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- 30 May 2025 – Andrew Wilson (author, pastor) (talk · edit · hist) was AfDed by Bobby Cohn (t · c); see discussion (2 participants)
- 29 May 2025 – Dean of Kilmacduagh (talk · edit · hist) was AfDed by Samoht27 (t · c); see discussion (4 participants)
- 28 May 2025 – San Pantaleone, Chamois (talk · edit · hist) was AfDed by Dclemens1971 (t · c); see discussion (2 participants)
- 28 May 2025 – Clarksville Christian School (talk · edit · hist) was AfDed by Dclemens1971 (t · c); see discussion (4 participants)
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- 12 May 2025 – Loyola Jesuit College (talk · edit · hist) was AfDed by Iljhgtn (t · c); see discussion (10 participants; relisted)
- 11 May 2025 – Good Day (Forrest Frank song) (talk · edit · hist) was AfDed by UnregisteredBiohazard (t · c); see discussion (5 participants; relisted)
- 23 May 2025 – List of works depicting Jesus as LGBT (talk · edit · hist) AfDed by JayCubby (t · c) was closed as keep by Extraordinary Writ (t · c) on 31 May 2025; see discussion (9 participants)
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Proposed deletions
- 28 May 2025 – Alan Synnott (talk · edit · hist) was PRODed by Guliolopez (t · c): WP:NBIO and WP:SIGCOV are not met. Only claim to notability seems to be as holder of an office/title(?) in the Anglican clergy. And, even if that office/title were notable (and doesn't appear to be), notability would not be inherited by its holde ... and endorsed by Bearian (t · c) on 29 May 2025
- 25 May 2025 – First Baptist Church (Ukiah, California) (talk · edit · hist) was PRODed by Johnny Wishbone (t · c): General notability issues combined with primary source reliance. See Talk page. and endorsed by LimonesMI (t · c) on 29 May 2025
- 19 May 2025 – Woolman Semester (talk · edit · hist) PRODed by Rolluik (t · c) and endorsed by Bearian (t · c) on 20 May 2025 was deproded by Kvng (t · c) on 25 May 2025
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- 28 Sep 2024 – Nicolinas (talk · edit · hist) was GA nominated by V.B.Speranza (t · c); see discussion
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- 03 May 2025 – Grand Duchess Olga Nikolaevna of Russia (talk · edit · hist) was put up for FA review by Z1720 (t · c); see discussion
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- 28 May 2025 – Timothy II of Alexandria (talk · edit · hist) is requested to be moved to Patriarch Timothy II of Alexandria by Nederlandse Leeuw (t · c); see discussion
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- 19 May 2025 – Christ Is Made the Sure Foundation (talk · edit · hist) move request to Blessed city, heavenly Salem by Cnbrb (t · c) was moved to Blessed city, heavenly Salem (talk · edit · hist) by Arbitrarily0 (t · c) on 26 May 2025; see discussion
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- 20 May 2025 – Draft:Michael Iskander (talk · edit · hist) submitted for AfC by Afrowriter (t · c) was accepted to Michael Iskander (talk · edit · hist) by Atlantic306 (t · c) on 26 May 2025
- 19 May 2025 – Draft:Solomon Kinloch Jr. (talk · edit · hist) submitted for AfC by Detroithistory1 (t · c) was accepted to Solomon Kinloch Jr. (talk · edit · hist) by Atlantic306 (t · c) on 26 May 2025
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[edit]- Andrew Wilson (author, pastor) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable biography with no coverage in independent sources that fails NAUTHOR. Most coverage is primary and awards do not arise to the significance of ANYBIO. Bobby Cohn 🍁 (talk) 14:23, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Keep Weakly squeaks by on WP:AUTHOR I think. I've added reviews of his books to the article, not all of his books are even listed yet or all of the reviews. Article should probably be moved to "Andrew Wilson (pastor)" rather than using a double disambiguator. Jahaza (talk) 16:11, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
- Also, the Christianity.com article[1] appears to be an independent source. The site is owned by Salem Media Group. Jahaza (talk) 17:00, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Dean of Kilmacduagh (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NLIST, topic is not independently notable from the monastery, and any needed information could be merged to the primary Kilmacduagh monastery article. -Samoht27 (talk) 05:16, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge. One and done, right? Hyperbolick (talk) 05:40, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- Merge. It should be merged to Kilmacduagh monastery. Fade258 (talk) 08:24, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- Merge with Kilmacduagh monastery: No reason for this to be a standalone page. Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:31, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- Redirect to a section of Kilmacduagh monastery. Or, failing that, simply delete. While I understand the "merge" recommendations, I note that the bulk of this title (effectively a standalone list article) is uncited. And, if that content is merged in its current form, it would be unsupported. If the outcome is merge/redirect, then the merging editor will need to find sources for the merged "list of names" content (coz it's currently uncited). Guliolopez (talk) 13:23, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
- San Pantaleone, Chamois (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not seeing a WP:GNG pass for this small Italian church. The article's only sources are a local tourism website and a history on the comune's website, which would be a WP:PRIMARYSOURCE. Didn't find anything else in my WP:BEFORE search, although if independent, secondary WP:SIGCOV is found please ping me. A BLAR was contested so seeking consensus for a redirect to Roman_Catholic_Diocese_of_Aosta or a similarly appropriate target. Dclemens1971 (talk) 20:19, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Merge or redirect to Chamois, Aosta Valley, where the content would serve a useful purpose.
