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May 8

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May 8, 2025 (2025-05-08) (Thursday)

Disasters and accidents

Politics and elections

May 7

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May 7, 2025 (2025-05-07) (Wednesday)

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(Closed) Ongoing: 2025 papal conclave

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Editors disagree that this is "unprecedented". Schwede66 23:21, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: 2025 papal conclave (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
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Nominator's comments: Unprecedented process so not the usual electoral nomination, top news worldwide will likely last a few days. Abcmaxx (talk) 21:27, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not a regular occurrence though is it? Especially as the last one was 12 years ago. Abcmaxx (talk) 22:15, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I would agree that it is not "regular" (every 4 years etc), but unprecedented is incorrect. Natg 19 (talk) 22:36, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe the fact that it is happening in the extremely digitalised world of messengers, smartphones, so that it can be followed live, but I am also interested in the answer. BilboBeggins (talk) 22:29, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well, Francis’ was also in the digitized age. 2013 wasn’t the caveman era! EF5 22:32, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose since the bulk takes place behind closed doors, the only reporting we can do is "nope, wasn't selected today". The selection will very likely be a good standalone itnc, but the process is not. Masem (t) 22:28, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Instead of nominating "Ongoing" event of Papal conclave, i will rather agree for nominate a blurb about the result of the conclave (which is similar to how ITNR does). The result of the conclave will be declared either on May 8 or 9, depending of white smoke from Vatican's chimney. 103.111.102.118 (talk) 22:48, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose this was nominated yesterday (and failed), we also don't post elections to ongoing. Aydoh8[what have I done now?] 23:09, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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May 6

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May 6, 2025 (2025-05-06) (Tuesday)

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RD: Joseph Nye

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Article: Joseph Nye (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Nikkei Asia, The Harvard Crimson
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 240F:7A:6253:1:DD5F:9F93:4BE7:236D (talk) 05:57, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support missing some citations but overall seems comprehensive enough, and doesn't have any glaring flaws V. L. Mastikosa (talk) 07:33, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Ongoing: 2025 India–Pakistan standoff (again)

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This was recently discussed. I/P is posted now and ongoing in that context can be discussed when appropriate. Stephen 02:08, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: 2025 India–Pakistan standoff (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
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Nominator's comments: Mainly due to the 2025 Indian missile strike on Pakistan. ArionStar (talk) 23:27, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose at this time We clearly should post the recent strikes, and then if there's continued hostilities, then move to ongoing. We shouldn't bypass a blurb for this. Masem (t) 00:06, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Same argument as the last discussion: if it continues, if it continues… The crisis is going on! ArionStar (talk) 00:30, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose if a full-scale war breaks out, we could consider posting it for ongoing, but right now it's 'only' missile strikes and plane shootdowns, besides which it's already covered by the ITN item just below. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 01:46, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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(Pulled) Indian missile strikes on Pakistan

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Article: 2025 India–Pakistan strikes (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ India launches missile strikes on multiple cities in Pakistan. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Pakistan retaliates after Indian missile strikes.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Pakistan retaliates with missile strikes after India strikes several cities in Pakistan.
News source(s): tribune.com.pk Sky News
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Nominator's comments: Developing story, currently updating it. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 20:32, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wait on notability (likely will roll to support at some point). Strong oppose on quality. As you say, it's a developing story. Departure– (talk) 20:43, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Per the sources, all flights at New Islamabad International Airport are suspended, the strikes resulted in one death and two injuries. Pakistan's air force is mobilized, and their defense minister claims an escalation of conflict is imminent. India claims strikes were targeted at some variant of terrorist sites in Jammu and Kashmir region. The limited scope should be specified in the blurb. Departure– (talk) 20:46, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Departure–: article has been expanded. Natg 19 (talk) 21:14, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support Major escalation between two nuclear powers but Oppose on quality as of now edit: it Appears to be in good quality now but some of it reads like a bit much like AI LLM Von bismarck (talk) 20:46, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with that last point, I did put the {{ai-generated}} banner, but it has been removed without explanation. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 22:22, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support Notable development between two nuclear-armed neighbors, article is now in sufficient quality to be posted on the Main Page (thank you to the editors who quickly did this!) Nice4What (talk · contribs) – (Thanks ♥) 21:03, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support This has become a major escalation, especially now that Pakistan vowed to retaliate. Article looks to be of fine quality now. PrimalMustelid (talk) 21:44, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support, article could do with more improvement though. Nowhere does the article say cities were targeted, maybe on multiple sites in Pakistan, claimed to be "terrorist infrastructure". The response can be added to the blurb when it happens, worth starting an ongoing nomination if this goes beyond the two exchanges. Kowal2701 (talk) 21:45, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article was in a state of flux, but now it does look like it is mentioning the cities that have been targeted (Muzaffarabad, Kotli, Bahawalpur and Muridke). Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 22:21, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Edit: Apparently, Muridke isn't mentioned in the sources at all, I have removed it. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 22:29, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support, no question on notability. BilboBeggins (talk) 23:02, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support Obviously. ArionStar (talk) 23:29, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support Alt2, the first blurb doesn't inlcude any details regarding Pakistans response, while Alt1 leaves out how Pakistan responded, and overall feels rough V. L. Mastikosa (talk) 02:54, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Papal Conclave

