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    Talk page template

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    A majority of queries I see here are about adding entries to today's Current Events portal, so should the talk page disclaimer here directing people to today's template be made more prominent? Departure– (talk) 14:54, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Today's subpage is linked in the edit notice for this talk page, it's the second item on the list:
    • This page is for discussion of Portal:Current events, which is fully protected. If an edit is required, please make a request and add the template {{editprotected}}. An administrator will attend to your request shortly
    • Anybody may edit the subpages for each day, including today's
    • If you have noticed an error in the "Topics in the news" section, please report it here
    • To suggest an item for "In the news", please go to WP:ITN/C
    The edit notice is shown prominently above the editor when a user clicks on "Add topic" at the top.
    As for the talk page header, I wouldn't mind switching the order to put the links for non-admins first. From:
    to
    —⁠andrybak (talk) 16:01, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Recent Additions to Disasters Section

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    I've observed that the disasters section of the page has become increasingly long recently, listing relatively routine events and certain events multiple times on different days to provide updates. I have tried to push back against this trend by removing items in the past few days that I feel are not significant enough to be included.

    Earlier today, Crwd-ppu reverted those removals after going through my edit history during a non-related content dispute, implying that I discriminated against US [1] and saying that my removals were made improperly. [2], [3], [4], [5]

    I now seek input from other editors on this issue regarding whether the removals were made improperly and if there should be pushback against the recent increase in events in the disasters section. XYZ1233212 (talk) 07:39, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    No, I don't think you should arbitrarily start "pushing back" against anything on the portal, and @Crwd-ppu was correct to challenge you on this issue. Based on your recent edits I think you will have multiple disputes with other editors on the Current events portal and cause unnecessary disruption. GWA88 (talk) 11:03, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I haven't "arbitrarily" pushed back against anything, and I think that was very clear in my original post. My understanding of the purpose of this page is to provide an overview of the most important events happening around the world on a given day. To do that, I think we logically will have to keep everything brief, both in terms of what we choose to include and how we present what we choose to include. Right now, I don't think that's happening.
    I'm also very surprised at the tone of your reply, seemingly implying that I'm "disruptive." Regarding "disputes" with other editors, my understanding was that Wikipedia is built through constant refinement of content between editors, so some friction is inevitable in this process. XYZ1233212 (talk) 12:03, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Would you mind taking a look at the disagreement [6] that sparked this discussion, @GWA88? I ask not only in the interest of wishing to speed up the resolution of the dispute since the encyclopedia's system says portal-related talk pages don't attract much attention, but also because you have experience to give advice on this sort of stuff since your edit history shows you've been on Wikipedia for quite some time. Crwd-ppu (talk) 20:35, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Please see this policy page [7] where it is clear what you have just done is inappropriate, as you have notified a person based on their known views who will likely support you. Such input is ineligible for deciding disputes. I suggest we follow what we've discussed before on notifying our fellow editors to keep the process legitimate. XYZ1233212 (talk) 04:03, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I've already explained my reasons for notifying @GWA88, so it's meaningless for me to respond to your aspersions. But since your comment is really directed towards GWA88, I'll let them speak for themselves. Crwd-ppu (talk) 10:59, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Tagging editors who have edited the portal on more then one day over the past week for their opinion @Alexcalamaro, @Alsoriano97, @Annh07, @ArionStar, @Bloxzge 025,@Chrism, @Claire 26@Dmhll, @User:Ecrusized, @User:ElegantEgotist, @User:Fuzheado, @User:Gianluigi02, @User:IHaveBecauseOfLocks, @User:IiSmxyzXX, @Khronicle I, @Lucy576, @Mason7512, @User:Noble Attempt, @User:Oneequalsequalsone, @User:Patrick Cristiano, @Protobowladdict, @User:QalasQalas, @User:Romanov loyalist, @User:Sbcm13, @User:Sundostund, @User:Tbhotch, @User:The Kip, @User:Toadboy123, @User:TWorkman, @User:Untamed1910, @User:אקעגן. XYZ1233212 (talk) 04:42, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    From Portal:Current events/Edit instructions, Stories added to the main portal page should be of international interest.. So I would not expect to see relatively minor incidents added to the daily pages here. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:27, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Agree. As a personal rule of thumb, I usually look for coverage from a reputable international outlet that is foreign to where the event occurred. For example, if the incident happened in the United States, I would expect to see it reported by BBC, AFP, DW, or a similar outlet based outside the U.S. or even North America. This helps filter out purely local stories and ensures that the listed events have drawn meaningful global attention. signed, Pat talk 06:58, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I broadly agree with this rule. However, I think that we should only use this as a baseline for inclusion and be more selective when including items, as I don't think every accident reported in an international newspaper is necessarily of international interest. Otherwise, the portal becomes quite overloaded. XYZ1233212 (talk) 13:25, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, it is true that this section recently covered more than before, but I do not have right now a judgement whether it is too much or not. I am generally an inclusionist. IHaveBecauseOfLocks (talk) 11:17, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I mean I just post stuff on the news with fatalities or stuff during conflicts/wars. I don't really have an input in this argument but if you want I could look for sources outside of the country. What I don't understand though is why my edit on the casualties of North Korean troops was removed as it was a significant number of deaths/injuries and was claimed by the other Korea. It wasn't in the disasters section but still was reverted so I thought I would comment on that. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 12:23, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    My concern is that during this war, the reporting of deaths has been a significantly contentious matter. Given that South Korea has a clear incentive to report inflated numbers, given the relationship between the two countries, I don't think it should be included, unless there is a special reason. Furthermore, many parties have released death estimates, which we don't normally post. XYZ1233212 (talk) 13:26, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    What particular edit are you talking about here regarding Korean casualties? IHaveBecauseOfLocks (talk) 19:22, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I am unsure that correcting 2 very minor grammatical errors makes me somehow more qualified to speak on this, but I will give my input anyways:
    1. Crwd-ppu was absolutely within rights to revert your edits, however minor the events in question might have been, just as you were able to be BOLD and remove them in the first place.
    2. This feels less like you trying to discuss the disasters section moving forward, and more like you avoiding taking this discussion to ArbCom.
    3. On what basis are you judging the events insignificant? Per Pat, it would be understandable if you had some set in stone criteria, but if all you have to go on is removing events "I feel are not significant enough", then your removals are absolutely going to be biased in some form. Your bias does seem to skew towards anti-American sentiment, at least in the reverted edits you shared. Your link #3, as an example, was a collision that injured a large number of people and got international attention. Your only reasoning given for this appears to have been that it was "not particularly impactful", but no explanation as to why.
    TWorkman (talk) 13:27, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm unfamiliar with this ArbCom you mentioned. If there's a more effective mechanism we could use to address this issue, I would appreciate learning more about it. Setting up the current discussion has been quite challenging, as I've had to manually tag individuals.
    To be honest, I don't have a specific criteria, so I've been relying on common sense. We have very limited space to summarize globally significant events each day. Given the multitude of global events in other categories, some of which impact multiple countries or the entire world simultaneously, it seems reasonable to conclude that a localized disaster affecting a relatively small amount of people wouldn't be classified at the same level of significance.
    It seems that the previous users whom commented share similar feelings on the section lately XYZ1233212 (talk) 14:10, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    +1 to TWorkman's comment. Dmhll (talk) 15:04, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Inclusion of Gaza War timeline

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    Hello! I noticed that the 'ongoing' section of the current events portal links timelines for the Russian invasion of Ukraine (from 1 January 2025 – present) and the Sudanese civil war (for 2025), but not for the Gaza war, although it has a timeline page from 18 March 2025 — present.

    I would like to suggest this timeline be linked in the same manner of the others for the current events portal going forward, i.e. Gaza war (timeline). I hope this is the right place to suggest this! I wanted to seek input before editing something that appears on the Main Page. Apologies if this has been brought up before. – Normal Name (talk) 05:34, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Was thinking the same thing. There's also now Timeline of the M23 campaign (2025) as well Kowal2701 (talk) 23:17, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Proposals for changes in the "Ongoing" section of {{In the news}} (which is shown at the top of the portal) need to be posted to Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates. —⁠andrybak (talk) 03:49, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Question about conclave ballots

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    For today, if all four ballots in the papal conclave fail to elect a Pope, should that be two entries (morning ballots and afternoon ballots) or just one entry? Gaismagorm (talk) 10:59, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Rober provast is pope Gaismagorm (talk) 17:17, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]