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July 7
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July 7, 2025
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Armed conflicts and attacks
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July 6
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July 6, 2025
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July 5
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July 5, 2025
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RD: Mark Snow
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety
Credits:
- Nominated by Florian Blaschke (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: American soundtrack composer, creator of the X-Files theme. Florian Blaschke (talk) 08:46, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Not ready Currently orange tagged. 83.187.162.155 (talk) 10:12, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
RD: Din Muhammad
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): DAWN
Credits:
- Nominated by Ainty Painty (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Pakistani wrestler and first gold medallist Ainty Painty (talk) 04:18, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose article is too short, barely more than a stub- and even that has cn tags. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:48, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose Not enough content or sourcing. QuicoleJR (talk) 00:33, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
(Posted) July 2025 Central Texas floods
[edit]Blurb: Floods across Central Texas, United States, leave at least 51 people dead and 27 missing. (Post)
News source(s): NYT
Credits:
- Nominated by ArionStar (talk · give credit)
- Created by EF5 (talk · give credit)
Nominator's comments: Unusual catastrophic event in US. ArionStar (talk) 01:26, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
Oppose with an asterisk - Not particularly significant (we had deadlier floods in February that weren't posted) and not up to quality. I would support if the death toll rises above 35, which is what I generally consider the minimum death toll needed for weather events to be considered "significant". Note that a search for 23 missing children at a summer camp is underway, with no indication of their whereabouts, so there is unfortunately a non-zero chance it passes that margin. If the toll does reach over 35 please ping me so I can change my !vote; I'll be improving the article tomorrow so quality isn't a big issue.EF5 01:29, 5 July 2025 (UTC)- The death toll has reached 25 per ongoing press conference. — EF5 02:31, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Changing my vote to support - two of the 23-25 children missing have been found (both have been killed), and are beginning to be called "victims" by news outlets. Article quality looks good; ORES shows "GA". 100-year flood with devastating impacts. — EF5 13:24, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support Seems to be at the level of significance where we would post. Noah, BSBATalk 19:26, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support in principle, but
not ready in article quality. Needs a bit more meat on the bones.Will check back later today to see where things are. -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:59, 5 July 2025 (UTC)- Side note to my above; I'm not wowed by the proposed image. I can't really see anything w/o enlarging it, and even then, it's not much. -Ad Orientem (talk) 05:02, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Ad Orientem, what about File:Major surge of the Guadalupe River in Kerrville, Texas - July 4, 2025.webm? — EF5 13:38, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- That's the one that I was referring to. That aside, the article is now of adequate quality for posting so I Support... -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:23, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Ad Orientem, what about File:Major surge of the Guadalupe River in Kerrville, Texas - July 4, 2025.webm? — EF5 13:38, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Side note to my above; I'm not wowed by the proposed image. I can't really see anything w/o enlarging it, and even then, it's not much. -Ad Orientem (talk) 05:02, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- What if this was focused on Tropical Storm Barry (2025) which is fleshed out and removes the focus on just the US where there were impacts? Masem (t) 05:07, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Masem, the floods were caused (technically) by the "remnants" of Barry, so the storm itself only had a marginal role. Could have also been caused by another storm that formed nearby. See the talk page. — EF5 12:18, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
Oppose unless the death toll rises, per EF5. I do think that this is some of the worst localized regional devastation seen in the US since the Kentucky floods a few years back and may warrant posting in the future if and when they rise to that level. Departure– (talk) 05:10, 5 July 2025 (UTC)Maintaining my oppose and upgrading to strong oppose on quality until we get more concrete and consistent figures for the death toll. Blurb says 35 and the article says 30+. Departure– (talk) 20:21, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Departure–: Fixed; death toll is currently 30 (with 37 more missing). Do you have any quality-related concerns on the article itself? That's what the "at least" is for in the blurb anyways... EF5 20:32, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Changing to support - quality is fine, and the death toll per the article is 43 (should be specified in the blurb, though). That's very significant for this part of the world, and it's fair to say its effects are enough for international concern. Departure– (talk) 23:15, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Departure–: Fixed; death toll is currently 30 (with 37 more missing). Do you have any quality-related concerns on the article itself? That's what the "at least" is for in the blurb anyways... EF5 20:32, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support in principle, but oppose image. Article needs improvement for sure, but this is a very big flood event with 100-year flooding events occurring across central and west Texas. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 06:55, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- For full clarity, I have no problem with quality now and thus support the posting, but I still wouldn't support changing the image to be for this hook as I have yet to see any good visual that is appropriate. -bɜ:ʳkənhɪmez | me | talk to me! 09:56, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Wait There is no need to rush to post and I think we can wait to post/nominate again until it starts to subside and we have a more final impact of the flooding. 83.187.162.155 (talk) 10:10, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Hurricane Noah: @Ad Orientem: @Berchanhimez: I've expanded the article and ORES now shows GA quality. Do y'all retain your votes (at least on quality)? — EF5 13:16, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support These floods seem significant enough to post, and the article is of sufficient quality. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:22, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
Weak oppose Unfortunately I don't think a flood like this is significant enough to post due to the death toll. From what I've seen in ITN, floods usually need to have around 100 or more deaths to be posted and unless the death toll rises quite a bit this flood should be no different. Quality is good and if this does get posted we need a better image.harrz talk 20:15, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Harrz: 100 deaths? Who the heck said that? I've seen weather events with 25 deaths get posted; this is by far the deadliest flood ever in this region. EF5 20:19, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- No one said that, that's just what I've seen. The 2025 Mokwa flood got posted, as did the 2024 Spanish floods, both with over 200 deaths. The July–August 2022 United States floods also got posted with 44 deaths, however the 2025 Bolivia floods (50+ deaths), floods from the February 2025 North American storm complex (18 deaths) and 2024 Yemen floods (61+ deaths) were nominated but not posted. Like I said, if the death toll rises I would support it, but at the moment 27 just isn't significant enough. harrz talk 20:31, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- There’s now 43 confirmed fatalities, one less than the August 2022 floods. Is that enough? Note WP:MINIMUMDEATHS, which is what your argument seems to be based on. EF5 23:11, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Changing to support - article is of good quality and seems to meet WP:ITNSIGNIF now. Definitely don't think this image should be used though. harrz talk 01:21, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- There’s now 43 confirmed fatalities, one less than the August 2022 floods. Is that enough? Note WP:MINIMUMDEATHS, which is what your argument seems to be based on. EF5 23:11, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- No one said that, that's just what I've seen. The 2025 Mokwa flood got posted, as did the 2024 Spanish floods, both with over 200 deaths. The July–August 2022 United States floods also got posted with 44 deaths, however the 2025 Bolivia floods (50+ deaths), floods from the February 2025 North American storm complex (18 deaths) and 2024 Yemen floods (61+ deaths) were nominated but not posted. Like I said, if the death toll rises I would support it, but at the moment 27 just isn't significant enough. harrz talk 20:31, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Harrz: 100 deaths? Who the heck said that? I've seen weather events with 25 deaths get posted; this is by far the deadliest flood ever in this region. EF5 20:19, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support - Article is ready. Worldwide coverage, front page in many outlets. Morogris (✉ • ✎) 20:41, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support per Morogris. This is not normal and we do not do WP:MINIMUMDEATHS. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:42, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support per Morogris. Sheesh, just post it already. Jusdafax (talk) 23:31, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support The death toll is up to 47 and is deadlier than the 2022 Kentucky floods, and also the article isn't a stub anymore. Hoguert (talk) 23:44, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support due to the huge impact of these floods and the wide coverage in reliable sources. Pawnkingthree (talk) 23:47, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: Unless a random tornado outbreak happened under my nose this is now the deadliest meteorological event in the U.S. in 2925, surpassing the March 13-16 tornado outbreak. EF5 23:59, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- 900 years early, pal. I wonder what kind of outbreaks we'll get in 2925, given nearly a millenium of peak climate change and/or ensuing mitigation. Departure– (talk) 02:15, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- I hate mobile editing. Really though, this is the deadliest US meteorological event in 2025, surpassing the death toll of both the May 16 and March 14-15 tornado outbreaks, both of which I’m sure you’re familiar with. EF5 14:27, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- If we were to post the top meteorological event for each country - especially in this time of increased extreme events - we'd have always one or two on the ticker. While a 100-year event at any location is rare; there's always 100-year events in a year in some part of North America - especially with the tendency to very localized very extreme events in this temperate region.