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No consensus to post an election until the result is announced. Stephen 23:15, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: 2025 papal conclave (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The papal conclave starts in Rome. (Post)
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Nominator's comments: With the papal conclave starting tomorrow (7th May), I propose to post it. Once a new pope gets elected, the blurb can be replaced by "Cardinal XYZ is elected Pope ABC". Conclave article is quite comprehensive; propose posting only on the 7th. Khuft (talk) 19:27, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait until the new pope is chosen. The last several conclaves have only taken two days, I don't see a point in posting the beginning of the conclave when it'll need to be replaced a day later. Estreyeria (talk) 19:35, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait on principle. I actually sympathize in spirit with the conclave itself being newsworthy, but the issue is that we have an article quality criterion for a reason. We should guide readers to visit the bolded article only once it has met our quality standards. Even if it is "ok" now, if we preemptively post it before the "main event" so to speak (the selection of a new pope), then we won't be able to make a quality assessment about the article's substantive coverage of the conclave and the new pope (checking for adequate prose, references, readability, etc), before it goes up on the main page. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 19:36, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait until the next pope is elected. Natg 19 (talk) 21:07, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose and suggest close. This is premature. Assuming article quality is up to scratch, the actual election of the new pope will be posted per ITNR. -Ad Orientem (talk) 21:59, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait until a new pope is actually chosen. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 22:46, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Propose adding to ongoing. BilboBeggins (talk) 23:03, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Disagree, this will likely only take a few days, and won't receive the amount of regular updates that ongoing items usually have. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 23:08, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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(Closed) Red Sea crisis

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Consensus will not develop to post without an escalation. Stephen 23:59, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Red Sea crisis (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item nomination (Post)
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Nominator's comments: This has been ongoing for a while now, and I've just noticed that it isn't in ITN 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 15:32, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support targeting United States attacks in Yemen (March 2025–present). It's essentially undeclared war. Bremps... 17:56, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose It wasn’t a big deal in the first place and there’s a ceasefire now. Personisinsterest (talk) 19:38, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - ceasefire just happened between the US and the houthis so this conflict isn't really that important for ongoing now. Onegreatjoke (talk) 23:28, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Israeli strikes yesterday and today were limited/retaliatory and unlikely to routinely continue, while the U.S. just announced they’ve reached a ceasefire for their strikes. The Kip (contribs) 23:50, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) German new Chancellor

