should propose another hook. I can send a screenshot of the magazine interview verifying ALT1 and ALT2 via email for verification.
DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 01:45, 16 July 2025 (UTC).
- I think that a shortened version of the first hook might be a strong hook as well:
- ALT0a ... actress Jessica Ellis was happy that her character was killed off in Hollyoaks?
- This is not a review, but I think that the best hook is ALT1. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:02, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
Ashling O'Shea
- ... that actress Ashling O'Shea found joining the cast of Hollyoaks "surreal" as she had grown up watching the soap?
- Source: [38]
- ALT1: ... that the Irish play Eris was one of Ashling O'Shea's favourites due to being half-Irish herself? Source: [39]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Genora Johnson Dollinger
- Comment: Please let me know if I should suggest another hook
DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 11:06, 14 July 2025 (UTC).
Vvink
- ... that Vvink Angelika was behind the composition of Bini single "Pantropiko"?
- Source: ABS-CBN News "Angelika Sam, one of the songwriters behind BINI’s biggest hit “Pantropiko,” steps into the spotlight as the leader of her own girl group VVINK."
ROY is WAR Talk! 12:39, 14 July 2025 (UTC).
The hook as currently written does not meet WP:DYKINT as it is not clear to non-Filipino readers who Angelika Sam is or why it is important that she composed a Bini song. In fact, I do not think the hook even appeals to non-Bini fans. I'm also not a fan of how the hook seems to be more about Bini than Vvink itself Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:12, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- Looking at the article, I'm not sure if there's actually anything else that could work as a hook apart from maybe:
- ALT1 ... that the name of the Filipino girl group Vvink is meant to reflect themes of second chances and double victory?
- I'm not really sure if a hook about the "non-winners who had potential" theme could be written. If ALT1 doesn't work out, I would suggest failing the nomination as it's pretty light on details at the moment. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:18, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- Looking at the article, I'm not sure if there's actually anything else that could work as a hook apart from maybe:
Darth Vader in Ukrainian politics

- ... that Darth Vader attempted to run for president of Ukraine in 2014?
- Comment: This is intended for WP:DYKAPRIL.
ZLEA T\C 17:24, 14 July 2025 (UTC). General eligibility:
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Overall:
This article would have been great for DYKAPRIL, but it is not new enough for DYK. The article was nominated on 14 July but it was created in May and has not been GA'ed or expanded 5-fold in the past 7 days. I still think it would be a great DYK for April Fools so you should nominate the article for WP:GA and renominate it then. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 19:46, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- PizzaKing13 I believe this falls under the exception listed at WP:DYKAPRIL, which states that
the article need only have been created/expanded/brought to GA in the year immediately preceding the April 1 on which it will appear.
- ZLEA T\C 20:59, 16 July 2025 (UTC)- @ZLEA: My bad. Thanks for pointing that out. With that into account, the hook is sourced and pretty funny. Earwig says 2.9% so unlikely to be plagiarized + article is well cited. Image is clear and properly licensed. Looks good to me. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 21:17, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
@ZLEA and PizzaKing13: No, this article is not eligible; that carve-out is only for the special occasion rule and does not absolve adherence to WP:DYKNEW. This needs a trip to GA.--Launchballer 12:37, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- @ZLEA: My bad. Thanks for pointing that out. With that into account, the hook is sourced and pretty funny. Earwig says 2.9% so unlikely to be plagiarized + article is well cited. Image is clear and properly licensed. Looks good to me. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 21:17, 16 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: I thought so, so I was right the first time. PizzaKing13 (¡Hablame!) 🍕👑 12:52, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Launchballer Thanks for clarifying. I think WP:DYKAPRIL needs to be made a lot more clear. I doubt I'm the only one to have made that mistake. - ZLEA T\C 15:25, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 15
[edit]Julia Hagen
- ... that when cellist Julia Hagen played the Double Concerto by Brahms with violinist Renaud Capuçon and the Bamberg Symphony conducted by Jakub Hrůša at the Kurhaus Wiesbaden, it was recorded by Arte? Source: two + the recording: meet the artists
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Leontyne Price discography
- Comment: I took a photo, but it's not good enough
Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:08, 22 July 2025 (UTC).
Leontyne Price discography
- ... that the recordings of Leontyne Price (pictured) have been nominated for 25 Grammy Awards and have won 13 times?
- Source: *Jones, Randye (February 21, 2025). "Leontyne Price Biography". Afrocentric Voices in Classical Music.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Juan Álvarez (footballer, born 1948)
- Comment: Moved to main space on 00:35, 17 July 2025
4meter4 (talk) 02:07, 22 July 2025 (UTC).
First let me thank you for a substantial article on the work of one of the most outstanding singers ever! Based on plenty of excellent sources, offline sources accepted AGF, similar wording to her biography is no problem, no copyvio obvious. The image is licensed, and for the current hook, carries it alone. The number of Grammies is impressive but doesn't give some uninitiated reader the slightest bit about which music she made where. Imagine the image was not taken: just quantity would be left. We might mention beginning with Barber, or Bess, for which she stood for a long time, or Cleopatra written for her for the inauguration of the new Met, - whatever, just some music instead of only numbers. - In the article, I think that Mozart is a bit over-represented in the lead, - at least where I live she's much better known for Verdi. - Again: thank you for the article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:45, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt You seem to be confusing the focus/topic of the hook which should be on the discography of Leontyne Price and not on Leontyne Price or her stage career. What music she sang where is totally not appropriate for this article, because the article is about her recording career (largely studio recordings). Samuel Barber is an important composer but rather esoteric for a general audience. Most people won't know his repertoire, or care about it. Opening the Met is impressive, but Price never recorded Antony and Cleopatra on disc (although she did record the arias separately and the concert suite which had significant differences from the original score). The Met did film the premiere for television broadcast on PBS. However, this article is not a videography and does not include her filmed opera appearances so I don't think that really works as its off topic. Porgy and Bess is interesting, but Price spent much of her career distancing herself from the part of Bess which she mainly refused to sing even in concert after 1956 with only a few exceptions. She more often performed Clara or Serena's arias in concert later when she did on occasion agree to sing something from the opera. I wouldn't choose to highlight it. We could go the Verdi route as she made her international reputation as a Verdi singer and the discography could be tied into that, but honestly I think a general audience is going to gasp more at the number of Grammy Awards she won, and the article will get more readers with just focusing on that without bringing in anything else. It is also a recording focused hook which fits the requirement at WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE. Whatever hook is used needs to be clearly about the discography. I would request that you approve it because there is no good policy reason to hold this up, and I don't think your suggestions are likely to attract more readers, and are off topic.
