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Administrators' newsletter – May 2025

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Articles for Creation backlog drive

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Hello Utopes:

WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive in June!
The goal of this drive is to reduce the backlog of unreviewed drafts to less than 1 month of outstanding reviews from the current 3+ months. Bonus points will be given for reviewing drafts that have been waiting more than 30 days. The drive is running from 1 June 2025 through 30 June 2025.

You may find Category:AfC pending submissions by age or other categories and sorting helpful.

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There is a backlog of over 3200 pages, so start reviewing drafts. We're looking forward to your help! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:25, 20 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding User:Theobservantguy/sandbox

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Information icon Hello, Utopes. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that User:Theobservantguy/sandbox, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 00:07, 25 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – June 2025

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2025).

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  • An arbitration case named Indian military history has been opened. Evidence submissions for this case close on 8 June.

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Your draft article, User:Theobservantguy/sandbox

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Hello, Utopes. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or draft page you started, "sandbox".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 23:21, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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WikiCup 2025 July newsletter

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The third round of the 2025 WikiCup ended on 28 June. This round was again competitive, with three contestants scoring more than 1,000 round points:

Everyone who competed in round 3 will advance to round 4 unless they have withdrawn. This table shows all competitors who have received tournament points so far, while the full scores for round 3 can be seen here. During this round, contestants have claimed 4 featured articles, 16 featured lists, 1 featured picture, 9 featured-topic articles, 149 good articles, 27 good-topic articles, and more than 90 Did You Know articles. In addition, competitors have worked on 18 In the News articles, and they have conducted more than 200 reviews.

Remember that any content promoted after 28 June but before the start of Round 4 can be claimed in Round 4. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:50, 29 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Companies in the OMX Iceland 10

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A tag has been placed on Category:Companies in the OMX Iceland 10 indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. ✗plicit 11:55, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – July 2025

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2025).

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Forrest Hall

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Hello new mentor: I just changed the location of Forrest (Forrey) Hall's high school from Natrona Heights, Pa., to Oil City, Pa. Ghost of Hud (talk) 11:48, 13 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good! Thanks for your edit to Wikipedia :) Utopes (talk / cont) 02:29, 15 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Fetisov Journalism Awards

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Hello. Could you please see the draft I have revised? I have corrected the comments that were pointed out by another reviewer. I have found 3-4 independent authoritative sources that describe the award in detail:

  1. 1 (Forbes)
  2. 2 (SWI swissinfo)
  3. 3 (medienwoche.ch.). Thank you! 95.153.162.39 (talk) 06:35, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, I don't review AfC drafts on request. If you're able to add those sources into the article, the next reviewer would be able to assess them. Utopes (talk / cont) 06:40, 16 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Short descriptions and AfC

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Hi, in the future as part of post-AfC cleanup, can you please verify that short descriptions meet the formatting and content guidelines such as WP:SDFORMAT? Battle of the Flockey was flagged at Wikipedia:Database reports/Long short descriptions for being 100 characters, which is far above the recommended 40 characters. Most long descriptions can be pretty easily shortened to 40-60 characters. Thanks. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:25, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good, can do that moving forward. Didn't realize that was a database report! Thanks for the heads up. Utopes (talk / cont) 04:28, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. It's a relatively new thing at WP:WPSD since it was only implemented after a discussion late last month noting that the maintenance category for >100 character SDs was consistently pruned down to 0 so we should create something new for the longer SDs that were equal/close to 100. I'm not super familiar with the intricacies of the AfC process; do you think it would be possible to integrate a check for this into the AfC helper script? -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:42, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It is possible in the helper script to change the short descriptions before publishing to mainspace, so I think that it comes down to AfC reviewers having to manually confirm that the short description is <40 characters before publishing. Although, if it is a new requirement across mainspace that short descriptions shouldn't be longer than 40 characters, having that built into the helper script could be a good reminder! Could forward the question over to the AFCH folks. I imagine that this could also affect the NPP workflow as well, (i.e. ensuring that the short description isn't too long.) Utopes (talk / cont) 04:54, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
WP:SD40 isn't a hard limit, but that's where it gets truncated in some contexts. Generally 40-50 characters is perfectly fine as long as the important stuff (e.g. nationality, field, type of work, etc.) is in the first 40. Up to 60 characters is acceptable if necessary with the same caveat about key information first and over 60 should be pretty rare. I would appreciate it if you did forward it to appropriate forums (I recently came across another long SD case from an article accepted at AfC). If you do, either drop a notice at WT:SHORTDESC or ping me and I can do it. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 05:12, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, will keep you posted on that front. At the moment with AFCH, it's possible to pass an article with any length of short description. If 40 characters is the recommended number, having an alert/signal within the helper script that says something like "this short description is longer than 40 which is longer than the recommended length" could get it in people's heads to stay within the appropriate range. But the precise signal number can definitely be discussed more on a talk page somewhere. Will look at tomorrow. Utopes (talk / cont) 05:17, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Draft: Phitter