- That said - this should have been posted. But the other two events? This is why we should be more discerning about bias towards posting news from privileged nations - even those as still as privileged as the USA. Nfitz (talk) 22:54, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- And both events were deemed significant enough to post. EF5 23:07, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- They should not have been. While it's an undisputed tragedy for those involved, events of that scale are tragically commonplace world wide and unlike the Texas floods they don't seem remarkable. The two tornadoes were not at the top of ITN at the time of posting which might have meant they went under the radar a bit. — Amakuru (talk) 23:22, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Regardless, I was using them as an example or what we have posted in relation to this, which is as of right now over twice as deadly. Now if we’d stop arguing about events over two months old and focus on what is currently one of the deadliest USWx events of the 2020s… EF5 23:24, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Many events similar to the other US storms get a lot less news coverage in their own countries press. When I lived in South East Asia, during the rainy season the regular occurrence of one or two kids being washed away in the gutter at the side of the street didn't even get local coverage, especially if they were kids from a kampung. That's not the case in privileged nations. Though I expect that will change in the USA with their decisions to significantly cut funding for FEMA and NOAA, and all sorts of things that help to ameliorate such tragedy. Nfitz (talk) 06:20, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Regardless, I was using them as an example or what we have posted in relation to this, which is as of right now over twice as deadly. Now if we’d stop arguing about events over two months old and focus on what is currently one of the deadliest USWx events of the 2020s… EF5 23:24, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- I hate mobile editing. Really though, this is the deadliest US meteorological event in 2025, surpassing the death toll of both the May 16 and March 14-15 tornado outbreaks, both of which I’m sure you’re familiar with. EF5 14:27, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- 900 years early, pal. I wonder what kind of outbreaks we'll get in 2925, given nearly a millenium of peak climate change and/or ensuing mitigation. Departure– (talk) 02:15, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: Unless a random tornado outbreak happened under my nose this is now the deadliest meteorological event in the U.S. in 2925, surpassing the March 13-16 tornado outbreak. EF5 23:59, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Posted Stephen 03:38, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
July 4
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July 4, 2025
(Friday)
Disasters and accidents
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(Reviewers needed) RD: Richard Greenberg
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety
Credits:
- Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:3DAE:9F64:8CA:44FD (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Sunshineisles2 (talk · give credit) and HM2021 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: American playwright and 2003 Tony winner. His death announced on this date. 240F:7A:6253:1:3DAE:9F64:8CA:44FD (talk) 14:50, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment - The article prose is decently written and sourced throughout, and is ready, in my view. The problem is the big number of citations missing in the lists of his prolific works. Jusdafax (talk) 07:50, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
RD: Peter Russell-Clarke
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-07-06/peter-russell-clarke-dies-aged-89/105500112
Credits:
- Nominated by HiLo48 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Generally considered Australia's first celebrity chef HiLo48 (talk) 05:28, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose orange tagged. Joseph2302 (talk) 21:15, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- User:Joseph2302 - That tag has only just been added, without any explanation. The content looks adequate to me. HiLo48 (talk) 03:21, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
(Reviewers needed) RD: Lyndon Byers
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NHL.com
Credits:
- Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:DD74:7980:EFE0:38A6 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Canadian ice hockey player and radio host. 240F:7A:6253:1:DD74:7980:EFE0:38A6 (talk) 05:23, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
RD: Bobby Jenks
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:
- Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
– Muboshgu (talk) 21:17, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support Well-written and well-sourced. Jusdafax (talk) 23:55, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support Adequately written and sufficiently referenced. Easy to read and understand. Abebenjoe (talk) 23:58, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Date and place of birth are both unreferenced. Schwede66 02:09, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- A new footnote for the date and place of birth has been added to the Early life section. --PFHLai (talk) 06:08, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
(Closed) Oasis Live '25 Tour
[edit]The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Blurb: The 41-date global tour marking the reunion of English rock band Oasis begins at the Principality Stadium in Cardiff, Wales. (Post)
News source(s): The NME
Credits:
- Nominated by Morgajon (talk · give credit)
- Oppose This is just average music tours, its not even on ITNR and I dont event think this is notable for ITN. Shaneapickle (talk) 20:50, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- How does "biggest concert launch ever seen in the UK and Ireland" even remotely fit the description "average music tour"? And why would a one off event be considered a "recurring event"? That makes no sense. Morgajon (talk) 21:06, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- First of all, we dont post anything like this and havent for years, and what i mean by average, is that bands go on tour EVERY YEAR. so thats what average means in this scenario. Shaneapickle (talk) 21:13, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not sure you've understood the significance of *this* tour then. What makes it different from the everyday. If your point is that no tours should be posted ever, just say that. It's not a very good argument, but it would at least be clear what you were trying to say. Morgajon (talk) 21:42, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Do you have a Conflict of interest? about this because it seems you do. Shaneapickle (talk) 21:49, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- I have no connection to the band or this tour whatsoever. And I don't appreciate being accused of such a thing on such a thin pretext. It's well known that Wikipedia does not tolerate such things. Morgajon (talk) 22:20, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Well just editing 2 pages, for the same thing is whats known as a COI. Shaneapickle (talk) 22:35, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- No it is not. Morgajon (talk) 22:43, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Well just editing 2 pages, for the same thing is whats known as a COI. Shaneapickle (talk) 22:35, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- I have no connection to the band or this tour whatsoever. And I don't appreciate being accused of such a thing on such a thin pretext. It's well known that Wikipedia does not tolerate such things. Morgajon (talk) 22:20, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Do you have a Conflict of interest? about this because it seems you do. Shaneapickle (talk) 21:49, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not sure you've understood the significance of *this* tour then. What makes it different from the everyday. If your point is that no tours should be posted ever, just say that. It's not a very good argument, but it would at least be clear what you were trying to say. Morgajon (talk) 21:42, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- First of all, we dont post anything like this and havent for years, and what i mean by average, is that bands go on tour EVERY YEAR. so thats what average means in this scenario. Shaneapickle (talk) 21:13, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- How does "biggest concert launch ever seen in the UK and Ireland" even remotely fit the description "average music tour"? And why would a one off event be considered a "recurring event"? That makes no sense. Morgajon (talk) 21:06, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose I suppose there aren't many tours whose opening night gets liveblogged by multiple broadcasters including the BBC [3], but I don't think it really rises to the level we need for ITN. Black Kite (talk) 21:04, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- What would be the level then? Or are you saying a concert tour can never be significant enough for Wikipedia's current events listing? Morgajon (talk) 21:08, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Morgajon It seems since you are a new user here (somehow you managed to atleast figure out the ITN) Current events does not post tours, they post political, health, and other current events. Shaneapickle (talk) 21:15, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- "Current events does not post tours". If you're referring to a rule, I can't find it. If you're making an argument from precedent, that makes no sense, given the lack of any similar tours since Wikipedia has been online. Morgajon (talk) 21:51, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- There isn't a rule as such but entertainment news (beyond ITNR awards etc.) is generally avoided at ITN unless the event is highly significant. I don't think Oasis going on renewal tour counts towards that (The Eras Tour, much bigger commercially, wasn't featured either). Gotitbro (talk) 21:52, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Obviously I came here to make the case this tour is highly significant. It's worth noting that it has already been the cause of controversy over demand pricing, seized on gleefully by politicians. Morgajon (talk) 22:25, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Look at the amount of opposes, on your entry. Thats what I call ✨✨Consensus✨✨/ Shaneapickle (talk) 22:34, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Obviously I came here to make the case this tour is highly significant. It's worth noting that it has already been the cause of controversy over demand pricing, seized on gleefully by politicians. Morgajon (talk) 22:25, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Would have to wonder then if then Live Aid would have made it onto ITN if the Wiki had existed in 1985. I would think it would barely get on, but the argument would be less about the shows most likely, but more about the "expected viewing public" and maybe the feat that is was with the satellites of the time. TheCorriynial (talk) 21:57, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- I'm seeing nothing here that even gurantees Live Aid would be given a fair hearing, if it happened today. Even though in hindsight (and it would have been abundantly obvious at the time), that was a highly significant event just in terms of significance as a concert. Namely the sheer number of bands and the massive interest solely in the musical aspects of the "event" (set list, air time, direction). I suspect music is just off the table here as a rule. They'd probably view even something like the Knebworth Oasis concerts as run of the mill, happily ignoring clear proof of significance - When Oasis played there in 1996, more than 2% of the UK population applied for tickets, which sold out in under 24 hours. For this tour, that figure rose to 5% and sold out in minutes. I don't think anyone here has the first clue why reputable news sources like the BBC would focus on such things. Morgajon (talk) 23:16, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Morgajon It seems since you are a new user here (somehow you managed to atleast figure out the ITN) Current events does not post tours, they post political, health, and other current events. Shaneapickle (talk) 21:15, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- What would be the level then? Or are you saying a concert tour can never be significant enough for Wikipedia's current events listing? Morgajon (talk) 21:08, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose - Moderately big music news, but it's not all that huge a deal. We didn't post the Eras Tour; I don't foresee us posting this. GenevieveDEon (talk) 21:48, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Other than sales, how is Eras even remotely comparable in terms of musical/cultural significance? That's a solo artist from the 2000s performing with relative continuity. This a 90s band coming back from an acrimonious split to perform again after 16 years. Taylor Swift has a long way to go before she has audiences evenly split between a generation of fans who saw her perform live at her peak, and the kids who came to her through their parent's musical tastes. Or in a sign of Oasis' significance, through a general awareness of the cultural fabric of the nation. Of which "Britpop" is a huge part (hence the unprecedented demand now). Morgajon (talk) 22:09, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Strong oppose - A series of concerts? Really? Falls far short of WP:ITNSIGNIF. — EF5 22:15, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Based on what? If you're referring to "The consensus among those discussing the event is all that is necessary to decide if an event is significant enough for posting." then quite obviously there is agreement. But if you were referring to the rest, I don't know how anyone else isn't seeing significance. This reunion tour has been reported on by the highest possible news sources, in great detail, across hundreds of individual pieces, right across the globe. I personally think all that's happened here is that for whatever reason, people think "current events" shouldn't include anything related to concert tours, and that's that. So they're not going to listen to any attempt to show them this tour has reached breakout to become a legitimate national news story and all round cultural moment, much less why. The fact people seem to think it is comparable to Eras shows how little they've actually thought about it. Morgajon (talk) 23:02, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Strong oppose ITN doesn't cover tours in the same way others might. This appears promotional and big-in-context more than it does big on a worldwide scale. I've never even heard of Oasis up until this point, and arguments about their comeback being a "big deal" seem to be mostly within the scope of their genre and the UK and not suitable for a worldwide news story. Departure– (talk) 22:18, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- One more note; it appears that Morgajon's only edits have been to this ITNC entry and to the Oasis tour page itself, and they've received a notice for a potential conflict of interest which honestly wouldn't surprise me. The level of constant replies on their points is also bordering on WP:BLUDGEON territory. Departure– (talk) 22:20, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- The guidance makes it pretty clear that you cannot oppose something for only having ties to one country. Not that it is remotely true that Oasis aren't globally recognised. This is most definitely a big deal in the UK, far beyond mere music news. It's culturally significant, certainly the equal of Eras to the US, if not more so given the generation/reunion aspect. I have no conflicts of interest, and it is only logical that I should be the one to defend my own nomination. I certainly find it bizarre someone who had never heard of Oasis before, would want to comment on what is and is not a big deal in music. Morgajon (talk) 22:37, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- One more note; it appears that Morgajon's only edits have been to this ITNC entry and to the Oasis tour page itself, and they've received a notice for a potential conflict of interest which honestly wouldn't surprise me. The level of constant replies on their points is also bordering on WP:BLUDGEON territory. Departure– (talk) 22:20, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose - relatively big news in music but not significant enough for ITN. harrz talk 22:32, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- COMMENT I am taking this to WP:ANI as @Morgajon wants us (actual reviewers of these candidates) to make an exception when the consensus is opposing the addition of this to the main page. I am also proposing a sockpuppet investigation because, this guy probably used Wikipedia before, got banned and decided to sockpuppet, because how can a new user, already know anything and everything about the works of Wikipedia. Shaneapickle (talk) 23:11, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- I see no need for this. Sure, Morgajon is arguing strongly for this to be posted, but there is nothing that needs a warning or block by an administrator. Natg 19 (talk) 23:24, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Stop talking absolute rubbish. I am not asking for an exception, I am asking for a precedent to be set, for the exact reasons this process allows - significance. I appear to know more than you about Wikipedia for the simple reason that I actually read the guidance I am shown. It's ludicrous that you think a "conflict of interest" arises from just editing 2 pages about the same thing. It certainly isn't my fault that for some resson everyone here seems to have agreed amongst themselves that concerts will apparently never rise above the level of significance required. That's the sort of thing you would expect to be covered in the guidance. It is not. Without such guidance, it's perfectly reasonable to view this tour as a current event that's in the news, the general news, and bring it here, because in the real world that's exactly what it is. Morgajon (talk) 23:24, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Natg 19 and @Morgajon I brought this to ANI so an admin can resolve this situation, I am not advocating for a warning or a ban, because this situation is really being heated up and is turning into a snowball of different opinions, like a pee stain on a snowball. Shaneapickle (talk) 23:45, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support: meets the basic requirements of notable, well-written, and in the news. Oppose votes are using imaginary "significance" criteria that amount to WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 23:20, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Significance is one of the criteria for posting at ITN, however, there are no guidelines as to what "significance" means, thus we are left to "precedent" or people's opinions. Natg 19 (talk) 23:29, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- That non-guideline suggests "proof that an event is being covered, in an in-depth manner, by news sources is required", which has been provided. Precedent and subjective dislikes are specifically not considered when determining consensus per WP:CCC and WP:DISCARD. The use of "we didn't post this other thing" as a rationale at ITN is part of an ongoing competence issue that develops by editors here not being terribly experienced in other parts of the project. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 23:36, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- There is no "imaginary" significance criteria, it is part of the criteria that we used to judge based on consensus for posting ITN items. We also generally try to avoid business (which includes the music business) news because of the promotional aspects that typically come with that, barring the most significant mergers or acquisitions. Masem (t) 23:30, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose as The Eras Tour was not posted too. ArionStar (talk) 23:33, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- This remark about generally avoiding show business only goes to show there is something off about this whole process. You're basically ignoring an entire sector of culture because by definition, it relies on having an audience. But for some reason you're expecting newcomers to just know in advance that's how this place works. That it will basically automatically reject certian types of events, no matter how "significant" they are according to the definition in ITNSIGNIF (basically, news coverage). That's something I would expect to find in the guidance. Instead I got absolutely ludicrous accusations that I actually came here to promote the band or the tour. How? Tell me how a mention on Wikipedia's Main Page would make the tiniest difference to the absolute fortune Oasis has already made, due to the obvious significance of this tour to UK culture as a whole. As is obvious from the news coverage. But because that culture relies on paying punters, Wikipedia refuses to let readers find out interesting things like "Few bands’ reputations have been better served by the rise of streaming, both in its favouring of curated playlists over albums – all the highlights and none of the rubbish, of which there was a great deal in Oasis’s later years – and in the way it decontextualises music, denuding it of its accompanying story or contemporary critical responses." because someone somewhere is making money. Ridiculous. Morgajon (talk) 23:56, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- But this isn't about culture, its about the recycling and exploiting of culture. Ceoil (talk) 00:03, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Significance is one of the criteria for posting at ITN, however, there are no guidelines as to what "significance" means, thus we are left to "precedent" or people's opinions. Natg 19 (talk) 23:29, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose (with the disclaimer that brought Be Here Now to FA: it is a big deal within the industry (hype + exploitative ticket prices = money) and for fans (nostalgia), but hardly main page worthy as its really just the British Isles. IOWS, opposing as the coverage is, with no new songs, slow day media driven hype. A comparison would be to the c 2007 Pixies reunion, which was notable as the stry there was they had almost gone mainstream in between. Here, nothing has changed. Ceoil (talk) 23:42, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
(Reviewers needed) RD: Lolit Solis
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Philippine Star
Credits:
- Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:547C:7432:E984:43D0 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Luigi.a.cruz (talk · give credit) and Borgenland (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Filipino talk show host, showbiz columnist and talent manager. 240F:7A:6253:1:547C:7432:E984:43D0 (talk) 09:26, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Not yet ready Most of the article is well-sourced, but the filmography and radio works section needs more sources. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 08:17, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
