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Errors in the summary of the featured article

Please do not remove this invisible timestamp. See WT:ERRORS and WP:SUBSCRIBE. - Dank (push to talk) 01:24, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Errors in "Did you know ..."

Current DYK

• ... that the Lady Carbisdale led an unsuccessful takeover bid for Sheffield United F.C. and, after a gender transition, was interviewed to become its chief executive?

"Lady Carbisdale" is a self-styled (and misleading) nickname, why are we using it to refer to the person here? The article mentions the nickname's existence, but never does this, and calls her "Kane" throughout. Using it with the definite article - the Lady Carbisdale - is extra bad as it points even more strongly to this being a noble title and not a nickname. This form is never used in the article or just about anywhere else. Highly recommend switching to "that Samantha Kane..." -Elmer Clark (talk) 15:42, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

10 hours later and this is now live. Surely we can at least remove the word "the?" That part is an uncontroversial egg-on-our-face error to me. -Elmer Clark (talk) 01:52, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

I've implemented your original proposal. Sorry that it took so long. When I first saw this (many hours before the page went live), I assumed that one of the DYK admins will deal with that, or at least say why they don't agree. Schwede66 05:54, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Errors in "On this day"

Today's OTD

A tornado struck Central Oklahoma, killing eight people and injuring more than 150 others.

Change the "A tornado" to "the largest tornado ever recorded"; the only reason it's at OTD is due to it's record-breaking size. Many tornadoes are deadlier than this one; we had a tornado on May 16 kill nineteen people. ^EF⁵ 00:43, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

I’ve copy-edited the item adopting wording from the article’s lead. Schwede66 16:35, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

Unbold Kronan (ship) in the 1676 one. The event that happened is the battle, not the ship. - Sebbog13 (talk) 05:50, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

The blurb isn't exclusively about the battle, but also about "one of the largest ships in the world at the time". I therefore see nothing wrong how it's styled. Schwede66 05:56, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Tomorrow's OTD

Alexander Shulgin (on the births and deaths line) is orange tagged and should probably be swapped out for another article. Jay8g [V•T•E] 03:59, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Replaced Schwede66 06:04, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

In the 1973 entry, it should be "an" episode. ~~ Jessintime (talk) 04:51, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Day-after-tomorrow's OTD

In the 1982 entry, "which event was later used as justification for the" needs to be rephrased. ~~ Jessintime (talk) 04:53, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

 Fixed Schwede66 06:04, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

Errors in the summary of the featured list

Friday's FL

(June 6)

Monday's FL

(June 2, tomorrow)

Errors in the summary of the featured picture

Notice to administrators: When fixing POTD errors, please update the corresponding regular version (i.e. without "protected" in the page title) in addition to the Main Page version linked below.

Today's POTD

I made some amendments to this yesterday before it was protected, but I realise that I've missed an error in one of the existing links - the link to rapid plant movement should be removed as this species does not exhibit movement fast enough to meet that definition. Also mucilage-secreting should probably be amended to mucilage-secreting (new error by me, sorry). YFB ¿ 09:59, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

I've made these changes to the unprotected version if someone wouldn't mind copying them over to the protected one please? YFB ¿ 23:08, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

 Done Sorry for the delay. It seems I'm the only admin on duty. And making requested POTD changes to the unprotected version is very helpful, Yummifruitbat – thank you. Schwede66 06:09, 1 June 2025 (UTC)

General discussion

Greek Wikipedia appearing under the 50,000+ category

The Greek Wikipedia currently includes 253,138 articles. However, it is still not listed under the 250,000+ category. Could someone move it up?

Thanks! Goombario64 (talk) 12:46, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Just a heads-up, but this talk page is only for the English Wikipedia's main page (en.wikipedia.org). The wikipedia.org portal itself is managed by Wikimedia on Meta-Wiki. Requests for changes to the Wikimedia portals need to be done through Wikimedia's Phabricator Leventio (talk) 19:45, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

This was referring to the English Wikipedia Main Page. I have updated it as requested. The portal at https://www.wikipedia.org/ splits the languages differently (by powers of 10) so Greek is in the correct place there already. the wub "?!" 20:44, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Ah my mistake! Thanks for the correction. Leventio (talk) 05:38, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

As we are perhaps hours away from our 7 millionth article...

Are we planning to alter the logo for the 7 millionth, as we have done in the past? JayCubby 15:13, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

It doesn't look like this was planned out at Wikipedia talk:Seven million articles. We've been strongly cautioned to not use onwiki hacks to change the logo, so this would need to be requested upstream using the guidance in meta:Logo#Temporary_logo_variants. — xaosflux ^Talk 15:28, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

We could however quickly add {{Main Page banner}}, as we did for 6MM. Anyone got a comment on that? — xaosflux ^Talk 15:31, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

After Wikipedia:Seven million articles is properly updated of course. — xaosflux ^Talk 15:32, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

I would have no objections to that. The logo testing tool appears to be broken, though. JayCubby 16:02, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

That's not a show-stopper. To open a site request, you will need to point to a community consensus discussion though. — xaosflux ^Talk 17:08, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

I'd like that. ARandomName123 (talk)^{Ping me!} 01:02, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

Yes to Main Page banner. Schwede66 01:11, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