- As for emphasizing Mozart, one only has to look at the studio recordings she made to see that Mozart came up repeatedly with two complete studio opera recordings, a studio made Mozart CD, and then later a compilation album dedicated to Mozart which pulled together recordings from a bunch of different albums (such as the Prima Donna collection and some recordings she made with Karajan elsewhere). Plus there are a number of Don Giovanni, Die Zauberflöte, and Cosi Fan Tutti live recordings from San Francisco, the Met, the Salzburg Festival, and the Vienna State Opera on disc (although I didn't include all of them). And she filmed Donna Anna and Pamina with NBC Opera Theatre which later had partial disc releases on minor labels, but again I didn't include everything and this article isn't a filmography. One just has to look at her records by the numbers to see there was a focus on four opera composers: Verdi, Puccini, Mozart, and Barber. One could also include Strauss as she made a Grammy winning Strauss album and a studio recording of Ariadne auf Naxos; but two recordings is a bit short for me on balance to the others which crop up repeatedly. Remember the focus here is on her records not her stage appearances. But even if we were to include her stage work she sang Donna Elvira and Donna Anna, Pamina, and Konstanze under Karajan at a bunch of places in Europe (including all of them in Vienna and Salzburg and several in Berlin), and sang all of those roles at the San Francisco Opera and most of them at the Metropolitan Opera. Price may not be remembered as a great Mozart singer but she certainly was a busy one in the late 1950s and 1960s. Mozart was a core part of her regular rep in that period. Best.4meter4 (talk) 18:48, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for explaining. I won't go into the Mozart topic, - just coming from Norrington ;) - I saw Gail Gilmore as the Composer in Ariadne, and while I liked her burning expressiveness, critics and some in the audience thought her voice wasn't made for Strauss. - Back to here: what I see is a wonderful image and a hook that leaves me cold because I'm not much into award collecting but music. The hook doesn't tell a reader if the Grammies were for singing or song-writing or what. You will for sure find someone else to approve that hook. I'd be open to something like ... that of the 13 Grammies she won, No. x was for - and you pick the one. - I didn't confuse recordings and biography, but think that - as she never had a DYK - we have a chance to pick something vital to make known about her. Sorry about not checking that she never recorded the Barber opera. It was a quick look early in the morning. I agree that the hook should be related to recording. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:29, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- In the hook, I think we should just say "recordings ...", not "the recordings". The article says "Considered "the Aida" of her generation,[37][38] Price made two different Grammy Award winning recordings of this opera for RCA", - I think that would be much more specific for a hook than numbers and only numbers.
- ALT1: ... that Leontyne Price (pictured), who was considered "the Aida" of her generation, made two recordings of Verdi's opera that both won a Grammy Award? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 04:47, 23 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for explaining. I won't go into the Mozart topic, - just coming from Norrington ;) - I saw Gail Gilmore as the Composer in Ariadne, and while I liked her burning expressiveness, critics and some in the audience thought her voice wasn't made for Strauss. - Back to here: what I see is a wonderful image and a hook that leaves me cold because I'm not much into award collecting but music. The hook doesn't tell a reader if the Grammies were for singing or song-writing or what. You will for sure find someone else to approve that hook. I'd be open to something like ... that of the 13 Grammies she won, No. x was for - and you pick the one. - I didn't confuse recordings and biography, but think that - as she never had a DYK - we have a chance to pick something vital to make known about her. Sorry about not checking that she never recorded the Barber opera. It was a quick look early in the morning. I agree that the hook should be related to recording. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:29, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- As for emphasizing Mozart, one only has to look at the studio recordings she made to see that Mozart came up repeatedly with two complete studio opera recordings, a studio made Mozart CD, and then later a compilation album dedicated to Mozart which pulled together recordings from a bunch of different albums (such as the Prima Donna collection and some recordings she made with Karajan elsewhere). Plus there are a number of Don Giovanni, Die Zauberflöte, and Cosi Fan Tutti live recordings from San Francisco, the Met, the Salzburg Festival, and the Vienna State Opera on disc (although I didn't include all of them). And she filmed Donna Anna and Pamina with NBC Opera Theatre which later had partial disc releases on minor labels, but again I didn't include everything and this article isn't a filmography. One just has to look at her records by the numbers to see there was a focus on four opera composers: Verdi, Puccini, Mozart, and Barber. One could also include Strauss as she made a Grammy winning Strauss album and a studio recording of Ariadne auf Naxos; but two recordings is a bit short for me on balance to the others which crop up repeatedly. Remember the focus here is on her records not her stage appearances. But even if we were to include her stage work she sang Donna Elvira and Donna Anna, Pamina, and Konstanze under Karajan at a bunch of places in Europe (including all of them in Vienna and Salzburg and several in Berlin), and sang all of those roles at the San Francisco Opera and most of them at the Metropolitan Opera. Price may not be remembered as a great Mozart singer but she certainly was a busy one in the late 1950s and 1960s. Mozart was a core part of her regular rep in that period. Best.4meter4 (talk) 18:48, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
Requesting a new opinion.4meter4 (talk) 22:41, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
Against the Tide (sculpture)
- ... that Against the Tide was inspired by a hand gesture in Pietà (pictured) by Michelangelo?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Semiaquilegia adoxoides
- Comment: 4th of 8 QPQs for this discussion
TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:28, 16 July 2025 (UTC).
List of songs written by Louis Tomlinson
- Source: The Independent Billboard
- ALT1: ... that Louis Tomlinson has songwriting credits for Exo, Blackbear, and his former band One Direction? Source: Exo: ASCAP
Blackbear: ASCAP
One Direction: BMI - ALT2: ... that Louis Tomlinson has writing credits for 7 songs that have appeared in the top 10 of the UK Singles chart? Source: 1D, LT
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Iranian external operations
jolielover♥talk 18:48, 15 July 2025 (UTC).
