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You've got mail!

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Hello, Knitsey. Please check your email; you've got mail!
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Codename Noreste đŸ€” Talk 23:16, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Codename Noreste: Got it, thanks so much for that. Knitsey (talk) 23:19, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
why was i reported JoeQuackMama (talk) 18:13, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

November 2024

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Further violations will be sanctioned by the pool monitor.

Stop icon This is your only warning; if you make personal attacks on others again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. This is inexcusable. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:37, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Holy crap SFR. Heart attack city for a second there. But you're right, technically I should be blocked. I did apologise to her though. And she had an extra treat and tummy tickle. I'm worried it might happen again, now that it's in my head :( Knitsey (talk) 19:40, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Don't let it happen, further violations of our Biographies of Living Pups policy will be dealt with strictly. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:44, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
BLP will never have the same meaning again lol. That made me smile. Knitsey (talk) 19:45, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That photo! Water PupperDoggo! Love it. I got mine one of those sandpit plastic containers for kids. It took her all sumer to get used to it but loved it in the end. My previous doggo loved the water. Knitsey (talk) 19:52, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is one of the two or three times she got in the pool. She loves water as long as it didn't come out of a hose or a faucet. She'll swim anywhere, as long as it'll make her smell worse than when she got in. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:55, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
She must lab/part lab? Mine used to love stinky stuff. Especially loved to roll in badger crap. Knitsey (talk) 20:01, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We think she's a lab/hound mix, or possibly hound/great Dane. No way to know, though, since she's a rescue. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:33, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
She is gorgeous, not so much maybe when she stinks. Knitsey (talk) 21:44, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The new BLP policy: Biography of Living Pets! Myrealnamm (💬Let's talk · 📜My work) 18:28, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
here you go. Enjoy! Myrealnamm (💬Let's talk · 📜My work) 21:58, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OMG I love it lol. That's made my day week year! Knitsey (talk) 12:15, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]


A barnstar for you!

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Thank you so much for your help on the talk page vandalism done by 79.56.139.4! Cooldudeseven7 join in on the tea talk 15:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You're very welcome @Cooldudeseven7, and thanks for the barnstar. Knitsey (talk) 15:46, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No problem! Cooldudeseven7 join in on the tea talk 15:49, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Cookies

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Cookies!

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thanks for helping me during my episode Doopliss (she) đŸ‘» | Creepy Steeple đŸšïž 21:46, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@TTYDDoopliss you're welcome and thanks for the tasty cookies!
If you get stuck/run into a probelm when editing Wikipedia, there are lots of people who can help. Good luck with editing. Knitsey (talk) 21:58, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reliable Sources

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Hello! I recently made an edit to a page with a source from Instagram. This was being used to provide evidence of a romantic relationship in order to add someone to a list of LGBTQ ice hockey players. I did so in accordance to other pages in this list adding sources from Instagram, so I am confused as to how mine is different. This is my first time adding to Wikipedia, so I'd appreciate some insight:) Apolloam (talk) 22:20, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Apolloam I think it was a cite error. Can you post it here for me to look at? Thanks, Knitsey (talk) 22:22, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Do you mean post the citation or the article? The article is Johanna FĂ€llman and the citation was [1].
I copied the format used on a similar citation, citation 19, on Shiann Darkangelo since I wasn't sure how to go about formatting and the like. Apolloam (talk) 22:26, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Apolloam That is coming up with cite error but it's saying 'not a available in your country' which might just be a UK problem. It seems more and more common these days.
I'm also not sure of the status of social media used as a reference for this.
Any talk page stalkers/watchers that can help with this? I can't open the link. Knitsey (talk) 22:30, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well, if I was using my brain, yes, those look like two lesbians in a relationship, and it sure is an anniversary for them. For future reference, I would look at the citation on Todd Edwards#Personal_life, where it talks about him being in a relationship with a man, the first of the two citations is an Instagram post about his guy. BarntToust 23:31, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, it came up as cite error at first, then 'not available in your country' which I seem to be getting a few times lately, that's why I needed someone else to check. Thanks for doing that, you're a star. Knitsey (talk) 23:34, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, absolutely. There are a few caveats to using a self-published source in the article, and Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons#Presumption_in_favor_of_privacy can explain better than I. There's unfortunately no way to verify the gender of this person's relationship given the post and the person's profile not including any pronouns, and we can't name the person that the hockey player is dating for respect of their privacy. I'm sorry to rain on the parade of the LGBTQ endeavour, but that's the deal with content concerning people who aren't notable, especially this sort of stuff in self-published sources. BarntToust 23:48, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, that's fine, thank you! I'm not on Insta but the links usually work ok for me. It is so annoying. My sister is coming over in a few days so I'm going to have a play to makr sure it's not a connection/provider issue. Knitsey (talk) 23:52, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hope you find a way to fix the internet troubles, and enjoy the visit with your sister. See ya around, maybe! BarntToust 23:57, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Instagram". www.instagram.com. Retrieved January 7, 2025.

