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Women in Red

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Hi there, Vivek Rai, and welcome to Women in Red. It's good to see you intend to help us improve Wikipedia's coverage of women. You'll find some useful tips in our Ten Simple Rules. If you would like others to see your interest in the project, you can sign up under "New registrations" on Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/New members. Please let me know if you run into any difficulties or need assistance. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 10:56, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Ipigott Thank you! I have several articles in progress and would remember to reach out if I need anything. Also, happy to help with anything else as well! Cheers! Komodo (talk) 18:22, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Ipigott It appears that I may need your assistance earlier than I expected. So following Women in Red goals for this month, I started a draft article here for a social activist and revolutionary historical figure of India: User:Vivek Rai/Bibhabati Bose. I have added everything that I could dig up and I feel generally quite good about it. But there are a few aspects that can use cleanup, and I hesitate to move to mainspace just yet and only to be AfDed. So I was wondering if you might have time for a quick glance and share any thoughts/feedback you may have on the draft! Thanks. Komodo (talk) 04:42, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It looks as if it is coming along very well. I see you intend to add further citations. I don't think there will be any problems if you move it to mainspace.--Ipigott (talk) 08:13, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! In the spirit of being bold, the article is now live in mainspace at Bivabati Bose! ~~~ Komodo (talk) 18:57, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Hi Vivek Rai. Thank you for your work on Tumor-informed minimal residual disease. Another editor, North8000, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Nice work

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North8000 (talk) 14:20, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Hi Vivek Rai. Thank you for your work on Tumor-agnostic minimal residual disease. Another editor, Klbrain, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Thanks for creating this page for this emerging technique. There is significant overlap with Tumor-informed minimal residual disease, as many of the approaches are similar. However, as this is an growing field it's possible that they'll develop sufficiently to more clearly warrant separate discussions. I've linked it from ctDNA, and some further linking might be helpful too. Remember to be as specific as possible when adding categories.

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Klbrain (talk) 09:16, 5 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback request: Maths, science, and technology request for comment

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 Done— WeWake (talk) 23:52, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}} tag from Evolver (software), which you proposed for deletion. I originally endorsed the PROD, but thought WP:BLAR to Genetic algorithm#Commercial products would be the best result for the page, as it is seeing pageviews (~70 this month). If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add {{proposed deletion}} back to the page. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! Synpath 18:51, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Synpath, Sounds reasonable to me. Thanks! — WeWake (talk) 18:56, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Feedback request: Biographies request for comment

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The Signpost: 14 May 2025

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I have sent you a note about a page you started

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Hi WeWake. Thank you for your work on Seeni Viswanathan. Another editor, Rahmatula786, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

good work

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Rahmatula786 (talk) 14:31, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bill Nelson discography

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Hi, responding to your comment on Draft:Bill Nelson discography.

Yes, the draft is creating solely for the intent of a standalone page. I asked in the Bill Nelson (musician) talk page [1] if there was interest in this, because, as the current setup stands, it bloats the article to quite unreadable levels. A more senior editor than me, User:martinevans123, agreed, I've received no pushback, so here we are :) Fundgy (talk) 07:11, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I should add, when looking through everything that's currently listed on Bill Nelson (musician), a lot of it is just flatly wrong, and this appears to be due to its bloaty-ness. In either case, improvements made to the current list alone won't help with the bloat that a standalone discography page also solves. Fundgy (talk) 07:16, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate the additional context. I am going to review the draft now. Once it is in the mainspace, please see if you can link it appropriately from the main artist page. Cheers! WeWake (talk) 07:30, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No objections from me! Fundgy (talk) 07:33, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For "more senior" please read "has been here longer". But I agree with all that Fundgy has said. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:51, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry about that... I'm pretty new here in the scheme of things, so it's nice when I'm able to defer to someone who more people can confidently say they know what they're doing. Didn't mean anything by it :) Fundgy (talk) 07:57, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not all, Fundgy. Thank you for the compliment. I'm sure you've done all the right things. Many thanks Martinevans123 (talk) 07:59, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @WeWake, I am replying you here on your talk page because i didn't find any reply button there on draft page. I appreciate your thoughts on creating a category on domestic murder cases in india but should we create a such category because such all cases don’t have seperate Wikipedia articles. Like the recent Meerut Saurabh murder case, which got huge media attention. I will be happy if you share your thoughts on this. Thanks TheSlumPanda (talk) 04:23, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No worries @TheSlumPanda. I think that's the core issue, if all such cases don't have a Wikipedia article, then what determines what goes in the list? In fact, if you feel that there's sufficient coverage to warrant an article for a case, you could start from there and then the list (or category) provides a hierarchy or way to read all such articles of interest. My earlier suggestion came out of concern that perhaps your article, if accepted, might be nominated for deletion due to similar concerns (not to say that that will happen). However, I must emphasize that no one editor controls what happens on Wikipedia, so you're welcome to contribute in your way—keeping the core Wikipedia guidelines in mind. WeWake (talk) 04:33, 29 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@TheSlumPanda: — I wanted to add further resource for your review: WP:CSC. This guideline has information on how to construct list-based article. I think structuring your article, as your have already done so to some extent, into one of the categories would make a stronger argument for this standalone article. Given you're interested in notable cases, the criteria for inclusion is highly specific and likely yield a dynamic but useful list. Upon further thought, I think I'll be inclined to support this article in the mainspace. WeWake (talk) 20:17, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@WeWake ofcourse i will work on this list and will add more cases to it. Thanks for your comment TheSlumPanda (talk) 04:13, 7 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Women in Red June 2025