1975 Jubilee ordination
- ... that Pope Paul VI ordained some 350 men as priests in a ceremony that lasted over 3 hours?
- Source: "The Road to Rome". TIME Magazine. Vol. 106, no. 2. July 14, 1975. p. 38. Retrieved July 15, 2025.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/George Zurcher
- Comment: Clarifying information on the copyright status of the image may be found at commons:Category:Photographs distributed by Associated Press
~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 16:48, 15 July 2025 (UTC).
Current nominations
[edit]Articles created/expanded on July 16
[edit]Claus Peymann
- ... that Claus Peymann (pictured), who directed the premiere of Handke's Offending the Audience at the TAT in 1966, brought new plays by Thomas Bernhard and Elfriede Jelinek to the Vienna Burgtheater? Source: several
- Reviewed: to come
- Comment: or from student revolt beginnings to a position right below God, as the sources say - the TAT is a new article, and I may expand and source it sufficiently to make a double nom.
Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:16, 22 July 2025 (UTC).
Indie Rock Road Trip
- ... that Weezer announced their Indie Rock Road Trip concert tour after plans for a concert residency on Broadway fell through?
- Source: Kerrang! 2023
- ALT1: ... that during a 2023 concert tour, Weezer's lead singer Rivers Cuomo told an audience, "We’ve put out 401 songs since we started and we don’t get to do a lot of them"? Source: Pittsburgh Post-Gazette 2023
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Luisa Moreno
JJonahJackalope (talk) 13:04, 17 July 2025 (UTC).
Burger King foot lettuce
- ... that a Mayfield Heights Facebook page was inundated with photos of someone standing on lettuce?
Based5290 :3 (talk) 07:19, 17 July 2025 (UTC).
Hi Based5290 :3, at the moment this is below the minimum length for DYK (I measure it at 1,235 characters against the 1,500 minimum). The AFD also needs to conclude before this can proceed - Dumelow (talk) 10:53, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
SACHI (band)
- ... that SACHI's big break came after throwing a USB demo through Diplo's car window outside an Auckland restaurant?
- Source: "They waited an hour or two while Diplo ate, then spotted his convoy of black SUVs, spied the star through a window and ran at him. [...] 'The whole thing unfolded in about five seconds. He wound down the window and I threw the USB stick in and yeah, six months later he played it on [BBC] Radio 1.'" [40]
- Reviewed:
- Comment: May need copy edit to be more concise, the restaurant part could be dropped but I feel it makes the story more interesting
Nil🥝Talk 01:27, 17 July 2025 (UTC).
Edgewood (Stanleytown, Virginia)
- ... that Edgewood stood vacant for two years before being listed on the National Register of Historic Places?
- Source: Kozelsky, Holly (July 1, 2007). "Preserving History". Martinsville Bulletin. Retrieved July 16, 2025.
Pbritti (talk) 21:26, 16 July 2025 (UTC).
- @Pbritti: I'll do a full review later, but as someone who's familiar with NRHP listings, I don't know if it's interesting that the house was abandoned for two years before being added to the NRHP. It isn't all that rare for formerly-abandoned buildings to be added to the NRHP, especially since the listing didn't take place until several years after it ceased to be abandoned. Are there any other possible hooks? Epicgenius (talk) 13:52, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Epicgenius: thank you for taking this one on! As someone fairly familiar with NRHP listings (and planning to spend more time with them over the next year), I chose this fact because I found it fairly interesting. Looking at today's hooks, I see some facts that revolve around reasonably common occurrences in particular circumstances. If you're more certain that this would lack the requisite "hookiness", I'll do a bit more digging. I'm hoping to plug in some additional information later this week as I have time, so maybe hold off on a full review until Saturday? Best, ~ Pbritti (talk) 14:28, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Pbritti: No problem. I agree that some of these other nominations probably need revision as well (and might comment on these too), though this one caught my eye, since I've definitely nominated articles where nearly the precise thing mentioned in the hook has happened before, like Kings Theatre (Brooklyn) or Seth Peterson Cottage. The reason I say that this may not meet DYK's interestingness criterion is because you can easily write a hook about another abandoned NRHP listing and swap out Edgewood's name with that. I can certainly wait until you add more information, though, before doing a full review. Epicgenius (talk) 14:50, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Epicgenius: I've been a bit distracted for some silly reason. If you are willing to wait until later on Sunday (tomorrow) UTC, I'd greatly appreciate it. If not, I totally understand. Best, ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:24, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oops, I thought I replied to this. @Pbritti: sure, no problem. Take as much time as you need. Epicgenius (talk) 19:44, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Epicgenius: I've been a bit distracted for some silly reason. If you are willing to wait until later on Sunday (tomorrow) UTC, I'd greatly appreciate it. If not, I totally understand. Best, ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:24, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Pbritti: No problem. I agree that some of these other nominations probably need revision as well (and might comment on these too), though this one caught my eye, since I've definitely nominated articles where nearly the precise thing mentioned in the hook has happened before, like Kings Theatre (Brooklyn) or Seth Peterson Cottage. The reason I say that this may not meet DYK's interestingness criterion is because you can easily write a hook about another abandoned NRHP listing and swap out Edgewood's name with that. I can certainly wait until you add more information, though, before doing a full review. Epicgenius (talk) 14:50, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Epicgenius: thank you for taking this one on! As someone fairly familiar with NRHP listings (and planning to spend more time with them over the next year), I chose this fact because I found it fairly interesting. Looking at today's hooks, I see some facts that revolve around reasonably common occurrences in particular circumstances. If you're more certain that this would lack the requisite "hookiness", I'll do a bit more digging. I'm hoping to plug in some additional information later this week as I have time, so maybe hold off on a full review until Saturday? Best, ~ Pbritti (talk) 14:28, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
@Epicgenius: Sorry for yet another ping. I've expanded the article a bit further and propose an ALT1:
- ... that Greek Revival like that of Edgewood was unknown most people in the area surrounding it when it was built?