A kitten for you!

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Thanks for your reply. It was very interesting. I got interested in this topic after buying a vase in Portland Oregon that is one of the Japanese Gouda vases. There are some more charming photos on Etsy of Japanese Gouda. Firelightpeony

Firelightpeony (talk) 14:27, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the lovely kitteh! I have collected a few pieces of period pottery in the past. A friends mum gave me some Meissen figurines and two Herend bon bon baskets. They were lovely pieces although not really my taste. It got me started. I love Carlton Ware pieces and have a few. Mostly, I can't afford the real stuff these days but Japan does make some beautiful pieces that are classed as 'in the style of'. Looking at their Gouda style pieces, you can at least add a zero to the price for vintage Gouda. They don't generally try to pass them off as original and most factories hand paint their pieces. I think the difference (apart from age and origin) is, original Gouda style pottery was poured liquid clay/slip casting (I think). Knitsey (talk) 15:06, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Firelightpeony Knitsey (talk) 15:08, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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A fox for you!

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Great catch at List of Garfield characters - God only knows how long "Jeff Bazos" was there. Have a wonderful weekend!

Jellyfish (mobile) (talk) 03:35, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The only time that it's suitable to say let's get rid of Jeff Bezos.
Thanks for the fox, I have urban foxes visit my garden for the food I leave out. Knitsey (talk) 13:12, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:BITING newcomers

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I noticed you recently left a final/only warning at User talk:Amruthashub for spam links. I do not think this was appropriate and it seems like WP:BITING to me - the editor in question had just registered and has only made three edits, all to the same article and the spam link added was not that egregious (it was at least somewhat relevant to the article). I think a level 1 warning would have been more appropriate to encourage them to learn Wikipedia policies and try to retain them as an editor. Giving them a final/only warning is only going to discourage them from editing Wikipedia, I feel. Adam Black talk ‱ contribs 13:59, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Adam Black, thanks for your thoughtful message. There is some disagreement about levels of warnings for spammers. Generally, it used to be a single warning, although not everyone uses it. I think some clarification might be needed maybe? Some editors who patrol recent changes don't issue any warnings and to straight to AIV. I prefer to give a warning initially. Knitsey (talk) 14:08, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I take your point, but as the article also already had a collection of inappropriate external links (thanks for removing those too) I still think the much softer {{uw-spam1}} would have been more appropriate in this case. Egregious violations of the external links policy should be met with {{uw-spam4im}} but I don't think it was warranted here. For context: Amruthashub is one of my mentees and this was the first time one of them has received a warning, which is why I took a look into it. Adam Black talk ‱ contribs 14:24, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I can deffinitely see your point about the numerous existing spam links, so I will take that into consideration in future.
This is in no way a tit-for-tat suggestion. The abusive message left by the IP that you very kindly reverted, should be reported straight to AIV. If someone (ip or user) just posts a message saying 'shut up' then an escalation of warnings are appropriate, I would have left the ip a level 4 warning then reported to AIV for harrassment. I'm used to such messages but would report to AIV (same with serious BLP violations). I'm not going to report them in this instance as they're likely to do it again at some point and someone will report them. But thank you so much for reverting it! Knitsey (talk) 14:51, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think I agree with you that I should have issued a stronger level 4 warning, but I'm not sure about it going straight to AIV. After all it says at the top of the page the user must have first been sufficiently warned, and I see admins refusing requests at AIV regularly for this reason. I also thought, while it should be immediately removed, that it wasn't that egregious compared to other personal attacks and harassment campaigns I've seen here and elsewhere although I'm maybe a little desensitised - my day job involves cleaning up vile comments significantly worse than anything I've seen posted on Wikipedia. Adam Black talk ‱ contribs 15:06, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Urgh, I feel for you.
AIV can be awkward to navigate sometimes. When it comes to hate speech then they would probably be blocked. I say probably as, with life, Wikipedia will always come up with an exception. There is low tolerance for such things, so skipping the chain of warnings shouldn't be an issue. It's the same for racist language, always go straight to AIV with the reasoning and you can always add a request for rev/del consideration. The only reason I leave a warning when it's hate speech is exactly because there will always be an exception to the rule. Plus, admins are human too and sometimes can misread something resulting in a 'not sufficiently warned' message. You can always message the admin and ask if they would mind explaining the no block. Knitsey (talk) 15:23, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
In recognition of your hard work in thwarting vandalism on Wikipedia. Adam Black talk ‱ contribs 15:17, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I can come across quite blunt and matter-of-fact sometimes. I've taken a brief look through your contributions and just wanted to show that I appreciate your efforts at tackling vandalism and spam and the above comments shouldn't detract from that. Adam Black talk ‱ contribs 15:21, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Aww thank you so much. You were perfectly polite. I truly do not mind at all when people question what I have done. I welcome it as I frequently come across things that I wasn't even aware of. I still consider myself one leg up from noob lol. Knitsey (talk) 15:30, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome. I've been here a little longer than you, but without as many edits, and I think of myself as just slightly above noob status too. You were perfectly polite too, some people get very defensive when you question their actions in any way. Adam Black talk ‱ contribs 15:36, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Wasn't it Pope who said "to err is human" etc. I'm just glad that most of my errors have been minor and nobody is paying too much attention to me otherwise I might end up with more people questioning my editing. Shhhuuush, don't tell anyone that. Knitsey (talk) 15:46, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Academia verses Oral Tradition

