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Category:Newman family (show business) has been nominated for renaming

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Advice if you have a mo

Sorry to ask, I'm looking for a policy on footballers. It's something along the lines of, if a nationality is causing disruption then it should be removed? I'm sure I've seen it in relation to football articles. The reason I'm asking is because there is some disruption over at Hamza Choudhury. Any advice? Thanks in advance, Knitsey (talk) 17:06, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

The general rule is - if someone is born in one country but plays for another through e.g. parentage, do not mention the nationality straight after the date of birth (e.g. Riyad Mahrez). For Hamza, until he actually plays for Bangladesh, I think saying he is 'English footballer' is fine. If/when he plays for Bangladesh, remove the nationality. GiantSnowman 17:15, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Lovely, thank you. I was fairly sure I had come across a discussion. Appreciate the advice, ta, Knitsey (talk) 17:18, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Tournament Pages

Hi Giant Snowman, happy new year!

How far advance should pages of major tournaments (World Cup, AFCON etc) be created in advance?

I'm considering starting a page for UEFA Euro 2036, is it too early?

Footballnerd2007 • talk ⚽ 18:13, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Same to you! What information is known about the tournament? How much significant coverage is there? GiantSnowman 18:34, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Always nice to make acquaintance of a fellow Yorkshireman! 2 potential bidders are known - Poland and Nordics. Precedent suggests bidding process will open later this year with host chosen in late 2027. Footballnerd2007 • talk ⚽ 18:58, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Maybe create it in draft first? See WP:AFC. GiantSnowman 19:00, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Your comment about me

Hi again,

I've seen your comment about me on the admin noticeboard. Just to clarify I am a new editor on this account but have been editing on and off for a few years on various IPs but hadn't logged in until recently. I have spent plenty of time reviewing wiki policy and procedure and am very interested in the 'behind the scenes' aspect of wikipedia.

Footballnerd2007 • talk ⚽ 19:51, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Please comment at WP:ANI. Why have you been undertaking botched page moves, why did you mess with my user space draft, and why have you created a RFA for another user? GiantSnowman 19:53, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

I’m not sure what to write here but I ask you read it

Hi Mr. Snowman,

I want to sincerely apologize for my actions and I realize that we both were getting frustrated and I apologize for that.

I'm starting to realize your point regarding the inexperience and I'm starting to realize although it is true and I don't want it to disqualify my vote, I feel like it is necessary to somehow be proactive about.

I was wondering if you would considering "adopting" me and be a mentor? I know we just argued a few hours ago but I'm realizing I really do need someone to help guide me and with the warning I already got for a satire edit (which was fully my fault), I'm starting to realize that maybe I don't know the Wikipedia's ins and outs as I thought.

I have been mostly trying to stay behind the scenes and been working on promoting this article but in light of recent events although I'm still working on it, I definitely need someone to mentor me. Would you consider adopting me?

Thanks, Reader of Information (talk) 02:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC) Reader of Information (talk) 02:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for reaching out, and yes, of course more than happy to mentor you as much as I can! GiantSnowman 10:07, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Awesome! Thank you so much! Where do we start? Reader of Information (talk) 14:27, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

You can just ask me any questions if you need help with anything. GiantSnowman 14:31, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. I'll ask if I come up with anything. Reader of Information (talk) 14:37, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:48, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

Hey mentour!

Hi my mentor, Giant Snowman,

I'm asking if you could help review the guidelines with me and assist me in creating a central discussion page regarding AI use as there are no guidelines. I was thinking of something like what I mentioned in the ANI as a start and your mention of a separate discussion was what brought me here.

Fyi, yeah I'm feeling better something I ate this morning did not sit well and passing gas actually helped 🤣

This is probably the first major project I'll be working on and your help as an experienced editor (and my mentor) would really help me out. I would like your help on the flaws with my views with the AI mentioning in AI, how that'd conflict with WP:LLM, and other aspects of AI usage to draft a good post for centralized discussion.

Your mentee, Reader of Information (talk) 22:35, 5 January 2025 (UTC) Reader of Information (talk) 22:35, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

You are looking for WP:RFC, but I think you are probably too unexperienced to be starting such a discussion. GiantSnowman 18:47, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Hmmm, well, I started one at Village Pump, proposals, it seems to be gaining traction. Reader of Information (talk) 19:03, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) You're too inexperienced to be doing a lot of the things you're doing. You need to spend less time in project space.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:21, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

I suppose so lol. I guess my eagerness can get the better of me. I'll work on the Fourth Army (France) revamp I have planned. Reader of Information (talk) 19:29, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 2, 2025)

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Nice to meet you, have some images

I hope our disagreement on Talk:Carol and Eric Hafner is settled. Meanwhile, as a sign of appreciation of your contributions in general (you're a very active admin!), I found some free licensed images to illustrate your articles. I do that occasionally.

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  Lucas Covolan
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  Coat of arms of Raoul de Gaucourt
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  Campaign of Raoul de Gaucourt in Dauphiné, 1429, by Martial d'Auvergne
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  First aeroplane of Constance Leathart

Hope you like. --GRuban (talk) 18:56, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the images - but no, it's not settled. GiantSnowman 19:02, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

OK, let me see what you said there and figure out the next steps. I think I found an image of Ratking (group) - not great, but better than nothing, about as good as the image currently on Wiki (rapper). This is as much as anything a reminder to myself to actually upload it while doing the former! --GRuban (talk) 20:35, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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  American band Ratking performing in Köln in 2014. Left to right: Wiki, Sporting Life, Hak.
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Not very good depictions, I'm afraid. I'd still put in one or two of them into the article, on the grounds that they're still better than nothing, but if you don't agree, I won't insist on it. --GRuban (talk) 00:29, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

I think they're good enough to include (in particular images 2 or 4?) - thanks! GiantSnowman 16:28, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Put two in. May keep looking for more. --GRuban (talk) 20:19, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Seth Burkett

Found one for Seth Burkett, and that's all for User:GiantSnowman/DYK. I clicked through some of the many, many links on Homosexuality in association football, and most of those have (better) images already. --GRuban (talk) 20:38, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Wow, good work! GiantSnowman 21:35, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diplomacy
	The Barnstar of Diplomacy is awarded to you, GiantSnowman, who have helped to resolve, peacefully, conflicts on Wikipedia. Even when editors attack, you don't take it too personally and are happy to see the redirection of editors towards positive citizenship. TiggerJay (talk) 16:32, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

Gosh, thank you very much! GiantSnowman 16:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)

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Sockpuppets

The logged in vandal is duckquacking the IP vandals of https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Prime_Minister_of_Canada&action=history, could you impose blocks please as they continued after I issued warning? Footballnerd2007 • talk ⚽ 14:26, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

I please need user names/IP addresses/diffs showing vandalism. Why not report at WP:AIV as is normal? GiantSnowman 14:31, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

[1] you could look at any of his 4 edits and see that they are destructive. Footballnerd2007 • talk ⚽ 14:42, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Blocked, thanks. GiantSnowman 15:24, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, he also has a sock. Footballnerd2007 • talk ⚽ 15:27, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Blocked as well - probably WP:MEAT rather than sock. But it would be helpful if you linked to the users using {{user}}, so I can easily review contribs. GiantSnowman 15:31, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks again, I'll do that in future. How do you, with any degree of certainty, differentiate between a meatpuppet and a sockpuppet? Footballnerd2007 • talk ⚽ 15:37, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

A sock usually (but not always) appears when the old account has been blocked - a meatpuppet is usually a friend of the first account who is vandalising at the same time. GiantSnowman 15:40, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Ah thanks, that will help me differentiate when dealing with them in future. Another meat has popped up after you blocked the other two. Footballnerd2007 • talk ⚽ 15:42, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

That is probably a sock, given they appeared when the other accounts were blocked and their user name appears to be a homage to mine. Anyway, already dealt with by @Bbb23:. GiantSnowman 15:47, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

That thought did cross my mind. Think those pages may need semi-protecting as I can see them creating more accounts. Footballnerd2007 • talk ⚽ 15:50, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Yes, good idea, I have done that. GiantSnowman 15:54, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks! Footballnerd2007 • talk ⚽ 15:59, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 3, 2025)

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Category:Rankin family of Geelong has been nominated for renaming

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Brendan Rodgers

Hi, Could you explain why you reverted my edit removing that Brendan Rodgers had Covid once, please? How long it's been in the article doesn't make it not trivial. Most of the population have had Covid before, whilst it might have been of minor interest in 2020, it's not WP:NOTABLE anymore. Thanks. LicenceToCrenellate (talk) 19:06, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

It's covered in multiple reliable sources. The same cannot be said for "most of the population". Also notability is not temporary. GiantSnowman 19:07, 26 January 2025 (UTC)

What does multiple sources have to do with it not being trivia? BLP articles aren't usually full of whatever minor illnesses people have had once. I'd understand it being in an article if it had left the sufferer with chronic side effects or led to their death.

81.7% of people have had Covid since Nov 2022, according to the ONS, it's not rare or unusual. LicenceToCrenellate (talk) 07:35, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

Again, it was reported in multiple reliable sources at the time. GiantSnowman 19:07, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

I believe GS is referring to WP:DUE. Robby.is.on (talk) 23:19, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

Again, I'll ask you how it being in multiple sources makes it automatically noteworthy or not trivia? This isn't an illness that has had some lasting or serious impact to the subject - I'd agree with you including it if it had.

I'm not going to get into an edit war over this, but you've yet to provide a convincing response to any of my points. LicenceToCrenellate (talk) 08:01, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

As Robby suggests, see WP:DUE. GiantSnowman 08:10, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 5, 2025)

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Jonas Mukuna draft

HI giant snow man is it possible we could get in contact about a draft made on Jonas Mukuna that we want to be published on not saved as a draft Jmuks11 (talk) 01:41, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

Who is "we"? Robby.is.on (talk) 01:48, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

Yep, what Robby said. GiantSnowman 16:09, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

Kane Smith

Hi again. You reverted me at Kane Smith, citing WP:BLP in a three-word message on my talkpage. You also cited WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS in your edit summary. That's interesting because that policy states:

While merely citing a policy or guideline may give other editors a clue as to what the reasoning is, it does not explain specifically how the policy applies to the discussion at hand.

I pointed you to some other interesting facts. Margaret Thatcher gives the name of her dad Alfred Roberts (notable) and also her mum Beatrice Ethel Stephenson (not notable). It even gives the name of her paternal grandmother, Catherine Sullivan (not notable). Harold Wilson gives the name of both parents (James Herbert Wilson and Ethel Seddon), both not notable. Liz Truss gives the names of both parents, (John Truss and Priscilla Grasby), both unnotable. Martina Navratilova gives the names of both parents, Mirek Subert and Jana, and her sister (also Jana). It even mentions she has a half brother. All this leads me irresistibly to the conclusion that BLPs which don't give the names of the subject's parents are inadequately researched. That is after studying the policy pointed to by you, which takes the trouble to explain where you are going wrong:

This is generally interpreted by the community to include the removal of names of non-notable minors from articles about their notable family members

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.61.250.249 (talk • contribs)

What is the relevance or notability of his father's name? GiantSnowman 16:09, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

Let me punt that back to you. What is the relevance or the notability of the names Beatrice Ethel Stephenson, Catherine Sullivan, James Herbert Wilson, Ethel Seddon, John Truss, Priscilla Grasby, Mirek Subert, Jana Navratilova (Mrs) and Jana Navratilova (Miss)? I note you've quietly dropped your claim that including Kane Smith's father's name in his article is a policy violation. 156.61.250.249 (talk) 10:42, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

I don't think the names of the other parents are worth including either - as per WP:BLPNAME which I have cited already. GiantSnowman 10:45, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Here is an analysis of four more articles chosen at random:

• Vladimir Putin gives the names of Vladimir Spiridonovich Putin and Maria Ivanovna Shelomova (parents) and Albert and Viktor (brothers), all non-notable.
• Joe Biden gives the names of Joseph Robinette Biden and Catherine Eugenia Finnegan (parents) and Francis (brother), all non-notable.
• Kamala Harris gives the names of notable family members.
• Donald Trump gives the names of notable family members and sister Elizabeth (not notable).