(Closed) Free America Weekend
[edit]The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Blurb: No blurb specified (Post)
News source(s): [4]
Credits:
- Nominated by VitoxxMass (talk · give credit)
Article updated
- Oppose Per NTRUMP and the rejected No Kings blurb. NotKringe (talk) 12:42, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Speedy Close the article quality is far below the minimal level of acceptability, and is basically an ad for this protest which has been in the news far less than the "No Kings" protests, which weren't even posted. 72.203.224.67 (talk) 14:39, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment I just nominated article for deletion, now ilegible for ITN. Shaneapickle (talk) 14:58, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose and Speedy close. I'm having a hard time seeing why User:VitoxxMass posted this very local item. And why these silly nominations about things that don't even make the news in neighbouring countries keep pertaining to the same nation. No prejudice in relisting if the protestors start killing people, occupying the White House, or the government starts shooting them. And then with only a single source, called NewsNation that I haven't heard of, but is listed in WP:RSP as There is a consensus that NewsNation is generally reliable for matters not related to UFOs or UAPs. going on to discuss NewsNation's involvement in UFO conspiracies. WTAF? Nfitz (talk) 15:42, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
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Discovery of Peñico
[edit]Blurb: Archaeologists announce the discovery of Peñico, a 3,500 year old ancient Caral city. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Reuters
Credits:
- Nominated by Chorchapu (talk · give credit)
- Created by Harrz (talk · give credit)
Chorchapu (talk | edits) 03:24, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Question: Where's the image? 2404:8000:1037:587:503E:E59F:1D3C:93B6 (talk) 04:18, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Interesting story, but the target article needs a lot more expansion. Natg 19 (talk) 04:59, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Needs work They've been excavating this for eight years so it's not exactly a discovery. The Times headline is "Peruvian city lost for 3000 years opens to the public" which indicates that the excavations are completed and they are launching this as an attraction. I reckon that we need more than newspaper stories to support this as they are probably just based on a press-release. Andrew🐉(talk) 07:09, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Enriqueta Duarte
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Correo del Caroni
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by BeanieFan11 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:50, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support - A bit more meat in the article and overall sourcing would be welcome, but it’s acceptable, in my view. Jusdafax (talk) 00:02, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Posted to RD. SpencerT•C 08:23, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
RD: Peter Rufai
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): EastLeighVoice
Credits:
- Nominated by QalasQalas (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: He was Super Eagles Legend who won 1994 African Cup of Nations QalasQalas (talk) 12:27, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose due to sourcing issues. QuicoleJR (talk) 00:35, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: David Mabuza
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): New York Times, SABC News
Credits:
- Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:547C:7432:E984:43D0 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Aficionado538 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Former deputy president of South Africa. 240F:7A:6253:1:547C:7432:E984:43D0 (talk) 08:14, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support Solid article with a lot of references. Should be C class. Grimes2 12:36, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support - Clearly ready to post to RD. Jusdafax (talk) 00:06, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support Article is of sufficient quality. Marking as ready. QuicoleJR (talk) 00:39, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Posted to RD. SpencerT•C 08:17, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Billy Hunter
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Bill Hunter, last surviving member of inaugural Orioles team, dies at 97
Credits:
- Nominated by TheCorriynial (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Two MLB Franchises are marking a long time player's death today. Along side later being a Head coach, He was the last living member of the St. Louis Browns (which no longer exist, now the Orioles), and as the source above states, when they moved, also the last of the inaugural Orioles team lineup in 1954. Article is close, but could use a look over. TheCorriynial (talk) 00:08, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support meets WP:ITNQUALITY- there is 1 cn tag for 4 words of text, but that should not hold up this being posted. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:39, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support Removed the aforementioned unsourced info, and the rest of the article looks good. QuicoleJR (talk) 14:21, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Posted. --PFHLai (talk) 16:32, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
(Posted) 3I/ATLAS
[edit]Blurb: Astronomers announce the discovery of 3I/ATLAS, an interstellar object passing through the solar system. (Post)
News source(s): NYTimes, Guardian,
Credits:
- Nominated by Nottheking (talk · give credit)
Nominator's comments: Third-ever confirmed interstellar object (indicated by the "3I") and almost 6 years since the last one. (2I/Borisov) Not confirmed as a comment, but many sources do report this. Also of encyclopediac interest is the extremely high velocity (excess velocity of ~58 km/sec) which makes it more energetic than any other object ever measured in or near the solar system. Nottheking (talk) 21:18, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support Gaining alot of attention on social media, and news reports have stated alot of things about the discovery. Shaneapickle (talk) 21:22, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Proposal of altblurb+support Altblurb should be shorter, like "NASA announces the discovery of a interstellar comet being the first interstellar comet discovered in 6 years" Shaneapickle (talk) 21:45, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support - a new 'Oumuamua! Very notable. Khuft (talk) 21:46, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support: Good-quality article, rare and reported-on event. -insert valid name here- (talk) 21:50, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support as one of the editors (alongside User:Kheider) actively writing up this article. Lots of media buzz, and a rare event. Nrco0e (talk • contribs) 23:34, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support ArionStar (talk) 01:21, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Posted Stephen 01:42, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
2025 European heatwaves
[edit]Blurb: Record-breaking heat waves across Europe leave more than 1,200 dead, cause widespread disruption and exacerbate the ongoing wildfire season. (Post)
News source(s): Euronews, The Guardian, BBC News
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Harrz (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Nominator's comments: Significant event across a whole continent; countless records broken, including highest June temperature in Portugal and Spain; numerous wildfires and deaths; significant disruption in multiple countries. According to MoMo, there have been 553 heat-related deaths in Spain since the start of summer, whilst the LSHTM predicted there would be 570 in the UK between 19 and 22 June. harrz talk 19:57, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose - People really will do whatever it takes to get a ITN nomination. This is completely normal for Europe. 135.180.128.228 (talk) 20:01, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- I wouldn't say it's "completely normal" when records have been broken in at least ten countries... harrz talk 20:06, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- People love to underestimate the impacts of weather at ITNC. Support as record-breaking and extremely deadly. EF5 20:10, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- The IP is blocked and geolocates outside Europe. What a surprise... Daß Wölf 01:49, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- I wouldn't say it's "completely normal" when records have been broken in at least ten countries... harrz talk 20:06, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose most of these heatwaves have happened in the last week and finished. Yes there were record breaking temperatures, but no that doesn't mean it meets WP:ITNSIGNIF. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:29, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Was thinking the same. Seems like this story is already slightly stale. The lede of the article says
the most severe heatwave so far came in mid-June
. Natg 19 (talk) 20:52, 3 July 2025 (UTC)- I have amended the lead to be more accurate; I wrote that before the current spate of extreme temperatures began. harrz talk 21:05, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Actually many of them are ongoing, with more extreme temperatures forecasted for weeks to come. Also, it does meet WP:ITNSIGNIF, as countless sources from across the world have been tirelessly reporting on it. Just because the heatwaves have ended in English-speaking areas doesn't mean they have ended everywhere. Greece is currently battling wildfires with over 1,500 evacuated and 20 cities in Italy are on red alert for heat. Please do not say they are "finished" until you have done some research. Also, every item in ITN is over a week old now, so something a bit more recent is definitely due. harrz talk 20:57, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- It is extremely hard to justify the annual occurrences of heat waves or wildfires, without something that makes that specific event far more significant than those of previous years. Just because there's a large amount of mainstream news covering it does not make for a good encyclopedic content. Masem (t) 22:10, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- That is why I said "most" countries it has finished. Of the 21 countries listed on that article, only a few are still affected- and the amount of content on those listed in that article is no more than a couple of sentences anyway. Joseph2302 (talk) 23:18, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Was thinking the same. Seems like this story is already slightly stale. The lede of the article says
- 60,000 people died as a result of the 2022 European heatwaves. 47,000 died due to the 2023 European heatwaves. Averaged over 90 days, the average day beats any entire Atlantic hurricane season of this decade. As another comparison, these two years added together have roughly the same death count as the infobox in the Israeli–Palestinian conflict article (1948-present). Croatian state media reports an estimate for 60,000 excess deaths this year, and while it doesn't cite the source, an UK study cites upwards of 3,000 deaths for the last 4 days. While we won't get a study on the excess deaths until next year, with these figures in mind, I see no merit in WP:ITNSIGNIF complaints and no reson not to give it my support.