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i recently added to the the " Pikey" page which you removed for not citing source .

I am Romani, of Kalé / Sinti Blood, the reference is my own People and Language ... I can give you a quote for a Hindi dictionary but that is all. With Respect, I feel that to remove my submission because it does not have an academic reference, when it is based in the Oral History of the actual People mentioned in the Article goes against the Ethos of Wikipediaa WayneAD55 (talk) 12:28, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there @WayneAD55. Thank you for reaching out.
I've taken another look at your edit and I think it does need a reference. The reason is, the etymology section states circa 1520. The English didn't land in India until the very end of the 16th century and then formed the English East India Trading Company which was chartered in 1600,
It is entirely possible that 'word of mouth' from , say, Portuguese travellers would account for the term Pikey', it would need some type of reference to account for an uncommon word from before the documented use in 1520. I hope this helps. Knitsey (talk) 12:45, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Can I also ask, you seem to have created and are using two account? The above account and W Danewood. I will pop a message on both your accounts to explain why two accounts, unless for legitimate reasons, are not allowed on Wikipedia. Knitsey (talk) 12:49, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
i created one years ago ,but thought it had been deleted ...which is why I created a new acvount WayneAD55 (talk) 12:51, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I have left you a message. It might be worth putting a note on the other account about when and why you intend to use it. I have a second account that I only use when on an insecure WiFi connection, (mainly when I was in hospital) I think I've only used it twice? I have a note on my user page so that people know it's a legit account.
If you reply, I suggest we do it on your talk page for this account? The convo will all be in one place then. Knitsey (talk) 13:01, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
the Word has been in use in the Romani Languages for over a thousand years and is still used in india in the Hindi language,and is related to the Period of time that the Romani spent in the Indus Valley .
https://dict.hinkhoj.com/phiki-meaning-in-hindi.words
The Romani are first mentioned in Europe in the 1400s ..
Aside from that, having read the entire article I see that someone has written a line about outcast pikeys with the reference
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I find the citation method difficult to understand WayneAD55 (talk) 13:00, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've replied on your talk page with an apology about me getting the dates wrong. I apologise here as well for that. Knitsey (talk) 13:20, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Wood, Manfri Frederick (1973). In the life of a Romany gypsy. London: Routledge & Kegan Paul. ISBN 0-7100-7595-2.

help me delete my user page

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i was creating a test user page using my own name and you flagged it, how do i delete. I'm a 5th grader trying to learn about citing sources on internet Infinyte42 (talk) 20:45, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

An Admin will take a look at it eventually. Maybe put a message on your talk page asking for your user page deleting? Knitsey (talk) 20:48, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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User Squidboyzontherun

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Please review his edits from today and take appropriate action. Thank you. 216.168.91.75 (talk) 01:11, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey sup i just wana ask are you one of Wikipedia workers?

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. 119.73.99.248 (talk) 17:59, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm a volunteer, like nearly everyone else here. Is there something I can help you with? Knitsey (talk) 18:19, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings and...