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Hello Utopes, I saw that you rejected the submission of the article Draft: Phitter. You argue that the relevance of the bibliography doesn’t seem sufficient to you.

In the bibliography, I included a reference to the website of Professor PhD Larry Leemis, with whom I spoke and confirmed the functionality and usefulness of the page. I also included an article from JOSS that has been peer-reviewed and approved by open-source and data science experts, all of whom hold doctoral degrees. I added publications from well-known data science blogs and independent sources.

I decided to create a Wikipedia entry because Phitter is software that documents the majority of probability distributions listed in the List of probability distributions and addresses the topic of Probability distribution fitting through a web application, with the novelty of using WebAssembly.

The previous rejections, and this one in particular, seem superficial to me. They do not offer guidance on specific issues to fix and ignore the fact that I have followed the recommendations from the mentioned guidelines in the structure of the document. Sebastián Herrera Monterrosa (talk) 19:17, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In the draft, the claim is made that "Phitter helps researchers and practitioners identify distributions that best model their data". This claim is then cited to a Reddit comment (reference 3), which is not a reliable nor independent source. In order to establish notability, we need to see these types of independent sources, per Wikipedia's general notability guidelines. I'd recommend removing the reddit reference.
The threshold for having a Wikipedia article extends beyond having an .io website (reference 4), or a documentation page (reference 5). The rest of the sources seem primary, not reliable, not independent, or don't provide significant coverage. Reference 2 says "Phitter" in passing and doesn't give significant coverage of the subject, and Refs 6 and 7 are how-to guides that appear to be WP:Routine on the site. The only reference that seems to meet the WP:GNG requirements, is Reference 1, i.e. the JOSS article, which is a great reference. More references like that would be appreciated.
The "Python Package" section contains no references; any contestable material should be attributable to a reliable and independent source that significantly covers the material. Within the unreferenced material, there's also several neutral point of view violations, such as when the article claims: "The Python library Phitter provides an intuitive interface". What reliable/independent source can say that the interface is specifically intuitive? It's phrases like this, along with the general structure of the draft that highlights Phitter's benefits without independent sourcing, that make the article read as an brochure, and needs to be cleaned up before it can be approved. The list of probability distributions also seems to be original research, as no citation is associated with that information at this time. Utopes (talk / cont) 20:53, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Hi Utopes. Thank you for your work on Lithium ozonide. Another editor, PopePompus, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Thanks for adding the article on Lithium oxide. Wikipedia has a long tail indeed!

