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A kitten for you!

Thanks for your reply. It was very interesting. I got interested in this topic after buying a vase in Portland Oregon that is one of the Japanese Gouda vases. There are some more charming photos on Etsy of Japanese Gouda. Firelightpeony

Firelightpeony (talk) 14:27, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for the lovely kitteh! I have collected a few pieces of period pottery in the past. A friends mum gave me some Meissen figurines and two Herend bon bon baskets. They were lovely pieces although not really my taste. It got me started. I love Carlton Ware pieces and have a few. Mostly, I can't afford the real stuff these days but Japan does make some beautiful pieces that are classed as 'in the style of'. Looking at their Gouda style pieces, you can at least add a zero to the price for vintage Gouda. They don't generally try to pass them off as original and most factories hand paint their pieces. I think the difference (apart from age and origin) is, original Gouda style pottery was poured liquid clay/slip casting (I think). Knitsey (talk) 15:06, 13 January 2025 (UTC)
@Firelightpeony Knitsey (talk) 15:08, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

The Signpost: 15 January 2025

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A fox for you!

Great catch at List of Garfield characters - God only knows how long "Jeff Bazos" was there. Have a wonderful weekend!

Jellyfish (mobile) (talk) 03:35, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

The only time that it's suitable to say let's get rid of Jeff Bezos.
Thanks for the fox, I have urban foxes visit my garden for the food I leave out. Knitsey (talk) 13:12, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

The Signpost: 7 February 2025

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WP:BITING newcomers

I noticed you recently left a final/only warning at User talk:Amruthashub for spam links. I do not think this was appropriate and it seems like WP:BITING to me - the editor in question had just registered and has only made three edits, all to the same article and the spam link added was not that egregious (it was at least somewhat relevant to the article). I think a level 1 warning would have been more appropriate to encourage them to learn Wikipedia policies and try to retain them as an editor. Giving them a final/only warning is only going to discourage them from editing Wikipedia, I feel. Adam Black talk • contribs 13:59, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Hi @Adam Black, thanks for your thoughtful message. There is some disagreement about levels of warnings for spammers. Generally, it used to be a single warning, although not everyone uses it. I think some clarification might be needed maybe? Some editors who patrol recent changes don't issue any warnings and to straight to AIV. I prefer to give a warning initially. Knitsey (talk) 14:08, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
I take your point, but as the article also already had a collection of inappropriate external links (thanks for removing those too) I still think the much softer {{uw-spam1}} would have been more appropriate in this case. Egregious violations of the external links policy should be met with {{uw-spam4im}} but I don't think it was warranted here. For context: Amruthashub is one of my mentees and this was the first time one of them has received a warning, which is why I took a look into it. Adam Black talk • contribs 14:24, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
I can deffinitely see your point about the numerous existing spam links, so I will take that into consideration in future.
This is in no way a tit-for-tat suggestion. The abusive message left by the IP that you very kindly reverted, should be reported straight to AIV. If someone (ip or user) just posts a message saying 'shut up' then an escalation of warnings are appropriate, I would have left the ip a level 4 warning then reported to AIV for harrassment. I'm used to such messages but would report to AIV (same with serious BLP violations). I'm not going to report them in this instance as they're likely to do it again at some point and someone will report them. But thank you so much for reverting it! Knitsey (talk) 14:51, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
I think I agree with you that I should have issued a stronger level 4 warning, but I'm not sure about it going straight to AIV. After all it says at the top of the page the user must have first been sufficiently warned, and I see admins refusing requests at AIV regularly for this reason. I also thought, while it should be immediately removed, that it wasn't that egregious compared to other personal attacks and harassment campaigns I've seen here and elsewhere although I'm maybe a little desensitised - my day job involves cleaning up vile comments significantly worse than anything I've seen posted on Wikipedia. Adam Black talk • contribs 15:06, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
Urgh, I feel for you.
AIV can be awkward to navigate sometimes. When it comes to hate speech then they would probably be blocked. I say probably as, with life, Wikipedia will always come up with an exception. There is low tolerance for such things, so skipping the chain of warnings shouldn't be an issue. It's the same for racist language, always go straight to AIV with the reasoning and you can always add a request for rev/del consideration. The only reason I leave a warning when it's hate speech is exactly because there will always be an exception to the rule. Plus, admins are human too and sometimes can misread something resulting in a 'not sufficiently warned' message. You can always message the admin and ask if they would mind explaining the no block. Knitsey (talk) 15:23, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

help me delete my user page

i was creating a test user page using my own name and you flagged it, how do i delete. I'm a 5th grader trying to learn about citing sources on internet Infinyte42 (talk) 20:45, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

An Admin will take a look at it eventually. Maybe put a message on your talk page asking for your user page deleting? Knitsey (talk) 20:48, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
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