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Hello Knitsey, Long time, no "speak"! Regarding recent edits of mine which may have got in your way, not quite sure what happened, but I obviously put my foot in it somehow and then got me whatsits in a twist trying to sort it out. Hope you weren't bothered... and if you were, sorry! Keep up the good work! Technopat (talk) 18:30, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Technopat, how are you doing? Are you still enjoying the sunshine?
Does your message have something to do with the spammer? Knitsey (talk) 18:34, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well, that got messy! Looks like it's gonna be one o' those evenings! In answer to your last question, yes. But now I'm intrigued by your cryptic "sunshine" question... --Technopat (talk) 18:42, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well if you know, you know. OR I got you mixed up with someone else lol. Just ignore me, brain fart moment. Knitsey (talk) 18:44, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The TV complaint spammer is an LTA. Although you probably already knew that. Knitsey (talk) 18:48, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sigh! This gets crypticker and crypticker (sic). While I'm well aware of the term "brain fog", as in my permanent stae of mind, that there "brain fart" of yours is a new one on me... (oh! you young 'uns, always coming up wiv new figures o' speech). Does "brain burp" exist? If not, I claim it. ("Hiccoughs/hiccups" have been around for yonks, of course.) Which brings me to that double-whammer of yours: LTA...? Yer "lol" I can cope with, but that one went waaaay over my head! Baffled, bemused and befuddled regards, --Technopat (talk) 20:00, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Baffled, bemused and befuddled - bbb, my life most of the time.
I think Brain mishaps go in this order, worse to even worserer.
Brain Hiccup
Brian burp
Brain fart. Knitsey (talk) 20:05, 15 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

User:Magitroopa/sandbox

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Hey- based on your latest edit(s), I think you've noticed something up. Only just saw it (if I had seen it earlier, I would've reverted it before you added the speedy deletion template), but for a quick explanation, it's just more trouble from Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Zjholder / Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Zjholder. It looks like the account has already been globally locked, but thank you for looking out for vandalism, though. Magitroopa (talk) 23:23, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, I CSD without looking properly, I hadn't realised it was your sandbox. Thats me being naughty. I only noticed after, when I thought 'I know that name' lol.
I will leave it in future. Thanks for the heads up. It make it easier when reporting them early at AIV, to add a case link. Thank you! Knitsey (talk) 23:27, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No worries whatsoever. And even further thanks, as just quickly looking at some of your recent edits, I saw a revert of yours on Wikipedia:BMB... another frequent socker, Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Agustin Sepulveda Venegas 2004 Fan. Magitroopa (talk) 23:49, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I saw a few of the previous edits but didn't see any sock tags so I wasn't sure which was the pupeteer. I will add them to my list as well. Thank you! Knitsey (talk) 23:53, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
For helping deal with the vandalism on my talk page while I was unable to. Thank you! JeffSpaceman (talk) 00:11, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I am so sorry you've been targetted recently. It must be so annoying for you. I try to keep the little twerps away. Thank you for the barnstar! Knitsey (talk) 00:15, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your kind words. I think, given my status as an openly queer editor, I am bound to be a target for harassment on here by vandals. I try not to let it bother me -- I do hope deep down that it will subside sooner or later, though. Once again, thanks so much for your help, it is highly appreciated. JeffSpaceman (talk) 01:16, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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"Thanks"

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I just follow your lead, Knitsey. Drmies (talk) 03:36, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You're a true gent @Drmies. I always try to send a thanks, not because I like seeing editors blocked, just because it must be a bit repetitive dishing out blocks. Knitsey (talk) 03:48, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well, first of all I appreciate it, and second, I appreciate it extra because I also don't actually like to block. Take care Knitsey, Drmies (talk) 13:02, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

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Good grief, your user pages get a lot of it! If there's ever anything you want doing, admin- or otherwise, do please let me know.

I don't know how you put up with it, and I sure don't know why you should have to. :( DoubleGrazing (talk) 18:48, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there @DoubleGrazing. I mainly deal with vandalism so I end up with, shall we say, a lot of disgruntled people that land here. Most of it doesn't bother me. I occasionally ask for rev/del. I prefere to leave it unprotected if I can because I do get some genuine questions. Ponyo kindly protected it recently due to threats, which was welcome.
There are some lovely page watchers (thank you all) who catch some of it and revet. Most of it goes over my head but I forget that other people have to read the guff if they are reverting. That bothers me most, that other editors end up reading it. Knitsey (talk) 18:57, 15 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

UAA

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Thanks for the report at WP:UAA but please note that some wikis allow organisation accounts - see Commons policy for an example, the German wiki is another. Except for the most offensive usernames, please don't report users at WP:UAA if they haven't edited on this wiki. Cabayi (talk) 06:43, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've just worked out which one this is referring to. I'm not linking as I don't want people to know I'm an idiot. Although, in fairness, anyone who names a coin, bomb, needs some PR training. Knitsey (talk) 11:40, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Barnstar of Diplomacy

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The Barnstar of Diplomacy
Thanks for keeping it real. Ref [1] 86.20.197.254 (talk) 03:00, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Give them a bit of leeway, they are new, they are mostly doing a great job so far. We see a lot of vandalism, especially on user talk pages, so we sometimes get protective. Keep up the good work! Knitsey (talk) 03:03, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

User:Emir0307

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Hi, thank you for your contributions. I note that you've been investigating possible sockpuppetry involving this user.