- As for staleness, it would be very nice if this was the last hot week of the summer, but judging from the past articles and current mid-term forecasts, that's not about to happen. I don't see a problem whether it gets posted now or 15 days from today, considering it will still be an ongoing deadly event with recurring hot days. Daß Wölf 01:49, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support – Article looks good and detailed, and this is certainly significant. I don't mind a yearly-recurring disaster being in ITN. Lots of yearly-recurring items are. You can't tell the thousands dead that the subject is insignificant, and I don't think it's really stale either. The season is still ongoing, for one, but also the heatwave was perhaps the most significant this very week. I'm seeing a lot of 20–30 June. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 11:47, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thousands die every year from seasonal flooding in SE Asia, we don't post those, because it happens every year. And particularly, given this is over a long stretch of time, and not from one single event, its hard to consider it as a significant topic. Masem (t) 13:07, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Well, in my opinion, we probably should... I'll never understand why mundane things like sports events are seen as more important than the deaths of thousands; we often post tornado outbreaks which kill around 20 in the US, even though they are annual occurrences. These heatwaves will likely continue until at least August, so if it is the prolongued nature of them which makes you weary to post it then might I propose adding it to the Ongoing section? It does seem to fit the criteria after all. harrz talk 16:05, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- The key I think is understanding that a singular event can carry more significance than a long drawn out sequence of events. the idea of "frog in a boiling pot" comes to mind, that one major single event is going to get far more widespread cover than a series of connected events which are not much different from the usual. Masem (t) 20:05, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Well, in my opinion, we probably should... I'll never understand why mundane things like sports events are seen as more important than the deaths of thousands; we often post tornado outbreaks which kill around 20 in the US, even though they are annual occurrences. These heatwaves will likely continue until at least August, so if it is the prolongued nature of them which makes you weary to post it then might I propose adding it to the Ongoing section? It does seem to fit the criteria after all. harrz talk 16:05, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Thousands die every year from seasonal flooding in SE Asia, we don't post those, because it happens every year. And particularly, given this is over a long stretch of time, and not from one single event, its hard to consider it as a significant topic. Masem (t) 13:07, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support Significant event. ArionStar (talk) 16:13, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support per above due to its negative effects. I also remember heatwaves from the last few years being posted, although I'm not sure about that. --SpectralIon 18:58, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose Per Masem's point about the double standard. As an additional example, when gay marriage was increasingly being legalized by country after country, we posted it the first few times, but then ITN had to draw the line when it became apparent that legalizations were now the norm in certain regions as opposed to an aberration. This same principle applies, unfortunately, to climate-related articles: if we do not draw the line somewhere, we will blurb wildfires every single year going forward. This is the new normal, and that is not WP:CRYSTAL: the science on climate change tells us every year will have record-breaking floods, storms, fires, and heat waves. So, to me, WP:ITNSIGNIF requires a higher standard of impact and enduring significance - "yet another record-breaking year" is not that without more evidence of mass evacuations or concentrated devastation (like with the LA Wildfires or a particular hurricane, e.g.). FlipandFlopped ㋡ 19:08, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose on the basis of quality. This is an almanach-like collection of random temperature readings since April. The infobox says the heatwave started on 28 May 2025 (did it? says who? in what countries?); the first entry Albania starts with a statement that Tirana expierenced 28°C in April and 37°C on 9 June... what? Was a heatwave ongoing in Tirana/Albania between April and June? Was Tirana affected by the actual heatwave at the end of June? What was the effect on Tirana/Albania during those heatwave days? Similar remarks could be made for most entries. Sorry, but this article has no coherence whatsoever. Khuft (talk) 20:35, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- That is true for quite a few countries, and I am working on finding new information for them but it is quite difficult as I need to look for sources in other languages since English sources are mostly focused on France, Greece, Italy and Spain. The sections for those countries are much more developed and hopefully the rest will be similar soon. harrz talk 21:15, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose per Khuft, needs significant work to be presentable. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 23:38, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- May I ask what the issue with the article is so I can improve it? Everything is sourced and without just removing the coverage of certain countries I don't see how the issue can be fixed. When covering an incident that has affected a whole continent, having sections for each country is the best way to do it without overloading readers with heaps of information about different places. harrz talk 00:00, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Strong oppose as I feel the blurb is misleading. While I don't have any statistics on how many people die due to heat every summer every year, I feel the blurb reads like it's a major disaster like a draught leading to famine. I also disagree with the very vague "widespread disruption". 83.187.162.155 (talk) 00:21, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
Recognition of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan
[edit]Blurb: The Russian Federation became the first country to recognize the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan under its Taliban government. (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:
- Nominated by Noorullah21 (talk · give credit)
Noorullah (talk) 19:36, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose Nom is TOOSOON Shaneapickle (talk) 19:42, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose Russia? Let's be serious. Nfitz (talk) 20:13, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose 2 governments' propaganda is not ITN worthy content- ITN isn't a Russo-Taliban propaganda forum. Also literally no sensible target article for this nomination either, as the recognition article is junk list of reactions. Suggest speedy close as per WP:SNOW. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:27, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose & SNOWBALL close Good faith nom but this is nowhere near notable enough for ITN. TwistedAxe [contact] 11:00, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose procedurally no bolded link. Would be open to reconsideration if someone were to clean up a viable target article like Afghanistan–Russia relations. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 23:31, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
(Reviewers needed) RD: Kenneth Colley
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [5]
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: British actor, noted for Star Wars Episodes 5 and 6 Ptelford (talk) 20:55, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
RD: David Lipsey
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [6]
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Labour peer, member of the House of Lords, former leader of the Fabian Society PtolemyXV (talk) 19:01, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose Half the article is unsourced. QuicoleJR (talk) 18:33, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
RD: Michael Madsen
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NBC L.A. ,The Guardian
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: American actor 90.211.54.213 (talk) 17:12, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose Inadequate sourcing. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:16, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- More sourcing now regarding his death. ItsShandog (talk) 17:53, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose Gonna take a lot of effort to get that filmography sourced, even if we left the blue links alone. Masem (t) 19:32, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- It will be hard work... BilboBeggins (talk) 19:35, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Currently in the process sourcing filmography section ItsShandog (talk) 19:56, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Or I was in the process but someone removed it again. ItsShandog (talk) 20:02, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose, sadly. The filmography section should be spun out anyway, but the article is underdeveloped overall, eg the lead is basically a list. Ceoil (talk) 22:38, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
(Closed) Stop Killing Games campaign
[edit]The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Blurb: The European Citizens Initiative of the Stop Killing Games campaign reaches its objective of one million signatures, meaning it will be considered for debate in the European Commission. (Post)
Alternative blurb: The petition of the Stop Killing Games campaign for the UK Parliament reaches 100,000 signatures, meaning it will be considered for debate in Parliament.
News source(s): "Stop Killing Games". stopkillinggames.com. Retrieved 2025-07-03.Scott, Ross [@accursedfarms] (2025-07-02). "The UK petition has reached 100k signatures! This means it will be brought before Parliament and we can ignore the old garbage answer that didn't address the problem. Will have a video on it later. Keep signing for safety margins!" (Tweet). Archived from the original on 2025-07-02 – via Twitter.