Since the views of the people who wrote all these articles do not accord with your own, will you now admit that yours is the minority view? 156.61.250.249 (talk) 11:18, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

And while you're at it, while following me around you are leaving havoc in your wake. Would you like to read [2] and reconsider your unsourced and false statement? It's bad enough losing a brother without having people adding falsehoods about them. 156.61.250.249 (talk) 11:34, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. If you can't understand that, you should not be editing. GiantSnowman 13:56, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

For heaven's sake man! Instead of parroting links to Wikipedia policies please point to the exact words in the policy which you claim supports your minority view. 156.61.250.249 (talk) 14:00, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Given that you seemingly cannot read - "The presumption in favor of privacy is strong in the case of family members of articles' subjects [...] The names of any immediate, former, or significant family members or any significant relationship of the subject of a BLP may be part of an article, if reliably sourced, subject to editorial discretion that such information is relevant to a reader's complete understanding of the subject" (my emphasis). GiantSnowman 07:31, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

Right. We're talking about my editorial discretion and the editorial discretion of the hundreds of thousands of people who have built this encyclopaedia over the past 25 years. Why do you feel the need to interfere, and why do you omit the most relevant part of the policy which commences immediately after the end of your extract from it and shoots you down in flames? 156.61.250.249 (talk) 13:14, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

Well my editorial discretion is to remove Mr Smith's father's name. There is no consensus for it to be included and this is just the latest example of your BLP violations. GiantSnowman 14:28, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

How is the use of editorial discretion a BLP violation? 156.61.250.249 (talk) 14:33, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

Because the inclusion of this person's name in this article violates WP:BLPNAME. I am not going to discuss this further, thank you for your time. GiantSnowman 14:40, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

The policy was carefully worded to deal with people like you. The consensus was stated here:

IMHO, close friends and family members are basic genealogical information that interests people; but many, if not most,of our marginally notable biographies don't need to include it. - SchmuckyTheCat 08:07, 30 July 2010

Why not ping Schmucky, tell him you think Kane Smith is "marginally notable" and await his reaction? He might quote back at you the section of policy that you are pretending doesn't exist. 156.61.250.249 (talk) 15:59, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

Please do not post here again, thank you. GiantSnowman 16:00, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

I'm not trying to come in on something I don't fully understand, but I think Kane Smith, as a League One footballer, is a bit less noteworthy than the other examples given... MrFattie (talk) 19:40, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

No, according to the IP his biography should be identical to Thatcher... GiantSnowman 20:45, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

Please don't misrepresent my argument GiantSnowman. Your argument implies that as soon as a team goes down the names of players' fathers must be removed from biographies, only to be restored when they go back up, which might be the following season. I can see why some years back ArbCom debated whether to de-sysop you, only to put you under restriction instead. 156.61.250.249 (talk) 09:57, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

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Thank you! GiantSnowman 17:42, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

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Thank you! GiantSnowman 21:33, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:28, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

Carol "Kitty" Hafner discussion

So I brought up our nickname discussion form Talk:Carol and Eric Hafner at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Biography#How_should_we_interpret_MOS:NICKNAME? ... but, unfortunately I now see you're away! So sorry. I will wait for you to return and have a chance to respond before implementing whatever is decided there, if anything. --GRuban (talk) 16:26, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up - not a problem, I'm still around a bit over the next few days. GiantSnowman 21:20, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

CfD nomination at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 February 7 § Category:Afghan footballers by populated place

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This week's article for improvement (week 7, 2025)

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Precious anniversary

Precious

Nine years!

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Thank you! GiantSnowman 10:33, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

Non FIFA matches

Hi Mate, can you point me in the direction where it says that non FIFA matches are not counted towards national caps total? Thanks. Simione001 (talk) 21:19, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Can you point me in the direction that it says we include them? The rationale behind only including league games for domestic stats (i.e. ability to source them) applies here. GiantSnowman 21:21, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Well i don't know mate, I'm asking you. I don't see how you can equate league games and cup games for a club with national team appearances. One has nothing to do with the other. Your disputing my edit saying they are not included so show me where it says they shouldn't be. If that's the consensus then I've got no problem with that. I've seen many many instances where they have been included, that's all. Simione001 (talk) 21:29, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. {{Infobox football biography}} states we include competitive and friendly appearances, not non-FIFA nonsense. GiantSnowman 21:32, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Thank you but I cannot see anything there relating to non-FIFA matches as it pertains to the infobox. Am i missing something? Simione001 (talk) 21:41, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Well that's the point... GiantSnowman 21:43, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Draft notability

Hi GS, how are you? I posted this at WT:FOOTY, but nobody replied... Do you think that Draft:Vladyslav Krapyvtsov is available to move to main space through WP:GNG? Thank you, BRDude⁷⁰ (talk) 20:18, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

The sources are in Spanish/Catalan or Ukrainian - but they appear to be more ROUTINE transfer news than any significant coverage? GiantSnowman 20:57, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

Most of them are transfer rumours... That's why I asked, because it seems to have good coverage but only about these kinds of possible transfer moves. BRDude⁷⁰ (talk) 21:02, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

In which case I don't think it's currently enough. GiantSnowman 21:04, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

'Kay, I'll keep it in the draftspace then. Thank you :) BRDude⁷⁰ (talk) 21:09, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

Help and/or guidance with a situation

Hello, would you mind offering me some help and/or guidance with the situation here, as well as the section above it on the Talk page titled "February 2025." This editor has called my statements of and references to consensus "stupid," reverted consensus-based edits over and over again, and accused me of prejudice against Indonesian players. This editor has been warned multiple times, both by me and another admin, and doesn't seem interested in understanding the process of arriving at consensus. I have invited them to bring up the issue at WP:FOOTY if they believe that the current consensus is incorrect, but they continue to insist that, somehow, the argument is a "personal" one between the two of us. I'm at a total loss about what to do here. I would appreciate any help and/or guidance you can offer. Anwegmann (talk) 21:50, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

Yes, I'll take a look. GiantSnowman 21:54, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

I appreciate it. Anwegmann (talk) 21:58, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

I hate to be a nag, but I don't know what is going on with these editors who keep making the same edits against consensus. I am having another issue here with an editor both you and I have had problems with recently. It you look at their talk page, it is liters with warnings, including a final warning from you just last month. It feels like this editor is WP:NOTHERE, as they are incredibly insistent on their own phrasing, even when grammatically incorrect, and are now consciously editing against consensus after multiple explanations. I genuinely hate to bring you into another issue like this in 24 hours, but I figured that you would be the person to turn to because you have been involved in it previously. Anwegmann (talk) 17:40, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

I've warned them for edit warring. If they continue, I'll block. GiantSnowman 17:41, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, mate. I appreciate your help, again. I'll let you know if anything else happens. Anwegmann (talk) 17:44, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

Consensus?

Do you think it's fair to say there is consensus here? It's been 48 hours since a comment and it seems like discussion has died down.
Should I suggest closing the discussion and making a policy or should I wait/do nothing? What's the course of action? Paul Vaurie (talk) 02:25, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

Wait for the discussion to be automatically archived, and then add a link to it at WP:FOOTYCONSENSUS. GiantSnowman 09:28, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

MOS:THENICKNAME

Hi GiantSnowman. I saw the outcome regarding Muhammad Ali. Looks like Sonny Liston could go down the same road. To prevent an edit war, should I stop reverting and go somewhere else for help? I edited this certain problem four times since September 2024. I see that others tried to reach out last summer. My encounter with the Ali editor didn't go so well, so I'm asking you first. Thank you in advance. Bringingthewood (talk) 01:53, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

There's a discussion on the Liston talk page. GiantSnowman 15:26, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. Bringingthewood (talk) 22:28, 16 February 2025 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 8, 2025)

Cheesecake recipe from a family cookbook Hello, GiantSnowman. The article for improvement of the week is: Family cookbooks Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Peninsula • Ice cream social Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 17 February 2025 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI •

Editor's abuse of IPs

This, unfortunately, is related to the same editor we have been dealing with concerning the Team of the Month honours. That user appears now to be abusing the use of IPS—possibly this one, this one, and this one. They are making the same disruptive edits, using the same or very similar summaries, and going against the same consensus I have linked and explained to the original user seemingly endlessly here. You're the admin, so I'll leave the decision up to you, but has this not ventured into explicitly disruptive editing at this point? I appreciate your help. Anwegmann (talk) 17:15, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

Yes, if WP:DUCK applies, then he's socking to edit war. I will block. GiantSnowman 17:19, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

Thank you. Please see this editor's talk page as well. They are clearly part of it. Anwegmann (talk) 17:22, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

If you think the two named accounts are the same person, then WP:SPI - otherwise it's possibly WP:MEAT. Either way I have left them a message. GiantSnowman 17:26, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

I was thinking it was WP:MEAT. I'll let you know if IPs show up again. Thanks for your help. Anwegmann (talk) 17:31, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

Vieirinha

They have returned, even without the account blocked they resorted to IP editing (and shouting!). I have reverted AGAIN! They did even "better" this time, reinstating playoff stuff in the box while adding more apps for current spell at PAOK without PC updating...

Attentively, you have been briefed. RevampedEditor (talk) 22:34, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

and shouting, AGAIN. 🧐 Robby.is.on (talk) 09:20, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

Shouting or stressing a particular word? Anything helpful you want to add to this discussion? RevampedEditor (talk) 13:04, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

All caps are usually read as shouting. Looking through your own contributions, you'll find that you are using all caps in every second or third edit summary, often in tandem with multiple exclamation marks.

Your edits often show up in my watchlist and I feel relieved anytime I see an edit summary from you that doesn't communicate disdain or ridicule of other editors' changes.

So my attempt at being helpful is suggesting you self-reflect on your own way of communicating with others. Robby.is.on (talk) 13:36, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

I was about to add more before your re-reply, and wanted to say this: if you mean my particular edit summary at Mr. Vieirinha, yes it was shouting i'll admit it with no qualms. Again and again, me and GiantSnowman (and Snowman completely by the book, no hysterics whatsoever) have told IP/user to stop adding that to the infobox, do they care? I can't talk about Snowman or you my fellow user, but it completely wears me out.

Not to take away from many of my summaries (and your assessment of them), some are downright unnecessary to say the least! Attentively RevampedEditor (talk) 14:42, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

I have blocked the 2 x IPs. In future you can use WP:AIV. GiantSnowman 18:44, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

Category:Eltz has been nominated for renaming

Category:Eltz has been nominated for renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mike Selinker (talk) 08:31, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

Callum Stewart

Dear Sir, grateful if you stop amending the changes I made to Callum Stewart. I am his Dad and can confirm he was born in Warwick hospital and is, via both his parents, Scottish.

Many thanks. RoPop (talk) 15:36, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

Hi there - as you have been repeatedly told, Wikipedia relies on reliable sources to verify information, especially about living people. The sources we have say he was born in Leamington and is English.

Furthermore, you should not edit articles about your son per WP:COI. GiantSnowman 19:05, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

Hi GiantSnowman,

With due respect you are wrong on a number of levels.

Firstly, I have been repeatedly told nothing.

Secondly, your source is the Leamington FC webpage which stated he was born in Leamington which suited their purpose and was close enough to the truth and a change post publishing to Warwick would have been unduly pedantic so it was left unchanged.

Thirdly, your sources Leamington FC or local Warwick / Leamington papers however do not say that he is English merely that he was born and brought up in Leamington. Everyone that knows Callum and everyone at Leamington FC and Coventry Sphinx FC will tell you that he is Scottish due to both his parents. He had a Scottish flag against his name on the Leamington FC webpage.

I don’t intend to continue to write to you and will leave it up to you to decide if you wish to knowingly continue to publish inaccurate information. RoPop (talk) 12:09, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

You were told, at the talk pages of the IP accounts you were editing before.

Where is the reliable source' confirming your claims? For example, he is English here and here. GiantSnowman 18:32, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

Request to rmv admin controls for Prashant Chauhan

Hello, I am David from India. I create pages for elected MLAs and for players selected for Indian National teams. In the process of creating BLPs, I came across this Red Link in the Indian Hockey men's team Page which is protected by admin controls after repeated errors in 2012. Requesting that the page for this BLP may be allowed, in good faith as he is now in the Indian team. thanks and regards! Davidindia (talk) 16:17, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

Which link please? GiantSnowman 19:06, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prashant_Chauhan Davidindia (talk) 14:42, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

I suggest you create a draft at WP:AFC and we can assess. GiantSnowman 15:42, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

This is not the same person. The present BLP I am planning to create, is an Indian player. The earlier BLP 'repeatedly created' appears to be of a politician. (I assumed). I usually create pages for any Indian debutant. I am an autopatrol editor with over 1000 BLP pages. In good faith I approached you since you appears to be the one who protected the page. thanks and best regards. Davidindia (talk) 17:15, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

I know it's not the same person, that is why I have not restored the article, and that is why I suggested you create a draft at AFC. GiantSnowman 17:17, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

Ok sure. thanks for the suggestion. Davidindia (talk) 17:30, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

Editor not communicating

Hey, I hope you don't mind the talk page request, I don't think this warrants an ANI post yet, and the admin I'd usually reach out to for cases like these is unavailable at the moment. I saw you commented on the AfD for USA Cup/Intercontinental Cup 1950, an article which @Jvore7 created. They had a very similar article speedy deleted, and then reverted two attempts to move the article back to draft space, which has inevitably led to the AfD in question. I and four others editors have commented on their talk page, and while they have edited on there (so they know it exists, and this is not a case of WP:THEYCANTHEARYOU), their replies don't really make much sense (perhaps a WP:CIR case as well). Since then they have added similar unsourced content to Beşiktaş J.K.. Would you consider imposing a partial block on article space so that they can discuss their edits without further disruption? If you want me to take this to ANI then let me know and I will do instead. Thanks FozzieHey (talk) 15:22, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

Do you have any diffs of the disruptive edits? I can then properly review. GiantSnowman 15:44, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

Apologies, should have linked those originally.

- So we have an initial edit to User:Jvore7/sandbox, which I believe eventually became USA Cup / Intercontinental Cup which was speedy deleted (although you'll obviously be able to confirm). This is similar to the article at AfD now.

- The first revert of the move to draftspace

- The second revert of the move to draftspace

- The revision history at User talk:Jvore7 shows the attempts to communicate, they subsequently did make two edits to their talk page, but neither of them really make much sense.

- They then made this unsourced edit to Beşiktaş J.K..

Again, if I thought all of these were intentionally bad edits, I would have gone straight to ANI, but I believe this is more a WP:CIR case so I felt trying to get them to discuss their edits via a partial block was the better approach. FozzieHey (talk) 16:02, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

A few more, making unsourced edits to List of Beşiktaş J.K. honors. This edit seems like a copy and paste from another wiki (without any translation)? Linking to their article on seemingly unrelated pages. I'm sure they could improve their edits with some discussion, but not being able to effectively communicate on talk pages is a big barrier to that, and recreating articles / reverting draftifications doesn't help either. FozzieHey (talk) 16:28, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

I've deleted the copyvio, and warned them about unsourced content. Please let me know if it continues. GiantSnowman 16:36, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a look, I will do. I do find cases like this to be the trickiest at dealing with, as it is obviously not vandalism, but still causes disruption. FozzieHey (talk) 16:40, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 9, 2025)

Katz's Delicatessen, a popular Jewish deli on the Lower East Side in New York City Hello, GiantSnowman. The article for improvement of the week is: Jewish deli Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Family cookbooks • Peninsula Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 24 February 2025 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI •

Proposed deletion of Steef Weijers

The article Steef Weijers has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Only notability is being elected with no significance beyond that.

