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August 5

August 5, 2025 (2025-08-05) (Tuesday)

Arrest Warrants for Texas Congressional Democrats

WITHDRAWN
Withdrawn by nominator — Knightoftheswords 05:17, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Greg Abbott (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Speaker of the Texas House of Representatives Dustin Burrows and Governor Greg Abbott (pictured) issue arrest warrants for Democratic state congressmen for alleged bribery and refusal to accept a redistricted congressional map. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Speaker of the Texas House of Representatives Dustin Burrows and Governor Greg Abbott (pictured) issue arrest warrants for Democratic state congressmen for alleged bribery and refusal to accept a redistricted congressional map that would favor the dominant Republican Party.
News source(s): [1][2]
Credits:
 77eagle (talk) 03:51, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose good faith nom. As said below for the firing of the economic stats person by Trump, internal politics of any nation are not good stories for ITN. Add a few other issues: that the situation over Texas redistricting should have be the target article, not Abbott, and there's questionable authority of what Abbott can actually do in this situation and the validity of the warrants. Masem (t) 03:59, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I understand. I figured a warrant on this scale wasn't an American issue, as it would be just as internationally shocking if it happened in Hungary or Colombia. If I get a few more oppositions, I'll withdraw.
Thank you-- 77eagle (talk) 04:11, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Per Masem, not even the arrest its just the warrants. Who knows if these warrants are even valid? Maybe if there's a dramatic follow-up I will support but for now I have to oppose. Hungry403 (talk) 04:32, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I also wish there was an article for the warrants, but that's not your fault. Hungry403 (talk) 04:35, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Gotcha

Red X I withdraw my nomination As promised, thanks for the feedback. 77eagle (talk) 05:04, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

August 4

August 4, 2025 (2025-08-04) (Monday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

  • Over 10,000 hotel owners in Europe, represented by the HOTREC union, file a joint lawsuit against Netherlands-based travel agency Booking.com seeking compensation for losses from 2004 to 2024, alleging that the booking agency prevented the hotels from offering lower prices on their own sites. (DW) (Reuters)

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Politics and elections

(Closed) Arrest of Jair Bolsonaro

WITHDRAW
Withdraw nomination by ArionStar ROY is WAR Talk! 00:21, 5 August 2025 (UTC) (non-admin closure)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Jair Bolsonaro (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Brazilian Supreme Federal Court justice Alexandre de Moraes issues an house arrest for former president Jair Bolsonaro (pictured). (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:
Nominator's comments: Arrest of a former huge country's leader. ArionStar (talk) 21:46, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose and wait for sentencing - simply arresting someone isn’t as significant as the crime their charged with. I could hypothetically get arrested for murder, but only be let free on the grounds of justifiable homicide. Murder isn’t the case here, but it’s the best example I could come up with. EF5 21:50, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose we did not post his indictment Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates/November 2024, since he has only been charged. This is a house arrest and basicly to assure he doesn't flee the country while the trial continues, but not a sentencing yet. Masem (t) 21:53, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Strong oppose per Masem. Departure– (talk) 22:37, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Red X I withdraw my nomination The final issue is what matters. ArionStar (talk) 23:21, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

RD: Stella Rimington

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Article: Stella Rimington (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian • Sky News
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: First female Director General of MI5 ItsShandog (talk) 16:54, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Once again, there is no precedent to have photo RDs, except in exceptional or special situations. Natg 19 (talk) 04:16, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: James Whale

Article: James Whale (presenter) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Independent
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: British radio presenter. Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 14:29, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not yet ready There are a handful of unsourced claims. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 00:52, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Shibu Soren

Article: Shibu Soren (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Times of india The hindu Hindustan Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Indian politician, Former Ministry of Coal of Inida and Former Chief Minister of Jharkhand Spworld2 (talk) 9:25, 4 August 2025 (UTC)

unsourced problem fixed, Spworld2 (talk) 05:06, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose agree per @Royiswariii unsourced and WP:CN QalasQalas (talk) 16:34, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

source added Spworld2 (talk) 05:08, 5 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

August 3

August 3, 2025 (2025-08-03) (Sunday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Law and crime

RD: Hilary Weston

Article: Hilary Weston (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [1],[2],[3]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former Lieutenant Governor of Ontario Nfitz (talk) 16:19, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Loni Anderson

Article: Loni Anderson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Associated Press, NY Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Famous American TV star of the 1970s and 1980s known for her character Jennifer Marlowe in the TV show WKRP In Cincinnati. Abebenjoe (talk) 23:25, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Tour de France Femmes