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Women in Red | June 2025, Vol 11, Issue 6, Nos. 326, 327, 339, 340


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  • Who are the most overlooked and interesting Women in Red? We've no idea,
    but we're putting together our list of the 100 most interesting ex-Women in Red.
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Hello. You're invited to participate in The World Destubathon. We're aiming to destub a lot of articles and also improve longer stale articles. It will be held from Monday June 16 - Sunday July 13. There is $3338 going into it, with $500 the top prize. If you are interested in winning something to help you buy books for future content, or just see it as a good editathon opportunity to see a lot of articles improved for articles which interest you, sign up on the page in the participants section if interested.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:30, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds fun —  Done! WeWake (talk) 18:07, 4 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Draft:Lucy Sheen

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hi! thank you for reviewing Draft:Lucy Sheen, i'd like to know what the minimum threshold for publication in reliable secondary sources is since she seems to me to be the main subject in at least two well-regarded articles and arguably up to four or five, being a major component (if not the direct subject in those). not to say that you're wrong for declining, but it is of course difficult when the subject has been an activist about the lack of coverage of british east asians... i know for a fact that she's been in several print media that i don't have access to since i have been, and will be, out of the country for a while. any advice on this matter would be much appreciated.--Plifal (talk) 22:51, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • You can review WP:SIRS that has an example table showing different sources support the criterias needed to establish the notability of an article on Wikipedia. For your references in the article, choose the best sources that you can, and try to create a table that has at least two sources (just a guideline, you can have more) that meets all of the criterias. You can read more about this at WP:THREE, an essay by another user that reflects how the notability is being assessed. Hope this helps! WeWake (talk) 23:05, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @WeWake, yes thank you! i've since found an academic article in which she's one of three co-founders independently featured about her activism. will look for more, but hopefully next time it will be accepted :) --Plifal (talk) 11:43, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Sounds great! WeWake (talk) 15:42, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Water Pillow Page

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Hi WeWake, you recently approved the water pillow wiki page, I followed all of the guidelines and thought it be useful for people with neck pain based on the research and subsequent write ups in medical trade journals like Modern Medicine and The Medical Post. Now, I have been flagged multiple times by an editor called Zefr. Zefr deleted over half the page and almost all of my citations, and below you will see his quote, I was going to respond to him/her but felt it would not be useful. He later complained that I used the word we, but I used "we' because I consulted a friend to help me gather all the reference to make this article acceptable to wikipedia standards. I think the main issue is, and I hope you agree, if you read his editorial comment quoted below, that Zefr, does not understand what a peer review published article is or how difficult it is to go through the peer review process in a medical journal. I am asking for your help to restore the wiki page you approved. Thank you

Zefr wrote:"The 1997 study had only 41 subjects studied over only 5 weeks, after which the subjects complete 4 simple questionnaires. That is not only the definition of preliminary primary research, but it was likely a graduate student project barely worth publishing." Dear Zefr: This is simply wrong: You need to read the clinical study. The study was conducted by 2 medical doctors, a neurologist and a physiatrist, and the statistician in the study, Keith V. Kuhlemeier, has a PhD. The study went through the peer review process and published in Archives of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation which is the official journal of the American Congress of Rehabilitation Medicine.