To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with {{Re|PopePompus}}. (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

PopePompus (talk) 23:05, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ooops - sorry, I meant ozonide. PopePompus (talk) 23:07, 20 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for reviewing it! @PopePompus: what did you mean by "Wikipedia has a long tail"? Utopes (talk / cont) 01:43, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
There's a phrase associated with the internet - The Long Tail. It was originally used in reference to Amazon, I think. Amazon had a large selection of niche products available for purchase. A much larger selection of niche products than any brick-and-mortar store would have. The sales volume for any one of those oddball products (very old books, etc) was minute. But taken together, they represented a significant volume of sales and profit. So the "Tail" in question was the tail of a purchase-probability distribution. Brick-and-mortar shops just can't afford to stock a huge variety of products that hardly ever sell, but Amazon can, and taken as a whole, there's money in that tail. Similarly, Wikipedia has a long tail. I'm willing to bet that the Encyclopedia Britanica has never had an article on Lithium ozonide, at least in their hardcopy editions. They could never print a physical encyclopedia that comprehensive. But there's no practical limit to how many articles Wikipedia can have, so even though your Lithium ozonide article may get slightly fewer views than the article on Donald Trump, the entire collection of articles about specific chemical compounds probably gets quite a lot of viewers. That huge collection of articles about obscure topics is "The Long Tail", at least in my understanding of the term. More of a blurb than you wanted, I suspect. PopePompus (talk) 02:32, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ahhh, I see what you're saying. I have not heard that term before now, but I agree Wikipedia's tail goes a long way lol. I love the blurb btw, thanks for the message! Utopes (talk / cont) 17:35, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Hi Utopes. Thank you for your work on Tetramethylammonium ozonide. Another editor, SunDawn, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Thank you for creating the article! Have a blessed day!

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✠ SunDawn ✠ Contact me! 01:22, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reviewing! Utopes (talk / cont) 01:43, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Zoran Spasov

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Hi, thanks for reaching out to me.Last week I received instructions (User:Gheus) to cite sources from these these newspapers, where I listed them, while the others listed are from the Macedonian National Theater, (drama repertoire,https://mnt.mk/en/ansambl/umetnicki-ansambl/akteri/aleksandar-mikikj-2#:~:text=Aleksandar%20Mikic%20was%20born%20on,ROLES%20IN%20THEATRICAL%20PERFORMANCES ) Publication for the Best Seller, (https://ijassumsirma.mk) as well as a publication for the book Tibam Shtrkot (https://www.scribd.com/doc/263541488/Zoran-Spasov-Tibam-Shtrkot). The article is exclusively about the writer and his books, I don't see any promotional character here, if you think it has one somewhere, feel free to improve the article Иван Ж (talk) 07:04, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The "Creativity" section is overloaded with non-notable entries. Only discuss the materials that are reported on by independent, reliable sources. Not everything that Spasov has ever made. The draft still says things like "Spasov is considered a great humanist" and that he "selflessly donates", which is not WP:NPOV; a lot of people are considered humanists, but rarely is that something worth mentioning. Utopes (talk / cont) 17:33, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your remarks, I corrected some things, and I will try to fix the rest within my capabilities. Иван Ж (talk) 16:51, 22 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Page moves

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Hello, Utopes,

I just came across two drafts that you moved from User sandboxes to other titles in User space when they should have been moved to Draft space. Please be sure and check the namespace when moving draft articles. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 01:41, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, apologies for that! Forgot to click the "draft" button. Thanks for taking care of it, I'll be cautious about those. Utopes (talk / cont) 01:46, 23 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Soft redirects to Wikiquote

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If I might ask a personal favor:

Please be as light-gloved as you can with the pages listed in Category:Redirects to Wikiquote. Some certainly warrant discussion, but it becomes a burden to those maintaining the related pages (often, admittedly, me) if the category becomes too small. See here for context.