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Article: 2025 Tour de France Femmes (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In cycling, Pauline Ferrand-Prévot (pictured) wins the Tour de France Femmes. (Post)
News source(s): AFP, Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 Turini2 (talk) 17:59, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Now been updated. Turini2 (talk) 19:30, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

August 2

August 2, 2025 (2025-08-02) (Saturday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports

(Closed) US Labor Statistics

WP:SNOW
Consensus to post will not develop. WP:NAC BangJan1999 13:38, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Erika McEntarfer (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The US Commissioner of Labor Statistics, Erika McEntarfer, is fired after July's job figures were weaker than expected. (Post)
News source(s): NYT, BBC, Times of India, Sydney Morning Herald, Reuters, Straits Times, DW
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: We have a special interest in the reliability of sources and there's lots of international coverage saying that this is a significant development in this regard. Andrew🐉(talk) 06:50, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Would "jobs report" be more consistent with the jargon? Placeholderer (talk) 07:54, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've copy-edited the blurb to make it plural. Alt blurbs can be suggested in the nomination template too. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:31, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose – No notability whatsoever outside the USA. 5225C (talk • contributions) 09:32, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The news coverage is global, as noted in the nomination. In any case, WP:ITNDONT says above that we should not "Oppose an item just because the event is only relating to a single country..." Andrew🐉(talk) 10:04, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: WP:ITNR is NOT place for ONLY US Politics, similar events occured in Africa before they're denied to POST. QalasQalas (talk) 10:29, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support on significance, oppose on quality This is a significant event being covered internationally, but the article needs improvement before it's of sufficient quality for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 10:37, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose and snow close trivial and irrelevant for ITN. I don't know what you should think about what happens in other countries. _-_Alsor (talk) 11:19, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Internal politics of any nation unrelated to transitions of elected govt officials, even if widely covered in news worldwide, are never good ITN items, because it opens a whole can of worms of how far down do we allow such topics go. (Moreso per NTRUMP here). Masem (t) 12:09, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Gotitbro and Masem. NotKringe (talk) 12:46, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Half of the National Weather Service was wiped completely out but we didn’t post that. EF5 12:57, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Trump fires someone he doesn't like, more at eleven. Aydoh8[what have I done now?] 12:56, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

2025 Copa América Femenina

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Article: 2025 Copa América Femenina final (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In women's association football, the Copa América Fememina concludes with Brazil (Most Valuable Player Marta pictured) defeating Colombia in the final. (Post)
News source(s): Copa America
Credits:

Nominator's comments: 2024 Copa América final was posted. ArionStar (talk) 00:21, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note, 2024 Copa América final was ITNR, this is not. History6042😊 (Contact me) 01:44, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This may be a discussion for the talk page, but if we have a men's tournament that is ITNR, and there is an equivalent women's tourney (though here, at different times) we really should consider ITNR for the womens' tourney. Masem (t) 15:44, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. ArionStar (talk) 22:00, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Disagree, it depends on the coverage of the event- blanket statements like this fall foul of WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:42, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose a la match summary. EF5 15:48, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality match summary is sourced entirely to one primary source. Better sources should be added, as current orange tagged for over reliance on one source is correct. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:45, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support: article looks fine to me QalasQalas (talk) 10:31, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - looks good. I'm perplexed why some would say we should discriminate between the men's and women's tournaments. It's a bit heavy with primary sources rather than some more secondary sources; the primary are fine as they document the match results the best. But add a few more secondary - still good to go. Nfitz (talk) 16:07, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) British & Irish Lions tour to Australia