How do I request a fact check by a wiki editor, as qualified in statistics, as the statistician, Dr. Kuhlmeier, who analyzed the data in the Johns Hopkins study? Also someone that understand the age of the study versus the relevance of neck pain (it doesn't matter if the study is old, neck pain in 2025 is the same as neck pain in 1997). Also an editor who will give thought to the fact that no other study has proven any other pillow concept effective for neck pain since; so instead of the age of the study being a negative, it's actual very impressive. And here is final thoughts, Zefr should read the study and to understand that the medical doctors in the discussions sections stated that it is the engineering of the pillow with a water bladder that is the reason for the positive effects, because they state water being a fluid conforms to the shape of the head and neck and being a fluid, the non compressible water support layer automatically adjust to sleeping position (so you are not waking up during sleep to restuff your pillow). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ella Noga (talkcontribs) 19:12, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Ella Noga:—if another editor raises concerns around reliable sourcing and makes changes to the article that you disagree with, the reasonable path forward is to discuss it on the article talk page and ping (using {{ping}}) the involved editors for a good-faith discussion. They may have a reason to do what they did or perhaps misunderstood you; or that there might be real gap around what is accepted (or not) on Wikipedia. While I accepted the original article, that was not to say that I believe everything in that article at that moment complied with Wikipedia policies or that there were no issues. For articles that cite medicine-related sources or make claims, higher standards of referencing are expected, and that's where WP:MEDRS policy comes in. WeWake (talk) 20:15, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi WeWake, thank you for your transparency and response. I now completely understand why the edit to Neck pain wasn’t appropriate, and I genuinely appreciate you explaining it.
I had no idea about the WP:MEDRS standards or the nuances of adding medical content — I was just trying to help. After reading so much research and credible media coverage on water pillows (including the peer-reviewed Johns Hopkins study), I thought a one-line mention in Neck pain might benefit readers, especially if they wanted to explore the full article.
That said, I now see that content like that needs to be handled differently and discussed first. I’m still relatively new to editing and am here mainly to strengthen my formal writing and research skills — I didn’t expect things to escalate the way they did.
I do feel that Zefr may have misunderstood or dismissed the study too quickly, and I was disheartened by how aggressively the Water Pillow article was trimmed after it was already approved. But I understand now that the best way forward is to collaborate respectfully and learn from the process. Thanks again for your time and guidance — I’ll be looking into WP:Good faith and WP:COI more carefully moving forward. And hopefully it can be return to it's originally state. Ella Noga (talk) 20:35, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Ella Noga:, I have reviewed a few more details about the article and your affiliation. Given the circumstances, and the fact that you're writing an article about a product from a company you're affiliated with, it's a very strong conflict of interest. In this scenario, you'd ideally not want to edit that article at all (see WP:COIEDIT). If there's sufficient reliable sources to warrant an article, other editors will be able to do that. While I appreciate the sentiment that you want to share this invention, inclusion on Wikipedia has very specific criteria, and you may want to explore other avenues to sharing this invention outside Wikipedia. In this case, it appears that Zepf is correct in their assessment. I understand that writing about contributing to articles that are familiar to you is an easy start, but for your technical writing practice and Wikipedia contributions, I suggest editing or working on article that do not have a conflict of interest. WeWake (talk) 20:46, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I just want to state that a lot of his claims are just incorrect the peer-reviewed clinical study cited in the article was conducted by two medical doctors and a Ph.D.-level statistician — all with scholarly credentials — and was published in Archives of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation, the official journal of the American Congress of Rehabilitation Medicine. This is a respected publication, and the study was not a “graduate student-level” project, as claimed. The assertion that the study is insignificant simply because it was published 28 years ago is also misleading. The study remains one of the only peer-reviewed investigations into the effect of pillow type on neck pain, and its findings continue to be referenced in medical trade journals and consumer health media. Ella Noga (talk) 21:07, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Ella Noga While that specific assertion may be untrue, it is tangential to the main point, which is that it is the only study to do so, that too nearly 30 years ago and a very small sample size. It's not just the argument that this one study is bad, but that it's insufficient given the lack of reproducibility and further scientific study in the last 30 years. Hopefully you'll share the understanding that for a health effect claim to be credible, several studies (ideally peer reviewed and reputable) should reproduce the results. Scientific understanding is based on consensus and reproducibility over long periods of time, which in this case, is difficult to establish. WeWake (talk) 21:31, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A Barnstar for You!