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You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. MimirIsSmart (talk) 01:54, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

Shea Pita

This one notable at all? Drmies (talk) 18:21, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

Not that I can see; I suggest delete or draftify. GiantSnowman 18:22, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!

Thank you! GiantSnowman 08:52, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

Yun Ju-tae

Hi, what exactly is needed here? One field was filled in by a disruptive IP hopper's arbitrary infobox image size change, while |fullname= will never be used in this article because it should only be used when the subject's birth name is different from the article title. ✗plicit 11:42, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

Image_size has been replaced by upright, but it nevertheless deals with image size. Full name is always used for footballers, even if their full name is the same (subject to sourcing, of course). GiantSnowman 11:48, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

As you stated and as does Template:Infobox football biography, Image_size was deprecated and should be avoided. Then, why did you restore it? ✗plicit 11:55, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

Why did you delete it entirely? GiantSnowman 11:56, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

Because there is no reason to scale down the infobox image without a valid reason to do so. MOS:INFOBOXSTYLE states this (related discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Infoboxes#Increasing infobox image size for aesthetic purposes). I'm only contesting the scaling down, not the existence of the field, even if its left empty. ✗plicit 12:04, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

I didn't scale it down. GiantSnowman 12:07, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

I'm well aware of that, I pointed out in my opening message that an IP hopper did. You're fine with me simply blanking the field, right? The only issue you take is with me removing the fields entirely? ✗plicit 12:10, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

Yeah I have zero opinion on image size, my issue is removing the parameters completely. GiantSnowman 18:37, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

0.7 probably was too much scaling down but without any scaling down at all the image at Yun Ju-tae is really rather large. I've changed it to 0.8. Robby.is.on (talk) 12:25, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for cleaning up the infobox/article Robby, as ever. GiantSnowman 18:37, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

You're welcome. :-) Robby.is.on (talk) 21:21, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 10, 2025)

A kerosene storage tank Hello, GiantSnowman. The article for improvement of the week is: Kerosene Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Jewish deli • Family cookbooks Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 3 March 2025 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI •

Conor Sellars reversion

I have to disagree with you on the use of {{WorldFootball.net}} as a reference, the template documentation indicates "It is intended for use in the external links section of an article.". If it is it be used as a reference in an article it would need to have an |access-date= parameter. Keith D (talk) 18:57, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Then feel free to request someone with the technical ability (alas not me!) to improve the template; the reference should not be removed. GiantSnowman 19:00, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Sigurd Grønli (footballer)

Hi. You have wrongly accused me of adding uncoursed info to a page. If you had read the source that I provided in the article, it clearly states that he played for both clubs in question in his youth. I understand that it isn’t your job to read every source added to a page, but if you don’t, then please stop accusing me of adding unsourced info and removing it. I’ll add the relevant info you took out back again if I don't hear back from you. Eggman02 (talk) 21:01, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

My warning was justified from the amount of content that I have had to remove or tag with {{citation needed}} - not to mention all the poor language I have had to correct. GiantSnowman 21:46, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

I mean, you’re just straight up wrong about there not being any sources for the info I provided, and as such there were no reason to remove any of the info provided. However, I have moved some of the sources to try and make it clearer what info is from which source. Feel free to have a look at the new edit and tell me any issues you still have. Eggman02 (talk) 15:35, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

If it's not clear where the sourcing is, it is essentially unsourced. GiantSnowman 18:47, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

But it is clear though. The piece of info in question is about his first two clubs. In the main part of the page, I sourced the newspaper where it clearly states that he has played for these two clubs before moving to his first professional club (source number 3 in the article). The source came right after the sentence about these two specific clubs are mentioned, just as any other piece of info normally added. How is this not clear? Eggman02 (talk) 20:00, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

Why can't you simply add the source? GiantSnowman 20:12, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

I have, that's my whole point. The source is already there. Reference number 3 covers that he played for these clubs. I don't know how many different ways I can say this. Eggman02 (talk) 20:46, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

Then add back the content, clearly sourced this time. GiantSnowman 21:13, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

It was sourced you deleted it? Iblethebible (talk) 22:18, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

No idea who you are or why you are joining in. See above. Not clearly sourced. GiantSnowman 20:39, 5 March 2025 (UTC)

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"Ed Vezey" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Ed Vezey has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 March 7 § Ed Vezey until a consensus is reached. - \\'cԼF 05:09, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

Question

Hi, I see you have a copy of the RfD here, so I wanted to ask you a little about the background, I was hoping you could clear some things up. You created this redirect in 2016, but it's not clear why. Was there an article on Vezey that was deleted as "redirect" just prior? And in any case, why point it at USS Oklahoma? It appears there was no mention of him in the article at that point, or at any other time around then. (Which is hardly suprising as such addititions are usually removed as superfluous/wp:not.) It seems he wasn't added to the article until you added him in late 2019 when this redirect was first nom'd for deletion at RfD. (He was removed sometime later per wp:not.) Also, if the significance here was that Vezey was the "last survivor of that crew from Pearl Harbor that survived", well... there was an attempt to add a similar edit just two months later that shows Vezey was actually not the last surviving member of that crew, which really makes this redirect of no use. (That entry was also removed per wp:not) Anyway, if you can help clear any this up, it would be appreciated. Thanks for your time. - \\'cԼF 07:19, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

I likely will have seen his name at Deaths in 2016 and redirected accordingly, per the numerous media sources that say he was the last survivor. It's no deeper than that. GiantSnowman 17:50, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

Fair enough. Thanks for the reply. Cheers - \\'cԼF 18:31, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

Yo mid-sized snowdude

199.119.233.146 wants to go play outside. Maybe you can help? Polygnotus (talk) 14:17, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

I have left them a final warning - let me know if they re-appear. GiantSnowman 14:19, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

Sigh. They re-appeared. Thanks. Polygnotus (talk) 14:24, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

Blocked, thanks. GiantSnowman 15:08, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 11, 2025)

Wooden rake Hello, GiantSnowman. The article for improvement of the week is: Rake (tool) Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Kerosene • Jewish deli Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 10 March 2025 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI •

Consistency in Stadium Naming Conventions

Dear GiantSnowman, in connection with your response on Talk:Father Władysław Augustynek Stadium, I encourage you to take a broader view and consider the consistency of stadium naming conventions. I believe that your goal is dialogue and that anyone can change their mind—there’s no shame in that. However, if this perspective isn’t reconsidered, we risk ending up with some stadiums named Stadion Miejski (Gdynia) (since we don’t translate names into English on our own) while others are named Tychy Municipal Stadium (because we do translate names on our own). Wouldn’t it be better to apply a uniform approach? If we agree that consistency is key, then of course, a uniform approach is the best solution. I’d like to encourage you to support moving the following articles accordingly:

• Talk:Piotr Wieczorek Municipal Stadium → Requested move 9 March 2025
• Talk:Lubin Stadium → Requested move 9 March 2025
• Talk:Elbląg Municipal Stadium → Requested move 9 March 2025
• Talk:GKS Katowice Stadium → Requested move 9 March 2025
• Talk:Widzew Łódź Stadium → Requested move 9 March 2025
• Talk:Jastrzębie-Zdrój Stadium → Requested move 8 March 2025
• Talk:Father Władysław Augustynek Stadium → Requested move 9 March 2025
• Talk:Łęczna Stadium → Requested move 9 March 2025
• Talk:Tychy Municipal Stadium → Requested move 9 March 2025

I’d appreciate your thoughts on this! Paradygmaty (talk) 08:46, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Making so many nominations in a short time is disruptive. GiantSnowman 18:05, 11 March 2025 (UTC)

Dialogue

@GiantSnowman, I engaged in User_talk:GiantSnowman#Consistency_in_Stadium_Naming_Conventions with the genuine intention of working towards a consistent naming convention for Polish stadiums. I don’t understand the tone you’ve taken in this discussion (Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Paradygmaty), as my goal was to clarify the issue, not create conflict. If you’re open to dialogue, I’d be happy to explain my perspective—but if not, I apologize for any frustration I may have caused and won’t bother you further, though I must admit I’m disappointed by how this played out. Paradygmaty (talk) 15:37, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

If you want to establish a standard, then start a central discussion first, rather than a bunch of disruptive RMs. GiantSnowman 18:37, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

Fair enough @GiantSnowman - how would you recommend starting a central discussion in a way that ensures clarity and avoids unnecessary confusion? I’m open to suggestions on the best venue and approach. If you have a preferred way to structure this discussion, I’d be happy to follow that to keep things productive. Paradygmaty (talk) 17:09, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

Start a discussion at WT:FOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 18:12, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

Got it. I’ll start a discussion there. Just to make sure we’re aligned - are there any specific points you think should be covered from the outset to make the conversation more effective? Paradygmaty (talk) 18:20, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

Make your case clearly and concisely and supported by evidence/sources. GiantSnowman 18:24, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

Thanks. The core issue is that we currently have a mix of Polish and English names - some remain in Polish due to a lack of established English usage (Stadion Miejski (Białystok), while others are translated because the guideline suggests non-official names should be localized (Kielce Municipal Stadium). This inconsistency creates confusion. Would you suggest advocating for full translation into English, full retention of Polish names, or another approach? I’d like to frame the discussion in a way that leads to a clear and applicable outcome. Paradygmaty (talk) 18:28, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

I see you’re responding to others but not to me - frustrating, to say the least. Could you address my question? How do you suggest resolving the inconsistency between Polish and English stadium names? Paradygmaty (talk) 13:19, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

It's not something I have an interest in - I have already suggested where you might start the discussion, but it is for you to decide how. GiantSnowman 14:11, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

Understood. I approached this discussion in good faith, hoping to clarify the issue, but if that’s your stance, I won’t take more of your time. I’ll proceed with the broader discussion as suggested. Paradygmaty (talk) 16:23, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

I am only one person. There needs to be a consensus, meaning there needs to be a wider discussion at a central location. GiantSnowman 16:37, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for your input, I appreciate it. Lately, I’ve gotten more involved than I originally planned, and while I had a lot of energy for the discussion, the lack of good faith and the accusations of vandalism, despite my open approach, have left me feeling disheartened. I’ll step back and leave the chaos to you all. Best of luck. Paradygmaty (talk) 17:07, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

Links to foreign-language pages

Hey mate, I've continually run into a rotating group of IPs—very obviously controlled by the same person—who insistently link foreign-language articles for players in rosters who don't have an English article. I have seen random discussions about this before, but I can't seem to find any of them when I look back at WP:FOOTY. From my understanding, and based on almost universal practice across just about every football-related article, the consensus is that we do not link foreign-language articles unless there is a clear, demonstrable reason for it. These IPs—as evidenced at FK Partizan and FK TSC most recently—continue to revert my corrections without any explanation. Can you clarify the consensus or at least give me your take on linking foreign-language Wiki articles? I appreciate your help and guidance. Anwegmann (talk) 21:23, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

It's not common but I don't see a huge issue with it. See MOS:UL - "If an article exists on a non-English language Wikipedia but not yet in English, consider a red link that also links to the non-English language article". GiantSnowman 21:53, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

Okay, that's good to see. I've been trying to guide them toward WP:ILL, which says the same thing and shows how to do that. They don't seem to be very interested in following that guidance, but I will continue to give it a go. Thanks for the help! Anwegmann (talk) 22:07, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

Edits like this are disruptive - the point of the interlanguage link is to keep a red link here for article creation, but what they are doing does not allow that. If they continue with disruptive edits like that, then we will need to block. GiantSnowman 22:10, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

That is exactly what they, through a rotating series of IPs, have been doing insistently. Anwegmann (talk) 22:13, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

In which case revert, warn, and if it continues, we semi-protect pages and/or seek a range block. GiantSnowman 14:05, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 12, 2025)

Hello, GiantSnowman. The article for improvement of the week is: Cove Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Rake (tool) • Kerosene Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 17 March 2025 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI •

CfD nomination at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 March 19 § Association football players by country and populated place

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This week's article for improvement (week 13, 2025)

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Live updates by AlexWanderer1192

At Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football/Archive_168#Live Scores you asked to be notified if @AlexWanderer1192 made more live updates. Well, the editor is at it again on 2026 FIFA World Cup qualification – UEFA Group K during England's matches. Thanks! Wburrow (talk) 20:47, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, I have left them a final warning, let me know if they keep at it tonight. GiantSnowman 21:12, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

Lloyd Scott Changes

Hello there I would quite like to know why you have heavily edited my page so much? I am best known as a charity fundraiser, not the second rate footballer (not denying that!), which you seem to have focused on and does not define me! I have been undertaking my challenges for many years, raising millions of pounds for Charity - that is now not the primary focus of my Wiki page! Lloydscottmbe (talk) 16:40, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia - it is NOT a promotional page for you. You should not edit the article again per WP:COI / WP:AUTOBIO. If you think information is missing and you have reliable third-party sources which detail it, let me know. GiantSnowman 16:42, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

I see your interest is football - so you can put football stuff on my page?

I would like to know what part of my page was self promotional?

There were a list of my charity challenges, which are all factual - not at all promotional - but nothing like 'Lloyd is a great bloke'

Also you have not answered my question, as to what happens if someone edits my page with incorrect or abusive comments Lloydscottmbe (talk) 16:53, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Your talk of "primary focus" is clearly promotional. If there are no sources, there is no information.

PS You did not ask that question. Vandalism is reverted and vandals are blocked from editing. GiantSnowman 16:56, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

You did not ask that question. It's at User talk:Lloydscottmbe. Robby.is.on (talk) 17:06, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

I am not watching that page and I was not pinged! GiantSnowman 17:11, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Really VERY unhappy with the way you have responded. Your primary focus is clearly football and that is what you have put on my page!

The vandalisim I received on my page was not reverted nor blocked.

So your focus is on someone that plays 2 football league games rather than someone that spends over 30 years raising over £10 million for a number of good causes.