Should a proper SPI be created? User:Hahayes234, User:WarkzFN, User:Roblox584929, User:Quzok, and User:Emir122tr all appear to be related. 162 etc. (talk) 21:08, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm really not sure. I know it has been going on for a while at the ABCya article. I didn't realise until just now that 'they' have ventured out to Mary Ann Shadd. It looks to go back to 15th March, although there is an account before that who messed with the article. I'm half tempted to say yes BUT they might like that? A lot seem to thrive on being a known sock puppet. What do you think? Knitsey (talk) 21:20, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It does make it easier to identify and block future socks down the road. @Pickersgill-Cunliffe: 162 etc. (talk) 21:44, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That is a reason why I like having them there, it also makes it easier to just add an SPI link to AIV reports rather than hunting down past edits and editors. It is easy to add them to an SPI then report endless links every time. But then, I'm just lazy lol.Knitsey (talk) 21:48, 20 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@162 etc.: Out of interest, did you decide to do anything with this? Knitsey (talk) 14:19, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) I'd suggest dropping a line with an admin who as check user rights. (I don't.) -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:23, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's actually good advice, I always forget we have that as a facility rather than filling in an SPI. I will wait to see if 162 etc. has done anything first. Thank you @Ad Orientem. Knitsey (talk) 16:28, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've not started an SPI, and am not aware of one. 162 etc. (talk) 17:29, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OK thanks for answering, I will have a look at the quick checkuser function. Might be worth it. Knitsey (talk) 17:39, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Add User:Iwillu to that list too. 162 etc. (talk) 16:10, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think we might as well just create an SPI then? I was hoping they would be bored by now. I'm on my mobile, and I certainly don't mind doing an SPI although it takes forever (even using Twinkle) to do one. Knitsey (talk) 16:13, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tea and biscuits

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So....if you drop half a biscuit in your tea, do you fish it out and continue drinking the tea? Or toss it and get a fresh cup? Joyous! Noise! 00:52, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It's always disappointing to see an esteemed admin go down the pan. HOW THE HECK DO YOU FISH OUT A MELTED BISCUIT FROM A CUPPA? Knitsey (talk) 00:56, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sieve Joyous! Noise! 01:03, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Or...do you just leave it in there and keep drinking? Joyous! Noise! 01:04, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Honestly, I give it a few minutes to settle then keep drinking. Wasting a good cuppa isn't really on. The birds enjoy the dregs. Knitsey (talk) 01:15, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I stir in lemon curd instead of sugar. Drmies (talk) 01:16, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sweet baby jebus on a bike. Get off my talk page. Lemon curd? We all know Americans don't own kettles. Knitsey (talk) 01:18, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Mackays has em, which they use to make lemon curd in "small batches", they say. Also, not American--yet. Drmies (talk) 01:33, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm so sorry, I thought you were American! I take back the kettle comment. Knitsey (talk) 01:34, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
i have a kettle Joyous! Noise! 01:38, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That makes you part British then. Knitsey (talk) 01:41, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was joking about drinking it with the glob at the bottom. You're willing to risk drinking sodden crumbs? I...I thought you were a different kind of person. Joyous! Noise! 01:22, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As long as you're careful, the biscuit stays sunk. Even the dog frowned at me when she heard the little 'plink'. She knows a wasted biscuit is a no-no. Knitsey (talk) 01:28, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's a dog for you. I have a cup of tea right now and I'm pretending there's a cookie at the bottom, and I nearly gagged. I have some texture issues with food. (somebody out there is twitching to hit us with a "this isn't supposed to be a social media forum" message.) Joyous! Noise! 01:31, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking we are going to get told off soon. I'm still getting over the lemon curd thing. We should leave it there. Knitsey (talk) 01:33, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Some stroopwafels for you!

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Sounds like you need to step away from the tea and bicsits... biscits... HobNobs. Have a coffee instead, like nature intended. And with it, these plywood discs, which even someone with limited dunking skills couldn't break. DoubleGrazing (talk) 06:08, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Now that sounds just right. Give me all of the caffeine and the sweet stuff, yummy. Thank you @DoubleGrazing. Knitsey (talk) 13:16, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hijacking pages