Consensus to post will not develop.
Aydoh8[what have I done now?] 12:53, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(non-admin closure)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: 2025 British & Irish Lions tour to Australia (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In rugby union, the British & Irish Lions win the test series against Australia's Wallabies 2-1 (Player of the Series Award winner Finn Russell pictured). (Post)
News source(s): The Independent, BBC, Australian Broadcasting Corporation
Article needs updating
Nominator's comments: We posted 2017 series, but not 2021 series. UCinternational (talk) 13:17, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. This is barely in the news even in Australia, much less internationally. It's not important enough for ITN. Steelkamp (talk) 15:45, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. The blue riband events in international rugger are the Rugby World Cup, Six Nations and The Rugby Championship. Lions tours are a bit of fun in the summer every four years, but as Steelkampbnotes, not of sufficient importance to post, even in their own countries let alone the world as a whole.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:55, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per above & the fact that this isn't ITN/R. TwistedAxe [contact] 04:04, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Having read the ITN discussion from four years ago, I'm amazed it got posted then. Neither the news coverage nor the impact is sufficient for blurbing. (As an aside, and I say this as a fan of the sport, there's already so much rugby union on ITN/R.) -- Kicking222 (talk) 12:46, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on notability While this tour has had more attention than some others, it's still getting less coverage than the women's World Cup set to start in a few weeks (which I assume will be posted). But this has too little impact in a sport that does have ample club and international events. Also, oppose on quality. While you can't expect every match in the tour to have a decent prose summary, it would be ideal if the tests did, but I still would've accepted quality if there was a sufficient reaction/aftermatch section, i.e. a post-event prose update, that would fulfill update requirements to have the article actually indicate the event has concluded and how. But the only non-list-y prose is in the 'schedule' section, which wouldn't be sufficient in the first place and also hasn't been updated so is still talking about the tour as happening in future. Kingsif (talk) 16:43, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on notability the coverage level of this is insufficient to meet WP:ITNSIGNIF. Joseph2302 (talk) 07:47, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

August 1

August 1, 2025 (2025-08-01) (Friday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Business and economy

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

(Posted) RD: Jeannie Seely

Article: Jeannie Seely (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://people.com/jeannie-seely-dead-age-85-country-singer-grand-ole-opry-staple-8693403
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American country singer. Article needs some cleanup Onegreatjoke (talk) 02:33, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support Article is of sufficient quality for ITN. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 04:33, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support Article in good shape. What a voice! so sad to hear of her death RIP. Josey Wales Parley 20:57, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support article is in good shape for ITN. Bloxzge 025 (talk) 21:19, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support per above supports. Well-referenced and comprehensive article. Jusdafax (talk) 00:06, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

July 31

July 31, 2025 (2025-07-31) (Thursday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Arts and culture

Disasters and accidents

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Science and technology

RD: Lena Cronqvist

Article: Lena Cronqvist (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Aftonbladet (in Danish)
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Swedish artist, focused on art depicting mother and child, based on her own biography. She had a short but decent article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:14, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Flaco Jiménez

Article: Flaco Jiménez (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NPR
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American tejano singer-songwriter and accordionist. 240F:7A:6253:1:C169:FDC8:8126:DD5B (talk) 18:17, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Just to explain my edit from earlier today; I regularly check Category:Pages using Template:Infobox musical artist with unknown parameters (and some other Category: pages for pages using Infoboxes with incorrect parameters). I did notice that Flaco Jiménez had passed away very recently, and the only changes that I made related to him having passed away was replacing the current_member_of parameter in the infobox with the past_member_of parameter. Since he'd very recently passed away, it didn't feel pertient for me to make any real changes in the tone of the article or look for language in present tense (I also didn't attempt to verify any sources used to cite he'd passed away). Gurkubondinn (talk) 18:57, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not yet ready The discography is unsourced. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 23:09, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Allan Ahlberg

Article: Janet and Allan Ahlberg (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: English children's book author. Date death announced. Ollieisanerd (talk • contribs) 22:10, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Syed Tanveer-ul-Hassan Gillani

Article: Syed Tanveer-ul-Hassan Gillani (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): APP
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Ainty Painty (talk) 07:45, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose Leads makes several claims that are not backed up nor elaborated on in the article, no specified birth date, article was very recently made (likely the cause of most of these quality issues). Cheers, atque supra! Fakescientist8000 10:51, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose As per @Fakescientist8000 above. Also: the name of RD's cousin (former president Yusuf Raza Gilani) is spelled 'Gilani' not 'Gillani' (as per article nominated) - a cursory search and a couple of the references suggest the same discrepancy - is the article/name spelled correctly? Montezuma69 (talk) 22:10, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ongoing: 2025 Cambodia–Thailand border conflict

Article: 2025 Cambodia–Thailand border conflict (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
News source(s): Thairath EAC
Credits:

Nominator's comments: The ceasefire doesn't hold and fighting still continues. Since there are regular updates on both sides, I think this could fit better in the ongoing section. NotKringe (talk) 09:03, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support, clashes are still ongoing here, would just be easier to put this in ongoing
Personisinsterest (talk) 19:18, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support ArionStar (talk) 20:36, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wait a few days – Both countries are at least nominally committed to the ceasefire. While violations sometimes happen in the following days (like in the 2025 India–Pakistan conflict), it isn't clear yet if they're going to progressively calm down or flare up again. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 23:20, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

July 30

July 30, 2025 (2025-07-30) (Wednesday)