I didn't even set up my page - I have no idea who did.

When people started to mess with it - I merely corrected it and updated.

There is nothing self promotional, no opinion, comments, viewpoints or congratulatory praise in anything that was on my page - it is all factual. That is why I am so upset about this.

I have always upheld myself to undertake these fundraising challenges for the the very best of reasons, having suffered from leukaemia and now suffering from synovial sarcoma (do you need my medical records to confim this?)

If possible, I would like to take this matter further - could you please advise how.

Many thanks

Kindest regards

Lloyd Lloydscottmbe (talk) 17:25, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia relies on reliable sources to verify information, especially about living people. The information you added had no sources, so it was removed. As you have already been informed - if you think information is missing and you have reliable third-party sources which detail it, let me know.

There is nothing that can be done about historical vandalism that has since been corrected.

Your page is in a significantly better state than it was before I cleaned it up. GiantSnowman 17:30, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

There were a list of my charity challenges, which are all factual. Lloyd, the content of a Wikipedia article should be determined by what reliable sources (see WP:RS) report. If you can show that the charity challenges received coverage by such sources, they can be included. Robby.is.on (talk) 17:09, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Really, because it focuses on your favourite topic? Your viewpoint is entirely subjective - so don't tell me it is better.

Can you please tell me how to take this matter further, as you failed to respond to me on this point. 2A00:23C5:E3DE:F300:6FC5:113E:CBFF:F022 (talk) 17:35, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

What do you mean, 'take it further'? There is no complaints procedure here. If you have concerns about your page, raise at WP:BLPN. If you have concerns about me, raise at WP:ANI, but be careful about WP:BOOMERANG... GiantSnowman 17:37, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

I certainly will. Your attitude has been extremely poor. There may well be guidelines, but your manner is lacking and disappointing. Seems to me you revel in it! As someone who responded to the appeals and actually contributes to Wikipedia - you have ensured that I no longer will.

Have a good evening. 2A00:23C5:E3DE:F300:6FC5:113E:CBFF:F022 (talk) 17:58, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

@Lloydscottmbe:, because it focuses on your favourite topic? I don't see what I have done to receive such bad-faith accusations. All I did here on GiantSnowman's Talk page and on yours is explain how Wikipedia works. Your viewpoint is entirely subjective I didn't express any viewpoint, did I? I just explained Wikipedia policy. Robby.is.on (talk) 00:45, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

Apologies - I was not referring to you. Your manner has been far more courteous and understanding. Sorry once again.

Lloyd 2A00:23C5:E3DE:F300:A2E4:F3C9:6BC5:E258 (talk) 02:11, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks for clearing that up. Robby.is.on (talk) 10:05, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 14, 2025)

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Lazar Kojić

10 (1) in 2024 and 4 (0) in 2025. So, 14 (1). -- Makenzis (talk) 15:38, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Afd April Fools Day joke nomination

Hello there! I made a joke nomination about Gianluigi Buffon at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/April Fools' Day 2025 that, as we both participate in football AFD discussions, I thought you'd find funny (yes I look very desperate but it's still good humour) RossEvans19 (talk) 18:44, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 15, 2025)

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Shepperd

You are wrong Shepperd played 79 games for Dundalk. Stop incorrectly editing it Oeufnsheep (talk) 18:21, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

No, as I have explained to you multiple times already - it is league stats only, not stats from all competitions. GiantSnowman 18:22, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

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David McGill (footballer)

I have noticed that your most recent edits via JWB (bot?) have removed McGill's height despite my re-addition as well as sharing where I had gathered said info. Can you explain why you continue to remove this? GauchoDude (talk) 00:34, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

Edit - Apologies, it was David McGill (footballer) for one edit and Bryan Byrne (footballer) for the other edit, both in similar fashion removing the heights. GauchoDude (talk) 00:36, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, because they were (and remain, are you re-added them), without a source. They need a direct citation for height. GiantSnowman 06:10, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

Great, they were in the edit summaries. Didn't know this was so controversial. I've copy/pasted it in whatever format to appease the masses. GauchoDude (talk) 22:12, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

Adding sources to BLPs is NOT "appeasing the masses". GiantSnowman 08:40, 13 April 2025 (UTC)

Apologies about my tone

In my very recent reply to you on the MoS I possibly came across as infuriatingly condescending by pointing out what an RfC is and not expecting you to be able to find the links to them as well as spelling out Stepho's points. Sorry about that. I didn't realise your level of Wikipedia experience and I was being lazy not finding the links myself. The US-centralism and other ridiculousness of guidelines around here is something I have unfortunately come to accept so I just point others to them and close my eyes. Commander Keane (talk) 09:02, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

No offence taken, no apology needed, but thanks for reaching out! GiantSnowman 09:16, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

Miroslav Kvočka

G'day GS, I saw that you added Bosnian to the lead sentence of Miroslav Kvočka. When I was writing it, I was in two minds about nationality vs. ethnicity here. Bosnian, while obviously shorthand for "person from Bosnia and Herzegovina" is often associated with Bosnian Muslim people, per Bosniak. Given his crimes were ethnically-based, this might be an occasion when MOS:ETHNICITY would allow "Bosnian Serb" to be used because his ethnicity and that of his victims is directly related to his notability. Interested in your thoughts on this. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 11:24, 13 April 2025 (UTC)

'Bosnian' definitely, 'Bosnian Serb' possibly - perhaps later in the lede rather than at the start? GiantSnowman 11:57, 13 April 2025 (UTC)

Vieirinha

At it again, just can't tell if it's the same nuisance (GregorKai not blocked as far as i can see) or another one! This account went as far as REMOVING all playoff stats from the chart below in order to justify their version!!

Attentively RevampedEditor (talk) 19:51, 13 April 2025 (UTC)

Feel free to raise at WP:SPI. GiantSnowman 20:30, 13 April 2025 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 16, 2025)

Japan as seen from a satellite. Honshu is the largest, middle island. Hello, GiantSnowman. The article for improvement of the week is: Honshu Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Plate (dishware) • Jack Black Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 14 April 2025 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI •

Miguel Maquez

Hi, Snowman. Sorry again for that whole mess with Miguel Márquez. That swamp was simply a desperate last-ditch effort to save my 0% deletion ratio (currently 932–0).

On that note, I was wondering if we couldn’t prevent his deletion by turning it into a redirect to Miguel Márquez (sculptor), who shares the name and was also a footballer. I obviously know that such a move is not recommended, but it would ultimately be a harmless redirect.

Think about it: Miguel Márquez (footballer) → Miguel Márquez (sculptor) = Pedro Serra (footballer) → Pedro Serra, or even Ernest Hillard (footballer) → Ernest Hillard.

If you are worried about the Miguel Márquez (disambiguation), then don’t be. I can replace Miguel Márquez (footballer) with an interwiki link to its counterpart in the German Wiki; just like this: Miguel Márquez (footballer).

The discussion is currently two deletes versus one redirect, but you can turn the tides. Furthermore, I would just like to remind you that I have dramatically improved one of your articles (Herbert Potts), so this is the least you can do for me (I was never good at emotional manipulation, but at least I’m trying).

Enjoy your vocation and kind regards. Barr Theo (talk) 01:38, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

Beware of WP:CANVASS. Robby.is.on (talk) 10:30, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

Sorry about the WP:CANVASS. I intend this to be a one-time thing. Barr Theo (talk) 13:29, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

Let's wait for the AFD to finish, and then depending on outcome we can decide how to deal with the situation. That avoids any mess. GiantSnowman 10:46, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

@GiantSnowman: If we wait for the AFD to finish, Márquez will get deleted, and my 0% deletion ratio will get permanently and irreversibly ruined. That's exactly why I'm trying to rush you right now.

"Depending on outcome", yeah, the outcome will be delete, but if you help me out, it can be redirect. And it won't create any more mess for the reasons I stated above. Kind regards. Barr Theo (talk) 13:19, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

Your deletion ratio is, respectfully, totally irrelevant. GiantSnowman 21:57, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, that's the kind of attitude I would expect from someone with 323 deleted articles... Thanks for your patience anyways. Barr Theo (talk) 23:18, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

Reliable refs for Nandini (footballer) - AfD

Hi sir, as per your comment, I am pinging you with the Reliable secondary sources. Two sources 1, 2, have indepth coverage. Tribune is a reliable, independent news publication. Amar Ujala founded in 1948 is also the third highest Hindi newspaper in India with 22 editions. I hope these fulfill GNG. Or else, can I request that the BLP may be draftified as new team announcement is expected soon. thanks and regards! Davidindia (talk) 03:46, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

The first source is good, the second source OK. Fine to draftify, I'll comment accordingly. GiantSnowman 14:25, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Trisha Stratford

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In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

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This week's article for improvement (week 17, 2025)

Homemade sock monkeys have been part of U.S. and Canadian culture since the Great Depression. Hello, GiantSnowman. The article for improvement of the week is: Stuffed toy Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Honshu • Plate (dishware) Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 21 April 2025 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI •

Harry McMenemy

Hello,

I notice you reverted my reference to a specific date of death for Harry McMenemy I have a reference from Transfermarkt to this date available here - https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/harry-mcmenemy/profil/spieler/1160607

Much like Wikipedia, changes on Transfermarkt are subject to approval by a data moderator with a source. Marcjwallace (talk) 02:32, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Marcjwallace:. I believe GiantSnowman is travelling so I'll respond. Transfermarkt had been established as being user-generated at Wikipedia's Reliable sources Noticeboard. See the two discussions linked at WP:WPFLINKSNO for Transfermarkt and Soccerdonna for details. To overturn Transfermarkt's categorisation as user-generated and therefore unreliable would require a new discussion with a different outcome. Much like Wikipedia, changes on Transfermarkt are subject to approval by a data moderator with a source. Wikipedia does not have "data moderator"s. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 10:00, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi,

I was just passing by but I know for a fact that all information that you can enter on Transfermarkt via the editing form is after that approved by an administrator.

Any source of course may have mistakes - but I guarantee that the result of the discussion of 2013, whether or not factual at that time, is obsolete as of today. I personally tried to correct some information in players' profiles on Transfermarkt - and the moderators always required source and checked it. Peutro (talk) 12:16, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Feel free to open a discussion at the Reliable sources Noticeboard, @Peutro:. Until WP:CONSENSUS changes, we need to treat Transfermarkt as unreliable. Robby.is.on (talk) 12:20, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Yes, as Robby says, and I already told you here, Transfermarkt is not a reliable source. GiantSnowman 12:46, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Draft page review

Hi GiantSnowman,

I have seen your considerable contribution for the football Wiki project and that you are open for questions, and I wanted to ask if you'd be so kind to review the draft for a footballer I created?

I have written a number of pages about athletes on Russian Wiki, but I know that the rules may differ between Wikis in various languages.

The footballer in question is something of a niche - I wouldn't call him a celebrity, but more well-known than many other low-tier footballers, as he took part in some YouTube media football reality show videos (over 1mln views), hence we got to know him through them. His recent move to the Mongolian premier league also gathered some press.

I would really appreciate some mentoring or advice considering the subject and the draft page. Peutro (talk) 09:50, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Which of the sources are significant coverage? GiantSnowman 12:47, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Manual of Style

Hi. I'd like to offer you an alternative to repeatedly reverting my changes to the articles. It will be a more convoluted process, of course, but you can (and should) speak up about your issue with unlinking settlements and municipalities at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Linking. As I mentioned before, there have been discussions surrounding the confusion of this topic, but there really hasn't been a challenge to the current wording there. If there was ever a time do do something like that, it's safe to say that it's probably now. Dawnseeker2000 14:03, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

I don't have the time - you have been asked to not de-link cities and you continue to ignore. GiantSnowman 12:27, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Nomination of Ymer Abili for deletion

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April 2025

apologies that I didn't list the source in Christopher Caserne. I thought I didn't need to because the source was already listed in the article Scooby453w (talk) 17:19, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

Information needs to be directly cited please. GiantSnowman 21:18, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

Ok... Scooby453w (talk) 21:35, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

Notability?