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Article: Friedrich Merz (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Germany's Bundestag elects Friedrich Merz (pictured) as the Chancellor of Germany in the second vote, following a unprecedented failure to elect him in the first vote. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Friedrich Merz (pictured) is elected Chancellor of Germany and sworn in alongside his cabinet.
Alternative blurb II: ​ A coalition government led by newly-elected Chancellor Friedrich Merz (pictured) is formed in Germany.
News source(s): The New York Times, The Guardian, DW news
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Article updated
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Nominator's comments: I know in normal time this is not worth ITN as it is a 'procedural vote', but today's vote is first time in Federal Republic of Germany's history that the Bundestag elects a chancellor canadiate in the second vote, so I feel it might worth ITN. But still let community decides. Haers6120 (talk) 14:23, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Strong oppose per Kiril Simeonovski. Departure– (talk) 14:54, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I removed the ITNR tag, because per WP:ITNR, it only applies to Changes, reelections or reappointments in the holder of the office which administer the executive of their respective state/government, in those countries which qualify under the criteria above, as listed at List of current heads of state and government except when that change was already posted as part of a general election. We already posted the election. The posted blurb then was In the German federal election, the CDU/CSU, led by Friedrich Merz (pictured), wins the most seats in the Bundestag, so this was already posted. Departure– (talk) 16:58, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I read this in the exact opposite way. The emphasis in my opinion is the CDU/CSU parliamentary victory, not the leadership of Merz. My reading of that ITNR note is that we should not post the same story twice, e.g. the election of Donald Trump and the inauguration of Donald Trump, so this does not qualify, as a parliamentary election is not the same story as the changing of a German chancellor. Without knowing anything about German politics, I would not assume that these are the same story. Natg 19 (talk) 17:19, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose given that we typically post the result of the election itself, not subsequent appointment itself. Especially given that the outcome which was widely expected, ultimately did happen. If Merz failed to get elected on the second attempt and/or had to step down as a Chancellor candidate, then it clearly would be so notable that it should be posted. In any case, the first blurb should not be used the way it is phrased. It sounds a tad too sensationalistic for ITN. It would be better phrased as "after failing to secure a majority in the first round". Gust Justice (talk) 15:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - election result was already posted. nableezy - 15:11, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Arguably this isn't the election result; it's the result of the coalition agreement being formed. If different parties banded together Merz wouldn't be chancellor since it isn't the general election that decides who the chancellor will be, rather it is dependant on how the subsequent negotiations go. ✨  4 🧚‍♂am KING  22:20, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support- election result is one thing, actual change of the head of the government is another. It was not 100% certain that Merz would become the Chancellor, that depended on the coalition agreement.Wi1-ch (talk) 15:18, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support This is in the news and quite significant. In any case, it's clearly ITN/R as the Chancellor heads the executive and the first vote shows that this wasn't a sure thing. Andrew🐉(talk) 15:21, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. This is the same case as when Donald Trump was inaugurated. We posted the election with a big picture if Merz, so we don't post the inauguration, even though there was a bit of drama and it's a couple of months later. If someone else had ended up being Chancellor them of course that would be a different thing.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:41, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This election seems more akin to the Speaker of the House election in the United States - typically a mere formality but in recent years a contested event. Unsure if this chancellor election/change meets ITN. Natg 19 (talk) 17:09, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Alt II per ITNR. Article quality is adequate. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:05, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    This is not ITNR. nableezy - 16:21, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support original blurb This is a change in leader, which is ITN/R. The fact that he was not elected on the first vote is also noteworthy and doesn't really lengthen the blurb too much, so I would prefer that in the blurb. --SpectralIon 17:10, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • On second thought I support Alt1 and believe this does meet ITN/R , as this is a change of head of government. The previous blurb that was posted was for the parliamentary election (In the German federal election, the CDU/CSU, led by Friedrich Merz (pictured), wins the most seats in the Bundestag), not for the election of the chancellor. Natg 19 (talk) 17:16, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Federal election already posted on 24 February: In the German federal election, the CDU/CSU, led by Friedrich Merz (pictured), wins the most seats in the Bundestag. per Departure. Grimes2 17:33, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The story here is that just because he leads the largest party, and as negotiated a coalition agreement, him becoming chancellor was not a formality, even though everyone thought it would be. Also, the election was over two months ago - even if it were the same story (which it isn't) it wouldn't be problematic to post it again after such a long interval. Thryduulf (talk) 17:48, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support Alt2 per ITNR. Sure the election already happened, but it wasn't a formal change of government as we still didn't know what the coalition's composition would be. Scuba 18:55, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I agree this is technically not ITNR because the election result itself was already posted. However, I would analogize this situation to how we have, in the past, posted two blurbs related to Mark Carney and also other countries with parliamentary systems. One vote about a new PM becoming the new Prime Minister, and another about the election itself. Even though both aren't ITNR and they are two related events part of the same overarching "story", in the circumstances they both could be notable enough to warrant an independent blurb. The surrounding political drama and in-depth news coverage over the failed vote makes this true: even if it is not ITNR, it is a distinct event which is in the news and being covered by the RS. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 19:28, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Normally this would not be posted, but I think the failure of the first vote, which was supposed to be a mere formality pushes it over the edge. That failure also resulted in more international news coverage than it otherwise would have gotten. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 20:24, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    "Normally this would not be posted"...people should really read, what other users have posted. the first comment mentions, that every election of a new german chancellor has been on wiki main page. 2003:E4:BF25:F900:909C:A2F5:BC2D:2F8B (talk) 21:54, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I think there is a lot of misunderstanding of the electoral process here. Winning the highest number of seats nearly never results in a path straight to governing, as the the vote share is split between many parties and unless one happens to get over 50% it doesn't mean anything. It is the electoral capabilities and negotiations which determine who will get the highest office, a process which can take weeks, months (like here) or even sometimes years (Belgian, Bulgarian crises for example) which means that this is on fact the result and event that dermines who governs, not the vote itself. Restored ITN/R the Chancellor in Germany is the head of state government. Abcmaxx (talk) 20:59, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    In no way shape or form is this ITN/R. Or, at least, per all known past application of the ITN/R rules. Where there's an election we post that. The subsequent changing of leader is assumed, and is not then posted as a duplicate.  — Amakuru (talk) 21:08, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Amakuru: I strongly disagree. The election doesn't determine the head of government, it merely decides which party gets how many seats. The only reason Merz was hailed as the winner was due to political predictions and likely outcome of this process of choosing the chancellor, which happens after the election. Technically CDU could have joined a coalition with the AFD, which was unlikely only due to political will of those two parties, or if they wished, they could have chosen a different chancellor in their coalition agreement with SPD. The election result does not determine any of this. Abcmaxx (talk) 14:41, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, by the same token we should have posted Trump's inauguration, because the election then didn't decide who would be president, it merely selected which parties could send delegates to the electoral college to decide the president. The fact is, it was widely reported after the election that Merz would be chancellor based on the results and the stated intentions of the parties, we posted the election on that basis with a picture of him, and now - lo and behold - he is chancellor. We've simply posted the same story twice. And yes, there was a bit of shenanigans yesterday when he didn't win the first vote, but so what. That was just a flash-in-the-pan suited to a news ticker, and it's not that aspect of it that's been posted today. I don't object to the story being posted on its own merits, if people so desire, but I do object to the same story being posted twice masquerading as ITN/R both times. It's one or the other.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:16, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Chancellor of Germany is the head of government, not of state. That would be the President. Aydoh8[what have I done now?] 23:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support it's been some time since the election, and the failure on the first ballot is notable in itself. Certainly more notable than the World Snooker Championship and some of the other sports events that, Lord only knows why, get to be ITN/R This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 04:56, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    ITN's purpose is to incentivize feature quality content about recent events; "significance" is just a secondary thing. Having a list at ITNR balances the prominence of different sports and incentivizes them all. Plus, you're drastically underestimating the significance of this year's World Snooker Championship, but that's another discussion to be had. Aaron Liu (talk) 12:54, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted. Sandstein 12:55, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Sandstein A very minor heads-up: You forgot to itallicize the "pictured" for Menz and remove the "pictured" from Zhao Xintong. Aaron Liu (talk) 12:58, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the reminder and to the person who fixed it. Sandstein 14:21, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Per Kiril Simeonovski, I don't think that the procedural second round is noteworthy enough to entail a blurb on its own and as mentioned before, the election result was posted as well. Ornithoptera (talk) 19:54, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

