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Major conflict of interest

I want to bring to your attention a few pages where I believe there is a major conflict of interest or paid editing. These include the pages for Dipali Goenka, Manish Kejriwal, and B. K. Goenka (deleted multiple times). All three pages are of poor quality, and it’s worth noting that the first two were moved into the namespace by the same user ID. The last page was similarly moved into the namespace, possibly by a related ID, and the subject is Dipali Goenka's husband. What should we do about it? TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 07:31, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

I reached out because you participated at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dipali Goenka (2nd nomination) and had concerns about a possible conflict of interest. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 07:59, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

Wragby, West Yorkshire

Thanks for creating this article, I found it by linking to the wrong Wragby while correcting an article. I passed through there earlier in the week. Esemgee (talk) 12:07, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

@Esemgee I saw the note at Talk:Wragby and fell down the rabbit hole! Glad you found it useful. PamD 13:48, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Leeds Country Way

Leeds Country Way has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 16:50, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

In appreciation

The Good Article Rescue Barnstar
This is presented to you by the GAR process in recognition of your sterling work in helping Leeds Country Way retain its Good Article status. Keep up the good work! ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:38, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
@AirshipJungleman29 Thank you. I'm not sure I've now got the energy to work on Architecture of Leeds, but perhaps some talk page watcher might have a look at it? PamD 12:18, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

Women in Red February 2025

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CfD nomination at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 February 5 § Category:Eponymous categories

A category or categories you have created have been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 February 5 § Category:Eponymous categories on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 08:21, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

Rudman

Hi,

Thank you for reviewing the Rudman page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudman . I have reviewed all references, including links and page numbers, and have personally double-checked their reliability multiple times. I do not believe there should be a separate article on this topic. However, as I suggested edits, some individuals stubbornly removed all information without providing proper suggestions. You can read the full conversation here under exclusivity: User talk:Bkonrad

Could you please review it again and independently edit the original article and see if my edits should be reverted? That would be much appreciated. Gondishapur.uni (talk) 14:15, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

@Gondishapur.uni I note that your changes have been reverted, leaving a simple name-holder list, while you work on your article as Draft:Rudman.
References to books need page numbers. Please learn how to cite sources in Wikipedia using inline references, not simple numbered footnotes. In a dynamic entity like a Wikipedia article, another editor might want to add another reference in a week's or a year's time: if the references are sequentially numbered in your style, this would be very difficult to do accurately. Contributing to Wikipedia is very different from writing an academic journal article, because of the collaborative nature of the encyclopedia. See WP:Citing sources. PamD 23:38, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
Thank you, it was helpful. I have added inline citations. I hope this is acceptable. Could you please review and approve? Gondishapur.uni (talk) 09:35, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
@Gondishapur.uni I'll leave this to @Bkonrad: to consider. PamD 09:43, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

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Society of Authors

I recently used your helpful hints, left more than a year ago, in my effort to update this page. I'm hoping to remove the COI notice and sources notice and would be very grateful to have your approval first. CoalsCollective (talk) 13:20, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

usurped

Hi PamD, about the changes to The Writers' Prize a couple suggestions:

  • |usurped= means the entire website is bad. |unfit= means a single URL in an anotherwise working website is bad. In this case, the entire website is bad. I totally understand in effect they do the same thing, but, if someone wants to search/find only on usurped links, not unfit. It also tells readers something about why it was tagged.
  • The |via= is incorrect. Archived websites can't be via. The purpose of via is to help editors track down the original source of a story for verification, and archives are never the original source. A via would be like a news story originally published in one place, then an aggregator like Yahoo! News republishes it elsewhere. You will see reFill do this at large scale, but that's because reFill is broken and nobody has been able to fix it.
  • For links in the External links section, below the references section, we are supposed to use regular external link templates (or square links), not CS1|2 templates. The reason has something to do with performance and overhead. Rule of thumb don't use CS1|2 below the references section; this does not always hold true, is a best practice.