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The Special Barnstar
Thank you for assisting me regarding my username. I value your feedback and appreciate that you took time our of your day to assist me. MWFwiki (talk) 03:00, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Jimena Fernández de la Vega you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of David Eppstein -- David Eppstein (talk) 23:09, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The article Jimena Fernández de la Vega you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:Jimena Fernández de la Vega for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of David Eppstein -- David Eppstein (talk) 23:26, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Feedback requested: Rejection of Mukiya Baker-Gomez article

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Hi WeWake, I am an editor working with the Boston Black Women Lead Wikipedia project. I have written over 20 articles in the last six months on Black women in Boston's history who are missing from the encyclopedia due to systemic bias. I also teach classes on Wikipedia writing as part of the project. I noticed you rejected my article for creation on Boston community activist, Mukiya Baker-Gomez. The obituaries in the reference, which you refer to in your note, are from the Bay State Banner which is a statewide newspaper from Boston, Massachusetts, and Dorchester News, a more local paper from the Dorchester neighborhood of Boston. I have otherwise used sources from reputable journals like the Bay State Banner and the very reputable Boston Globe. Any feedback on the ways the article has not met Wikipedia standards and how to improve it would be helpful. Thanks! Halimaliha (talk) 21:12, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Halimaliha: thanks for reaching out! I don't have too many concerns around the fact that the topic cannot meet notability, in fact, many other sources exist that have not been cited in the article. It's just that over reliance on obituaries can be a little concerning to reviewers. I found two more sources that talk about Mukiya Baker-Gomez that you can include in the article, and expand the content if needed, that if submitted, would clear the bar of notability from my end. There might be more sources, but you can continue to work on them in the future. Hope this helps! WeWake (talk) 21:38, 17 June 2025 (UTC) [1] [2] [3][reply]

References

  1. ^ "Invisible Communities, Part 4: Haitians Say They're Haitian, Not African-American". WBUR News. May 12, 2010. Retrieved June 17, 2025.
  2. ^ Rotella, Carlo (September 17, 2012). Playing in Time: Essays, Profiles, and Other True Stories. University of Chicago Press. ISBN 978-0-226-72911-4. Retrieved June 17, 2025.
  3. ^ Company, Johnson Publishing (December 14, 1992). Jet. Johnson Publishing Company. Retrieved June 17, 2025. {{cite book}}: |last= has generic name (help)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Alvin C. Powers has been accepted

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Alvin C. Powers, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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RSN

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So as not to post irrelevant information on a thread at RSN, my comment is notifying you not to distract from what you are asking. Adding, "I had to come here because of the pushback I received on the talk page discussion" is irrelevant and more of a conduct concern which I would invite you to take to ANI if you feel necessary. The information is also misleading as you cherry picked a single comment to make it seem like I am gatekeeping which his also not true. CNMall41 (talk) 20:00, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I appreciate your thoughtfulness. I want to clarify that I don't have sufficient interaction with you in any project or topic to warrant a conduct issue or report, including the discussion on this topic. However, you do seem to have raised a few times that I'm accusing you of something, which if you continue to feel strongly about, then I must unequivocally say is not true. I see that you care about the quality and reliability of sources—which we need more of for a high quality Wiki; so I am completely aligned with you on that. Now regarding cherry-picking and gatekeeping: of the two edit summaries on the talk page (of which I linked one, but it doesn't make much difference which one), both say, "No, it is unreliable. You will need consensus if you want to add it.", and "Not my job. Get consensus or look up the links provided." On my end, I did look up the links, very thoroughly, if may say; and read the policies and guidelines carefully. If that did not support the contention you're making, then it's missing a critical piece of inference that is not being communicated in an evidence-based manner. I am not saying that it's your fault, I am saying that I can't deduce it based on the sources. I hope you'll grant that by opening a RSN discussion, I am also opening myself to feedback and criticisms from others. So I am not trying to curry favour or win a position. I am trying to ascertain the claim that the source was unreliable (my main question, having failed to do so from your links) and why I had to open the discussion (the talk page context). Finally, to lower the temperature, on my end, going forward I will keep the discussion to specifically about the source and its reliability at RSN (as you've also suggested). Anything else, we can chat here if needed. Cheers! WeWake (talk) 20:25, 18 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. Based on interaction with other users, it seemed like you took offense to me tagging a page you approved through AfC and then it spiraled for there. Looking back, it would have been better for me to simply cite WP:SATISFY after my initial point as I felt that linking to the discussion would be enough for an experienced editor to find the various discussions, etc. Regardless, I appreciate the civility. Happy editing! --CNMall41 (talk) 00:10, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Munsiyari Tulip Garden (June 19)

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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Afstromen was:  The comment the reviewer left was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
Afstromen (talk) 07:50, 19 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Could you kindly take a look at the article Draft:Diesel La Torraca? A reviewer has placed it under review for over 24 hours now, and I’m struggling to understand the reasoning behind this. From what I can tell, the subject clearly meets the criteria outlined in WP:ACTOR and certainly satisfies the requirements of WP:GNG. Afro 📢Talk! 19:26, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Afrowriter — because a page currently exists on Wikipedia with same name, the reviewer has to wait for it to be deleted by an admin before it can be moved to the mainspace. Since it is out of the reviewer hands at the moment, I'd encourage you to wait until it is completed. If you don't see any movement in a few days, please reach out to the current reviewer. WeWake (talk) 19:43, 22 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Sudhaker Upadhyay (July 9)

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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by RangersRus was: Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
RangersRus (talk) 20:36, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@RangersRus: Thanks for your review – could you share your assessment on notability w.r.t WP:NACADEMIC#C1 for this subject? Cheers WeWake (talk) 20:40, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The person's research has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources. Here you need to prove from secondary independent reliable sources about the significant impact the person's research made. All sources should be independent of the subject with significant coverage on the achievement, noteworthy impact or awards. RangersRus (talk) 20:52, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@RangersRus:, #C1a further states, The most typical way of satisfying Criterion 1 is to show that the academic has been an author of highly cited academic work – either several extremely highly cited scholarly publications or a substantial number of scholarly publications with significant citation rates – peer-reviewed citations of a work are by definition secondary since it's someone else referencing a work. Per this guideline, can you comment on why the subject wouldn't meet this criteria? Thanks! WeWake (talk) 21:31, 9 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You have 4 sources on the page and none of them are secondary independent. Any source that subject has association and self written research and books are no secondary independent sources. You will have to show secondary reliable sources with significant coverage about the subject, career, achievements and the work that has been significantly cited by others. The others who cited his work should not be part of same company or university or association or someone the subject affiliated with. RangersRus (talk) 08:22, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@RangersRus I believe there's some misunderstanding here - are you saying #C1a is not met? Also, WP:NACADEMIC says, per your own quote, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources. (note there's no secondary). General notes further say, [...] non-independent sources, such as official institutional and professional sources, are widely accepted as reliable sourcing for routine, uncontroversial details. WeWake (talk) 14:06, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Let me try to help you understand. I would like you to tell me about the 4 sources (each one separately) on the page about how you think they are reliable, independent and whether they show significant coverage on the subject and his career. From your response, i will give the feedback. RangersRus (talk) 15:25, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@RangersRus It appears that we're on different page w.r.t what academic notability requires. They are alternative criteria to WP:GNG which is what seem to be asking for. The sources do not need to establish SIGCOV. The sources are used to (a) verify routine academic credentials such as education background and non-independent sources are considered reliable in this context, (b) and show citation count and research impact metrics (Google Scholar) to establish that the subject has several highly-cited publications in peer-reviewed journals in a theoretical field per #C1(a) of WP:NACADEMIC. These combined together are the case for presumed notability and sourcing. Nonetheless, thanks for your input. WeWake (talk) 15:51, 10 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Are you saying that all his publications are not cited by authors who the subject has associated with? Are the authors who cited his book have no affiliation with the subject? Did the subject cite his own publication? Are the publications peer-reviewee by independent authors? Are all the citation by peer-reviewed publications? You have to take all these into consideration by proving it with a independent reliable source. So far with all 4 primary sources, you have not met any of these criteria.
The person's research has had a significant impact in their scholarly discipline, broadly construed, as demonstrated by independent reliable sources. NO
The person has received a highly prestigious academic award or honor at a national or international level. NO
The person has been an elected member of a highly selective and prestigious scholarly society or association (e.g., a National Academy of Sciences or the Royal Society) or a fellow of a major scholarly society which reserves fellow status as a highly selective honor (e.g., Fellow of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers or Honorary Fellow of the Institute of Physics). NO