May 5

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May 5, 2025 (2025-05-05) (Monday)

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RD: James Baker

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Article: James Baker (musician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Billboard, Rolling Stone Australia
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Article updated
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 240F:7A:6253:1:550D:65B1:47CA:2B88 (talk) 08:15, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose awards section uncited. Aydoh8[what have I done now?] 23:07, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2025 World Snooker Championship

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Article: 2025 World Snooker Championship (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Zhao Xintong (pictured) defeats Mark Williams to win the World Snooker Championship. (Post)
Credits:

Article updated
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 Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 19:37, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Use the 2016 image Current one seems like something he might put up on Facebook. Bremps... 01:04, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's when he was a teenager. Stephen 02:53, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

May 4

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May 4, 2025 (2025-05-04) (Sunday)

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RD: Tom Youngs

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Article: Tom Youngs (footballer, born 1979) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Cambridge Utd
Credits:

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 Abcmaxx (talk) 21:05, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Romanian presidential election

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SNOW close. Consensus against posting. Wait until the final results come out. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 (talk) 22:20, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: 2025 Romanian presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the Romanian presidential election, the leader of the AUR party George Simion (pictured) wins the 1st round but faces a runoff against the independent candidate Nicușor Dan. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian, AP News
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Nominator's comments: Article needs a lot of work and a lot more prose, especially on results, aftermath, and the candidates. Not sure what the precedent is for 2-round elections is but this is global headlines nonetheless in what will likely be a knife edge runoff. Abcmaxx (talk) 13:27, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose only the results of the second round are posted. _-_Alsor (talk) 13:33, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
comment shouldnt the other righoid candidate who got banned from the election due to Russia be mentioned somehow? 5.44.170.181 (talk) 13:36, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. This is just the first round. We post when the second round concludes. --Grnrchst (talk) 17:35, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
oppose till 2nd round. Scuba 17:56, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose posting a preliminary election result, support posting the PM's resignation when a) it happens and b) the article is properly updated. Bremps... 18:45, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support only after May 18 run-off We can post the result of presidential election once second round official result is revealed on May 18 after election runoff vote. Given that in the country use runoff system and no candidates had more than 50% of votes, the blurb needs to be on hold until after May 18 runoff election results. Regarding the resignation of PM, i Support them to be included if the blurb was updated, as long as it didn't prematurely coincided with posting of first round election results. 103.111.102.118 (talk) 19:11, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose we need to wait until round 2. Secretlondon (talk) 19:23, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wait until Round 2. History6042😊 (Contact me) 20:11, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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(Closed) Nicaragua leaves UNESCO