Armed conflicts and attacks

Disasters and accidents

International relations

Science and technology

RD: Linda McGill

Article: Linda McGill (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/news/tokyo-olympian-and-english-channel-conqueror-linda-mcgill-dies-on-the-gold-coast-at-79/
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Australian champion swimmer who swam the English Channel topless HiLo48 (talk) 08:00, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: David Argue

Article: David Argue (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [4], [5]
Credits:

Article needs updating
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Happily888 (talk) 15:12, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, far too short. History6042😊 (Contact me) 01:48, 3 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Reviewers' attention required, please!) RD: George Nigh

Article: George Nigh (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [6]
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 --Engineerchange (talk) 20:55, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Laura Dahlmeier

Article: Laura Dahlmeier (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [7]
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 --BlackEyedLion (talk) 13:33, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2025 Kamchatka Peninsula earthquake

Article: 2025 Kamchatka Peninsula earthquake (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ An earthquake with a magnitude of Mw  8.8 strikes off the coast of the Kamchatka Peninsula, Russia, triggering tsunami warnings across the Pacific Ocean. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ An earthquake with a magnitude of Mw​ 8.8, the sixth-most powerful in recorded history, strikes off the coast of the Kamchatka Peninsula, Russia, triggering tsunami warnings across the Pacific Ocean
Alternative blurb II: ​ A Mw 8.8 earthquake strikes off the coast of the Kamchatka Peninsula, Russia, triggering tsunami warnings across the Pacific Ocean.
News source(s): [8]…
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Magnitude 8.7 earthquake, making it the 7th (correction: 8th) most powerful earthquake in the recorded history. No reports of fatalities yet, but probably because too early to tell. Tsunami warning has been issued as well as far as western Canada --2A02:C6C1:E:206:0:0:0:2 (talk) 00:45, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Wait - this could seriously be devastating, but simply being strong doesn’t merit a blurb on it’s own. EF5 00:52, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait until impacts are known. According to this USGS source, eighth largest since... ever, but based on impacts, the sparsely populated Kamchatka region has significantly less population density than many places struck by previous earthquakes of this magnitude and I think we ought to at least see what impacts come about from this before putting it on the main page. Based on the shear intensity (assuming 0 deaths and little damage) I'm leaning oppose, but I'm not holding my breath for the parenthetical WP:CRYSTAL part. Departure– (talk) 00:55, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
FYI, a “destructive tsunami” is expected to hit the entirety of Hawaii in around four hours and the entire west coast is threatened. Earthquakes of this magnitude over water tend to produce large tsunamis, and this one could be destructive. EF5 01:00, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I don't doubt that the tsunami is the thing to watch for determining impacts from this event. I heard most recently they're expecting about 1 meter tall in Japan (which, to be fair, is nothing to sneeze at, but if I recall the last time a tsunami scare happened the tsunami was only about 2 inches). Here's something you don't see every day: tsunami watch in effect for the Bay Area and more for Southern California. Departure– (talk) 01:04, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Even rarer is the fact that Ecuador was mentioned as a threatened area with a tsunami of >3m. EF5 01:14, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Kamchatcka may be sparsely populated, but of course with nature's luck it struck very close to the province's only city, just 80 miles or so from Petropavlosk. Curbon7 (talk) 01:13, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Regional minister Sergei Lebedev (who I don't think is the same as this Sergey Lebedev) said only one building sustained damage and no injuries have been reported; then again, it's been less than an hour, and it's also Russia. Departure– (talk) 01:14, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait - red PAGER means it's probably gonna be bad, but that's kinda WP:CRYSTAL. Impacts unknown so far.
WFUM🔥🌪️ (talk) 01:02, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There was no immediate consensus to post, with several "waits" in place to see what type of damage may have occurred. There was zero need to post this soon. Masem (t) 04:41, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As always with ITN, there were a diversity of opinions and "waits" are not necessarily weighted any more heavily than supports. I'd endorse Schwede's reading of finding adequate consensus to post. Ed [talk] [OMT] 04:54, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
isnt the main criterion for this place for something to literally be, you know, in the news? Like you may not like it, but this earthquake is the top news worldwide rn so why not post it based on that alone ? 2A02:C6C1:E:206:0:0:0:2 (talk) 04:56, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Because we knew it happened, but we does not know how much of an actual impact it have yet? Imo, I think we should have waited for news of the tangible impact aside from typical tsunami warnings, just in case it ended up being a nothingburger. NotKringe (talk) 05:08, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We don't need to wait to post the sixth-most powerful earthquake in recorded history. Thriley (talk) 05:10, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ITN is not suited for the posting of superlatives (like the Nth largest earthquake) if that's the only thing that can be said. If it were the Nth largest quake which killed dozens of people or demolished a large number of buildings, that's an appropriate ITN item. Absent that, then DYK is a far better place (given that the article would meet the DYK requirements) Masem (t) 12:23, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For example, we had the third-most-powerful tornado in recorded history last year, but I seriously doubt it would have been posted as only 5 people died. This was wrongfully posted and I have no idea why it isn’t being pulled. EF5 12:29, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