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Hi there. Saw your comments on Salemsaken's talkpage. My understanding is that hijacking also applies to redirects. Where did you learn that it did not? Onel5969 TT me 00:47, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Onel5969, I had a discussion with another admin as I wasn't sure what to do with them. It was suggested that it is allowed.
Regardless, I should have gone with the Welcome message first, rather than jumping in to the warning, even if I turns out not to be allowed. Knitsey (talk) 00:51, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, the essay, WP:HIJACK/A, suggests that it also includes redirects, but does not give an example which corresponds to this type of instance. However, I think that when there is a long standing redirect, if there is an article with the same/similar name, a new article should be created, with a disambiguator, in this case (art historian) would be appropriate. Then either hatnotes on both pages, or turn the redirect into a dab page. There doesn't seem to be a direct policy on this. But to me that makes sense. you never know how many pages link to the existing redirect (in this case I think it's only 1). Thoughts? And maybe you could ask the other admin you were discussing this with? Onel5969 TT me 01:00, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've run into this before although it was with an LTA that hijacked articles and someimes redirects. Although they were creating an article for a singer, the articles were unsourced/poorly sourced. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Japansonglove. Obviously, the case yesterday was different, they weren't a sock. I should have refamiliarised myself with Wikipedia:Article hijack. I would say that it could do with some further input on that policy, including creating another redirect to replace the one recently used?
I've also come across redirect pages that were articles, but deleted through AfD. I've kind of followed the lead of other admins on reversing those with an edit summary about the recent AfD.

I would appreciate some input on this although I think for now, apart from the socks, I should leave redirects alone until there is more guidance lol. No more oopsies. Knitsey (talk) 01:15, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello world

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Hey there. As you wander through Recent Changes, be on the lookout for someone who does some really great edits, reducing excess wordiness, leaving a descriptive edit summary, but....leaves the phrase "hello world" embedded in the middle of it all. I've blocked three accounts already, and there was an IP that I can't find again. It's super-frustrating because other than leaving a little piece of trash in there, the editing was REALLY good. Like, they took some time to do a good job, then spat in it. Joyous! Noise! 02:43, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ah thank you, that is one I reverted earlier. Are they a sock? Knitsey (talk) 02:45, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I'm not sure which is the master: all three accounts were created a month ago, so there may be some others. Joyous! Noise! 02:49, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
OK, Will keep it in mind if I see them again. Thank you.
If you are around for a little longer, can you keep an eye on Patteecreek. I've left them a message but they haven't responded. I wouldn't usually ask but they might have a reason for the removal of content, or just be yanking our collective chains. Knitsey (talk) 02:54, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sure! Joyous! Noise! 02:55, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Someone needs attention... We need more CUs who look around through Recent changes and could jump on this at the second or third instance. Drmies (talk) 16:47, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I seem to remember a thread at AN/I(?) about the need for more check users. I asked if CU's needed to be admins. I think the person that answered thought I was asking for me! I could almost hear the panic in the responding 'No, but technically yes' response lol. I was asking as I could think of two (then) recent RfA candidates who narrowly missed out on gaining the mop, who might have been suitable as CU's.
I don't know what the outcome of the conversation was. More CU's patrolling RC would be really useful. Knitsey (talk) 17:04, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ha. I lost my CU tool because I made a few mistakes, minor mistakes IMO, and perfection seems to be the goal. ArbCom wants perfection. Drmies (talk) 21:46, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
'I'm nit a perfectional, I'm having a fan of correctlyness' my response to perfectionists!
I would love to know the ins and outs of CU but I barely know how the interwebs works lol. Knitsey (talk) 21:52, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Walton high school