I'll be adding some more from the news article when I have a half hour free later this week, but those changes will probably be trivial regarding the nomination. Best, ~ Pbritti (talk) 17:30, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Pbritti: No worries about the ping. The general gist of ALT1 looks good, but I'd rephrase it; for example, you can say:
- ALT2: ... that Greek Revival buildings like Edgewood were unknown to most people in the surrounding area when it was built? Epicgenius (talk) 17:47, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- I prefer the above ALT2. Glad you got what I was going for, even with my typos. Thanks! ~ Pbritti (talk) 17:51, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Pbritti: No worries about the ping. The general gist of ALT1 looks good, but I'd rephrase it; for example, you can say:
For ALT2:
General: Article is new enough and long enough |
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Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems |
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall: ALT2 is a rewrite of ALT1, which had grammar errors but is interesting enough. I'm asking for a second opinion since I proposed ALT2 and, thus, can't approve my own hook. Everything else looks good to go. Epicgenius (talk) 19:38, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
HMS Worcestershire
- ... that HMS Worcestershire carried 31 boxes of gold across the Atlantic in 1941?
- Source: "gold shipped during hostilities ... UK-Canada ... HMS Worcestershire 08/02/1941 31 boxes" from Pickford, Nigel (1999). Lost treasure ships of the twentieth century. Washington, D.C. : National Geographic. p. 185. ISBN 978-0-7922-7472-8.
- ALT1: ... that the former luxury passenger liner HMS Worcestershire carried reinforcements across the English Channel on the day after D-Day? Source: "On 7 June 1944, during the invasion of Europe, Devonishire and three other Bibby Line ships, Cheshire, Lancashire and Worcestershire, sailed in line in the English Channel carrying 10,000 troops to the Normandy bridgeheads." from Collard, Ian (15 December 2008). Ships of the Mersey: A Photographic History. Amberley Publishing Limited. pp. 47, 1959. ISBN 978-1-4456-2403-7.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Passage of Tebicuary
Dumelow (talk) 15:54, 16 July 2025 (UTC).
Istana Park
- ... that coconut trees in the Istana Park were the first time a "conscious effort" was made to plant such trees in Downtown Singapore?
- ALT1: ... that the Istana Park was the first time a "conscious effort" was made to plant coconut trees in Downtown Singapore? Source: https://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspapers/digitised/article/straitstimes19950620-1.2.34.1?qt=%22istana%20park%22&q=%22istana%20Park%22
- ALT2: ... that the Istana Park features coconut trees in pools that look like they are "growing in the water"? Source: https://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspapers/digitised/page/straitstimes19931113-1.1.29
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mackenzie Hall
- Comment: May not prefer to run ALT2 as the source it uses was published before the park was opened, though there may be a source that details such info published after the park's opening. Also open to alter any of the above hooks. I shall review some hooks to cut the DYK backlog!
Icepinner (formerly Imbluey2). Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 15:18, 16 July 2025 (UTC).
- Addendum: did not realise I have to provide a seperate QPQ for each nomination, have started to review Template:Did you know nominations/Wycliffe Smith
Articles created/expanded on July 17
[edit]Climate change in Papua New Guinea
- ... that changes in land use and forestry turned Papua New Guinea's contribution to climate change from being a net carbon sink to a net emitter? Source: Chart on page 20
- ALT1: ... that climate change in Papua New Guinea may reduce sweet potato yields by 10%? Source: "It is significant then that a review of multiple studies suggested that sweet potato yields in PNG may decline by as much as 10% by 2050 as a result of changing climate conditions" page 20
- ALT2: ... that climate change in Papua New Guinea may lead to the spread of malaria? Source: Although the present incidence of malaria on small islands is not reported to be high, favorable environmental and social circumstances for the spread of the disease are present in some island regions and are expected to be enhanced under projected changes in climate in Papua New Guinea page 1625
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/European Australian Movement
- Comment: Submission for Papua New Guinea's 50th Independence Anniversary on 16 September 2025
CMD (talk) 15:38, 22 July 2025 (UTC).
Organic Law on the Integrity of Political Parties and Candidates
- ... that the Organic Law on the Integrity of Political Parties and Candidates banned members of parliament from voting against their party line on constitutional issues and budgets? Source: "Under this law, MPs would be penalized if they switched parties. Although MPs could abstain from voting, under OLIPPAC if they voted they had to do so with their party, including on policies on constitutional amendments, budgets and motions of no confidence
- ALT1: ... that the Papua New Guinea Supreme Court ruled that some provisions of the Organic Law on the Integrity of Political Parties and Candidates were "unheard of in any democratic country"? Source: page 505
- ALT2: ... that the Organic Law on the Integrity of Political Parties and Candidates was intended to stop "yo-yo politics"? Source: "Under the OLIPPAC, measures were introduced to counter the fluidity of parliamentary politics which had marked the previous two decades. Popularly known as ‘yo-yo politics’..." page 12
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Diagnostic overshadowing in autism
- Comment: Submission for Papua New Guinea's 50th Independence Anniversary on 16 September 2025
CMD (talk) 15:19, 22 July 2025 (UTC).
KTAB-TV
- ... that an oil rig trailer was used to help build a Texas TV station? Source: https://www.newspapers.com/article/abilene-reporter-news-federal-murphys/136465466/
Sammi Brie (she/her · t · c) 20:29, 20 July 2025 (UTC).
Tarzan Basaruddin
- ... that Tarzan is currently an advisor for higher education? Source: https://kumparan.com/komunitas-sevima/prof-t-basaruddin-dilantik-sebagai-staf-khusus-menteri-kemdiktisaintek-24RREY781QV "Prof. Drs. T. Basaruddin, M.Sc., Ph.D. Dilantik sebagai Staf Khusus Menteri Bidang Pendidikan Tinggi Kemdiktisaintek."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Willie Culpepper
- Comment: Nominated for next year's AFD.
Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 23:35, 18 July 2025 (UTC).
Square
- ... that when viewed in perspective, a square can look like any convex quadrilateral?
- Source: Francis, George K. (1987). A Topological Picturebook. New York: Springer-Verlag. p. 52.