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This won't be going anywhere. Schwede66 01:13, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Articles: Freedom of the press in Nicaragua (talk · history · tag) and Member states of UNESCO (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Nicaragua announces its withdrawal from UNESCO in protest after La Prensa, opposition newspaper to Nicaraguan dictatorship, wins the UNESCO/Guillermo Cano World Press Freedom Prize. (Post)
News source(s): The Associated Press, AFP
Credits:

Article needs updating
 UCinternational (talk) 04:12, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support Very clearly important. Duly signed, ⛵ WaltClipper -(talk) 12:40, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. It may be rare, but it's of very little importance or significance.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:46, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose When the debate is over importance, we should gauge not based on personal opinion but rather whether it is being picked up by reliable sources and covered in depth. In this case, there is no significant coverage from major outlets like the NYT, BBC, CBC, etc. There is really only a hodgepodge of miscellaneous articles from the AP, some European news sources, and one article in the Toronto Star. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 15:28, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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RD: Jochen Mass

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Article: Jochen Mass (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: German racing driver. Article isn't bad, stats need sourcing. Black Kite (talk) 20:51, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: K. V. Rabiya

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Article: K. V. Rabiya (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Hindu
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: literacy advocate Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 18:09, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support Except for the quotes section (which I removed) that can be moved to the sister project, this seems whole and well-cited enough. Writing is a little bit sentimental but it's not major enough to stop posting. Bremps... 18:47, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Ghulam Mohammad Vastanvi

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Article: Ghulam Mohammad Vastanvi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): United News of India, The Indian Express
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Noted Educational reformer Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 17:46, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support: Famous Indian Islamic scholar and educationist. Khaatir (talk) 06:46, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Hsu Li-nung

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Article: Hsu Li-nung (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): China Daily Focus Taiwan
Credits:

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 Fixer88 (talk) 16:57, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Julia Alexander

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Article: Julia Alexander (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Baltimore Sun
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: Former director of public art museum in eastern U.S. Bridget (talk) 17:05, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support, everything looks fully cited, article is updated and long enough. ForsythiaJo (talk) 02:26, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

May 3

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May 3, 2025 (2025-05-03) (Saturday)

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RD: Stephen Harmelin

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Article: Stephen Harmelin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.inquirer.com/obituaries/stephen-harmelin-dilworth-paxson-obituary-20250504.html
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: Article looks good. Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:45, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Sırrı Süreyya Önder

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Article: Sırrı Süreyya Önder (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: Turkish Politician. All we need is citations for a filmography. Onegreatjoke (talk) 20:45, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Sholom Lipskar

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Article: Sholom Lipskar (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Jerusalem Post
Credits:

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 Mooonswimmer 13:53, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Robert A. G. Monks

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Article: Robert A. G. Monks (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: Death announced 3 May. Thriley (talk) 17:29, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) 2025 Kentucky Derby

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Article: 2025 Kentucky Derby (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In horse racing, Sovereignty, ridden by Junior Alvarado, wins the Kentucky Derby. (Post)
News source(s): NBC Sports
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: The article is a little bit stubby at this point. Moraljaya67 (talk) 01:44, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Singaporean general election

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Article: 2025 Singaporean general election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the Singaporean general election, the People's Action Party, led by Lawrence Wong (pictured), retains a supermajority of seats. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The People's Action Party, led by Lawrence Wong (pictured), wins a supermajority of seats in the Singaporean general election.
Alternative blurb II: ​ In Singapore, the People's Action Party, led by Prime Minister Lawrence Wong (pictured), wins a supermajority of seats in the general election.
News source(s): CNA SCMP
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Results are still coming in as of the time of writing, but the outcome is a foregone conclusion. =JaventheAldericky= (Would you like to talk to me?) 16:28, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Marked ready. History6042😊 (Contact me) 13:55, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support Alt II Congrats to the PAP winning for the 15th time in a row. Scuba 14:40, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Australian federal election