Less than 200 to go. We should hit 7M in five-ish hours. Are we going to wait four weeks for a VPPR discussion to finish? JayCubby 01:36, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

I opened a discussion at the WP:VPPR. Ca ^{talk to me!} 02:41, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

I have no qualms about adding a special logo for one day. Ca ^{talk to me!} 02:20, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

• Place your bets on how quickly our 7 millionth article will be sent to AFD. Seriously… milestones are nice and all, but let’s focus on quality over quantity folks. Blueboar (talk) 16:25, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

  We are officially over 7 million articles. All the Best -- Chuck ^Talk 02:31, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

• Main page 7 million banner as currently displayed loads poorly on mobile. -LukeSurl ^t c 17:09, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

  Now better LukeSurl ^t c 17:18, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

  Wrapping for small screen, and color for darkmode adjusted (see also Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Scary_red_main_page_banner_in_dark_mode). — xaosflux ^Talk 17:29, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

New phrase and wrong hyperlink

Hi, I think this sentence does not seem reasonable:

117,937 active editors 7,000,660 articles in English

Even though

7,000,660 articles in English

we may seem reasonable, but

117,937 active editors in English

is completely semantically wrong. We don't have editors in a "English language", instead we have editors in "English Wikipedia".

So, after adding the phrase "117,937 active editors", I really propose to modify the hyperlink of "English" word from "English language" to "English Wikipedia". Thanks, Hooman Mallahzadeh (talk) 07:34, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

@Hooman Mallahzadeh I don't think that's meant to be read as a complete sentence, but rather something like 117,937 active editors; 7,000,660 articles in English, though I do support linking "editors" to Wikipedia community or something similar. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 07:39, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

@CanonNi We have "117,937 active editors" in "English Wikipedia community", not "Wikipedia community", and this does not have any article, we only have article for English Wikipedia.

I think because they are in the same line, they may be read as a single sentence and this frequently happens. Hooman Mallahzadeh (talk) 07:44, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

There is a dot between the two stats, it is not a single sentence. CMD (talk) 08:28, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

@Chipmunkdavis I think the statistics "117,937 active editors" needs "verb and adverb" or a "reduced only adverb" to be a complete sentence. Do you agree? The reader may ask:

• Where we have "117,937 active editors"?

It implies "English Wikipedia" which is the same as the object on next statistics. Hooman Mallahzadeh (talk) 08:42, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

I would agree it is not a complete sentence, but I don't think it is trying to be a complete sentence. I think if balance is the issue, removing "in English" would be an easier solution than adding something to balance, although there has been some support for keeping a link to the language of this encyclopaedia on the main page. This is also done at es:Wikipedia:Portada. de:Wikipedia:Hauptseite does similarly but in a sentence without a wikilink (you may have to view that page logged out). fr:Wikipédia:Accueil principal does more what you are perhaps looking for, placing both stats in the same context. CMD (talk) 09:01, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

I propose to use a complete sentence. That is instead of:

116,704 active editors . 7,002,141 articles in English

we can use this sentence:

116,704 active editors working on 7,002,141 articles in English.

Without changing the hyperlink and with a dot at the end of the sentence.

I think this way (using a full sentence) is more meaningful. Hooman Mallahzadeh (talk) 14:52, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

Why does this have to be a complete sentence? It's just a display of two numbers and their units for quick reference. Dan Leonard (talk • contribs) 02:29, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

I think, in the current style, the reference of "in English" is both editors and articles. This way, we should use "English Wikipedia" as hyperlink for "in English" to correct semantic of the line.

But if we want to keep "English language" as hyperlink, we must correct the relationship by a verb. Hooman Mallahzadeh (talk) 03:37, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

This isn't a sentence that follows semantic guidelines, I don't understand your request for a verb. There's quite a bit of space and a bullet between the two statistics. Dan Leonard (talk • contribs) 03:41, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Why is the main page limited to only 50 language links

Now that even 2010 Vector has a language link dropdown menu, I don't think there's a need to limit the amount of language links to 50. Every other page on Wikipedia lets the language links come from Wikidata. --Minilammas (talk) 10:45, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

This isn't a 50-article limit, it's an English Wikipedia main page policy to only include interlanguage links via {{Main Page interwikis}} that meet the qualification standards at {{Wikipedia languages}}. However, I agree with your proposal. Vector 2022's interlanguage link display isn't the cluttered sidebar of yesteryear, and instead now defaults to a "search for a language" box that readers might find useful. Implementation would require removal of the {{Main Page interwikis}} template and {{noexternallanglinks}} magic word:

−

</div><noinclude>{{Main Page interwikis}}{{noexternallanglinks}}{{#if:{{Wikipedia:Main Page/Tomorrow}}||}}</noinclude>__NOTOC____NOEDITSECTION__

+

</div><noinclude>{{#if:{{Wikipedia:Main Page/Tomorrow}}||}}</noinclude>__NOTOC____NOEDITSECTION__

As examples, the Dutch, Finnish, and French main pages use this implementation and it seems to work fine. Dan Leonard (talk • contribs) 04:38, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Yea, by "limited to 50" I meant that as in "limited to 50 [that the community has chosen]. I saw from the wikitext that the language links are manually determined. --Minilammas (talk) 18:52, 30 May 2025 (UTC)