- ALT1: ... that baseball diamonds and boxing rings are square despite being named for other shapes? Source: Baseball: Battista, Michael T. (April 1993). "Mathematics in Baseball". The Mathematics Teacher. 86 (4): 336–342. doi:10.5951/mt.86.4.0336. JSTOR 27968332. See p. 339. Boxing: Chetwynd, Josh (2016). The Field Guide to Sports Metaphors: A Compendium of Competitive Words and Idioms. Ten Speed Press. p. 122
- ALT2: ... that the square shape of a go board symbolizes the earth, with its 361 crossings representing the days of a year? Source: Lang, Ye; Liangzhi, Zhu (2024). "Weiqi: A Game of Wits". Insights into Chinese Culture. Springer Nature Singapore. pp. 469–476. doi:10.1007/978-981-97-4511-1_38. ISBN 9789819745111. See page 472.
- ALT3: ... that squares in graphic design convey a sense of stability, symmetry, and order? Source: Nyamweya, Jeff (2024). Everything Graphic Design: A Comprehensive Understanding of Visual Communications for Beginners & Creatives. Bogano. p. 78. ISBN 9789914371413.
- ALT4: ... that that the surfaces that can be tiled by equal squares include the biscornu, a pincushion formed by sewing the corners of one square to the edge midpoints of another? Source: Seaton, Katherine A. (2021-10-02). "Textile D-forms and D 4d". Journal of Mathematics and the Arts. 15 (3–4): 207–217. arXiv:2103.09649
. doi:10.1080/17513472.2021.1991134.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Rohard the Elder
—David Eppstein (talk) 07:10, 18 July 2025 (UTC).
- FWIW: I don't really like ALT1. A "diamond" is a very common name for a 45° tilted square (or more generally a rhombus with its vertices aligned up–down/left–right – like the card suit ♦), so not an "other shape" at all. (I don't like the claim in the article either.) The source only says that
'A major league baseball "diamond" is officially defined as a 90-foot square.'
Which doesn't really support the claim that the word "diamond" is supposed to mean something else. The New English Dictionary has as a definition for the word "diamond""5. A diamond-shaped figure, i.e. a plane figure of the form of a section of an octahedral diamond; a rhomb (or a square) placed with its diagonals vertical and horizontal; a lozenge. (In early use, a solid body of octahedral or rhombohedral form.)"
, with quotations going back 500 years. –jacobolus (t) 16:04, 18 July 2025 (UTC)- ALT1A ... that boxing rings are square despite their round name? —David Eppstein (talk) 16:45, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- That one would be fine. –jacobolus (t) 17:10, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Regarding ALT1, though: to me, "diamond" as a shape frequently refers to vertically oriented rhombi, with no implication that they are actually square. See e.g. the Black Diamond Equipment logo. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:35, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- The name comes from the octahedral shape of diamonds, and has been routinely used for centuries to include squares oriented that way (as indicated by the NED definition I quoted). For example the original French name of the cards suit was carreau (lit. "square" or "tile"), and it was presumably adapted into English as "diamond" because of the orientation; historically the suit's shape was just a tilted square. –jacobolus (t) 19:06, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- ALT1A ... that boxing rings are square despite their round name? —David Eppstein (talk) 16:45, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
Fountainhead (Jackson, Mississippi)
- ... that a house in Jackson, Mississippi, was named in reference to an Ayn Rand novel? Source: Bernstein, Fred A. (June 13, 2025). "Exclusive; He Saved a Historic Frank Lloyd Wright. His Latest Project: Finding a Buyer for It". The Wall Street Journal. p. M1
- ALT1: ... that a house in Jackson, Mississippi, was named in reference to an Ayn Rand novel, whose main character was reportedly based on the house's architect? Source: Bernstein, Fred A. (June 13, 2025). "Exclusive; He Saved a Historic Frank Lloyd Wright. His Latest Project: Finding a Buyer for It". The Wall Street Journal. p. M1
- ALT2: ... that at the Fountainhead house in Mississippi, shutters and window screens were omitted to make the interior rooms feel like they were outdoors? Source: Sanders, Linda (January 24, 1983). "Fountainhead: A house at home with itself". Clarion-Ledger. pp. 29, 31.
- ALT3: ... that during the construction of Fountainhead in Mississippi, the architect wanted to use stone from the local area but was unable to find an expanse of stone nearby? Source: Storrer, William Allin (1993). The Frank Lloyd Wright Companion. Chicago: University of Chicago Press. p. 316.
- ALT4: ... that Fountainhead, once considered for demolition, was later cited as the most valuable modern-style structure in Mississippi? Source: Ownby, Ted; Wilson, Charles Reagan; Abadie, Ann J.; Lindsey, Odie; Thomas, James G. Jr. (May 25, 2017). The Mississippi Encyclopedia. Univ. Press of Mississippi. pp. 1364–1365; Bernstein, Fred A. (June 13, 2025). "Exclusive; He Saved a Historic Frank Lloyd Wright. His Latest Project: Finding a Buyer for It". The Wall Street Journal. p. M1
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Astoria (turkey)
- Comment: Thanks to LEvalyn for giving me some of the hook ideas
Epicgenius (talk) 03:18, 18 July 2025 (UTC).
Ian Matakis
... that while playing a live event at the 2023 World Series of Poker (WSOP), Ian Matakis played an online WSOP event on his phone, winning his first World Series of Poker bracelet (pictured)?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Semiaquilegia adoxoides
- Comment: 5th of 8 QPQs for this nomination
TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:00, 17 July 2025 (UTC).
Neither hook meets DYKINT as I do not see how either hook as currently written appeals to non-poker fans, or to people unfamiliar with poker terminology. Please suggest new hooks: I have struck both. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:15, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- User:Narutolovehinata5, I don't argue that this article would not get a lot of pageviews. Unless you are a conventionally attractive female poker player who is pictured in the set, there is not likely to be a high viewership. Poker players have comparatively boring bios. A huge percentage of their articles just say they won $X at Y tournament, they won XX event at YY tournament. They often talk about how many bracelets they have won. This seems very mundane. It is very difficult to get significant biographical sketch and just as difficult to find DYK-worthy facts. I can try to rephrase, but there just are not very interesting facts for poker player bios in general.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 21:04, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- This cannot be emphasized enough: not every article is a good fit for DYK, and not every article has information that can work as a hook. There is no shame in not nominating an article if you do not think that there's anything hook-worthy in it. If a page is unlikely to have any DYKINT-compliant information, it is better to just put time and resources into another feasible article than to try and force it into DYK. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:11, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
(ec)ALT2... that Ian Matakis won his first World Series of Poker bracelet (pictured) as a prize for a victorious online World Series of Poker (WSOP) event that he played on his phone during simultaneous participation in an in person WSOP event at the 2023 World Series of Poker?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 22:25, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Not only is the new hook way above the 200 character limit, but it does not at all address the issues with interest that I mentioned above. Please suggest a new hook with a completely new angle; if you are unable to do so, I suggest you just let this one go. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:43, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Are you understanding that he won an international poker championship while competing in two tournaments simultaneously?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:33, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- If that is the point, then it's difficult to parse it from the hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:40, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
- One event was online on his phone and the other was live at a casino. He was competing live at the casino while competing online on his phone in another tournament. I'd love help rephrasing from the perspective of someone who does not know poker.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 13:10, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- If that is the point, then it's difficult to parse it from the hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:40, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 18
[edit]Max-Emmanuel Mader
- ... that German-born French Foreign Legion soldier Max-Emmanuel Mader volunteered to fight against his countrymen when they invaded France in the First World War?
- Source: "Mader was a German ... he was allowed to volunteer to serve on the western front in France against the Germans" from: Lepage, Jean-Denis G. G. (18 April 2016). The French Foreign Legion: An Illustrated History. McFarland. p. 106. ISBN 978-0-7864-6253-7.
- ALT1: ... that German-born Max-Emmanuel Mader became the most-decorated non-commissioned officer in the French Foreign Legion during the First World War? Source: "the most decorated NCO in the Legion during the First World War was Adjutant-Chef Mader" from: Holmes, Richard (1986). Acts of War: The Behavior of Men in Battle. Free Press. p. 293. ISBN 978-0-02-915020-7.
- ALT2: ... that after losing an arm in battle in 1918 Max-Emmanuel Mader recovered consciousness while the last rites were being administered? Source: "His right arm and shoulder were blown away by a German shell. As the last rites were being administered to him in the base hospital, and his imminent death was being mourned by his devoted colleagues, he regained consciousness" from: Gilbert, Martin (5 June 2014). The First World War: A Complete History. Rosetta Books. p. 528. ISBN 978-0-7953-3723-9.
- ALT3: ... that French Foreign Legion veteran Max-Emmanuel Mader pretended to be a deaf mute when France was occupied by Nazi Germany so that he couldn't be identified by his German accent? Source: "After the war the discharged, amputed and married ex-legionary Mader worked as a warden in the Palace of Versailles. All his life, he spoke French with a very strong German accent and, during the occupation of France (1940-1944), pretended to be deaf and dumb to avoid problems with the Nazi police." from: Lepage, Jean-Denis G. G. (18 April 2016). The French Foreign Legion: An Illustrated History. McFarland. p. 106. ISBN 978-0-7864-6253-7.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Harry Potter (TV series)
Dumelow (talk) 16:36, 18 July 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on July 19
[edit]Simón Radowitzky
- ... that Simón Radowitzky (pictured) spent nearly one-third of his life in prison?
- Source: Bayer, Osvaldo (2012) [1991]. Simon Radowitzky and the People's Justice. Berkeley, California: Elephant Editions. p. 27. OCLC 1194606388.
- ALT1: ... that the assassin Simón Radowitzky (pictured) narrowly escaped the death penalty because of his young age? Source: Bayer, Osvaldo (2012) [1991]. Simon Radowitzky and the People's Justice. Berkeley, California: Elephant Editions. p. 16. OCLC 1194606388.
- ALT2: ... that Simón Radowitzky (pictured) was forced to pay a fare for his own deportation? Source: Bayer, Osvaldo (2012) [1991]. Simon Radowitzky and the People's Justice. Berkeley, California: Elephant Editions. pp. 72–73. OCLC 1194606388.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Siege of Shaizar (1157)
Grnrchst (talk) 11:51, 20 July 2025 (UTC).
Mesola red deer
- ... that after World War II, as few as ten Mesola red deer were still alive?
- Source: Zachos, F. E.; Mattioli, S.; Ferretti, F.; Lorenzini, R. (28 October 2013). "The unique Mesola red deer of Italy: taxonomic recognition (Cervus elaphus italicus nova ssp., Cervidae) would endorse conservation". Italian Journal of Zoology. 81 (1): 136–143. doi:10.1080/11250003.2014.895060. Retrieved 19 July 2025.
- ALT1: ... that until 2023, the Mesola red deer survived only in a single woodland in Italy? Source: "Torna in natura il cervo italico al via un progetto per salvarlo" [The Italian deer returns to nature a project to save it is underway]. WWF Italia (in Italian). WWF. 29 March 2023. Retrieved 19 July 2025.
- Reviewed:
Theriocephalus (talk) 14:48, 19 July 2025 (UTC).
- starting review--Kevmin § 18:30, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
Theriocephalus article is new enough and long enough. I have some wording concerns with the Former range section, where its very similar to the source text. For instance "persecution" (were they really persecuted?
Persecution is the systematic mistreatment of an individual or group by another individual or group. The most common forms are religious persecution, racism, and political persecution
or were they mismanaged and overhunted?--Kevmin § 16:47, 21 July 2025 (UTC)- Noted. I've changed "persecution" to "overhunting" for greater specificity, since hunting is mentioned more specifically elsewhere in the text. I've also tweaked some other phrases in the section. User:Theriocephalus (User talk:Theriocephalus) 17:09, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
The Best Sleepover in the World
- ... that Jacqueline Wilson dedicated The Best Sleepover in the World to a mother and daughter pair that helped her learn Makaton through their YouTube videos?
- Source: [41]
- ALT1: ... that writer Jacqueline Wilson worked with Disability Rights UK when writing The Best Sleepover in the World? Source: [42]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hannah Sharts
- Comment: Let me know if I should suggest another hook
DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 16:08, 19 July 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on July 20
[edit]Rhene hexagon
- ... that the spider Rhene hexagon gets its name from the unusual hexagonal pattern found on its abdomen?