7 Supports and 6 Waits passes as consensus within 4 hours of a discussion starting these days? DarkSide830 (talk) 05:39, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Given ITN has unique time constraints relative to elsewhere within the encyclopedia, there is something to be said for consensus decisions being made more quickly here, especially once the conceivable arguments for or against are more or less made out (which was the case here: there was a case for waiting for damage and a case for posting the earthquake in its own right). When discussions are allowed to boil on and on just for the sake of increasing the !vote tally, we end up with a stale mess like the Hulk Hogan nomination. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 05:50, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There is still no need to rush any posting at ITN until a clear consensus has emerged, and in particular, posting four hours after an event when a good half of the readership of WP is asleep (EU in this case) is not great. Certainly was not a SNOW condition here, so it could have easily waited for more input after 12-some hours as well as to assess if there was any death or damage toll to be included (a common step we have done for most other disaster related articles, even if numbers go up after the fact). Masem (t) 12:30, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The way I saw it, it was five waits, followed mostly by supports. There's also something for the order in which editors give their opinion here. Schwede66 05:55, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for not waiting on this. Earthquakes are momentary/minutes long and damage can be assessed after, but tsunamis can last for hours/a day or so and there is sometimes time to prepare. For this kind of natural disaster, we can amplify warnings and get the word out. -TenorTwelve (talk) 05:44, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    That’s not the point of ITN. EF5 12:13, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    ITN, nor WP at large, is meant to be used to give timely alerts about immediate events, whether disaster, medical, or other aspect. That's against our disclaimers. Masem (t) 12:21, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Post-posting support clearly notable with this magnitude and the article is in pretty good shape for the information coming out. orangesclub 🍊 06:41, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Pull and wait. There was a clear absence of consensus for this with many voices saying wait above. It's a large earthquake, sure, and widely reported in the ticker press, but we're not a ticker and thankfully the impact looks to be not large at present. If that changes then we would reevaluate then. Posting this was premature IMHO.  — Amakuru (talk) 06:44, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose pull The article has lots of good technical detail and so readers will not be disappointed. The topic is in the news -- the NYT has several lead articles about it, for example. Let's just go with the flow... Andrew🐉(talk) 07:01, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose pull and update when we know more This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 07:35, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Post-posting support The earthquake is significant and widely reported in the media, and the article documents it in a way that clearly demonstrates significance.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:49, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Post-posting support It's quite possible that this event will have few casualties, but that doesn't matter. Rather, this has been a huge story that has been by definition wholly international, occupying the entire international news space. The lack of casualties would be a testament to modern alert & communication systems... Which means that on many facets, this is a subject of intense encyclopedic interest. Nottheking (talk) 08:28, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Post-posting support meets WP:ITNSIGNIF as the front page news in a number of countries. And article clearly meets WP:ITNQUALITY. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:47, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Where is it front page news @Joseph2302? It's on page A4 here, next to an article about a Limo driver being charged with impaired driving, and Alberta separation. It didn't even make the other newspaper I get in print. Nfitz (talk) 10:42, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Literally take your pick. BBC. AP. Aljazeera. Fox. CNN. Dozens of others. Not sure about “print” but use the computer you’re currently on to search any news website and I’m guessing it’ll be on the front page. Nubzor (T | C) 13:27, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Epstein has been in the headlines for weeks, but it isn’t like we’d post that. EF5 13:32, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I said nothing of Epstein. But thanks for the comparison. Nubzor (T | C) 13:35, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    My point is that simply being in the news doesn’t merit posting; one death in an earthquake is barely anything (we’ve had multiple tornadoes this year kill more than that and not even be brought up for posting). And we can civilly have a discussion, y’know… EF5 13:37, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I understand. I was merely pointing out that it is indeed on the front page of every news site I took 60 seconds to search. So the other user should have no problem finding one too. Nubzor (T | C) 13:45, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Hundreds if not thousands of topics can be found at online websites. And with today's algorithms, front-page is often generated for each user. You don't see the same BBC headlines if you are in the UK compared to the USA - where obviously stay off the beach warnings were almost warranted in some locations - even if the Tsunami never happened. I see as many mentions of the 2026 World Cup at Al Jazeera as the Tsunami (and no news of the Tsunami - it just features in the list of popular articles). I'm not familiar with AP (https://americanpress.com/ ?) but I don't even see a mention of the quake. This false alarm had it's 15 minutes. I can't even see a mention of any injuries, let alone hospitalizations and deaths! With very minimal damage. The only surprise I see, is that there's actually a city of near 150,000 in Kamchatka! Nfitz (talk) 21:53, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Post-posting support per Joseph2032 and others. A notable event despite a lack of injuries and damage. ITN does not need to be a "damage" or "disaster" ticker. Additional , I hate the back and forth yo-yoing of pulling from the main page. Natg 19 (talk) 15:48, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Do we have an update on the tsunami? It's been sixteen hours and the current blurb wording suggests the tsunami warnings are the most recent thing to go down, and despite the tsunami being the real news story here, the article doesn't have any impacts written on it for anywhere outside of Russia (other parts of the world where the tsunami struck just have warnings issued, warnings cancelled, and how tall the tsunami was). I'm honestly going to say strong pull if the blurb isn't revised and/or the article lacks serious detail about the impacts of the tsunami for much longer.