A page appeared recently that I can't figure out notability wise. Mathew Baker (footballer, born 2009) is 15 years old, plays for his club's under-18 team, and represents Indonesia at under-17 level. There is a bit of WP:SIGCOV about this player, almost entirely based on his appearances for the Indonesia under-17s, but it seems odd to me to consider a 15-year-old who has never played professional football, still plays several levels below the first team, never represented a senior national team, and is basically just a regular youth player notable. Under the new notability standards, do you think this player fits the mold, or do you think this player is more representative of WP:TOOSOON? Anwegmann (talk) 01:15, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

At best it's an article to draftify, I would suggest. GiantSnowman 01:31, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

That's what I was thinking too. Thanks. Anwegmann (talk) 02:38, 24 April 2025 (UTC)

Please refrain from making edits that help no one

Like this one: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roberto_Firmino&diff=prev&oldid=1287324275 Thank you FMSky (talk) 14:36, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

Respectfully, it is your edit which is unhelpful, and your conduct which is disruptive. Per BRD, you have been reverted, so please start a discussion on the article talk page. GiantSnowman 14:39, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

What is disruptive about bundling a ridiculous ref overkill in the lead? --FMSky (talk) 14:40, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

Your edit warring is disruptive. As suggested, please take to the talk page. GiantSnowman 14:40, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

I've done this for you, FYI. GiantSnowman 14:52, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, and sorry for the reverts, I just wasn't really sure what the issue with my edit was --FMSky (talk) 14:53, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 18, 2025)

Hello, GiantSnowman. The article for improvement of the week is: Internet research Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Stuffed toy • Honshu Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:44, 28 April 2025 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI •

10alatham

Wouldn't have thought so. Don't recall Mr Latham having any particular interest in images. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 14:12, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

Great, thanks - glad I checked! GiantSnowman 14:34, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

Leon Lobjoit article

Hi there - I noticed you reverted the update I wrote on Leon Lobjoit. I’m not sure what I wrote was incorrect and I didn’t add any speculation either. Could you please provide me with examples? His Wikipedia page is now showing out of date informatuon. Beanolabub (talk) 07:11, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

We rely on factual, neutral information, supported by reliable sources - comments like "a remarkable run of form" etc. are entirely inappropriate, hence the revert. GiantSnowman 14:00, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 19, 2025)

Mainboard of a NeXTcube computer Hello, GiantSnowman. The article for improvement of the week is: Motherboard Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Internet research • Stuffed toy Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 5 May 2025 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI •

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Socks of Angrewhn

There are a series of short-lived usernames that are almost certainly socks of User:Angrewhn. These users are several varieties of EwingHD, EwingHB, EwingHG, etc. Their very isolated edits have the same obsessive focus on "Personal life" sections of Dutch footballers who recently switched to represent Indonesia. You can see their edits at Eliano Reijander and Kevin Diks, both of which are absolutely inundated with similar one-off accounts that make nearly identical edits—which very well may be socks of User:Angrewhn as well. It might be something you should look at, as it feels like a WP:DUCK situation. If anything, it looks like abusively using multiple accounts, but they really feel like socks. Anwegmann (talk) 18:30, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

I've blocked the 2 I can see at those articles - let me know if there are others. GiantSnowman 18:33, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

I appreciate it. I'll be on the look out. Anwegmann (talk) 18:36, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

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Aaron Hickey

Hi there,

Thanks for your message. I wonder if you may be kind enough please to elaborate further? Specifically, in what was the Aaron Hickey edit you refer to non-constructive? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.156.65.190 (talk • contribs)

Vieirinha

Maybe this will NEVER be over, at least not in our lifetime... Friday, i noticed the incoherence regarding the Greek playoffs and took two hours of my time to fix both the box and the chart below in that regard. To no avail, vandal (the same or another one!) continue to "go to town" in the infobox, now they are inserting stats for ALL competitions; to add insult to injury, they are now saying the subject has retired without presenting a source (i admit it's true, played aged 39), but still... You have been briefed!

Attentively RevampedEditor (talk) 22:11, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

• Oh, and player has played TODAY (it was also me editing logged off, no harm there especially since i'm admitting it!), so retirement will "have to wait", no? --RevampedEditor (talk) 22:37, 11 May 2025 (UTC)

  Protected for 3 months. GiantSnowman 17:28, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, mate! But, before you could enforce it, article vandalised again by User:Thanbla (league only ends on 22 MAY and they keep retiring the player, geez...) --RevampedEditor (talk) 17:42, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

• OK player has retired, source added by user mentioned above. That same user, however, is now adding his final two PLAYOFF appearances to the infobox, doing the same in the chart below even tough they are already there (in the CORRECT column)!! I have already reached out to them, let's see the reply... --RevampedEditor (talk) 13:36, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

They actually messaged me first, i replied and they followed suit. At least with said user, everything seems to have been addressed properly, just briefing you. --RevampedEditor (talk) 14:01, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

OK, let me know if you need any further help. GiantSnowman 18:07, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 20, 2025)

Hello, GiantSnowman. The article for improvement of the week is: Pneumatics Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Motherboard • Internet research Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 12 May 2025 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI •

Sorry for move confusion

I just wanted to come here to apologize for the requested move issues, I should have seen the right thing as nominating them all one at a time, and seasons can be done later. Just another question about it, should I go through all the season pages and remove the move template, or will that be done automatically? Yoblyblob (Talk) :) 22:06, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

That's OK - like I said, reach out if you're ever unsure. Saying that, unsure about RM tags being removed! GiantSnowman 08:02, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

Histmerge request

Hey GiantSnowman, Would you do a histmerge on Draft:Nicola Golen, which was created before Nicola Golen. Thanks in advance. RedPatch (talk) 11:00, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

 Done GiantSnowman 10:22, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

Thank you! RedPatch (talk) 10:57, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

Joe Bradshaw (footballer)

Can you please explain the reasons for your recent reversion. What was not “good”? Daemonickangaroo2018 (talk) 15:02, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

I saw that you had re-formatted the infobox, which in fairness is better, but not as per the MOS. I've fixed. GiantSnowman 10:24, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

Question regarding removal of section from Emmanuel Kundé article

Hello friend, hope you're doing great!

I noticed you recently removed an entire section from the Emmanuel Kundé article 1290728573. I totally get the need to keep things verifiable and well-sourced on Wikipedia, but I was just curious, was there a reason you decided to delete the whole section instead of tagging it for needing sources (like with {{unreferenced section}} or {{citation needed}})?

Just thinking it might have given others a chance to work on improving it, since the info seemed like it could be valuable if properly sourced.

Would love to hear your thoughts on it!

Cheers, Afro 📢Talk! 16:18, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

The information has been present, unsourced, for years - so the chance has gone. Feel free to source it. GiantSnowman 21:04, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

Draft:Andrew Oluwabori

Hey, what are your thoughts on how far off this article is on meeting the GNG - I notice this one was deleted by yourself but the draft at least appears to be in good shape - are you waiting on a couple more sources? OGLV (talk) 17:42, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

I don't think there's enough sourcing there. GiantSnowman 21:04, 18 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for confirming. It appears he has previously played under the name Andrew Ijiwole (numerous sources with the same DOB, career history, images etc) which seems to pull up a few more relevant sources. OGLV (talk) 21:34, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Feel free to add sources and we can re-visit. GiantSnowman 19:37, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

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Supercopa de Espana / The Man Sayem Molla The Greatest

Hi GiantSnowman - hope all is well. I saw you blocked this user. Are you able to restore the versions o the Supercopa de Espana to prior to their editing spree yesterday? The 2025 Supercopa de España now redirects to the main article and 2025 is now 2024. I've tried undoing and rolling back but this user seems to have done so many bad and conflicting edits, that I can not figure out how to restore the proper versions. Thank you! Rupert1904 (talk) 14:17, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

The details of the 2025 competition (played entirely in that calender year within the 2024-25 season, with that name used by the organisers and subject to a lengthy article nanning debate along with the Italian equivalent) have been placed into the 2024 article, which now contains several cyclical links back to 'itself' with reference to the Jan 2024 event, with the same going for the other years going back to 2020. I cannot find the 2020 information at all at the moment, as the 2021 tournament appears to have been forced into its place. I'm sure it will be somewhere. The articles on the finals appear to be OK and might be a good starting point in attempting to unravel it. Crowsus (talk) 16:15, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

The 2020 tournament, which was at the correct location until the blocked user got involved, is now located at 2019 Supercopa de España having been moved 'back' there by @Pppery: whose input I assess to be entirely with good intentions in a confusing situation. However, the solution applied to the rogue move is incorrect and has affected all 6 articles. Crowsus (talk) 16:39, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

I just did what Wjemather requested me to do via {{db-move}}, assuming that the regular editors in this area knew what they were doing. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:40, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

@Pppery: Of course, i have removed all my mutterings of bad faith above, I believe I was misreading the summary history, certainly I can see your moves were just uninvolved admin stuff. GiantSnowman has a holiday tag on his page, would you be able to adjust the moves? They are all simply one year 'behind': the info at 2019 should go in the article called 2020 and so on, with 2025 populated with the most recent tournament and 2019 becoming the redirect (to 2020). There's no huge rush but I'm worried other editors might see it and try to fix it piecemeal, potentially causing further confusion and wasting their time. Crowsus (talk) 16:51, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

I'd prefer to leave the technical execution of this to someone who knows what they are doing rather than engaging in a finnicky series of page moves after my previous attempt backfired. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 16:56, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

As I posted at WT:FOOTY, I cleaned up as much as I could but was disappearing down a rabbit hole I wasn't inclined to go down, so requested the wikiproject complete the task as they're the ones with the knowledge. I didn't look into whether the page moves were valid or not, and wouldn't be able to reverse them anyway due to the aforementioned copy-paste duplication of content everywhere. I requested the db-moves to fix the copy-paste duplication of content and maintain the editing history at article titles that were incorrectly spelled (missing the "ñ"). Good luck! _wjemather^{please leave a message...} 16:58, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Lot going any here - how can I assist? GiantSnowman 19:37, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi GS, sorry for delay, this is fairly straightforward to explain but I fear might not be so easy to fix. The articles in this set were subject to copy-and-paste moves and accidentally re-assigned to the wrong year upon reversion:

• The info currently in 2019 Supercopa de España for the matches played in January 2020 should be in 2020 Supercopa de España;
• The info currently in 2020 Supercopa de España for the matches played in January 2021 should be in 2021 Supercopa de España;
• The info currently in 2021 Supercopa de España for the matches played in January 2022 should be in 2022 Supercopa de España;
• The info currently in 2022 Supercopa de España for the matches played in January 2023 should be in 2023 Supercopa de España;
• The info currently in 2023 Supercopa de España for the matches played in January 2024 should be in 2024 Supercopa de España;
• The info currently in 2024 Supercopa de España for the matches played in January 2025 should be in 2025 Supercopa de España;
• 2019 Supercopa de España should be made a redirect, either to 2020 Supercopa de España or the Supercopa de España overview.

This will revert the articles to their accepted state (as outlined above, the terminology used by the organisers and agreed upon by consensus at WP) before the unilateral and botched interventions of the blocked user. Aside from the title, bold text in lead and infobox, the info for each year is still correct, and I am happy to do the required tidying up on each. Thanks. Crowsus (talk) 22:01, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

I think we need a WP:RM on this? GiantSnowman 12:24, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

100% definitely, on the WT:Footy page, I've pointed out the current page titles are causing navigation issues by not allowing people to navigate to the previous edition next to the left arrow in these infoboxes. And, the following year link gets us to go to the edition two years later. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 17:35, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Its not a RM, they have just been assigned to the wrong year in the reversion of the undiscussed move. Its a fix of a mistake. Nobody apart from the user you have already banned is advocating for the years to be changed. Crowsus (talk) 21:18, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

This is too messy, it's probably better to try WP:RM/T. GiantSnowman 08:32, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry

This right here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Plizarri), open-and-shut case regarding the title of this message; the editing in Portuguese football(ers; but only the famous ones), the obsession with, among others, Viktor Gyökeres, the aggressiveness in their reply to you.

New sock of User:SukunaZenin/User:Pinzunski. You have been briefed. RevampedEditor (talk) 15:21, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

 Done - see Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of Pinzunski as I think that is the original account, based on chronology? GiantSnowman 19:39, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

Nahki Wells

I would agree, broadly, that announcing an extension was relevant to an encyclopedia and standard for footballers, but "On 17 May 2025, the club said it was in contract negotiations with the player." is episodic information that will certainly change with time, depending on the outcome of those negotiations. So only the outcome belongs in an encyclopedia article. The fact of the negotiation, which is transitory by nature, falls under the "News reports" section of WP:NOTNEWS. Anwegmann (talk) 18:41, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

It's relevant as this will result in him either staying or leaving the club, and is therefore worth including. GiantSnowman 18:43, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Request to Unblock

Enjoy a great vacation. The Man Sayem Molla The Greatest was blocked by you over what you thought non-compliance with Wikipedia regulations. He changed some accounts name. He was not warned enough to directly get blocked. See, till 2019, FIFA Club World Cup (FCWC) took place in the same calendar year (CY) as mentioned in competition name. Due to COVID, the 2020, 2021, 2022 FCWC took place in CY 2021, 2022, 2023 respectively, but did we call that according to CY, of course no, but in fact according to FIFA-promoted competition name. Then the 2023 FCWC took place in CY 2023. So, you could say CY 2023 featured 2 FCWC, one titled 2022, one 2023. Now, the same with Supercopa De España (ScE), Supercoppa Italiana (ScI), till 2018, the ScE took place in early-August normally. Like 2017-18 La Liga and Copa Del Rey winners played in early-August, CY 2018 in the competition titled 2018 ScE. But, then the Saudi deals arrived. 2018-19 La Liga and Copa Del Rey tops were supposed to play in August, CY 2019 as competition titled 2019 ScE but due to the Saudi deals, they played the 2019 ScE in early CY 2020 during the Riyadh Season of Saudi Arabia. Considering the deal is supposed to stay till CY 2029, you'll see 2027-28 La Liga and Copa Del Rey tops playing in ScE early CY 2029 and then after the deal ends, the 2028-29 La Liga and Copa Del Rey tops playing in ScE in August of same CY 2029. They can even play ScE in December, 2029 to add one more ScE in the running Saudi deal. Now, for that reason, we need to say the early CY 2029 one as 2028 ScE and then from the August 2029 or potentially December, 2029 one, the CY and competition title again matches just like it did till 2018, calling it 2029 ScE. Now, for ScI, the 2022-23 Serie A and Coppa Italia tops played in early CY 2024 under Saudi deal, and in the sense of my already said statement, editors kept the name 2023. Then, 2023-24 Serie A and Coppa Italia tops played in early CY 2025 and some editors getting confused from Transfermarkt, titled the competition as 2024-25. Now, what Transfermarkt does is writing the season name in their website, most UEFA Members use inter-year club season just like UEFA itself does for continental competitions, so it always writes the season name, you can see UEFA heavily promoting the 2024 UEFA Super Cup as 2024 UEFA Super Cup, not 2024-25, FIFA heavily promoting 2024 FIFA Intercontinental Cup as 2024 FIFA Intercontinental Cup, not 2024-25, but Transfermarkt still writing them as 2024-25. When European clubs are engaging and winning, the competition titles are written as inter-year in Transfermarkt even if they are promoted carrying a single year in the name; in CONMEBOL which use intra-year format, the competitions are written as intra-year. So, due to the new scheduling nature of the ScI, editors used the inter-year name here seeing it in Transfermarkt, I renamed it in the same sense I mentioned in ScE. My intention in renaming the articles was to ensure consistency with officially promoted titles and Wikipedia’s past naming practices, not to violate any guidelines or cause disruption. But, what I received in exchange of my positive attempts to correct the titles is getting blocked. I have learnt the appropriate ways to rename articles. I'm always open to discussions with other editors. I hope that reading my application, you will unblock me. The Greatest Sayem Molla The Man (talk) 20:09, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