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Article: 2025 Australian federal election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Australian Labor Party, led by Prime Minister, Anthony Albanese (pictured), wins the most seats in the federal election. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The Australian Labor Party, led by the Prime Minister of Australia, Anthony Albanese (pictured), is returned to government at the Australian federal election.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The Australian Labor Party, led by the Prime Minister of Australia, Anthony Albanese (pictured), wins the majority of seats in the Australian federal election.
Alternative blurb III: ​ In Australia, the Labor Party, led by the Prime Minister Anthony Albanese (pictured), wins the most seats in the federal election.
Alternative blurb IV: ​ In Australia, the Labor Party, led by the Prime Minister Anthony Albanese (pictured), is returned to government with a majority of seats after a federal election.
News source(s): [1]
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

 Happily888 (talk) 10:30, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support first blurb, as matches the recent Canadian blurb, although I would prefer mentioning them managing a majority V. L. Mastikosa (talk) 11:44, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support alt blurb 2, although would prefer a blurb that cleans up wording V. L. Mastikosa (talk) 12:19, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support alt blurb 3 V. L. Mastikosa (talk) 16:11, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support altblurb 2 as the initial blurb suggests a plurality win and therefore minority government, when all the major media is projecting a majority government. Melmann 11:51, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support a slightly reworded altblurb2 (something to the effect of The Australian Labor Party, led by prime minister Anthony Albanese (pictured), wins the majority of seats in the Australian federal election. The word "Australia(n)" does not have to be included three times haha. Loytra (talk) 12:49, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support altblurb3, the Australian version of the Canadian one. ArionStar (talk) 13:40, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support altblurb3 for consistency with the Canadian blurb. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 13:53, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In Canada, the Liberals did not get a majority, but in Australia Labor did. That should be pointed out. 331dot (talk) 14:03, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not quite the same as the Canadian Labour Party won a plurality of seats, while the Australian Labor Party seems to be on track to win a majority of seats. Prince Of Iso (talk) 14:05, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Correction to my prior reply, I meant Canadian Liberal Party, not Labour Party Prince Of Iso (talk) 14:14, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support altblurb2 BBC's even calling it a "landslide" now. Other blurbs would be more appropriate in a plurality result. Yo.dazo (talk) 14:35, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support alt 3. Scuba 14:49, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support altblurb 2, because as @331dot pointed out, the Australian election already resulted in a majority even in the current unfinished vote counting, not a plularity minority like the Canadian election. Additionally, lean wait for atleast 2-3 hours just for the final seat results, even if it's just a marginal result for Labor's majority seat number. SymphonyWizard72 (talk) 15:35, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support as this is a major national election. I'd prefer altblurb 2 but any of them are fine. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 15:54, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Chorchapu FYI this is on the recurring events list so it doesn't require support on the merits. 331dot (talk) 16:15, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, sorry. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 17:23, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article looks to be in good shape, it's long enough and has a good amount of prose. Could use some more info in the results section, though. Chorchapu (talk | edits) 17:26, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Sajid Mir

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Article: Sajid Mir (politician) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): GNN NewsDaily Pakistan
Credits:

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 Fahads1982talk/contrib 09:10, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wait A bit short. Bremps... 02:45, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

May 2

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May 2, 2025 (2025-05-02) (Friday)

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RD: Fidel Herrera Beltrán

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Article: Fidel Herrera Beltrán (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Infobae
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: Mexican politician. Article looks good. Onegreatjoke (talk) 15:13, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Bob Jones (businessman)

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Article: Bob Jones (businessman) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Stuff
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: New Zealander. Article looks good. Onegreatjoke (talk) 15:13, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Adnan Kassar

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Article: Adnan Kassar (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): L'Orient Today
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: Lebanese politician. Article looks good. Onegreatjoke (talk) 15:03, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: José Torres (educator)

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Article: José Torres (educator) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Daily Herald
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: Article looks good aside from 2 citation needed tags. Onegreatjoke (talk) 15:03, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Jim Dent

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Article: Jim Dent (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): PGA Tour
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Looks in decent shape. Updated significantly in recent days. Natg 19 (talk) 05:16, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wait until the professional wins section is cited. Then good to go. Bremps... 01:06, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Dara Birnbaum

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Article: Dara Birnbaum (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ARTnews
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: American video and installation artist. 240F:7A:6253:1:E51C:551C:DA17:2A61 (talk) 13:05, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: George Ryan

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Article: George Ryan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Chicago Tribune
Credits:

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Former Governor of Illinois. 240F:7A:6253:1:801B:A5BD:237A:E9D2 (talk) 06:47, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