Also, a quick note on a few of the above points. ITN doesn't necessarily need to post the strongest of anything; last year had Hurricane Milton, the fourth strongest hurricane on record, posted due to its extreme intensity, but then again, the Greenfield tornado a few months earlier wasn't even nominated even though it was the third strongest tornado ever objectively recorded. I am of the opinion that ITN should be very hesitant posting the sixth strongest of anything on the merit of being the sixth strongest, especially when such little damage is known and brought up in the article.
An earthquake that causes tsunami warnings is not ITN-worthy. I'm glad we're giving a more scientific showcase of the article (the geologic aspect of which has been lovingly brought to quality by members of Wikipedia:WikiProject Earthquakes no doubt), but all that's detailed is tsunami warnings and a big wave, and a few injuries. Departure– (talk) 16:12, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
None of the tsunamis caused severe infrastructure damage iirc. EF5 16:18, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The high waves that were create did hit the US thus morning but thats all they were, high waves, not damaging in any regard. Masem (t) 16:19, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Post-posting support Despite the lack of any major effects or impact, I think the severity of the earthquake (one of the highest ever recorded?) is enough to warrant a blurb. I like seeing scientific ITN blurbs without death in them, and I think this one fits right in. Hungry403 (talk) 16:54, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Pull: this was posted too soon. Even though the earthquake was very strong, it caused minimal damage. This was posted before the tsunami made any significant landfall. It was only in the news because there was a large tsunami warning, but just because there is a warning doesn't mean there will actually be significant impact. And in this case, there wasn't. Less than 24 hours after the earthquake and in the NYTimes this article is buried underneath articles about Trump tariffs/foreign policy, Brazil & Lula, US economy, something about the IRS, the Manhattan shooting, a rollercoaster guide, DC plane crash hearings, Jason Momoa, US Senate, and the Middle East & Gaza.  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 16:56, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    What's the fascination with the NY Times tho? Howard the Duck (talk) 17:11, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    No reason in particular. I only brought it up because someone above said that this was front page all over the world. NYTimes is just my go to newspaper of record.  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 17:18, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Post-posting support I'm surprised about the pull comments (including by an Admin who, if I'm not mistaken, posted the recent Dhaka fighter plane crash within 4 hours after just two Supports). As others have stated, ITN is not a death chronicle. We frequently post natural events with few or no deaths, including solar eclipses. 8.8 magnitude earthquakes are rarer than solar eclipses, there were news updates in the media the whole day, and a volcano in Kamchatka just erupted because of it. If this is not ITN, I don't know what is. Khuft (talk) 17:02, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, ITN isn't just about deaths, but equally we routinely don't post many natural disasters events that do have death tolls as well as economic damage, while this happily appears to have very little of either. I can understand that this morning this seemed to have very devastating potential, but that hasn't materialised and the whole point of the calls to "wait" was so we could know whether it really was of the calibre we'd post. As it transpires, it clearly isn't, at least per past precedence. IMHO the posting really should have been held off until that was clear because there's no deadline on this. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 17:16, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The volcano has been going for a week; that’s just the media being the media. EF5 17:33, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support Fourth-most powerful earthquake of the 21st century; the only more powerful earthquakes were Fukushima and the 2004 Indian Ocean earthquake/tsunami. Despite the lack of damage, the power of the earthquake alone is enough to be notable. Anything above 8.0 should be posted on power alone (even above 7.0 should be considered), never mind casualties. NorthernFalcon (talk) 17:11, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Why is power alone notable for ITN?  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 17:17, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Why not? A) ITN is about featuring events that take place in the news, and this event is clearly in the news; B) Wikipedia is about featuring encyclopedic content, and strong earthquakes are clearly encyclopedic-style content. NorthernFalcon (talk) 17:36, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Post-posting support - it's in the news, it's objectively significant (one of the top 10 earthquakes ever recorded), article quality sufficient. As WP:ITN says, The "In the news" (ITN) section on the Main Page serves to direct readers to articles that have been substantially updated to reflect recent or current events of wide interest. This article counts, it's worldwide news. The "wait" votes that were based on nobody dying were properly discounted because there is no minimum body count requirement (and it's macabre that some editors seem to insist on one). It never ceases to surprise me how stingy some editors are about what to post: ITN should not be limited to sports, elections, and death. Levivich (talk) 17:17, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, alright; let me give a bit more into my !vote:
  • The article currently lacks any in-depth mention of "devastation" or damage in the impact except in Russia.
  • It seems inappropriate to give a casualty count. WP:MINIMUMDEATHS isn't a thing but at the same time other events of similar scope have been shot down from being posted due to having few total impacts (of which casualties is a big part), and one person driving off a cliff evacuating is by no means enough for me to count as an impact.
  • The current blurb mentions "tsunami warnings" instead of "a tsunami" (as something that's already happened).
  • A lot of the wait !votes, including my own, mentioned that we need to wait for impacts before posting.
    • Such impacts have not materialized.
  • As I brought up earlier, the sixth strongest of anything is not ITN-worthy by itself without accompanying imminent or materialized impacts (such as Hurricane Milton or the 2011 Tohoku earthquake and tsunami).
  • The evacuations and tsunami warnings themselves0 seem to be the real story here, and even then, warnings don't mean anything if a tsunami doesn't happen (unless something happens during the evacuation itself).
  • As of now, make my !vote (see my other two above - will strike shortly) a strong pull on quality. The article is dreadfully sparse with details of how this event is notable - the impacts of this event outside of Russia's Far East are limited to wave heights, warnings being issued, and injuries evacuating in Japan.