Hello. You can also see the RFEF heavily promoting the tournament played in January 2025 as the 2025 Supercopa de España, and that is the accepted consensus here. I would actually support it being called the 2024–25 Supercopa de España to prevent these kind of arguments, but the favoured option among editors here is for it to reflect what the official source says, and since the Supercopa became a 4-team tournament, that has been to have it named after the calendar year in which it was held (regardless of any initial planning for it to be played at the start of the season). The situation here is actually more straightforward than the Italian version. Crowsus (talk) 22:12, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

If you want to request an unblock, please stop creating new accounts to evade your block, and log into your original account and follow WP:UNBLOCK. GiantSnowman 10:29, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Fiachra Pagel

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Thank you! GiantSnowman 10:38, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

Davide Astori

Why are you gatekeeping Davide Astori article and preventing adding any sourced, detailed and important information regarding his death ? Yerachmiel C (talk) 15:26, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

See WP:UNDUE, WP:REFBOMB, WP:LEDEREF... GiantSnowman 15:49, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

Date audit help

When you have a moment, please date audit List of members of the IIHF Hall of Fame for DMY. Thanks. Flibirigit (talk) 18:26, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

Why would American players on that list be DMY? GiantSnowman 18:27, 28 May 2025 (UTC)

The IIHF is an international organization. It uses DMY. IIHF articles are all written with DMY. For clarity, I am only asking for the list itself to be audited, not every biography on the list. Flibirigit (talk) 01:56, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying -  Done. GiantSnowman 18:11, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

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Exaucé Mafoumbi

I noticed that we both have drafts for Exaucé Mafoumbi, but mine precedes yours. I have moved mine to Draft:Exaucé Mafoumbi. Just letting you know. Lucfev (talk) 19:28, 6 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks - I have deleted mine. Usually I would merge but there's too much parallel history here. GiantSnowman 09:58, 7 June 2025 (UTC)

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Sockpuppetry

User:Pinzunski, new one (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/FastFoodLukaku, boy is this easy!). I could be wrong, but i highly doubt it given their chosen field of editing.

Attentively RevampedEditor (talk) 17:50, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

Blocked, thanks! GiantSnowman 18:04, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

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Sockpuppetry

And of course User:Pinzunski has another one, User:Labirinto23!! No Viktor Gyökeres in the list of "contributions" still, amazingly. But it's them 300% for sure.

Attentively RevampedEditor (talk) 14:26, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

 Done. GiantSnowman 14:28, 14 June 2025 (UTC)

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June 2025

I am utterly bewildered both by your message and by your decision to add a load of personal insults to the edit line of Kenny McLean, which actually seem in contradiction to each other. You claim my edit was not neutral and had been removed, when in fact you had kept at least half of it. I would like you to explain exactly what you objected to and why you consider it not neutral. Everything I included was factual and backed up by quoted sources. Skteosk (talk) 16:28, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

No, I removed more than half - it was full of POV (that he "remained a regular") and inappropriate language ("Ironically, his second return to the side would come on 29 December in the return match against Queens Park Rangers"). GiantSnowman 17:40, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

You removed 1,628 characters from a 2,786 character edit. Technically more than half, but still a lot left.

How is "he remained a regular" POV? Either someone plays the majority of games or they don't, and if they do, that makes them a regular. As noted in the edit, he played every game when he wasn't suspended or ill.

"Inappropriate language": Well, I suppose that's subjective and I can't argue with it. The fact is the first game he was available with after his suspension was against the same opponents that he had been sent off against. You apparently don't feel the need to mention this. I suppose that's fair enough.

Fact: He is now Norwich's captain. He was already captain for much of the previous season since the club captain was mostly absent. Do you not consider this worth mentioning?

Fact: He was absent from four games because of a chest infection. I included a source that mentioned this. Perhaps I could have included more. Do you not consider this worth mentioning?

Fact: He played in 34 of the 46 league games and all three cup games, missing only the eight games through suspension and the four games for reasons above. You could argue that this is already covered in statistics elsewhere. I felt it provided a completeness to the section, which is now left on a rather incomplete note that he was suspended back in November with no mention of the months since.

You appear to have taken custodianship of this page, which is laudable. But maintaining a worthwhile page requires more than adding to an appearance list every few days. To be blunt, the section is a mess, with no real attempt to chart the progression of his career, and an appearance of having been compiled from Google hits, with out of context quotes from random interviews. I was attempting to redress the balance by providing what I felt was an informative account of his last season. I would be grateful if you would be willing to co-operate with me on this, rather than dismissing it as "nonsense". Skteosk (talk) 17:54, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

We are an encyclopaedia, not a sports almanac. All additions needs to be properly sourced, properly worded, and non-trivial. I have kept what is worth keeping, although no issues with re-adding the number of games he played in the season. GiantSnowman 18:00, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

Why is him being captain not worth keeping? Why is him missing four games through illness not worth keeping? Why is a messy paragraph consisting largely of utter trivia ("In November 2023, he defended manager David Wagner after the team took one point from a possible 18.[50] In January 2024 he said he wanted to improve his goal record.[51] In February 2024 he was credited with helping the club's turn around in results.[52]") deserving of your approval and not something I took time and effort writing and sourcing? Skteosk (talk) 18:07, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

Get a source that says 'McLean was appointed captain' etc. - and the 'messy' paragraph you refer to has each point dedicated to in-depth media coverage about those elements. GiantSnowman 18:24, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

So, you don't object to the information being included, you just object to it being unsourced? I can work with that.

My previous edit included the following source on his absence through illness. I can provide more if necessary. Him being captain is tricky because it just sorted of happened: He was already captaining the side in the majority of games since Grant Hanley had only started seven games in two seasons and just continued after Hanley left the club. I can provide sources referring to him as captain if that is acceptable. I included the following sources for his returns from his two suspensions, the latter one at least seems valid if I provide a more neutral way of putting it. Skteosk (talk) 18:57, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

The Pinkun source looks fine - the others are trivial. GiantSnowman 20:31, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for the feedback. I will try and get a rewrite done later tonight. Should I send it to you first to look over or just go ahead and post it? Skteosk (talk) 21:16, 17 June 2025 (UTC)

No, WP:BEBOLD and post it - we can then work out the final version if needed. GiantSnowman 17:40, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

References

Regarding comment left on my page

Hello, I just wanted to respond quickly to this comment left on my talk page:

"You've made the same error at Josh Grant (footballer). This is basic stuff. WP:CIR - next time you'll get blocked" with respect to me not updating the 'club-update' column of the page when updating the career statistics for that page.

First and foremost, I have corrected said error and will always be happy to amend any such minor oversights once pointed out to me. However, I wish to raise an issue with your threat to block me under WP:CIR and believe that in doing this you would be in contravention of WP:RRULE. My reasons for this are as follows:

- Looking at the dates of your comments regarding this on my page, the first two were when I was a relatively new wikipedia editor (most likely classified as a beginner under WP:LEVCOMP). The third was a one off error in September 2023, now the fourth has happened in June 2025. I have made numerous edits in the space of the 21 months between the third and fourth comment which have correctly amended the club-update column. I do not believe that making a minor error twice in this space of time would ever be considered reasonable evidence of 'incompetence' with regards to editing by an objective third person.

- As I have alluded to so far, the error at play here is a small metadata issue which is incredibly easy to rectify. As I'm sure you're aware as you seem to be the designated moderator for the area, I largely work with articles relating to non-league football. Many of these articles are noticably out of date. Less commonly but still prevalently, their content will be outright erroneous and omissive. The information I introduce to these articles, particularly with regards to the statistics which is where your issue lies, serves to correct these issues and is always properly sourced and correct as of time of editing. Do you believe that an objective third party would see making an occasional error such as forgetting to update a small 'accurate as of...' section as "deliberately introducing incorrect information about living people" as you once stated on my page, or would they alternatively see it as improvements being made to pages which needed to be brought up to date, with a minor omission in one small section that can be easily rectified. To quote WP:CIR: "[competence is required] does not mean perfection is required. Articles can be improved in small steps, rather than being made perfect in one fell swoop. Small improvements are our bread and butter."

I will always appreciate any feedback and I'll take care to ensure that such minor oversights do not happen again. With that said, I believe that the threat of a block for a first metadata error in 21 months is unreasonable and disproportionate, especially when the actual data I am adding is correct, properly sourced and necessary to improve outdated articles.

Thank you - Wld85 (talk) 00:35, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

You have been repeatedly asked to comply with basic editing requirements (i.e. dating your updates), and you have repeatedly failed to do that. Why? GiantSnowman 17:41, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

It's a minor oversight that I have always swiftly corrected once pointed out to me. I'd reject the idea that doing it twice in 21 months is some kind of 'repeated' failure to comply with editing requirements.

A quick bit of research would indicate that you are under an indefinite editing restriction placed by the Arbitration Committee, with overuse of blocking functions cited as a reason for admonishment. Do you think that banning or threatening to ban wikipedia editors for minor oversights in metadata when updating articles may have contributed to this? Wld85 (talk) 18:09, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

This is the 4th time I have had to remind you! GiantSnowman 18:14, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

As I have said, the first two were when I was new to editing, and there has been a 21 month gap between the other two! It's hardly an egregious mistake to make, it is quite literally forgetting to change a small bit of metadata. I refer you once again to Wikipedia:Editing restrictions/Placed by the Arbitration Committee and WP:RRULE Wld85 (talk) 18:18, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

What point are you trying to make here? You made an error, as you have admitted, and I reverted and warned you. GiantSnowman 18:21, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

That threatening to block me from editing for a minor error (the first in 21 months) is unreasonable, especially in the light of your editing restriction Wld85 (talk) 18:26, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

As is entirely standard and appropriate, over time I have sent you a series of escalating warnings for your continued and repeated disruption and errors. My editing restriction has nothing to do with this. GiantSnowman 18:27, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

I'd argue that seeing as it cited your overuse of blocking function it's completely relevant. This won't go anywhere so I'll say no more and ensure that metadata is always correctly updated, I'd suggest you ensure that you consider WP:RRULE and your previous citations of misuse of blocking functions when dealing with this sort of thing.

Best - Wld85 (talk) 18:35, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

All you had to say was "sorry, I'll edit properly in future". GiantSnowman 20:51, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

Just thought I'd be helpful and remind you of your position as per Wikipedia:Editing restrictions/Placed by the Arbitration Committee Wld85 (talk) 23:39, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

I'm well aware of my restrictions, thank you - but I thought you said you would "say no more"...??? GiantSnowman 17:55, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

Gastón Sauro

Glad to see you are improving Gastón Sauro. Awful revert in my opinion. Is there something that made it seem like a “test”? Is all the info on the FC Basel relevant to the player? Cheers Ewyourfaceew (talk) 04:35, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

Adding a primary and a secondary source to a majority of what I put isn’t enough? Because I forgot to put a source for his first professional goal, you revert the entire edit, rather than ? I am okay with leaving that he currently still plays for his club team, but everything else except for what I noted above was properly sourced. Ewyourfaceew (talk) 11:14, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

Your formatting was bogus, as was adding a reference to the beginning of the article with no ref tags. I would have no issues with the Basel section being trimmed. GiantSnowman 17:41, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

So you remove the entirety of what I put, instead of yourself trying to improve it/add to what I’ve put? At least I added things, you are completely removing sourced material for what reason? Pretty sure Wikipedia is a collaborative effort. Sorry for adding and improving the article! Please let me know exactly what was wrong with it other than the two things that you stated (which can be fixed by adding . Just bogus. Ewyourfaceew (talk) 20:17, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

It was poorly written, unsourced content about a BLP. Tagging with {{cn}} is entirely inadequate. GiantSnowman 20:52, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

So you remove EVERYTHING I wrote instead of that one portion because…? I guess you didn’t even read anything or check any of my other sources. You are just a bot who sees one error and removes every edit. Is that right? Or am I wrong? Please enlighten me because I would love to work on gaston sauro, but if it’s your article, then I do not want to touch it at all, for fears of messing with you and your baby. Thanks! Ewyourfaceew (talk) 21:00, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

No, I saw lots and lots and lots of errors and therefore, overall, it was not even nearly a constructive edit. If you want to add content (with sources!) then I suggest you post on the article talk page and we can discuss further. GiantSnowman 21:01, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

Don’t worry, I’ll leave your baby alone. Sorry for trying to make Wikipedia better! Ewyourfaceew (talk) 21:03, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

Cool, good attitude to have! GiantSnowman 21:08, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

I think it’s even better removing entire sourced sections rather than collaborating with each other. If it’s written poorly, I’m sure it wouldn’t take more than 5 minutes to reword it, and hey! all your sources would’ve been there! But I guess it’s quicker to revert and tag talk pages. But you do you. Should I make edits in all talk pages, and tag you every time to make sure it’s okay? Should I run it thorough chatGPT? Would that make it written better? Please help me!!! I am so helpless! I’m begging, pleading! I’m 100% serious I need your help! Ewyourfaceew (talk) 21:16, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

Grow up. I've added back the few sources that look half-decent, and spent the time cleaning up your wording. GiantSnowman 21:18, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

THANK YOU! That is literally all that I wanted, like I said, I don't care if i get "credit" for the addition, but I am glad it is there. Thanks. Ewyourfaceew (talk) 21:20, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

A good solution to the problem of getting a slew of changes reverted in one go, Ewyourfaceew, is making the changes in smaller chunks. It makes sense, for example, to have separate edits for a) minor changes like typo fixes and grammar corrections b) major changes, which themselves can be split depending on which section they go into. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 22:25, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

Good advice. GiantSnowman 17:55, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

Brooke Norton-Cuffy page

Concerns Regarding Heritage Information and Terminology

I would like to raise concerns about inaccuracies in the article regarding Brooke's heritage. The current content includes both incorrect and potentially misleading information.