Warmest regards, — Godsy (TALKCONT) 02:49, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If I could poke into this, what about the category being small makes it a burden? I don't think the "Soft redirects to Wikiquote" category is going to go away, or at least, that's not what my goal is with the noms.
There were two pieces of criteria that I used to nominate pages from that category, which I've now completed for the day (5 nominations). The first criteria is for the quote redirects that were "useless" as soft redirects, either not important enough to have (Find The Computer Room!), or the quote was not what appeared there (All who served the revolution have plowed the sea). The second criteria is for redirects that are not quotes, and might have a suitable target on Wikipedia. List of misquotations is an example of something that I felt could be kept onwiki, as we should try and keep Wikipedia searchers on Wikipedia, and Wikiquote searchers on Wikiquote, if that is an option. Utopes (talk / cont) 02:59, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It is not the virtue of the size of the category itself that is the problem, rather the ire that the less-used templates which populate said categories tend to draw from those who do not frequent the realm of redirects (unfortunately). A very recent example would be this discussion. On an individual level concerning each redirect, we likely agree more often than not. However, keeping the carefully cultivated ship of specialized soft redirect templates to sister sites afloat (and the regular soft redirect template unpolluted from crossing into the mainspace) is something I have encountered unnecessarily stormy weather about (because the matter is so arcane to many editors) over the past several years. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 03:23, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I see. Admittedly I'm a bit torn now that I've come to learn about the other projects. This is the first I've seen the whole set of WP:SSRT, and there are a lot more than I expected there to be. Just perusing through some of the examples, I don't think that every sister project requires one. From my point of view, the only SSRT templates we need, are the ones that can reasonably provide information for encyclopedic searches, when we have nothing on Wikipedia that can aid them. Out of all the sister projects... Wikispecies can give information for encyclopedic searches, as can wiktionary, and possibly wikiquote. The other 5 have dubious utility, if any at all, imo. Per WP:SSRT, only "commonly wikified words or that are repeatedly recreated should become soft redirects". The only reason that a page like Direct-drive photovoltaic electrodialysis via flow-commanded current control seems to exist, is to not have zero pages in the Wikinews template. Such a redirect would never have been naturally created otherwise... and to that end, I don't think there is really ever a need to redirect people from Wikipedia to Wikinews; there is a whole ongoing RfC about Wikinews as it happens. Wikibooks is another SSRT that probably does not need to exist. People who search for "Bengal potatoes" on Wikipedia are certainly going to be looking for encyclopedic information; not a cookbook. @Godsy: I will try to be soft when dealing with these SSRTs, but I am really skeptical about how much utility many of these have. Utopes (talk / cont) 03:46, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Four sister projects (media wiki, wikidata, meta-wiki, wikidata, and wikiversity) lack sister project redirect templates intentionally. The first three are no-brainers as to why (media and data are always inappropriate and meta is basically another version of our local community in some senses). Wikiversity is probably possible in theory, but in practice no reasonable pages have enlightened themselves. I could certainly see wikinews following it through the way of the buffalo. Wikispecies is an interesting creature. Initially, it served as links to commonly wikified words (e.g. ~50 links locally to David John Lawrence Agassiz as of 2022); whether or not that standard has been upheld is something I have not looked too deeply into. I do, however, find the argument for them made in this disucssion by the late DGG particularly compelling. The Wikibooks template exists because of Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 July 10#Tailspin (cocktail), basically. Which is really a perfect example. Should the community decide something like that, it is much easier to have such templates and categories etc. around. I do not think that sister site is entirely without potential though. The singular redirect to commons shephards readers from an article that was here since 2012 and moved there in 2024 (the history is still here — I do not believe the transwiki was properly implemented, but that is another issue). Wiki-quote, source, and voyage are used on occasion.
But, yes, thank you! There is a lot of nuance in this area that would be lost on those outside the community that frequents redirects for discussion.
— Godsy (TALKCONT) 04:43, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
BTW FYI, I'm going to boldly undo the Bengal potatoes BLAR that was made back in 2021; I don't think there was consensus to redirect that title into a WikiBooks cookbook. In 2021, we had a working encyclopedia article about Bengal potatoes that contained 1 reference, which is more than what the zero-source cookbook contains. I'm not going to do anything about Tailspin (cocktail) at this time, but wanted to let you know that it's now the only one. Utopes (talk / cont) 04:53, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
👍 Like— Godsy (TALKCONT) 04:55, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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