  • ITN does not have any set-in-stone minimum as to the intensity of an event for it to be posted. God knows how many Category 5 hurricanes we've completely skipped over for not doing anything except causing waves out at sea. This wasn't the strongest ever, it was the sixth-strongest recorded and the strongest in 14 years - and it struck a sparsely populated area and had little impact.
I wouldn't be so strong in my opposition if the Tri Brata rock formation collapsed (as the article reported earlier), but it didn't. Barring a consensus to pull, I really don't know if I see a consensus to keep this article up. Departure– (talk) 17:48, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You linked directly to the article, @Sahaib, of course it's there. As is the report about the Queen dying this morning and numerous stories about 2019 flooding in the West Midlands. Should we blurb those as well? Besides, the front-page of BBC is tailored individually. The very first article I see is about Canada/Palestine relations - but I bet that's not what you see. Nfitz (talk) 21:58, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That is what I see. It's not tailored individually, at least not for logged out visitors, although the UK (bbc.co.uk) and international (bbc.com) are different. Btw, AP is Associated Press (apnews.com). Levivich (talk) 22:24, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This story led NBC Nightly News tonight, for what that's worth. And the BBC's logged out homepage does has that story about Canada/Palestine, but it also has a story about the earthquake right next to it (in the top right corner). Ed [talk] [OMT] 01:39, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment So many !votes are citing a lack of casualties or damage as the basis to pull. But where does policy require this in order for something to be "in the news"? If it's on the front page of every major publication across all seven continents, caused millions to evacuate their homes, drew statements from world leaders, why is that not enough? It is like we are collectively imagining a "buildings need to have tumbled and people need to have died" requirement for noteworthiness when none exists. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 23:51, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    [W]here does policy require this in order for something to be "in the news"? - per WP:ITNCRIT: It is highly subjective whether an event is considered significant enough, and ultimately each event should be discussed on its own merits and a lack of casualies or damage seem like a fair reason not to support having such content posted. Departure– (talk) 23:58, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Once again, ITN has no real policies or real guidelines governing significance besides "try to form consensus". Natg 19 (talk) 00:25, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Your excerpt accentuates my point: ultimately each event should be discussed on its own merits. An oppose !vote solely on the basis that there must be casualties or damages for an event to be notable is a rigid and formulaic rule, as opposed to an individualized assessment on the event's own merits. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 04:44, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Eh, not really. To me, things have to be impactful to be notable, and that’s my interpretation of ITNCRIT. EF5 12:00, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
An oppose !vote solely on the basis that there must be casualties or damages for an event to be notable is a rule that some follow and goes hand in hand with an individualized assessment on the event's own merits - if an event doesn't have the "merit" of causing significant loss of life, then those that see loss of life as a defining factor for an event such as this will oppose posting it. Departure– (talk) 14:47, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment "...triggering tsunami warnings across the Pacific Ocean" should be updated as it's been 28 hours since the event. I would propose removing mention of the tsunami if the tsunami's human toll remains limited and indirect. Replacing the tsunami part with the earthquake's superlatives (e.g. strongest since since 2011 or 6th strongest) may be a good idea as that seems to be the main argument of post-posting supporters. 93 (talk) 04:51, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment That's literally a tsunami of post-posting comments. Schwede66 05:20, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Comment I assumed that has to do with the blurb giving the event far more exposure than it should've been. I've noticed that after people noticed that the "tsunami" is nowhere near as threatening at one feared, the news faded as quick as it came. So, in hindsight, I would've opposed this blurb. NotKringe (talk) 08:45, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Well yeah; there was no time to weigh in before posting. GreatCaesarsGhost 14:56, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Well "The tsunami that wasn't" doesn't make for an entire news cycle now does it. An encyclopedia should never let the hypewagon drive its content. Gotitbro (talk) 20:41, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: I've added an orange {{expand section}} to the Aftermath section and it's been up for a few hours. The section only has one sentence and if this is going to be on the main page I at least want to see more than one sentence there. Departure– (talk) 16:06, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think a fundamental lesson here is that if we have a news item that will have some imminent direct result (here, word of damage from the quake or the tsunami), we should not consider posting until the article can address those immediate effects or the known lack of them. Note that this is different from rising death tolls in the wake of an event, once it's established that a large number of deaths occurred - additional death numbers don't change that initial impact. Whether this should have then been posted about being one the strongest known quakes, but now with the article acknowledging that it had little net impact, is an open question, but at least at that stage we can judge the quality of the complete event. Masem (t) 20:51, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In this case, the immediate effects were the tsunami warnings and Klyuchevskaya Sopka's eruption, and the article had already addressed them before this was posted. The problem is that 'Tsunami' is a separate section even though it ideally fits as a sub-section of 'Aftermath', so the article leaves impression that the aftermath is poorly documented.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:19, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Tsunami warnings are not immediate effects. Whether or not the tsunamis actually caused significant damage when they hit the various coasts is what are the immediate effects that should have been present in the article before it was posted. Similarly, with the eruption, there was no impact from that, but the posting should have waited until that was confirmed. Masem (t) 02:44, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