Credits:
- Nominated by NeoGaze (talk · give credit)
- Created by Dabmasterars (talk · give credit)
- Updated by 176.228.5.125 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
- Oppose This is currently on the main page in DYK and that seems ample exposure for now. It's another form of protest like the other recent nominations and, per WP:ADVOCACY, we should have a high bar for reporting such lobbying. Andrew🐉(talk) 16:52, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose does not meet WP:ITNSIGNIF. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:55, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose on significance, all this means is that it will be debated. I would be willing to consider blurbing any new laws that result from this, but I don't think the petition itself is important enough. QuicoleJR (talk) 16:57, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose LOL Harizotoh9 (talk) 17:16, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose - those are the best sources there is? No wonder there's no stand-alone article. Nfitz (talk) 17:43, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
RD: André Filipe da Silva
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:
- Nominated by Kingsif (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Stanley Gordon (talk · give credit) and Unknown Temptation (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Brother of Diogo Jota, had a football career of his own, article newly created and sufficient. Kingsif (talk) 09:58, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose article is a stub and questionable whether he's notable anyway, as notability claim seems to be WP:INHERITED. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:53, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- U23s of a major team and regular in the Portuguese second division covers notability easily. Kingsif (talk) 11:14, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Sources are what's needed to pass WP:GNG- and sources about him rather than just being the brother of Jota (which is how mst obitiaries are doing). I will look for sources later today and if I don't believe GNG is met, I will start an AFD. Either aay, nowhere near meeting WP:ITNQUALITY. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:44, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- You’re experienced enough to know that (otherwise suitable) sources which contain significant info on how someone is notable in their own right are always acceptable, even if they all mention the person’s more-famous relative. Notability being inherited is if someone has no claim in their own right and a bio would be all personal information found in sources by association. That clearly isn’t the case - the sources with info on André’s career support his own notability, regardless of mentioning Jota. Kingsif (talk) 13:56, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- This is really a debate for the article talkpage or an AFD, but if these sources exist, then add them so it can meet WP:ITNQUALITY. Like I said, I haven't thoroughly checked for sources yet, but the sources on the article currently don't meet WP:SIGCOV about him. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:14, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- This is moot thanks to expansion, but worth saying to underline ITN’s attitude to new short bios: I know you know that SIGCOV includes sources focused on others if there’s enough info and, at the time you wrote this comment, there was a “who was André Silva” source all about him already used. It was fine, is now better, and notability shouldn’t be brought up for RD unless it is at AfD. Kingsif (talk) 19:07, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- If you're referring to this source that was there at time I questioned notability, it's borderline but I don't see it as SIGCOV (as it's mostly basic career facts, a section about his name and confusion with someone else and the accident- which seems somewhat routine to me). Joseph2302 (talk) 23:13, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- This is moot thanks to expansion, but worth saying to underline ITN’s attitude to new short bios: I know you know that SIGCOV includes sources focused on others if there’s enough info and, at the time you wrote this comment, there was a “who was André Silva” source all about him already used. It was fine, is now better, and notability shouldn’t be brought up for RD unless it is at AfD. Kingsif (talk) 19:07, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- This is really a debate for the article talkpage or an AFD, but if these sources exist, then add them so it can meet WP:ITNQUALITY. Like I said, I haven't thoroughly checked for sources yet, but the sources on the article currently don't meet WP:SIGCOV about him. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:14, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- You’re experienced enough to know that (otherwise suitable) sources which contain significant info on how someone is notable in their own right are always acceptable, even if they all mention the person’s more-famous relative. Notability being inherited is if someone has no claim in their own right and a bio would be all personal information found in sources by association. That clearly isn’t the case - the sources with info on André’s career support his own notability, regardless of mentioning Jota. Kingsif (talk) 13:56, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Sources are what's needed to pass WP:GNG- and sources about him rather than just being the brother of Jota (which is how mst obitiaries are doing). I will look for sources later today and if I don't believe GNG is met, I will start an AFD. Either aay, nowhere near meeting WP:ITNQUALITY. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:44, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- U23s of a major team and regular in the Portuguese second division covers notability easily. Kingsif (talk) 11:14, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose Regardless of the notability argument, the article is well below the minimum size of 1500 bytes of readable prose. We don't post stubs at RD. QuicoleJR (talk) 14:05, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose Barring any sourcing prior to his death to show significant coverage (Simply playing for a major team no longer is considered sufficient under NSPORT), this is a clear WP:BLP1E failure, particularly as the deaths were from an accident, and unlikely to warrant anything like a "Death of..." article that we'd have for major leaders or extremely visible celebrities. Masem (t) 14:21, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose I don't doubt notability, as someone who has made pages for players and managers in the Portuguese second division. Notability is a red herring anyway, a topic for WP:AFD. However the page is a stub and should exceed 1,500 characters - preferably more on career. Unknown Temptation (talk) 15:13, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- I had a butcher's and found a source from his lifetime [7] and an obituary, [8] both in Portuguese. This was enough to flesh out with vital statistics and a bit more about the career. All English coverage is inevitably framed around his brother, which isn't helping this page beat the WP:NOTINHERITED allegations. Unknown Temptation (talk) 18:31, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support Based on Unknown Temptation’s expansion, it now meets quality requirements. Kingsif (talk) 19:09, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support Article seems better now, but also a comment: This is a very unusal situation. The circumstances of this article's creation imply that we really only found him relevant because he died in an accident with his brother (who happens to be the famous Diogo Jota.) A close reading of WP:ITNRDBLURB would suggest that his death is therefore the main story and would maybe merit blurbing. Would like to hear other editors' thoughts on this because I'm not sure personally. Yo.dazo (talk) 20:24, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- I see it as a typical case of users who otherwise prioritise article creation elsewhere (than Portuguese second division footballers) finding motivation from a tragic death to briefly move it up the list. “Deaditing” is a thing for a reason, though ITN has a weird relationship with the concept. Kingsif (talk) 22:40, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment I'm still opposing this posting on quality grounds. Whilst it is 2100 characters- and so more than a stub- the article says very little about his playing career, other than just listing the teams he played for. As such, the article feels incomplete, and does not yet meet WP:ITNQUALITY in my view. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:06, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
- The section had, at the time of your comment, content about how regularly he was playing for the clubs, and how Penafiel led the league before falling off in his last season. It's certainly not just a list of clubs. I don't think it needs a diary of every game and goal. I admit the coverage of his youth clubs is a bit listy (with a splash of who his teammates were), but the Jota page just had a mention of his youth clubs (albeit only two) before I expanded that, with the page already posted. When it comes to youth clubs, we often have nothing to go on but a list, because the players were not of public interest then. Unknown Temptation (talk) 21:31, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support – Although I agree that the page is on the shorter side, it is no longer a stub and as of this revision, standing at 2776 B and 465 words, the article is of sufficient quality for it to be posted Aviationwikiflight (talk) 16:41, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Unreferenced date of birth. Schwede66 02:07, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support per the old Football notability requirements, a player simply needed to play one match in a fully professional football league to merit a Wikipedia article. Liga Portugal 2 is fully professional. Andre Filipe da Silva played 59 matches in Liga Portugal 2. While those old Football notability requirements are no longer applicable, I find the argument that he did not deserve a Wikipedia article unconvincing. NorthernFalcon (talk) 05:43, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Diogo Jota
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): De Telegraaf, Sky News, The Beeb
Credits:
- Nominated by Jalapeño (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Liverpool forward/left winger. One CN, no orange/yellow banners Jalapeño (u t g) 08:51, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- I see this was already posted. Marking as such. The article is well cited and there are no issues with speedy posting. --Tone 09:25, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- That was me who added it - apologies as I didn’t follow procedure by posting here but I figured it was an obvious RD to speedily add with a comprehensive and reliably-sourced article. Fish+Karate 13:01, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Post-posting support, article is of sufficient quality. QuicoleJR (talk) 14:03, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- I don't see why this should not get a blurb. It is a major sporting headline especially when it comes to association football
- Heatrave (talk) 10:24, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
July 2
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(Reviewers needed) RD: Sophia Hutchins
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Deadline Hollywood
Credits:
- Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:DD74:7980:EFE0:38A6 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Manager of Caitlyn Jenner. 240F:7A:6253:1:DD74:7980:EFE0:38A6 (talk) 05:23, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
RD: Julian McMahon
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [9], [10]
Credits:
- Nominated by Happily888 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Sinbabad (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Happily888 (talk) 02:08, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
Oppose due to sourcing issues. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:12, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- @QuicoleJR: issues have been fixed. Sahaib (talk) 20:09, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Moving to neutral since I am genuinely unsure what the current consensus is for filmography sourcing. Other than that and one CN tag, the article seems fine. QuicoleJR (talk) 20:30, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support sourcing is good now. Sahaib (talk) 20:09, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Filmography is largely unsourced. Even the prose need more sourcing. For instance, the third paragraph of the Career section mentions a number of his films, but the footnotes at the end of that paragraph link to sources about the last two films mentioned there only, not supporting all those films mentioned earlier in the paragraph. Please add more REFs. The missing REFs can be used in both the prose and the filmography tables. --PFHLai (talk) 21:14, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
(Closed) Sean Combs verdict
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Blurb: The trial of Sean Combs (pictured in 2012) concludes with him being convicted of transportation to engage in prostitution. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Rapper Sean Combs (pictured in 2012) is acquitted on racketeering and sex trafficking charges, and is convicted of transportation to engage in prostitution.