- Source: Wiśniewski, Konrad; Wesołowska, Wanda (2024). "Jumping spiders (Salticidae) of Uganda – revised list, new species and distributional data". European Journal of Taxonomy (952): 118. doi:10.5852/ejt.2024.952.2647.
- Reviewed:
simongraham (talk) 07:58, 22 July 2025 (UTC).
Jordan Howlett
- ... that Jordan Howlett, aka Jordan the Stallion, rose from sleeping in his car to amassing millions of followers on TikTok and Instagram and appeared in national ads for State Farm and Alaska Airlines?
- Reviewed:
Issac I Navarro (talk) 20:24, 21 July 2025 (UTC).
Ann Perkins (historian)
- ... that Ann Perkins switched from archaeology to studying classical era art after working with the excavation of the ancient city of Dura-Europos? Source: While at Yale, Dr. Perkins' work on the Dura-Europos material caused a shift in her professional interest from Middle Eastern archaeology to the art history of Greece and Rome. She was particularly involved with the art of the Hellenistic and Roman periods in the eastern Roman empire, but her breadth of knowledge allowed her to teach and write about the arts of all cultures of the Mediterranean basin.
- ALT1: ... that although she could not work as an undergraduate teacher at Yale University as a woman, Ann Perkins often taught graduate students there as an associate professor? Source: In the 1960s, Dr. Perkins' primary appointment at Yale was as a research associate, but she also taught graduate courses in the Department of Classics as an associate professor. At that time, Yale was almost entirely a men's school, and the classics faculty was wholly male, so she was not permitted to instruct undergraduates.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Harriet Converse Moody
ミラP@Miraclepine 16:18, 21 July 2025 (UTC).
Lê Công Vinh: 89th minute
- ... that in the autobiography 89th minute, former footballer Lê Công Vinh (pictured) criticised his teammate for not passing the ball to him?
- Source: [43] (Everyone knows that Tai never passes the ball to me in Binh Duong. I just didn't expect that when he joined the national team, Tai still couldn't put aside his grudge against me to focus on the common goal)
- ALT1: ... that former footballer Lê Công Vinh (pictured) was almost sued by his old teammate because of an autobiography? Source: [44] (Translated title: Le Huynh Duc sues Cong Vinh for writing an autobiography... half-truth?)
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I request a rename of this nomination because the name of the page has been moved right after I submitted it to DYK, I also request the image to be removed per WP:DYKIMG, too.
KhoaNguyen1 (talk) 07:24, 21 July 2025 (UTC).
Chae Chan Ping v. United States
- ... that in Chae Chan Ping v. United States (1889), the United States Supreme Court ruled that courts must defer to Congress and the President in immigration and nationality law?
- Source: In “relations with foreign nations,” the government was one “possessing the powers . . . for protection and security, . . . with authority to determine” when “the powers shall be called forth” and “the occasion” of their use. Congress’s decisions on such matters were “conclusive upon the judiciary” and all U.S. “departments and officers.” They were “not questions for judicial determination.” -Status Manipulation in Chae Chan Ping v. United States
- Reviewed:
ViridianPenguin🐧 (💬) 06:01, 21 July 2025 (UTC).
List of Golf Courses in the United States
- ... that Florida has more golf courses than any other state in the United States, standing at 1,262 courses?
- ALT1: ... that the United States is home to 16,752 golf courses? Source: https://www.golfmonthly.com/courses/how-many-golf-courses-are-there-in-the-world-182153
- Reviewed:
- Comment: My first DYK nomination so please be kind with the feedback.
CNMall41 (talk) 04:44, 21 July 2025 (UTC).
- Comment, not review @CNMall41: this is not yet ready for DYK, the first problem is the article needs 1,500 characters of prose, but it only has 611 at present. I would recommend reading Wikipedia:Did you know/Guidelines, especially the articles and hooks sections. Also the hooks need to include a bold link to the article. TSventon (talk) 06:02, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
- @TSventon:, thanks for the feedback. I was aware of the 1,500 based on the popup, but submitted anyway with the intent of adding the rest right after. My mind got twisted and I went to bed without doing it, so apologies for leaving it open ended like that. I have since expanded and also bolded the hooks based on my reading (which could be wrong) of WP:DYKHOOK. CNMall41 (talk) 17:32, 21 July 2025 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on July 21
[edit]Not for EU
- ... that the "Not for EU" label has nothing to do with the UK not meeting EU food standards?
- ALT1: ... that UK businesses have slammed the "Not for EU" label as it has one of the highest food standards? Source: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/jun/27/ms-boss-slams-bureaucratic-madness-of-products-requiring-not-for-eu-labels
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/United States v. Moore
- Comment: Converted from redirect by me, also had many edits from JMF and Kaihsu. I may add more alt hooks later.
JuniperChill (talk) 09:25, 22 July 2025 (UTC).
- As it stands, the article is a long way short of WP:GA quality. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 12:03, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- This is not a nomination for GA, this is a nomination for DYK. JuniperChill (talk) 12:34, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- usual rule for dyk is that article has achieved ga. Not an absolute rule but certainly improves your chances. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 13:59, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- I looked at Template talk:Did you know and a good portion of nominations are newly created, so its not like most DYKs stem from a GA. The rules are located at Wikipedia:Did you know#Rules. JuniperChill (talk) 14:17, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
Moved from the talk page; an actual review needed by someone who understands WP:DYKNEW.--Launchballer 14:56, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- Correction re GA accepted. But a dyk attracts attention to an article and I think it needs more "self-contained". Would a reader in Minnesota be able to get the essentials without having to read four or five more articles? (Conversely of course, would adding more background movement it to tl;dr territory?)
- Comment 1 I would be concerned by the first DYK as potentially misleading (which is also why it is controversial). It is somewhat economical with the truth to say that it has "nothing to do with EU standards". It is that the product is not warranted to meet EU standards (unlike other UK products intended for export to the EU, which must be.)