July 29

July 29, 2025 (2025-07-29) (Tuesday)

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RD: David Tartakover

Article: David Tartakover (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Times of Israel
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: A few citations needed Mooonswimmer 15:34, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Morton Mintz

Article: Morton Mintz (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NY Times
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Pioneering consumer affairs journalist. Death reported 29 July. Thriley (talk) 03:57, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • The career section currently has zero footnotes. None of her books listed in the string of bullet-points after the prose has a source. Please add more REFs and ISBNs. --PFHLai (talk) 01:26, 4 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Doris Gercke

Article: Doris Gercke (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Stern
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: German author, representing working class and women in novels, children's books and poetry, whose thrillers about a woman investigator inspired a popular tv series running for decades - there was a decent short article. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:02, 31 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Paul Mario Day

Article: Paul Mario Day (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NME
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former lead vocalist of Iron Maiden. 240F:7A:6253:1:D95F:1A6C:F1CF:F2C3 (talk) 08:17, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support Needs expansion, but sufficient quality for front page. –DMartin 23:34, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • With barely 300+ words of prose, this wikibio seems a bit too stubby. Anything more to write about this guy? There is no section on his early life/education/upbringing/music training... etc. That's where in the main prose the date and place of birth should appear with a footnote. Also missing is the place of death with a footnote that should be in the death section. And, the intro has only a single sentence, so {{lead too short}} applies. --PFHLai (talk) 13:43, 2 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Michael Hill

Article: Michael Hill (entrepreneur) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Ruru, Karanama (2025-07-29), "Jeweller Sir Michael Hill dies", Stuff, retrieved 2025-07-29
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 01:17, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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