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An Open Message to Knitsey Your recent actions regarding Walton High School have been nothing short of disgraceful. Reverting the necessary changes that were put in place to rebuild the school’s integrity after recent scandals shows not only a shocking lack of judgment but a complete disregard for the students, staff, and community that depend on strong, honest leadership. Make no mistake: the issues that rocked Walton High were real. Professional misconduct was confirmed, and your attempts to pretend otherwise only deepen the damage. Denying it or sweeping it under the rug insults every family who trusted this institution to care for their children. It’s not just rumors — the full truth, with sources and evidence, will be coming to light in the coming weeks. You will not be able to hide behind weak denials or cosmetic changes once the facts are fully exposed. It is also important to point out that a member of the school’s own leadership team previously acknowledged these issues in a letter to parents — a letter that took courage to write, and that stood as a commitment to honesty and transparency. Your decision to reverse course betrays that commitment and raises serious questions about your motives and your fitness to lead. This community deserves better than leaders who prioritize their own image over truth and accountability. We will not forget this betrayal, and we will not stop demanding better for Walton High School and its future. The time for pretending is over. The truth is coming, and it will not be silenced. Staffsschoolinfo (talk) 20:31, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Staffsschoolinfo, you need a reference to add such controversial information about a living person. See WP:BLP in particular whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—must be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion
Can I also suggest you read WP:CIVIL. Many thanks, Knitsey (talk) 20:36, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The information referenced is already acknowledged by official school communications sent directly to parents — making it a matter of public record, not just rumor or speculation. WP:BLP requires reliable sources, yes, but it does not prevent mentioning factual and serious issues when they are based on official statements, even if wider media reporting is pending.
Your removal of the material without fully understanding the source basis is premature. Furthermore, WP:CIVIL applies to discussions between users — not to the removal of truthful, properly framed content.
Official sources will be made publicly available shortly to satisfy all citation requirements explicitly. In the meantime, blanket removals under the incorrect assumption of "unsourced" material are not appropriate.
Please check your interpretation of WP:BLP carefully. Future actions should be based on the actual policy — not personal discomfort with the facts. Staffsschoolinfo (talk) 20:38, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We are having a discussion, CIVIL applies. I have no opinion on a school I have never heard of, in a place I have never be to. I am concerned with verification of controversial information and Wikipedia's policy concerning said information. Please read the link I have provided. Feel free to add the information once you have provided a reference. Many thanks, Knitsey (talk) 20:42, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Staffsschoolinfo, I should add, if you are looking for a second opinion on this, then you could try asking at Wikipedia:Teahouse. Many thanks. Knitsey (talk) 20:44, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Knitsey,
Right, firstly — thanks for responding again, but honestly you're still wrong and it’s kind of obvious at this point.
You keep banging on about CIVIL and BLP like this is some earth-shattering situation when, really, all that's happening is a pretty basic case: an event at a school was officially acknowledged in letters to parents (real communication, not gossip), and now, because you personally don't know the school or the situation, you're treating it like it doesn’t exist. News flash: just because you've never heard of Walton High or Staffordshire doesn't make the real world stop spinning. Not everything gets reported in a national newspaper within 24 hours. Real things happen at local levels first.
Also, let's be honest here — I'm not some newbie wandering in clueless about how Wikipedia works. You keep suggesting "maybe try the Teahouse" like I'm lost. I'm not lost. I'm telling you what’s going on. I don't need a panel of strangers at the Teahouse explaining policies to me like I’m five years old. I’m aware that verification matters — but guess what? So does context, so does real-world awareness, and so does not knee-jerk deleting just because you personally feel uncomfortable or don’t understand the situation yet.
You’re acting like the mere act of mentioning an uncomfortable fact is somehow a violation. It’s not. BLP is about protecting people from baseless accusations, not protecting institutions or public figures from true, documented events that they themselves have acknowledged. There’s a very big difference. And frankly, it's exhausting having to spell that out when it's obvious if you actually read policy in the spirit it was written, not just the letter.
Anyway — to save you future typing: no, I’m not interested in dragging this into the Teahouse for some slow-motion bureaucracy about something that will be sourced and corrected properly in a matter of weeks. I don’t need to be told to “wait for sources” for the fifteenth time. I already said I would. I’m not stupid.
Bottom line:
You removed material that will be verifiable, was already partially verifiable, and you’re pretending it’s some kind of major user error on my part when, actually, you jumped the gun. Once the sources are public, it’s coming back, and there’s not going to be any magical BLP loophole to hide behind.
Hope that clears it up, and i await your response Staffsschoolinfo (talk) 20:50, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Staffsschoolinfo, when you have a reference, feel free to add the information. I'm not going to keep repeating myself. Please adhere to Wikipedias policy WP:BLP. You seem to have mistaken my compliance with policy for opinion. Please do not do that. Knitsey (talk) 20:54, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Knitsey,
Right, message received — you don't need to keep repeating yourself either. Trust me, I understood the first time.
The issue is, you seem to be mistaking my explanation of the situation for me somehow "not understanding" policy. I do understand BLP. Probably better than you think. I'm not confusing your compliance with an "opinion" — what I am saying is that your interpretation of the situation was shallow and a little knee-jerk. Compliance is good, but understanding the full picture is better.
I’m fully aware that adding controversial material requires a reference — and as I’ve said (several times now), once the published sources appear (they are coming), the content will be restored, fully cited, and fully compliant. No one is arguing otherwise, no matter how many times you want to frame it that way. Staffsschoolinfo (talk) 20:57, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The information has been deleted as per Wikipedia policy. Feel free to ask for any advice you might need once you supply the reference. This matter has been resolved for now. Please don't post further about the subject on my talk page unless you need advice on how to add the reference. Good luck. Knitsey (talk) 21:00, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Match sock to master

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Regarding this revert, when you see "Joe Walz" garbage pop up in articles, it's Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/GeraldFord1980. The joke never tires for them.-- Ponyobons mots 22:45, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

And I was just about to post I had spotted it in the history lol. Thank you for the info. I will keep my eye out for it. Knitsey (talk) 22:48, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh god that asshole is still here? Drmies (talk) 00:38, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reversion of edits

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Hello, I accidentally reverted you edit on the article "Copyright infringement". I tried to click on the revision, but accidentally clicked on "rollback". RaschenTechner (talk) 21:02, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