Nom is being too picky in terms of sourcing IMO.Ingratis (talk) 10:41, 29 May 2025 (UTC) I put that very badly. What I was getting at was that although the sourcing is inadequate for a standalone article, as nom says, it should be enough for a redirect to the comune article to support a single sentence to the effect that the parish church, of which there is already a picture, is dedicated to San Pantaleone (the same could be supported from other sources). I don't see much point in redirecting to the diocese article, since the parish is not mentioned there. Ingratis (talk) 17:03, 29 May 2025 (UTC)- Thank you for clarifying. I am OK with a merge to your proposed target as well and I agree that the sources are valid for such a purpose. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:06, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- I've added a brief para based on a different source and don't see any harm in adding a little information from the comune website - after all, the comune dosn't run the church. 08:34, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for clarifying. I am OK with a merge to your proposed target as well and I agree that the sources are valid for such a purpose. Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:06, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
- Merge, especially since, as an article it should be renamed "Saint Pantaleon parish church" as quoted by the English version of the main source. --Simoncik84 (talk) 07:44, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
- There is an established convention - albeit a rather silly one IMO for many reasons, including that apart from anything else it doesn't follow the Italian convention - for names of Italian churches, which the present article follows. Ingratis (talk) 08:34, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
- In the case of this church, it should bear both names, since it is located in a region that is officially bilingual. Furthermore, it's worth noting that "San Pantaleone", just like "Saint Pantaléon" in French, is merely the name of the patron saint of the church — not the name of the church itself. --Simoncik84 (talk) 12:50, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
- Point 1 - no particular opinion. Point 2 - thanks for stating the obvious, which I'd agree with; you're more than welcome to argue about it with the supporters of the long-standing naming convention. Since the article seems unlikely to remain as a standalone, however, it scarcely matters. Ingratis (talk) 15:25, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
- In the case of this church, it should bear both names, since it is located in a region that is officially bilingual. Furthermore, it's worth noting that "San Pantaleone", just like "Saint Pantaléon" in French, is merely the name of the patron saint of the church — not the name of the church itself. --Simoncik84 (talk) 12:50, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
- There is an established convention - albeit a rather silly one IMO for many reasons, including that apart from anything else it doesn't follow the Italian convention - for names of Italian churches, which the present article follows. Ingratis (talk) 08:34, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
- Clarksville Christian School (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not seeing a WP:GNG pass for this private school in Tennessee. Sources are:
- The school's own publications/websites/channels and thus not independent ([2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7])
- Online directory/database pages ([8], [9], [10], [11], [12])
- Regurgitated press releases (article, identical release, [13])
- An article in the Christian Chronicle, which is affiliated with the school's denomination and thus not independent.
- A random link that doesn't validate the claim it purports to.
- A WP:TRIVIALMENTION on the school's accreditor (and thus not independent) [14]
- Other WP:PRIMARYSOURCES: [15], [16].
I didn't find any other GNG-qualifying sources in my WP:BEFORE search. The page creator unilaterally removed maintenance tags for notability, promotional language and third-party sourcing without coming close to addressing the problems, so rather than edit-war over a tag, I am going to AfD as the next step. Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:54, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
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- While I acknowledge that many of the currently cited sources are affiliated with the school or its denomination, there are also independent, reliable local media sources covering Clarksville Christian School that demonstrate its notability. For example, Clarksville Now and The Leaf-Chronicle have reported on CCS’s accreditation milestones, scholarship achievements, and athletics, providing substantive coverage beyond routine directory listings or press releases. Additionally, local news outlets have covered CCS events and student accomplishments in a way that goes beyond trivial mention.
- I am actively working to incorporate these independent third-party sources into the article to strengthen its verifiability and comply with WP:GNG. I respectfully request additional time to improve the article with these reliable sources before any deletion actions are taken. GatewayPolitics (talk) 03:02, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- Also you could have taken these concerns to my talk page before taking this step. GatewayPolitics (talk) 03:04, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- (You could also have taken your perspective to a talk page before unilaterally removing the maintenance tags on a page you created. Your removal of them is what prompted me to do a WP:BEFORE search that turned up no qualifying sources.) Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:18, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- Those articles I saw in my BEFORE search; they all appear to be based on or just reprints of press releases from the school. I have not seen anything that constitutes WP:SIGCOV in an independent, reliable, and secondary source. Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:14, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- I hear what you’re saying about the sources, and I understand the importance of meeting WP:SIGCOV. That said, I think tagging or taking further steps without any prior discussion — especially when some effort was clearly made to include sources — feels a bit premature. A quick note on the talk page could’ve opened the door for collaboration rather than escalation. I’m still open to improving the sourcing if better material exists, but I think we should be careful not to rush into cleanup actions without first giving editors a chance to respond. GatewayPolitics (talk) 03:18, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- Deletion discussions run 7 days so you have plenty of time. If you supply sources that pass the test of GNG, the page will be kept. Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:19, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Dclemens1971 I have cleaned it up. Any other things that need to be changed? GatewayPolitics (talk) 03:44, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- I still don't see any sources that support notability. The Clarksville Now piece appears to be based on a pair of press releases from the school ([17], [18]) and the Leaf-Chronicle link is to a "subscribe" page. Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:53, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- Well, I changed it a bit more and I believe that the article is good and is notable enough. I will have to see other opinions, and will respect the outcome. GatewayPolitics (talk) 04:04, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- I would say the Leaf-Chronicle article is independent WP:SIGCOV of the school but the Austin Peay State University piece isn't; it's focused on its alumnus Hassell and trivially mentions the school. That's one source toward GNG; remember, we need multiple GNG-qualifying sources. Dclemens1971 (talk) 13:14, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- Well, I changed it a bit more and I believe that the article is good and is notable enough. I will have to see other opinions, and will respect the outcome. GatewayPolitics (talk) 04:04, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- I still don't see any sources that support notability. The Clarksville Now piece appears to be based on a pair of press releases from the school ([17], [18]) and the Leaf-Chronicle link is to a "subscribe" page. Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:53, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Dclemens1971 I have cleaned it up. Any other things that need to be changed? GatewayPolitics (talk) 03:44, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- Deletion discussions run 7 days so you have plenty of time. If you supply sources that pass the test of GNG, the page will be kept. Dclemens1971 (talk) 03:19, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- I hear what you’re saying about the sources, and I understand the importance of meeting WP:SIGCOV. That said, I think tagging or taking further steps without any prior discussion — especially when some effort was clearly made to include sources — feels a bit premature. A quick note on the talk page could’ve opened the door for collaboration rather than escalation. I’m still open to improving the sourcing if better material exists, but I think we should be careful not to rush into cleanup actions without first giving editors a chance to respond. GatewayPolitics (talk) 03:18, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- Also you could have taken these concerns to my talk page before taking this step. GatewayPolitics (talk) 03:04, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- Draftify - the page creator has requested additional time to source the article, so it can be done in draft space and then submitted to Articles for Creation when it is ready. Stockhausenfan (talk) 08:55, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- Draftify - I support allowing the editor time and space to get this article in shape. — Maile (talk) 23:10, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- Draftify or Delete. This article is not sourced appropriately and is written in a promotional tone, but I can see the potential for keeping it in draft space to let the author have more time to build out sources. I found a couple of regional newspaper articles that *might* be enough, but it's a long shot and the author will need to do a lot of work to get it an appropriate level of sourcing to support notability. nf utvol (talk) 23:37, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
- Proclaim! (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable local television program; no independent in-depth sources found online ForsythiaJo (talk) 01:59, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete: Non-notable. Very local niche show. — Itzcuauhtli11 (talk) 03:49, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Pope Benedict XV and Russia (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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This article would be better off as simply a subheading of the Diplomatic agenda section of the main article, but merging it does not seem viable because it is simply not up to encyclopedic standards. The talk page reveals possible copyvio issues as well. It appears to be substantially the same as it was in 2009.