News source(s): NBC, NYT, CNN
Credits:
- Nominated by Jalapeño (talk · give credit)
- Was not expecting to see Diddy at ITN today. Eh, I'm going to weak oppose as I can't remember the last time we posted any legal case involving one person, and I'm especially hesitant to post one about his crimes due to the nature (yes, WP:NOTCENSORED, I know). EF5 18:03, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- OJ'd on most charges. Count Iblis (talk) 18:06, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose celebrity tried and found guilty of some crimes, news at 11. Not significant in the larger picture. Masem (t) 18:09, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. Not of lasting significance. — Amakuru (talk) 18:51, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose per above. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.74.153.225 (talk) 22:13, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose largely per above. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 23:35, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose per WP:BLP:
it is not Wikipedia's job to be sensationalist, or to be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives
. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 00:09, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- I would also oppose this nomination, as this is largely just celebrity news and no overarching significance. However, I see no BLP violation here as we are not spreading unsourced claims or anything like that. Natg 19 (talk) 00:29, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- I would tend to agree that strictly, having an article covering the trial and verdict is fine, all that is public info. What I think the intent is is that this type of trial (similar to the Depp/Heard trial or the Dust-set shooting) is leaning on celebrity gossip if we featured it as ITN. Just because something like this gets tons of coverage doesn't necessary make it appropriate content for us to feature on the main page. Masem (t) 01:33, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- I would also oppose this nomination, as this is largely just celebrity news and no overarching significance. However, I see no BLP violation here as we are not spreading unsourced claims or anything like that. Natg 19 (talk) 00:29, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
(Closed) 2025 United States wildfires
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Blurb: Over 1.7 million acres of forests has been burned in the United States this year. (Post)
Alternative blurb: The largest wildfire in U.S. history destroyed more than 3,400 structures, killed more than 280 people, and burned about 1.7 million acres.
News source(s): [11] [12] washingtonpost The guardian
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by CostalCal (talk · give credit)
Article updated
- Oppose We already posted the California wildfire when it happened, iirc. The place with big wildfires currently is Europe -- places like Scotland and Turkey. Andrew🐉(talk) 06:57, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- The BBC News Scotland homepage currently has exactly zero stories relating to wildfires. GenevieveDEon (talk) 11:51, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- See this, for example. Andrew🐉(talk) 16:12, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- The BBC News Scotland homepage currently has exactly zero stories relating to wildfires. GenevieveDEon (talk) 11:51, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose if there's a single ITN worthy US wildfire event currently happening, that should be nominated- but don't believe this is the case. And this article doesn't need posting to ITN. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:07, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Strong oppose - Largest in U.S. history? Deadliest? Where are you getting these metrics from? Plus, wildfire season hasn’t even started. EF5 12:03, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose wildfires happen every year in many nations. We should only post wildfires that actually have significant impacts like the LA one last year. Masem (t) 13:39, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose as stale. DarkSide830 (talk) 16:13, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
July 1
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(Posted) RD: Gilda Cruz-Romo
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): proopera.org.mx
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Leading soprano worldwide, from Mexico, in the 1970s and 1980s, article was mostly general lists of places, some detail added. There's more detail in the obit, but I'm busy this weekend. Few sources (so far), but GLS is an authority. Her death was made known 1 July. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:37, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support Appropriate depth, referenced. SpencerT•C 08:24, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Posted already a few hours ago by another admin. --PFHLai (talk) 05:43, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
(Reviewers needed) RD: Terry Brown (brothel owner)
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Infamous former South Island sex industry kingpin dies
Credits:
- Nominated by Schwede66 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: The source states: Stuff understands he died earlier this week from health complications. His family declined to comment on Wednesday.
If that is correct, he died sometime between 30 June (Mon) and 2 July (Wed). I've slotted this in under 1 July; we can always adjust that once the exact death date becomes known. The article is ready apart from missing categories, which I will now add. Schwede66 05:05, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: Article would benefit on a brief description (couple words) on what the "Up, Up and Away company" did, but otherwise appropriate depth and referenced. SpencerT•C 08:12, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Spencer, I've added that (and it's quite something!). Schwede66 02:01, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
RD: Alex Delvecchio
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Boston Globe, NHL.com
Credits:
- Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:ADA9:36F:1332:CF6D (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Canuckhead43 (talk · give credit), Jkaharper (talk · give credit), Alexgor23 (talk · give credit) and Connormah (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Canadian Hall of Fame ice hockey player. 240F:7A:6253:1:ADA9:36F:1332:CF6D (talk) 14:09, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- All time great, loved by the Red Wings community, and lived a long life. Support. 24.77.127.72 (talk) 20:31, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose Too much unsourced content. QuicoleJR (talk) 14:22, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support, one of the hockey greats who, not so common now, spent his entire career with one team. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:04, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Orange-tagged. Schwede66 01:57, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
RD: Jimmy Swaggart
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New York Times
Credits:
- Nominated by Wizzito (talk · give credit)
Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Could use some work with sourcing. wizzito | say hello! 18:50, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: As nom mentions, more sources needed. SpencerT•C 08:07, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
Paetongtarn Shinawatra suspended
[edit]Blurb: Thai Prime Minister Paetongtarn Shinawatra is suspended by the Constitutional Court of Thailand, with deputy prime minister Suriya Juangroongruangkit taking over as acting leader (Post)
Alternative blurb: Amid a political crisis, Thai Prime Minister Paetongtarn Shinawatra is suspended by the Constitutional Court of Thailand, with deputy Suriya Juangroongruangkit becoming acting leader.
News source(s): [13]
Credits:
- Nominated by Banedon (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Khiikiat (talk · give credit), Preime TH (talk · give credit) and PaperPenguin856 (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Banedon (talk) 14:54, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- oh man this is huge. support!! 196.221.194.165 (talk) 15:00, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. There is barely one sentence about the suspension in this article. Celjski Grad (talk) 15:19, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment besides the minimal update, the blurb should explain the reason for the suspension. That said this is an ITNR I think? Masem (t) 15:33, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Yes this is ITNR, head of government (though the politics is dominated by the Royal Thai Armed Forces). The monarch has a limited role in Thai politics (well except lèse-majesté in Thailand). Gotitbro (talk) 19:18, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Technical support this is a change to a head of government and ITN/R... but oppose on content since there is literally just a sentence on this. wait until a full article is made. Scuba 20:29, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality when there's a proper article or a decent amount of content in a relevant existing article, then this should probably be posted. But for now, fails WP:ITNQUALITY. Joseph2302 (talk) 09:33, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Opinion I'd rather 2025 Thai political crisis than Paetongtarn Shinawatra as the targeted article. Support ALT. ArionStar (talk) 16:13, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
Alligator Alcatraz
[edit]Blurb: The United States announces a concentration camp (pictured) in the alligator-infested waters west of Miami, Florida. (Post)
Alternative blurb: America is criticized for its planned immigration detention facility dubbed "Alligator Alcatraz".