To clarify: Brooke is of Guyanese and Dominican heritage, through his maternal and paternal grandparents. The article should be updated to reflect this in order to maintain biographical accuracy.

Additionally, the current use of "Dominica" in the text is incorrect in this context. While Dominica is a country, the correct demonym (nationality) is "Dominican". This distinction is important for clarity and accuracy.

I have attempted to make these corrections several times, providing clear and constructive explanations in the edit summaries. However, my edits have been reverted, and I’ve since been accused of vandalism despite engaging in good faith.

I’m raising this here to invite discussion and consensus so the article can be improved in line with Wikipedia’s standards on verifiability and neutral point of view.

Thank you. Crescentsista (talk) 09:02, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

We are happy to update the article - but Wikipedia relies on reliable sources to verify information, especially about living people. Do you have any sources to verify this? Newspaper article etc.? GiantSnowman 17:56, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

Concerns Regarding Inaccurate Biographical Details

I’d like to raise concerns about the accuracy of some of the other biographical details currently listed in this article.

For example, the article states that Brooke was born in Pimlico. This is incorrect — he was actually born at Queen Charlotte's Hospital, which is located in the London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham and we

were living in Maida Vale at

the time. Our family did not move to Pimlico until 2012 when Brooke was 8 years old.

This is unimportant so I am not requesting this be changed but it casts doubt on the reliability of the sources being used to support his page.

I understand that Wikipedia relies on verifiable sources, but when the existing source is inaccurate, there should be room for correction — especially when offered by a direct family member. If required, I am willing to provide proof of my relationship to Brooke in order to verify this information.

I hope we can work together to ensure the article reflects accurate and properly sourced information.

Thank you. Crescentsista (talk) 18:13, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

Again - please provide sources and we can update the article. I suggest you post them at Talk:Brooke Norton-Cuffy for wider community input. GiantSnowman 18:17, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

Request for Clarification on Verification and Inaccurate Source

I’ve already asked what kind of sources you would like me to provide. As Brooke’s mother, I’m happy to offer verification of my relationship if that is necessary to make factual corrections.

The source currently cited in the article contains misleading information, including the use of the Dominican flag as his nationality, which incorrectly suggests Brooke holds dual nationality. He does not. I have contacted the website directly to request that this error be corrected.

I would appreciate guidance on how best to proceed in updating the article to ensure it reflects accurate, verifiable information.

Thank you. Crescentsista (talk) 20:55, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

And I have already said, we need reliable sources such as reputable newspaper articles. As his mother you should not be editing his article, see [[[WP:COI]]. GiantSnowman 20:59, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

I’m not attempting to edit the article myself, as I understand and respect Wikipedia’s conflict of interest guidelines. Instead, I’m reaching out here in good faith to work with editors collaboratively to ensure the information presented is accurate and properly sourced.

That said, I find it frustrating that my concerns are being met with resistance. I’ve clearly explained how and why the current entry is inaccurate and potentially misleading. The source being cited contains factual errors, and relying on it without question undermines the accuracy of the article.

I’m asking in good faith for these points to be reconsidered so that we can work together to improve the quality of the content. Crescentsista (talk) 13:29, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

We need a reliable source to show he is of Guayanese descent - whilst I acknowledge the source used for Dominica is misleading in suggesting he is a dual national, our Wikipedia does not make such a claim. GiantSnowman 08:33, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

Here's a reliable source for this achievement which isn't on his page; in 2022 he was awarded Arsenal Scholas os the year.

https://arseblog.news/2022/05/scholar-of-the-year-norton-cuffy-set-for-big-pre-season/ Crescentsista (talk) 13:25, 21 June 2025 (UTC)

That is a blog, not a reliable source. GiantSnowman 08:06, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Yet, the information is factually accurate. Proving my point about discrepancies in the way Wikipedia sources information.

Here's a newspaper article citing the same.

https://thelincolnite.co.uk/2022/06/brooke-norton-cuffy-named-in-england-under-19s-euros-squad-after-imp-ressive-loan-spell/ Crescentsista (talk) 09:53, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

I have updated the article. GiantSnowman 10:07, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Please find link to which I confirm as factually correct articles which correctly cite that Brooke joined Arsenal from Chelsea at the age of 10 not 12 as cited on Wikipedia.

Thanks for your cooperation.

https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/brooke-norton-cuffy-arsenal-wonderkid-wing-back-europe-best/blt019f40fa7d52a27f

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/19795849/arsenal-brooke-norton-cuffy-england/amp/ Crescentsista (talk) 13:04, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

The Sun is not a reliable source - but have updated using Goal. GiantSnowman 13:05, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for your cooperation. Crescentsista (talk) 13:06, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for making the change to the entry — I really appreciate your time and willingness to help ensure the information is accurate. I'm grateful for your support and for handling the update so promptly.

Best regards Crescentsista (talk) 15:01, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

I am a direct and primary source of this information. It's not uncommon for newspaper articles or websites—such as Sport.de—to contain inaccurate or misleading details, as is the case here.

Firsthand information, especially when supported with verifiable documentation, should be considered when correcting factual errors. Crescentsista (talk) 20:59, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

Please see WP:AUTOBIO and WP:COI. GiantSnowman 21:00, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

Dispute notification

This is a notification about an editing dispute on which you have commented. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:17, 19 June 2025 (UTC)

Completely worthless edits

Why do you make completely worthless edits such as this one - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Howard_Staunton&curid=151387&diff=1296788670&oldid=1288747469?

That did absolutely nothing to improve the encyclopedia. Churning articles that way makes those pointless changes show up for people monitoring watchlists and just causes extra work for others for no benefit.

In fact, your edit messed up alignment of template parameters. What made you think that your edit

{{cite magazine
 | author=Murray, H.J.R. | author-link=H. J. R. Murray
 | date=November 1908
 | title=Howard Staunton: Part I
 | magazine=British Chess Magazine
 | url=http://sbchess.sinfree.net/Staunton_BCM.html
 | access-date=19 June 2008
| archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20071208141521/http://sbchess.sinfree.net/Staunton_BCM.html
 | archive-date=8 December 2007
}}

is better than the text that was there previously

{{cite magazine
 | author=Murray, H.J.R. | author-link=H. J. R. Murray
 | date=November 1908
 | title=Howard Staunton: Part I
 | magazine=British Chess Magazine
 | url=http://sbchess.sinfree.net/Staunton_BCM.html
 | access-date=19 June 2008
 | archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20071208141521/http://sbchess.sinfree.net/Staunton_BCM.html
 | archive-date=8 December 2007
}}

Please don't do that. Quale (talk) 14:41, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

It's not worthless at all - I was auditing the article and updating the {{Use dmy dates}} template accordingly. GiantSnowman 14:47, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

Redlinked categories

The current run of Special:WantedCategories featured 172 redlinked categories to get through. So it's not my job to spend five minutes on each category to investigate every possible permutation of "was this just a mistyped or misphrased version of a category that exists at another name" — if I spend five minutes on each individual category, then I can only get through 12 categories in an hour, thus turning it into a 14-hour job to get all 172 redlinks cleaned up. And 172 categories is actually fairly low for that sort of thing — the report much more often has around 250 redlinked categories on it, which would take 20 hours to clean up if I had to approach them at a "spend five minutes researching each category and thus get through only 12 categories per hour" rate.

That's not an expectation anybody has any right to place on me, however.

I mean, sure, there are some circumstances where the process will basically tell me that the category exists at another name. Like, I'll see an edit history that shows a past move of the category, or there will be a "did you mean [Plural]?" alert when I'm on the category page because somebody filed a page in a singular version of a pluralized category name, or a simple obvious typo will jump out like the one I just fixed a few minutes ago where somebody had typed "Candian" instead of "Canadian". So in those cases, obviously I can just correct the category — but if the system and/or a simple typo hasn't already told me that the category exists at a different name, then it is not my responsibility to invest extra time into investigating whether the category exists at another name that hasn't already been handed to me. It's your job to use the correctly named category in the first place, not my job to devote 14 to 20 hours into extended investigations of every individual redlink on a report with hundreds of redlinks on it. Bearcat (talk) 15:21, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

If it's a football (soccer)-related category, feel free to ask me - I'll no doubt be able to sort it out. GiantSnowman 15:22, 22 June 2025 (UTC)

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Draft:Andrew Oluwabori

I've made some updates to this page which may now mean that WP:GNG is met. OGLV (talk) 18:05, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Agreed - would be good to get something about his name change.. GiantSnowman 18:09, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

Mark Redshaw, Nicky Spooner and Matt Barrass (footballer, born 1980)

I replied to your message yesterday, saw you'd been online again but not respdonded - I'd like to crack on really so would appreciate taking you up on the kind offer for helping with any questions.

Are we happy with these as reliable sources?

• Nicky Spooner - https://www.thefootballarchives.com/network/player.php?ID=56690
• Mark Redshaw - https://www.thefootballarchives.com/network/player.php?ID=101782
• Matt Barrass - https://www.thefootballarchives.com/network/player.php?ID=65785

Failing that - here's Nicky Spooner's initial signing which did indeed turn permanent - you can at least see he's still playing in November with this report.

Mark Redshaw's signing is captured here and referenced here.

Appearance and goal numbers are otherwise in the official club paper records - I can supply photos, advice on how to reference would be aprpeciated... detail on 05-06 (and Matt Barrass) I've uploaded here for example. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Razzlewis (talk • contribs) 06:17, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

I have no idea if TheFootballArchives is a RS - please ask at WT:FOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 17:44, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Have taken a look about and it looks to be in regular use so I'm assuming WP:BEBOLD... examples seen below.

• Billy Telford
• 2001–02 Football Conference
• Brian Mundee
• Jim Kabia
• 1990–91 Northern Premier League
• Chris Moyses
• Kevin Brock (footballer)

Razzlewis (talk) 21:26, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

No, it's a case of WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. People use Transfermarkt constantly, yet WP:TRANSFERMARKT applies... GiantSnowman 18:02, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

Craig Dawson

I actually have another question as I've spotted what I believe to be an error in a journalist transcribing an interview. Craig Dawson is noted as having gone on loan to Clipstone F.C. in Nottinghamshire and that is referenced twice. However, he actually went on loan to Flixton F.C. who are closer to where he was based at the time in Manchester.

There are references for this at;

• https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/football/1917047.dawson-tipped-for-the-top-by-flynn/
• https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/football/2133149.big-stage-awaits-young-boro-ace/
• https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/other-sport/amazing-reverse-by-borough-boys-1005752

I obviously don't want to steam in and change things that are sourced, but I know this to be an error and think it's an understandable one with how close Flixton/Clipstone could sound in the right circumstances.

What should I do to otherwise flag the error to get things corrected? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Razzlewis (talk • contribs) 12:38, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

WP:BEBOLD and make the change... GiantSnowman 17:45, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

Pronunciación española

¿Cuál es tu problema? Hay transcripciones fonéticas en todas partes de la Wikipedia. No es necesario poner una referencia porque hay millones (a menos) usuarios que hablan los idiomas en cuestión. Y cada uno de estos usuarios es una fuente. He escrito muchos transcripciones fonéticas en la Wikipedia, y nunca ha sido un problema. ¿También exiges una referencia para cada palabra que escribo en un artículo, para que todo el mundo sepa qué significa? Kelisi (talk) 16:07, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

WP:ENGLISHPLEASE. Given your user page says you are a native English speaker, see also WP:TROLL. GiantSnowman 16:13, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

I wrote that in Spanish to make a point. I know the language. Your user page doesn't give the slightest hint that you know any language but English. Given that, how do you know that "[fɾanˈθisko ˈpako ˈpeɾeθ ðuˈɾan]" is wrong? I happen to know that it is right. GS, we don't reference pronunciations here on WP. We know that plenty of English-speaking Wikipedians know other languages. I myself also speak French and German. English speakers can learn other languages, even if that isn't common where you live. Why don't you just reinsert the pronunciation? I can't because that would be the third revert in one day.

You are also way out of line calling me a troll! The information that I put in the Paco Pérez Durán article was accurate. Instead of deleting it, why don't you ask a Spaniard if I got it right if you will only trust native speakers? Kelisi (talk) 16:29, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

One other thing: Your summary "stop adding unsourced content to BLPs" is a bit of a poser, as the Paco Pérez Durán article is not a BLP. Kelisi (talk) 16:34, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

See WP:POINT - not showering yourself in glory today are you?

Where is the source? You, 'someone on the internet', saying "I speak Spanish, trust me" is not nearly sufficient and you have been here long enough to know that. WP:RS, WP:V.

Ditto with BLP - see WP:BDP for the info re:recently deceased people.

Your inability to grasp basic policies is really concerning, as is your implied threat to re-commence edit warring tomorrow... GiantSnowman 17:19, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

Let's see if you can grasp this basic policy: All Spanish pronunciations are self-sourcing. If you know the correct spelling, there can only ever be one correct pronunciation. Spanish writing is much more consistent than English that way. Perhaps if you only speak English, that's a bit of an alien concept, but Spanish orthography always makes clear what the sequence of sounds is, and  – get this – even makes clear which syllables to stress. Anyone can learn it, even without knowing Spanish.