If this article is not to be deleted/merged, it would need to be completely rewritten by someone with subject expertise or at least competence. M.A.Spinn (talk) 20:03, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete per WP:TNT and WP:V. As written, we can't verify anything. Was this written by a chat bot? It's too much of an essay, and the citation format is unique at best. Bearian (talk) 01:48, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete or not opposed to draftify to improve the citations issue not being readily verifiable.Lorraine Crane (talk) 17:41, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - There is a problem with sourcing. There is a lot of synthesis even though the topic is knowledgeable but not encyclopaedic enough. I cannot think about TNT, because this topic does not need an article in the first place. Segaton (talk) 12:15, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- Loyola Jesuit College (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Seems to lack WP:SIGCOV and has had WP:PROMO edits. In WP:BEFORE did not find reliable sources such that WP:GNG fails here. Iljhgtn (talk) 02:36, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Schools, Christianity, and Nigeria. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 03:19, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- Very week keep The promo in the past is true but I think the school barely makes the cut. Google used to be bad in covering African news sources in their indexing process but I don't know if that is still the case. If so, there should be untapped sources available on paper but not on the internet. The Banner talk 11:19, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- Not that I can find in my Wikipedia:BEFORE. If you find enough for coverage, I could withdraw my nomination, but I did not find much on this "college". Iljhgtn (talk) 18:56, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete lacks the notability required by the general notability rules. No sign of notability and no good media sources could be found.--Amlikdi (talk) 07:08, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Check the References list now. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 06:00, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete I do not think this meets the WP:GNG and lacks WP:SIGCOV, we would need more sources to bolster inclusion. Gjb0zWxOb (talk) 14:15, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Check the article now please. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 05:59, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- keep this case is different from all the other WP:ROTM local high schools, according to local sources this is one of the top (or the top) schools in the country. See this report in Business Day and this source linked in the article [19]. There is some coverage in this book spanning almost a full page 282. Given the amount of coverage available online and its clear standing locally, as well as all the coverage about the plane crash, this should pass WP:NSCHOOL. --hroest 20:43, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- "report in Business Day"? That is a weak listicle at best. Not notable. Iljhgtn (talk) 01:57, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Strong Keep: I think it is better that editors mention that they did no BEFORE on an article than saying suh when nothing was done. I was just looking at these mountain of sources: on Google Scholar, Google books, Archived newspapers, and news websites. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 22:24, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- Those are not sources ABOUT the college, but are mere passing mentions in some academic citations. Nothing in your so called "mountain of source" [sic] makes this notable. Iljhgtn (talk) 01:55, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Iljhgtn, please show me the sources that are not reliable or independent. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 19:41, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Looked at them again, tell me please which of them ARE in fact good for establishing notability as reliable and independent! There is no way this article passes GNG. and it has NOT been "greatly improved since...nomination" at all. Iljhgtn (talk) 20:37, 22 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Iljhgtn, please show me the sources that are not reliable or independent. Safari ScribeEdits! Talk! 19:41, 17 May 2025 (UTC)
- Those are not sources ABOUT the college, but are mere passing mentions in some academic citations. Nothing in your so called "mountain of source" [sic] makes this notable. Iljhgtn (talk) 01:55, 16 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep: The article has been greatly improved since its nomination, to pass WP:ORGCRIT and meet WP:GNG. King ChristLike (talk) 05:40, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
- That is simply not true... more junk has been added, but it has not been improved or made notable. Look at the sources. Iljhgtn (talk) 17:32, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Weak Keep: The article doesn't seem to violate WP:PROMO as a whole, and it seems to have enough content and references to merit keeping it. The issue is there isn't much legitimate notability, a simple google search leads to less than 1 page of results. Ashwin060 (talk) 23:33, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
- Good Day (Forrest Frank song) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Redirect to Child of God (album). Despite charting, the song is not covered in reliable sources, thus failing WP:NSONG. UnregisteredBiohazard (what i do • what did i do now?) 04:23, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Albums and songs and Christianity. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 06:51, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: There is a passing mention in a Billboard article [20] but that's about it for WP:RS. UnregisteredBiohazard (what i do • what did i do now?) 17:54, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: I increased the amount of secondary sources in the article, if that's what you're requesting.
- 01:26, 12 May 2025 (UTC) Javajourney (talk) 01:26, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for adding more. However, I'm not sure if most of the sources are WP:RS. UnregisteredBiohazard (what i do • what did i do now?) 15:23, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: I increased the amount of secondary sources in the article, if that's what you're requesting.
- Comment: There is a passing mention in a Billboard article [20] but that's about it for WP:RS. UnregisteredBiohazard (what i do • what did i do now?) 17:54, 11 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Per Above Destinyokhiria (talk) 13:25, 13 May 2025 (UTC)
- Since this song won a Dove Award (which would help it meet WP:NSONG criteria), I withdraw this nomination. UnregisteredBiohazard (what i do • what did i do now?) 17:20, 15 May 2025 (UTC)
- Keep song has won an award and was nominated for another two. Some sources in the article don't seem reliable. I removed a striking one. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 06:36, 18 May 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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