May 1

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May 1, 2025 (2025-05-01) (Thursday)

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RD: Tania Marie Caringi

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Article: Tania Marie Caringi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.tg24.info/sora-morta-a-38-anni-per-un-male-improvviso-la-modella-tania-marie-caringi-era-originaria-della-citta-volsca/
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Nominator's comments: American-Italian model. Article looks good. Onegreatjoke (talk) 21:56, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Jeffrey Hutchinson

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Article: Jeffrey Hutchinson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NBC News
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: American murderer. Article looks good. Onegreatjoke (talk) 21:56, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support Article is of decent length and everything appears well cited. Bluemarsman (Talk) 05:16 7 May 2025

RD: Andrejs Prohorenkovs

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Article: Andrejs Prohorenkovs (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: Latvian footballer, member of the all-time greatest Latvian UEFA Euro 2004 squad. Article is in good shape and sourced. Abcmaxx (talk) 06:00, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose the DYK check showed that the page was just over 1,000 characters of prose text, with the stub limit being 1,500. The entire first 20 years of his club career up to age of 37 is one sentence sourced to a database. My discussion here [2] just about proved that WP:ITNQUALITY is whatever two or three people in a discussion deem it to be, but surely this can't be posted unless it passes Wikipedia's stub limit. Unknown Temptation (talk) 17:33, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Ruth Buzzi

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Article: Ruth Buzzi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety
Credits:

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 Thriley (talk) 15:35, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Jill Sobule

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Article: Jill Sobule (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): LiveNow from Fox, BBC, The Guardian
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: An American singer and songwriter known for I Kissed a Girl SurveyMonkey...  10:40, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Ricky Davao

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Article: Ricky Davao (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Global Filipino Magazine, Bombo Radyo Philippines, The Philippine Star
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: A Filipino actor. His filmography needs additional sources. Moraljaya67 (talk) 09:15, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Nana Caymmi

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Article: Nana Caymmi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [3]
Credits:

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 ArionStar (talk) 23:34, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) South Korean presidents

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Stale, but no consensus either. Schwede66 01:12, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: 2025 South Korean presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In South Korea, Prime Minister Han Duck-soo resigns as acting president to run in the 2025 presidential election; as Finance Minister Choi Sang-mok has resigned, Education Minister Lee Ju-ho (pictured) assumes the acting presidency. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ South Korean Prime Minister Han Duck-soo and Finance Minister Choi Sang-mok resign within six hours of each other; Education Minister Lee Ju-ho (pictured) becomes acting president.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Education Minister Lee Ju-ho (pictured) becomes the acting president of South Korea.
News source(s): https://www.koreaherald.com/article/10479096
Credits:

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Nominator's comments: Two head of state changes in one day in a turbulent moment for South Korean politics. Ca talk to me! 14:53, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: this is more fall-out from the Yoon impeachment, changing the acting president so candidates can run in the election to be Yoon's permanent replacement. I don't see anywhere in the proposed article that discusses these changes and the blurb is far too long. I won't !vote for now, but I suspect we'd be better off waiting for the election to choose an actual president, rather than changes in the acting head of state. Modest Genius talk 15:38, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Wait for the presidential election in a few weeks time. I've tried to find more English-language media coverage of this, but there's very little available, which already tells us something about the importance. This is a change in an acting position, seemingly as part of the election campaign; no president is taking anything more than caretaker action until after the election on 3 June. We should therefore wait for the winner of the election, and post that. Regardless of whether an acting president does or doesn't count as a head of state for ITNR purposes (which is debatable), we can WP:IAR to get a more sensible outcome. Modest Genius talk 12:32, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    ITNR goes by List of current heads of state and government, which lists the new acting president. Ed [talk] [OMT] 15:56, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, Lee Ju-ho is still a stub, though it has some more improvements. Natg 19 (talk) 00:38, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose As of right now, this has been the norm in the Republic of Korea, do not see why it would be important to do this, we posted the fall of Damascus and the kicking out of Bashar as president of Syria, and his replacement. That was because of its massive reprecussions on the politics within that nation and around it. Does not mean we should post this. Shaneapickle (talk) 16:25, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Alternatively we can just put the crisis under "Ongoing". Bremps... 16:35, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah that would be a solution Shaneapickle (talk) 12:24, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've struck this oppose as you !voted again below. Ed [talk] [OMT] 15:55, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose/Wait: agree with Modest Genius that we should not post changes to the acting president, and wait to post the winner of the election in June. Natg 19 (talk) 17:32, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Neither of them were elected to the office, and this dosen't seem unexpected. Simply politicians doing politics. The Yoon impeachment was already run as a blurb and I believe his arrest was as well, so this has been well covered. Normalman101 (talk) 18:10, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Never in South Korean history was there a acting x3 president. Lee is now tasked with managing US trade talks, a pretty important decision in my opinion. Ca talk to me! 22:55, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would probably wait for now. Also, small mistake. I don't think Choi succeeded him; Choi resigned before Duck-soo did, so Ju-ho straight assumed the presidency. Either way, this can be circled back around to after the election, maybe in a blurb where [X] succeeds acting president Ju-ho (or whoever's in power atp).
River10000 (talk) 19:20, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, thanks for pointing this out. I have changed the misleading sentence. Ca talk to me! 23:02, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Put in Ongoing/Oppose I am opposing per my oppose from earlier, but I agree with @Bremps put this in ongoing as this has blown out into a full political crisis due to a mistake that, by May 4th, will be the official 5 months since this happened, and since this political crisis has been exploded into something bigger, put it in ongoing. Shaneapickle (talk) 12:27, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Its not a good ongoing story as these events are not news on a daily basis. It might be a long-term story due to how long this is taking, but its not new events every day that we expect in Ongoing. Masem (t) 20:31, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Surprised the fact that it was ITN/R was not caught earlier. Ju-ho's article might need to be expanded but the others are fine, I think this can be posted. --SpectralIon 20:12, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    It's not ITN/R. Only permanent leaders would be covered by that, this one is just acting and he'll be replaced in just a month's time after the election, which we'll of course post. We're not going to post every single twist and turn of this saga.  — Amakuru (talk) 23:42, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    We have posted every twist and turn of this saga though, I opposed the arrest of Yoon Suk-yeol and we posted that too. Leader for a month is not too insignificant and the uniqueness of two leaders resigning in succession only contributes to this being postable. SpectralIon 04:19, 6 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reinstating ITR. As opposed to Amakuru's statement, nothing in WP:ITNR#Elections and heads of state and government mentions anything about "permanent leaders" (none of the leaders are "permanent," anyway). Nfitz doesn't even make a direct argument on why it isn't, merely saying these are "interim presidencies", but again, WP:ITNR#Elections and heads of state and government doesn't mention anything of this sort. You can argue WP:IAR, but ITNR designation stays, and the posting admin should be the one judging if IAR argument holds. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Howard the Duck (talk • contribs)
    • This is correct re ITNR, but I will stress that this feels like a situation that IAR definitely applies due to these all being acting roles with an election for a permanent one in the next month or so. Masem (t) 12:00, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I'd implore to people not remove ITNR tags when the blurb actually undisputedly qualifies for it, and just argue WP:IAR if they feel that way. It's bordering on vandalism in having this reverted. You guys (not necessarily you Masem) won't do this on interim PM in European countries. Howard the Duck (talk) 12:11, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • IAR Oppose and wait for the election. The guy was never supposed to stick around for long, and South Korea keeps going through so many presidents that we can't blurb them all. The ITNR listing was clearly not designed for this. QuicoleJR (talk) 19:47, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as ITNR The article is of sufficient quality and is ITNR per Howard the Duck. IAR is a drastic measure that should only be resorted to in circumstances of last resort or where there is clearly a "gap" in how the ITNR rule was written. Here, it seems reasonable to post this and its within the plain language scope of the rule. Opposes on notability should be discarded within the consensus assessment unless they make a clear case as to why WP:IAR should apply. FlipandFlopped ㋡ 23:38, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait I earlier opposed this blurb and I still stand by that, however we will blurb the election that is happening in under 1 month so we might as well wait. There is little english-language coverage and we have blurbed this general situation I believe twice, not to mention that we are running 4 election blurbs as of now. This would simply crowd the other blurbs and would have to be updated or (if it fell off) need to be reinstated at the time of the election in June. Normalman101 (talk) 15:28, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I Reviewed the archive for ITN and we have blurbed the declaration of martial law, yoon's impeachment, his arrest, and his removal. Not to mention that when the declaration was lifted the blurb was changed, this has been well covered even as important is it may be and we can easily wait a month. Normalman101 (talk) 18:30, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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RD: Charles Were

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Article: Charles Were (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
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Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Kenyan parliament member shot dead by unknown gunman in Nariobi Editor 5426387 (talk) 15:31, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Manolo el del Bombo

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Article: Manolo el del Bombo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): RTVE
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Famous Spanish football fan Alexcalamaro (talk) 19:47, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Too short. Bremps... 04:45, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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