And by the way, yes, it really is a policy. The Spanish language is governed by the Real Academia Española, and you can be sure that that is pronounced "[reˈal akaˈðemja espaˈɲola]" — just from the way it's spelt. It is silly to say that Spanish pronunciations are "unsourced", as the spelling itself is a source. I only put these pronunciations for people who, like you, don't know Spanish. Kelisi (talk) 20:14, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

So people in Catalonia pronounce words exactly the same as people in Madrid, Valencia etc. etc.??? GiantSnowman 17:41, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

Oh dear. Someone better delete Spanish dialects and varieties#Pronunciation. It must be very wrong. DeCausa (talk) 17:49, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

I'd also like the "policy" on Wikipedia that says "All Spanish pronunciations are self-sourcing"... GiantSnowman 17:51, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

For Spaniards, we use Central Spain pronunciation as a general rule, whatever part of the country somebody is from. For Latin Americans, there are only slight differences, mainly involving the substitution of [s] for [θ], although there are others. By the way, we are allowed to include two (or even more) pronunciation variants if the context makes it necessary. In any case, though, the pronunciation is obvious from the spelling.

Do you know what I'd like to see? I'd like you to come up with as many as five phonetic transcriptions anywhere on WP that are sourced. I've seen hundreds of transcriptions at least, and I can't remember seeing one that was sourced. Kelisi (talk) 07:23, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

Who is the we when you say that you use Central Spain for all pronunciations, regardless of location?

And saying 'other IPA are unsourced' is not an argument, especially when there are sourced ones out there - e.g. Viktor Gyökeres. GiantSnowman 17:48, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

I add sourcing where I can eg here. I didn't realise I was wasting my time...DeCausa (talk) 18:58, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

Yes, apparently Wikipedia's rules on verifiability is now "everything must be sourced, except how to pronounce names". GiantSnowman 20:49, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

As far as I can tell this cropped up at Paco Pérez Durán. Apparently, you were a "pest" for reverting this edit. So, Kelisi wanted to render Durán's given name in IPA as fɾanˈθisko. As a cordobés, Durán presumably used a seseo pronunciation, which would, I think, be fɾanˈsisko rather than fɾanˈθisko. But I guess that's irrelevant if there is a rock solid policy that we use the pronunciation of "Central Spain" regardless of where the subject came from. Where is that stated? DeCausa (talk) 21:48, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

Yes, it did crop up there, and as for where it's stated, that would seem to be in common practice if anywhere. It just seems to me that WP users follow such a rule, even if it's unwritten. As I said earlier, though, there is nothing stopping anybody from putting two pronunciations, and it is done often enough. Kelisi (talk) 02:53, 3 July 2025 (UTC)

Kelisi, please answer our questions - where is the "policy" on Wikipedia that says "All Spanish pronunciations are self-sourcing", and where is the rule that "For Spaniards, we use Central Spain pronunciation"? GiantSnowman 16:16, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

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Munir Mohamedi

As wiki-dangerous as it gets now, i am fighting the battle alone against accounts/IPs (can't prove if just one person or several)! Now, an IP has upped the ante removing a reference at the end of a paragraph (in late club career) to reinstate their preferred version. I have already reported this to your fellow admin User:Drmies, who originally protected the page; IP as incompetent as they come, removes refs then gets offended for being called a vandal!!

Maybe i have already been reverted as i write these lines... Attentively RevampedEditor (talk) 20:04, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

• It continues, now they "allow" source to stay but they just have to have "marking an historic double" written in paragraph. They do it just to enhance Mr. Mohamedi's page word-wise, or the club's! Been here for 19 years, seen it done thousands of times to not recognise the pattern. --RevampedEditor (talk) 20:24, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

  For clear vandalism - like removing sourced content - revert and warn. Anything else is a contender dispute which should be resolved on the talk page. GiantSnowman 20:39, 30 June 2025 (UTC)

Redlinked categories

It is not my job to go around "asking" other people for extra help with redlinked categories either. As I mentioned previously, each run of Special:WantedCategories features over 200 redlinked categories — today's run featured 253 — meaning that if I spend five to ten minutes on each individual category, thus getting through the list at a rate of just six to twelve pages per hour, then it will take me 20 to 40 hours to clean up the entire list.

And I can't treat soccer-related redlinks differently than I treat non-soccer-related redlinks, either. The job of redlinked category cleanup is to clean the list up as quickly as possible and move on, not to spend two full days going around asking people about every category in the list — but if I put special time into your categories, then I also have to give the same courtesy to everybody else, and then I'm spending two full days on the task. And since the report then refreshes with new redlinked categories on Day 3, that would leave me with absolutely no time left to do anything else at all. So no, you do not get to demand that I expend special amounts of time and effort only on categories in your area of expertise — if I'm not devoting 20, 30 or 40 hours a pop to doing the same thing for everybody else, then I don't owe soccer-related redlinked categories special indulgences that all the other redlinked categories aren't getting.

If it's that important to you, then by all means feel free to work on the redlinked category report yourself to either create or fix all the soccer-related redlinks before I even see them — but if you're not prepared to commit to doing that, then it's not my responsibility to single out soccer-related redlinks for special treatment that I don't have the time to give to every other non-soccer redlink as well. Bearcat (talk) 17:29, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

Correcting a typo in a category is a much better use of time than removing. I cannot see in what world it would take 10 minutes to go on the page, see 'F.C.' in the red category, and then notify me. There are only a handful a day. GiantSnowman 18:19, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

Hello!

This isnt about the ANI or anything, but it says in your userbox that you are against monarchy, and guess what, im the leader of a micronation (and im a monarch) I respect your opinion, but Monarchies realistically do last longer than socialist unions (the USSR for an example) the United Kingdom has lasted 300 years, while the USSR, the Hungarian Socialist Republic, etc lasted like from around a year all the way to 87 years or something. Shaneapickle (talk) 17:19, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

OK good luck with that! GiantSnowman 17:22, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

i was just telling you my opinion why i think that socialism is a failed system Shaneapickle (talk) 17:23, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

Save it for the forums, thanks. GiantSnowman 17:24, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

Just curiosity

Just curiosity, this, but I was wondering what is the purpose of an edit like this[3]? ThoughtIdRetired _TIR 22:23, 6 July 2025 (UTC)

It's as per the template documentation - confirming the last time the article was audited for date format/consistency. GiantSnowman 17:42, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:48, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

Fisayo Dele-Bashiru

Hi there, the source is already in the article - "The clause in his contract was confirmed to be activated - for a figure of €5.4 million - in the club's half-yearly report released in March 2025" etc. The financial statement linked on the page that is cited there looked legitimate to me. Thanks.

Geregen2 (talk) 17:58, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

Thanks - it would be helpful if you used edit summaries to confirm that... GiantSnowman 18:00, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

Invasive Species Specialist Group

In 2028, you deleted Invasive Species Specialist Group because of "G8: Page dependent on a deleted or nonexistent page" Several articles still have links to that page, so I think it might be notable. See also https://www.eea.europa.eu/data-and-maps/data-providers-and-partners/invasive-species-specialist-group-issg Could you please restore that page and the one it was dependent on, to draftspace or userspace if that would be more appropriate? Eastmain (talk • contribs) 07:32, 12 July 2025 (UTC)

 Done. GiantSnowman 12:30, 12 July 2025 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 29, 2025)

Hello, GiantSnowman. The article for improvement of the week is: Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Musician • Magnesium Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 14 July 2025 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI •

Reverting

I don't understand why adding a flag next to the country name is wrong. Can you explain? Thanks. --Like the windows (talk) 09:36, 17 July 2025 (UTC)

WP:MOSFLAG. GiantSnowman 18:09, 17 July 2025 (UTC)

No problem, I really just use the Bulgarian Wikipedia, so I don't know a whole lot of stuff about this one. --Like the windows (talk) 20:03, 17 July 2025 (UTC)

That's OK - if you have any more questions or queries please ask me! GiantSnowman 20:04, 17 July 2025 (UTC)

Nomination of Nyron Dyer for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Nyron Dyer is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nyron Dyer until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

Geschichte (talk) 06:15, 19 July 2025 (UTC)

formatting on steve ingle

hi, is there something wrong that i can fix on https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Steve_Ingle&oldid=prev&diff=1301378349 this edit add author to the reference and the formatting is taken from cite web template Lokiretro (talk) 13:42, 19 July 2025 (UTC)

What are you trying to do? Add the author? GiantSnowman 13:52, 19 July 2025 (UTC)

yes Lokiretro (talk) 14:23, 19 July 2025 (UTC)

Simply do it like this, rather than whatever you were trying to do. GiantSnowman 14:25, 19 July 2025 (UTC)

i do it with vertical format for easier inspection. but if you want my edit on horizontal format i can do it. just give me heads up Lokiretro (talk) 14:38, 19 July 2025 (UTC)

Vertical formatting is disruptive. GiantSnowman 14:39, 19 July 2025 (UTC)

Question about club statistics

Hello, quick question about something I've been contemplating and which isn't really commonly seen, hence why it hasn't really been resolved anywhere (as far as I know).

When a player was loaned out to a club, then he joins the same club on a permanent deal within the same season, should the season cell be across two rows as it is at Arthur Theate, or separate as it is at Kayky. Then we also have Antoine Griezmann's case, which is done within a single row.

I feel like we should have a uniform way of doing this, but I would also like to hear your thoughts. Thanks for your time. Vasil3fonov (talk) 12:08, 20 July 2025 (UTC)

Separate lines in both infobox and stats box, with no total. GiantSnowman 12:14, 20 July 2025 (UTC)

Alright, so in that case Griezmann's totals should also be corrected. Thanks! Vasil3fonov (talk) 12:19, 20 July 2025 (UTC)

And what about the season link? You linked it both times for Theate but not for Kayky. Vasil3fonov (talk) 12:20, 20 July 2025 (UTC)

Season and club repeated link is much of a muchness - I usually link both times, others prefer not to. GiantSnowman 12:22, 20 July 2025 (UTC)

Cheers! Vasil3fonov (talk) 12:26, 20 July 2025 (UTC)

Let me know if you need any more help! GiantSnowman 12:44, 20 July 2025 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 30, 2025)

Hello, GiantSnowman. The article for improvement of the week is: Human behavior Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind • Musician Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 21 July 2025 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI •

Nomination of Reece James (disambiguation) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Reece James (disambiguation) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Reece James (disambiguation) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

Spike 'em (talk) 07:57, 22 July 2025 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Mackenson Altidor

The article Mackenson Altidor has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Subject fails to meet the WP:GNG because of a lack of WP:SIGCOV.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Let'srun (talk) 19:55, 22 July 2025 (UTC)

Edit to Kathleen O'Melia

Hi GiantSnowman. I just wanted to remind you of WP:COSMETICBOT RE this edit. voorts (talk/contributions) 23:52, 24 July 2025 (UTC)

Nothing cosmetic about it - the template documentation makes it clear that the date is to be updated whenever undertaking a date audit. GiantSnowman 15:05, 25 July 2025 (UTC)

I was referring to the edits to the citations, which are cosmetic edits since it didn't change any displayed text. MOS:DATE and MOS:DATEUNIFY also say the format YYYY-MM-DD is acceptable for use in citations. voorts (talk/contributions) 16:46, 25 July 2025 (UTC)

OK, thanks. GiantSnowman 17:30, 25 July 2025 (UTC)

Had a brainwave overnight - I think there's something you can add to the DMY template to maintain YYYY-MM-DD in citations... GiantSnowman 08:36, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

Nomination of Mackenson Altidor for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Mackenson Altidor is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mackenson Altidor until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

Let'srun (talk) 15:09, 25 July 2025 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Jean (footballer, born 1992)

The article Jean (footballer, born 1992) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Satisfied the old guidelines, but fails SPORTCRIT now

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Geschichte (talk) 20:09, 26 July 2025 (UTC)

Info

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Selangor_F.C._Under-23&diff=prev&oldid=1302605432

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Ydlp19#ANI

this user vandalised whole article, using bad grammar and promotional style in multiple examples, not accepting sources for own reasons, highly possible sock with same pattern. some action to stop it has to happen, appreciate 93.140.39.137 (talk) 12:42, 27 July 2025 (UTC)

Revert, warn, report to AIV if it's vandalism. GiantSnowman 13:23, 27 July 2025 (UTC)

Users with banning tools must help... 93.140.39.137 (talk) 13:38, 27 July 2025 (UTC)

You have not provided any evidence of conduct that requires a block. GiantSnowman 13:39, 27 July 2025 (UTC)

On the Noticeboard withdrawal

I wanted to re-raise the issue when I was in a calmer state of mood. I initially wrote it while angry (I have untreated anger issues IRL due to a list of personal reasons that don't concern you or anyone on enwiki, though it rarely leaks onto Wikipedia anymore). Same goes for the edit summary in question. Was it wrong? Yes. Do I regret it? Yes. Will it happen again? No.

I need to gather the specific edits in question and redo the complaint in like a week. What's stressed me out over this is that I perceive this as a large problem across enwiki. It wasn't just the removal of "Soviet/Ukrainian" from pages, but also the russification of the names that link to BLPs of Ukrainian individuals on enwiki. These IPs also never respond to talk page requests and all seem to come from the same few cities in Russia, which to me is suspicious (This isn't me asking you to take action, but rather to explain why I rushed the complaint and why I got so heated in the first place.)

I feel the best way to do this would be to withdraw the complaint and start over with a clearer headspace. Thank you. ⛿ WeaponizingArchitecture | yell at me 14:29, 27 July 2025 (UTC)

Deleting the topic is not how it is withdrawn. GiantSnowman 15:04, 27 July 2025 (UTC)

Alright. How do I withdraw? I apologize, I usually don't use this process too much. ⛿ WeaponizingArchitecture | yell at me 18:39, 27 July 2025 (UTC)

Just ask for the matter to be closed. GiantSnowman 20:05, 27 July 2025 (UTC)

im assuming I tell an admin? ⛿ WeaponizingArchitecture | yell at me 23:00, 27 July 2025 (UTC)

No, you don't need to do anything like that. Just ask for it to be closed and it will be in due course. GiantSnowman 17:43, 28 July 2025 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 31, 2025)

Hello, GiantSnowman. The article for improvement of the week is: History of hide materials Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Human behavior • Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:13, 28 July 2025 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI •