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• ... that Mikhl Gordon's song Di bord humorously depicts a woman grieving her husband's shaved beard?

• Source: Roskies, David G. (1999). The Jewish Search for a Usable Past. Bloomington, Indiana: Indiana University Press. p. 99.

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/On Eagles Wings 2

Created by Ploni (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 29 past nominations.

 Ploni^💬  14:51, 8 July 2025 (UTC).

• Unfortunately, while the hook is interesting, it does not meet WP:DYKFICTION as currently written as it is about an in-universe depiction of a fictional event (in this case, it's talking about the in-song woman and her husband's beard). As much as I would like to IAR approve the hook, it would get scrutiny from other editors and would be unlikely to survive. As such, a new hook is needed here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:27, 12 July 2025 (UTC)

• Fair enough—how about one of the following?  Ploni^💬  02:05, 13 July 2025 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that Mikhl Gordon's first collection under his real name wasn't published until 1889, just a year before his death? (Source:  Rosenthal, Herman; Zametkin, M. (1904). "Gordon, Michel". In Singer, Isidore; et al. (eds.). The Jewish Encyclopedia. Vol. 6. New York: Funk & Wagnalls. p. 48.)

ALT2: ... that Yiddish poet Mikhl Gordon was the brother-in-law and early mentor of Hebrew poet Judah Leib Gordon? (Source: Stanislawski, Michael (1988). For Whom Do I Toil?: Judah Leib Gordon and the Crisis of Russian Jewry. Studies in Jewish History. New York: Oxford University Press. pp. 14–17, 162–163.)

• @Narutolovehinata5: Does the above satisfy your concerns? Z1720 (talk) 23:47, 19 July 2025 (UTC)

ALT1 is okay, ALT2 is too specialist and should be rejected. ALT1 should be modified to state what Gordon was: was he a poet or a writer? The lede mentions multiple things. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:49, 19 July 2025 (UTC)

Did you mean something like the following?  Ploni^💬  08:22, 20 July 2025 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that Yiddish poet Mikhl Gordon's first collection under his real name wasn't published until 1889, just a year before his death?

Yes, something like that. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:09, 21 July 2025 (UTC)

OK, please let me know if it is approved, or I will propose another.  Ploni^💬  08:02, 21 July 2025 (UTC)

• Thank you. I was not intending on reviewing this, but merely pointing out the issue with the original hook. This is now ready for a full review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:58, 22 July 2025 (UTC)