-- GreenC 16:48, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. PamD 16:53, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
@GreenC For info, I've just found that citation templates are allowed to be used in Further Reading section, below refs, though, as you say, not in External links. See WP:ELORDER. All very complicated. Always something new to learn about editing! PamD 14:46, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
One might earn a PhD in Wikipedia arcana. -- GreenC 16:56, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
@GreenC And the distinction between "unfit" and "usurped" is useful - I've now added a reminder about url-status to my list of useful info at User:PamD/sandbox#Templates! Thanks. PamD 14:56, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
Great! There is also {{usurped}} and {{unfit}} for wrapping bare/square archive URLs where the underlying source URL is usurped/unfit. The purpose is to prevent bots and humans from later converting it into a citation template and unknowingly re-activating the usurped/unfit URL. -- GreenC 17:01, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

DragonofBatley

Re. your comment at voorts' Talk, I agree we should have done something sooner. In fairness to you, you did try and they dragged you to ANI, where rather too much Good Faith towards DoB was assumed. But I knew they were a problem from the end of 2022 and didn't do anything about it until this year. I think it's partly because it is really hard work to resolve these cases. Look how long it took to finalise the first ANI. And the challenges we had when we tried to get rid of a few of the very weakest articles. And when you are dealing with a very prolific editor, it's even more of an effort. Never mind the exhaustion of their "I'm leaving / I'm back / I'm leaving" drama. I don't know what the wider answer is - maybe there isn't one. But we did what we could in this specific case.

Now, what are we going to do with all the time we've won back?! Take care. KJP1 (talk) 12:15, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
Interesting that re Aberystwyth Dragon seemed to be arguing for a tight set of criteria for a church to be notable, in contrast to his more recent works! Ah well. As for time, my current little project for odd moments when there's something good on the radio is belatedly adding my UK/Ireland creations to the list at Wikipedia:The 20,000 Challenge, to bulk up the numbers. I also feel I ought to go through my entire list of articles created and check that the sources all still work, finding archives if need be, and casting a quick eye over to catch any vandalism/carelessness; they're all on my ridiculously long watchlist but I'm sure I miss some important changes. I worry that a lot of long-established articles are gently degrading over the years from sources going dead and drive-by careless edits. PamD 12:39, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
Yes, the irony of his arguing that most churches weren’t notable was pretty mind-boggling! KJP1 (talk) 15:10, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

Women in Red March 2025

Women in Red | March 2025, Vol 11, Issue 3, Nos. 326, 327, 332, 333, 334


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Afd assistance

Hello PamD

I would appreciate your advice as an editor in good standing and of repute. I have written an article on Radio 4 presenter and producer Jolyon Jenkins but it has been tagged for deletion. I wonder if you would be so kind as to have a look at it, and the Afd discussion, and see what you think. Many thanks

Frobisher2021 (talk) 21:37, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

@Frobisher2021 I notice that almost all your edits have been on the one topic: do you have any personal or professional connection to Jolyon Jenkins? Are you he, or a friend, family member, agent, etc? If you have a connection with him please read WP:COI and note that such editing is strongly discouraged.
That said, thanks for your rare non-JJ edit: it was interesting but disappointing to hear that there will be no more, at least on Radio 4, of The Poet Laureate Has Gone to His Shed - and I fixed the reference, which you'd left in rather a mess (automatic reference-creation tools can be confused by a title like "Arts Correspondent" and take it as part of someones name: please always check your edits, because they are your responsibility and not that of any editing tool you use).
On the AfD... I'll have a look. But please tell me whether you have a Conflict of Interest, as defined by Wikipedia. Thanks. PamD 22:54, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
@Frobisher2021 I've done some tidying up. Please remember to put references after punctuation, and to use non-numeric dates for dates of refs (for access-dates it's optional to use all-numeric, but I've tidied them all up to non-numeric). PamD 23:58, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for your contribution, also for tidying up my Poet Laureate edit. And for clarification about dates.
I don't think I have a COI - I did know him many decades ago at school and so I've followed his broadcast career with interest and thought it surprising he didn't have a wikipedia page. There was a kind of mirror page on him somewhere which I think represents a failed past atttempt (it was poorly sourced) and I used that as a basis, but it's grown as I got the bit between my teeth. Frobisher2021 (talk) 18:53, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
@Frobisher2021 Fair enough no COI but just an interest. I've tried to help, as he does seem notable. PamD 20:46, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
@Frobisher2021 Was your mutual school the sort which has a website or magazine mentioning "notable former pupils", which could be used to add a bit of biographical info? It has been pointed out that the article has nothing about his life (birth date, town or country of origin, education, etc), only his work. PamD 10:18, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

Nomination of Manjari (word) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Manjari (word) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Manjari (word) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

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ITN recognition for Simon Lindley

On 2 March 2025, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Simon Lindley, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. PFHLai (talk) 16:56, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

Katlyr

I don't know if there is any option other than to block this good faith editor. Or maybe better ANI which is for "r chronic, intractable behavioral problems.". Doug Weller talk 10:54, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Welcome to the drive!