See you at AN/I then. Knitsey (talk) 21:05, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's not a problem at all. Don't worry about it. You can change rollback settings if you find it happend too many times. I was doing it about once a week whilst scrolling, so I changed it to 'confirm rollback'. Knitsey (talk) 21:07, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 1 May 2025

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* Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:17, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Pathetic, huh. Drmies (talk) 02:11, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

They have some stamina that's for sure. It is a pretty pointless waste of time. Knitsey (talk) 02:13, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Well they have been severely mistreated. Oppressed, even. Drmies (talk) 02:14, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Huh? Knitsey (talk) 02:15, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh yeah. Very sad. They were doing dumb shit that made no sense and that no one wanted and then they got blocked. A year ago? Drmies (talk) 02:16, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh lol, sorry. I had forgotten what triggered all this. It seems a strange hill to die on? I've given up trying to figure ou that type of person. Knitsey (talk) 02:19, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Something about regions they imagined in Florida--not even exciting regions. And for some reason they're picking on Magnolia, who isn't even an administrator. Just enormously incel. I should get paid by the block. Drmies (talk) 02:20, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The only think I wonder about is, after maybe 10 years, do they look back on this and cringe inside, or are they still angry. I look back on some things I did when I as young and want to cringe lol. Nothing like this though. Knitsey (talk) 02:24, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Seriously, the real question, well there's two. One, why doesn't the WMF take actual legal action. Two, how come the filters don't catch this jerk. Alright Knitsey--it's been fun, but it's bedtime here. Let's see if the next admin can catch before their third edit. Take care, Drmies (talk) 02:23, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nighty night. Knitsey (talk) 02:24, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) I hate to barge in on the conversation, but I just so happened to come by here, and... is this about that long-term-abusing vandal who threatened to rape and murder Magnolia? Yeah, I was one of the first to rollback their edits and contact the Oversight Team about them. What a freaking loser. elm she/they (ARF! | pugmarks) 17:06, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Cedelmwood, yeah, that's the one. It was a long slog yesterday. Knitsey (talk) 17:21, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, damn. I'm a little out of the loop; what was the aftermath of the incident? Like, the full story? Some people just should not be let anywhere near a computer. Or any device connected to the Internet, for that matter. elm she/they (ARF! | pugmarks) 17:33, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing out of the ordinary, for them. They were at it for a while that day. It was a team effort. Knitsey (talk) 17:37, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I see. No, but seriously, who even thinks of that kind of garbage to fling around at complete strangers? I guess it's best not to think too hard about it. There are many in this world who are, well, kind of shitty. Anyway, happy editing to y'all... if you can, that is, haha. Stay safe. elm she/they (ARF! | pugmarks)

the road dance

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i’ve read your page and found something interesting that made me pause reading for a moment i am busy with the same type of thingy shooting a film of myself adding here and there short vids. uhm did you do it yourself or what is it a film you’ve downloaded, reason why i’m asking is because i’m looking for help and tips bout how to make my own using my “android phone”😀 i think i’ve found my best friend on social media/Wikipedia, can you believe that you the only oneđŸ«Ł. Kidnxtdoor angelo (talk) 18:35, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That is the one article I created. The only film I've ever taken is mostly of my animals being derps. As Bishonen has already mentioned, Wikipedia is not social media. Although you make friends along the way, and find people that you respect a great deal as editors, the primary purpose of Wikipedia to create and improve on the best encyclopedia out there.
If you have editing questions then please feel free to ask. Knitsey (talk) 19:55, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
its the reason why i want to make friends to ask and help me understand to create, edit to guide me what's up with these people i really appreciate your understanding but those who jump to whatever you might call it is the ones holding me back from doing the things i want to like creating editing and much more. Kidnxtdoor angelo (talk) 18:47, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nobody is holding you back from editing Wikipedia constructively. Find a subject you like and start editing. Knitsey (talk) 19:15, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, user blocked. Ta-ta. Knitsey (talk) 19:16, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies

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Hello. I apologise if I sounded rude to you here. I didn't mean it like that. Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 23:08, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Ivebeenhacked No, no, I apologise. I didn't realise my edit sounded accusatory lol. Knitsey (talk) 23:09, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

May 2025

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Information icon Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made to Izhevsk: you may already know about them, but you might find Wikipedia:Template index/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. Thank you. –HirowoWiki (📝) 23:14, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This user should not be wared in ay shape or form. They ate a highly abusive LTA and should be reported to AIV on sight.
Also, maybe check out Wikipedia:Don't template the regulars? Knitsey (talk) 23:17, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I see. I've sent thanks button 2 times in a row. :) –HirowoWiki (📝) 23:19, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I thanked a bot earlier! No problems. Rape and death threats should always just go straight to AIV. Thos one is really nasty, aways best to avoid engaging with them. Knitsey (talk) 23:21, 3 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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