News source(s): The New Republic
Credits:
- Nominated by 174.138.212.166 (talk · give credit)
- Created by Global Donald (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Kencf0618 (talk · give credit)
174.138.212.166 (talk) 11:44, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose on significance. This definitely isn't worth highlighting on the Main Page. QuicoleJR (talk) 12:46, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose per WP:NTRUMP, and to add that the first blurb would be unacceptable (I know everyone is comparing the facility to a concentration camp, but we cannot say that objectively). Masem (t) 13:03, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Obvious trolling. "Concentration camp" is, so far, a terminology that is an insult to WW2 survivors. Global Donald (talk) 14:02, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support Inasmuch as it wasn't announced as a concentration camp, I'd go with "built a concentration camp". kencf0618 (talk) 14:59, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
June 30
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(Posted) RD: Gamini Lokuge
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC Hiru News
Credits:
- Updated and nominated by Titanciwiki (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Sri Lankan Politician, Former Cabinet Minister and MP (1983-2024) Titanciwiki (talk) 19:56, 03 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support Article is long enough and fully sourced. Marking as ready. QuicoleJR (talk) 21:16, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: Article for the most part is a list of positions and committee assignments without much depth regarding what he specifically accomplished while in those roles. SpencerT•C 08:06, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- @Spencer I have tried to expand his article, I added more information about what he did in office, as well as some controversies surrounding his political career. I hope it's enough. Titanciwiki (talk) 19:28, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Posted to RD. SpencerT•C 21:35, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
Telangana chemical factory explosion
[edit]Blurb: A factory explosion at Sangareddy Telangana, India, kills 39 people. (Post)
Alternative blurb: 39 killed, 36 injured in Reactor explosion at chemical factory in Telangana, India
News source(s): BBCAl jazeera ReutersCNN]
Credits:
- Created and nominated by Spworld2 (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Celjski Grad (talk · give credit)
Nominator's comments: High death toll incident in Telangana, India. Spworld2 (talk) 13:34, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose Poorly written in a weird syntax with grammar errors, etc. Dreameditsbrooklyn (talk) 13:45, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Why was I put as the creator? I had no idea this even happened. EF5 14:08, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Presumably the user just copied and pasted from a different nomination? Joseph2302 (talk) 14:20, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry! It was a mistake made when copying and pasting the template, and I will be careful of such editing errors in the future. Thank you Spworld2 (talk) 15:07, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose on quality and notability. The article is barely more than a stub, and does nothing to demonstrate how this would be anywhere close to WP:ITNSIGNIF either. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:20, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Wait The article still needs some structural and sourcing improvements, and I am working on it. However, I strongly believe the subject is clearly notable... a major industrial explosion with 45 confirmed deaths, widely covered by national and regional media including BBC, DW, and Al Jazeera. With some more work, the article can meet ITN standards. Veritasphere (talk) 16:15, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment I've reworked and expanded the article a bit and I'll hopefully add some more info once more news comes out. Scaramouche33 (talk) 17:54, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support on notability, good start but needs expansion Kowal2701 (talk) 18:23, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support on notability ArionStar (talk) 03:26, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment @Dreameditsbrooklyn @Joseph2302: The article looks to have been redone, pinging in case you want to re-evaluate your opposes since they were based on quality. I'm neutral on posting. Aydoh8[what have I done now?] 13:34, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- I am now neutral but it looks like the time has passed imo. thanks for the ping. Dreameditsbrooklyn (talk) 08:30, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support The article’s quality has improved. There is widespread international coverage and the nature of the accident (a chemical explosion) as well as the number of casualties (~40 or more) are unusual for India. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 21:44, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Comment It might be better if the article was rewritten to explain the term "reactor" and "reactor unit" because at the moment it reads like the company are denying a nuclear event took place. Black Kite (talk) 21:53, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- I don't think that the article is comprehensive enough for posting. Schwede66 05:25, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. The bolded link fails WP:NEVENT and is sourced exclusively to primary sources, violating WP:OR. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 23:25, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
RD: Jim Shooter
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ComicBook.com
Credits:
- Nominated by 240F:7A:6253:1:C4BA:A407:B92D:C3EE (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Former Marvel Comics editor-in-chief. 240F:7A:6253:1:C4BA:A407:B92D:C3EE (talk) 05:46, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Strong support; came here to post this. DS (talk) 18:51, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Same here, but the article still has some unreferenced paragraphs. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:24, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Sourcing issues fixed (unsourced item removed). DS (talk) 04:19, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Same here, but the article still has some unreferenced paragraphs. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:24, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
(Posted) RD: Lajos Sătmăreanu
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.gsp.ro/fotbal/liga-1/a-murit-lajos-satmareanu-818048.html
Credits:
- Nominated by Onegreatjoke (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Sebi1990TheSecond (talk · give credit)
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Romanian footballer. Article looks good. Onegreatjoke (talk) 01:46, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- Support Article is long enough and fully sourced. QuicoleJR (talk) 14:25, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- The single-sentence intro could use a bit more text. ({{lead too short}}) --PFHLai (talk) 15:36, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Indeed. Schwede66 06:08, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- Posted. The intro is much longer now. --PFHLai (talk) 21:24, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
(Closed) 2025 Coeur d'Alene shooting
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Blurb: Two firefighters are killed and a third critically wounded when a gunman sets a brush fire to ambush first-responders on Canfield Mountain near Coeur d’Alene, Idaho; the suspect is later found dead. (Post)
Alternative blurb: A gunman allegedly lures firefighters to a blaze on Canfield Mountain in Idaho, killing two and wounding another before being found dead after a five-hour manhunt.
News source(s): * The Washington Post – overview and timeline Reuters – confirms two dead, one injured, 300-officer response CNN – on-scene reporting and sheriff’s press briefings
Credits:
- Nominated by Dahawk04 (talk · give credit)
- Opposse - Definitely notable, but two people dying in a non-assassination shooting (because I know that'll be brought up) isn't very significant, especially in the United States. There have been 169 mass shootings up to May 31, what makes this one different besides the targets? EF5 21:32, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Response to oppose -
- Rare, targeted first-responder attack: deliberate ambushes of U.S. firefighters are almost unheard of; the last fatal case was the 2012 Webster, New York incident—which was posted on ITN.
- Widespread, high-profile coverage: this shooting led national newscasts (AP, Reuters, Washington Post, CNN, BBC) and has already drawn policy commentary on first-responder safety—coverage depth that ITN normally requires. Dahawk04 (talk) 21:56, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Shootings regularly make the National news and don’t get posted. 2 deaths in a shooting isn’t rare at all; there’s been at least ten deadlier shootings this year. EF5 22:10, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose per EF5. Deadly shootings in the US is routine . _-_Alsor (talk) 21:59, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Strong oppose Doesn't seem important, and shootings of this caliber are routine in the States. The 2012 Webster shooting had twice as many fatalities and was not posted (see Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates/December 2012). Departure– (talk) 22:15, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Man… forgot about Sandy Hook. Just another example of how common these types of incidents take place in the US. EF5 22:26, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
RD: Thio Su Mien
[edit]Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CNA
Credits:
- Nominated by Robertsky (talk · give credit)
- Updated by Justanothersgwikieditor (talk · give credit) and Honda Kira (talk · give credit)
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: First female law dean of National University of Singapore. – robertsky (talk) 10:27, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose the article is pretty short, so doesn't meet WP:ITNQUALITY. Also, the "Civil activities" section is confusing as it doesn't mention her at all- and nowhere in the article does it specify which of the organisations it's talking about she was affiliated with. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:10, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- DYK tool firmly puts the article above stub. As for the rest, thanks for the feedback. – robertsky (talk) 10:16, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- When I read WP:ITNQUALITY, Robertsky, I sense a higher standard than DYK's minimum prose requirement. Schwede66 05:18, 3 July 2025 (UTC)
- Not sure if you missed it, but here in the Civil activities section:
a group of conservative Christian women from the Church of Our Saviour, under the leadership of Josie Lau and Thio
, mentions her as one of the leaders of the church, showing that she was connected with the church and not AWARE. – actuall7 (talk | contrib) 04:28, 3 July 2025 (UTC) - With the recent expansion to 640+ words of prose, this wikibio should be more than long enough to qualify, length-wise. Time for a re-review? --PFHLai (talk) 15:18, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- Looking heaps better. Schwede66 06:07, 6 July 2025 (UTC)
- DYK tool firmly puts the article above stub. As for the rest, thanks for the feedback. – robertsky (talk) 10:16, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
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