The person's academic work has made a significant impact in the area of higher education, affecting a substantial number of academic institutions. NO
The person has held a distinguished professor appointment at a major institution of higher education and research, a named chair appointment that indicates a comparable level of achievement, or an equivalent position in countries where named chairs are uncommon. NO
The person has held a highest-level elected or appointed administrative post at a major academic institution or major academic society. NO
The person has had a substantial impact outside academia in their academic capacity. NO
The person has been the head or chief editor of a major, well-established academic journal in their subject area. NO
I am pinging veteran reviewers here to also review. @DoubleGrazing: @SafariScribe: @Theroadislong: @KylieTastic:. RangersRus (talk) 10:33, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(responding to ping) At first glance, I don't see anything in this article which would satisfy NACADEMIC in an obvious way. A total cite count of ~3k is not very high, nor is h-index of ~30. If that's meant to show that NACADEMIC #1 is met, I think we're on quite shaky ground.
@WeWake: you rewrote this article after undeletion, and submitted it to AfC, where it was declined. You then made some further edits, after which you moved it into the mainspace yourself. Any particular reason why you did that, rather than resubmit it, especially given that notability is at best borderline? -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 11:06, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@DoubleGrazing thanks for taking a look! Given the theoretical nature of the work and decent peer-reviewed first author publications with reasonable if not stellar h-index, I reasoned that the best approach to resolve it would be through an AfD (as a more appropriate venue for discussion) after AfC. These were based on my interpretation for #C1a and like you say, while it's not stellar, I didn't think it was an obvious fail as well. I also noted this in my move summary in case RangerRus continued to feel that they did not see notability. There wasn't anything further to add on my end and AfC resubmissions would not consider it substantially different from the last version – main space could at least also allow someone else to improve the article. Since I was the only contributor, I WP:BOLDly moved it to the main space. This seemed the most appropriate option for me to make a case of notability and engage in wider discussion over 1:1 chat or pinging people directly. Hope this makes sense and please let me know if this violates any policy. WeWake (talk) 14:25, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with @DoubleGrazing, I'm not seeing that they pass WP:PROF from the sources given but they are certainly not a complete nobody. My guess is they would not pass another round at AfD, but if someone did some digging and found a source or two to show their work has had an impact that would change things. I just realised someone has put it up at AfD since I started this so I guess we will see. It's not clear cut and sometimes it's good to be BOLD to see how things go. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 18:32, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Appreciate the input. For something that I expected to be routine, a large amount of attention has been drawn here from very specific people, who obviously are long-time editors and often administrators. I hope you’ll understand why that may feel overwhelming even if not intended. I will take a break for some time and recuse myself from the AfD. Thanks! WeWake (talk) 18:54, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Totally understandable and very normal. Yes, I've been around for a long time, but I've been BOLD and it's worked but also sometimes not so much. It sucks at the time, but that's why we call it being BOLD - it's good to push at the grey areas. Take a break, enjoy life. Cheers KylieTastic (talk) 19:07, 11 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello! A bit ago, you declined the draft for Amit Kumar Das since it didn’t show significant coverage from independent sources. Could you elaborate please? I believe I have included several references of articles about him from independent sources, but of course I may be wrong. Your advice is appreciated. Thank you @WeWake! Allakas (talk) 12:26, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No worries Allakas, and I appreciate your contribution. It appears that you're somewhat familiar with the requirements of notability for an article's inclusion in the mainspace—specifically that it must have significant coverage in secondary, reliable, and independent sources. Wikipedia has essays on what each means, but in simpler terms, we want to include references that are published in venues we can rely on (to be accurate and have reasonable standards of editing and publication; for example, paid news will be a concern), are not published or associated with the topic/subject of the article itself (so interviews or blogs may not count), and have sufficient detail (say a paragraph) to develop an encyclopedic article. In this case, we can do a "source analysis" for each reference and ask if they meet "Sig-Ind-Rel" criteria. If you're inclined to pursue this exercise, you can use the talk page of the draft, and note for each reference which criteria do they meet. We can continue the discussion from there. Hope this helps! WeWake (talk) 18:44, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your reply! I have tried to follow your advice in the talk page by listing the credibility of some of the articles used as references and how much they cover Amit Kumar Das, if you could check when possible. Once more, thanks @WeWake! Allakas (talk) 08:37, 1 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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