- Comment 2 re the Alt, the word slammed is v tabloid headline wording. And a single source, even though it is the CEO of a major retailer, is less than ideal. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 15:54, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- I mean for ALT0, the source says "and it doesn’t relate to products not being up to EU standards". And for Alt1, I have decided to replace the word 'slam' with 'criticise' and to say a UK retailer instead. JuniperChill (talk) 16:27, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- I looked at Template talk:Did you know and a good portion of nominations are newly created, so its not like most DYKs stem from a GA. The rules are located at Wikipedia:Did you know#Rules. JuniperChill (talk) 14:17, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- usual rule for dyk is that article has achieved ga. Not an absolute rule but certainly improves your chances. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 13:59, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- This is not a nomination for GA, this is a nomination for DYK. JuniperChill (talk) 12:34, 22 July 2025 (UTC)
- ALT0a: ... that the "Not for EU" label does not relate to do with the UK not meeting EU food standards?
- ALT1a: ... that a UK retailer have criticised the "Not for EU" label as it has one of the world's highest food standards?
Joseph Buh
- ... that Joseph Buh, the first Catholic priest to hold religious services in White Earth, was called Meshi-dong or 'Long beard' by the Ojibwe?
- Source: Nickname: Coleman, Bernard; LaBud, Verona (1972). Masinaigans-The Little Book: A Biography of Monsignor Joseph F. Buh, Slovenian Missionary in America, 1864-1922. Saint Paul, MN: North Central Publishing Company. p. 238.
To [the Indians] Buh was affectionately called Meshi-dong (the Beard, the Long Beard, or the Bearded One).
; Religious services at White Earth: "Father Buh Receives the Insignia of Monseignor Extended by Leo XIII". Duluth Evening Herald. 27 December 1899. p. 8. Retrieved 10 June 2025.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Alberic II of Spoleto
- Comment: This is, technically, a "first" hook that would require extraordinary sourcing, but the rather unextraordinary nature of the "first" and historical context would have me personally believe the source provided is sufficient.
~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 22:58, 21 July 2025 (UTC).
Duckabush River

- ... that pillow lava can be found along the upper reaches of the Duckabush River even though those structures can only form underwater?
- Source: "Look for pillow structures in basalt (note 25) where the trail hugs cliffs and climbs from what looks to be the postglacial gorge of the Duckabush (note 20) to the upper glaciated valley."
❯❯❯ Mccunicano☕️ 21:26, 21 July 2025 (UTC).
Yi Kŭmch'ŏl
- ... that Yi Kŭmch'ŏl has written approximately one-fifth of all North Korean science fiction literature?
ArtemisiaGentileschiFan (talk) 19:32, 21 July 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on July 22
[edit]Anthology of the Killer
- ... that the Anthology of the Killer series creator improvised its game design by squeezing in more jokes and "arbitrarily" combining in-game locations?
- Source: How General Hospital and Junji Ito lead to the hilarious horrors of Anthology of the Killer https://www.gamedeveloper.com/design/how-general-hospital-and-junji-ito-lead-to-the-hilarious-horrors-of-anthology-of-the-killer
- ALT1: ... that the Anthology of the Killer, a series and collection of nine horror comedy games, won the 2024 Nuovo Award for unconventional game development? Source: Venba wins IGF Grand Prize for 2024 https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/venba-wins-igf-grand-prize-for-2024
'Don't worry! I'm a murderer!' - award-winning comedy Anthology of the Killer is out next week https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/dont-worry-im-a-murderer-award-winning-comedy-anthology-of-the-killer-is-out-next-week
PrimalMustelid (talk) 04:51, 23 July 2025 (UTC).
Aleksandras Olelka
- ... that Aleksandras Olelka was a supporter of the Lithuanian Grand Duke Švitrigaila, but later personally participated in a coup d'état against him?
- Source: the nominated DYK hook is supported by these two sources:
- "1430–31 rėmė Lietuvos didįjį kunigaikštį Švitrigailą per šio kovą su pretendentu į Lietuvos Didžiosios Kunigaikštystės sostą Žygimantu Kęstutaičiu." (English: In 1430–31, he supported the Grand Duke of Lithuania Švitrigaila during his struggle against the pretender to the throne of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania, Sigismund Kęstutaitis; source);
- "Vykdamas į derybas, Švitrigaila su palyda apsistojo nakvynei Ašmenos dvare. 1432 m. rugpjūčio 31 d. naktį iš Alšėnų sąmokslininkai užpuolė Ašmenos dvarą. (...) Iš Žygimanto šalininkų, dalyvavusių tame užpuolime, buvo Alšėnų kunigaikštis Simanas (Sofijos Jogailienės dėdė), Kijevo kng. Aleksandras Olelka Vladimiraitis, rūmų maršalka Jonas Goštautas ir Naugarduko vietininkas Petras Mangirdas." (English: On his way to negotiations, Švitrigaila and his entourage stayed overnight at the Ashmyany Manor. On the night of August 31, 1432, conspirators from Alšėnai attacked the Ashmyany Manor. (...) Among the supporters of Sigismund who participated in that attack were the Duke of Alšėnai Simanas (Sofija Jogailienė's uncle), the Prince of Kiev Aleksandras Olelka Vladimiraitis, the Marshal of the Palace Jonas Goštautas and the Deputy of Novogrudok Petras Mangirdas; pages 21-22 in this source).
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Goodenough Bay
- Comment: This is my eleventh DYK nomination, so I performed QPQ before creating this nomination.
-- Pofka (talk) 21:26, 22 July 2025 (UTC).
Cathedral of Christ the King (Atlanta)
- ... that the dedication ceremony for the Cathedral of Christ the King (pictured) in Atlanta was attended by both the governor of Georgia and an imperial wizard of the Ku Klux Klan?
- Source: Smith 2012, p. 16
JJonahJackalope (talk) 13:32, 22 July 2025 (UTC).
Rendon Labador
- ... that Rendon Labador, a fitness coach and social media personality, was invited to lead a Philippine National Police health program, but was dropped just days later?
- ALT1: ... that Rendon Labador was invited by the Philippine National Police to lead a 93-day fitness program, but his involvement ended abruptly after just a few days? Source: https://mb.com.ph/2025/06/25/na-evict-agad-rendon-labador-out-of-cops-physical-fitness-program-pnp-resumes-pulisteniks
- Reviewed:
AdobongPogi (talk) 12:45, 22 July 2025 (UTC).
Articles created/expanded on July 23
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