Welcome, welcome, welcome PamD! I'm glad that you are joining the drive! Please, have a cup of WikiTea, and go cite some articles.

Fix a random page lacking sources

CactiStaccingCrane (talk)15:39, 2 February 2024 UTC [refresh]via JWB and Geardona (talk to me?)

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Mary Eyles Gubbins

Thank you for the work on Gubbins'. But, it is in danger of either going to draft or being deleted. I think the stub is OK, but others may not and its status is very fragile. Can you help and find other references to ensure notability; I failed after repeated efforts. Thanks Mwinog2777 (talk) 18:01, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

A little persistence, and searching Google Books just for the book titles, found a few refs. I've expanded the article substantially - and spent far too much of my day on it, but then that's Wikipedia! PamD 21:43, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
As you did, spent a lot of time on it. But didn't get as far as you did. I thank you so much for saving the site.Mwinog2777 (talk) 22:39, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

Bloody Scotland

Hi Pam, thanks for creating a page for Bloody Scotland! TimDuncan (talk) 11:34, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

@TimDuncan Thanks for the thanks! I see from my record (on my user page) that I created it after Francine Toon's Pine (which won the McIlvanney Prize) was my reading group's book one month! (I'm so glad that I keep that list, because otherwise I wouldn't have a clue what inspired a lot of my page creations - sometimes something heard on Radio 4, sometimes a red link which looks as if it should be blue, etc). PamD 12:29, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
PS: It's always helpful to link any page you're talking about, like Bloody Scotland, for the convenience of both the person you're addressing and any passing inquisitive page-watchers. PamD 12:33, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Lucerys Velaryon Character

Hello PamD,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Lucerys Velaryon Character for deletion, because it's a redirect from an article title to a namespace that's not for articles.

If you don't want Lucerys Velaryon Character to be deleted, you can contest this deletion, but don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks!

Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.

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February and March music

For curious page-watchers: we're talking about the recently-deceased Simon Lindley. PamD 19:19, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

story · music · places

Thank you for a decent ref for Lindley and for your support for the composer, with spring flowers and a songbird (in places)! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:13, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt I sang under him for a few years when he was chorus-master and conductor for Leeds College of Music Choral Society. Exciting and infuriating. Seen in his element at the annual Carol concert in Leeds Parish Church (now Minster), conducting the combined forces of that CLCM choir, his elite St Peter's Singers, the choral foundation of the parish church (men, boys, and even girls), and a top-notch brass band. My father (1917-2009) once came across to Leeds to join a "come and sing" Messiah conducted by SL, and said he'd never sung it so fast before! A sad loss to Leeds, where he made so much music. I'm sure there will be more good obits in solid sources, given a few days. And I wonder whether the RFC will end up changing (for the better) a longstanding situation: very interesting. PamD 18:30, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for sharing! Can you please begin improving his article? - I'd like that tag to go, and the obit could be used for more than his death (while Bach Cantatas should eventually go to the external links). I plan to get him to main page standard tomorrow, - I almost gave up on that idea with just the short obit, but what you added was a game changer. - Today I want to focus of the last of Bach's chorale cantatas that needs improvements to be GA, composed for this Sunday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:15, 28 February 2025 (UTC)
story · music · places
Thank you so much for adding! I gave him a first run-through, taking more from the obit. I skipped some passages, such as about his influence on the young people with whom he worked, because I don't have enough language ability to paraphrase that while retaining the meaning. Could you? There's a sentence at the very end without ref, which I commented out because I nominated for RD, and lack of refs is the first thing they check ;) - Please check what I did, and feel free to modify and expand further. I'll turn to garden work and the cantata before thinking of a second round. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:10, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
He already got support. Thank you also for giving a few examples. Laurence Olivier is of particular interest to me because there was an RfC (and also because I was taken to AE for asking if really the principal editors should decide). Almost all recent composer's FAs also have an infobox: Carl Nielsen (2015), Osbert Parsley (2022), Robert Schumann (2024, had it before FAC), Kaikhosru Shapurji Sorabji (2020), Igor Stravinsky (2024), Artemy Vedel (2022). Discussions were also for Mozart, Mendelssohn, Wagner, Debussy and Mahler, - Mozart, Mandelssohn and Wagner received an infobox, Debussy and Mahler not. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:03, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
I got side-tracked onto the "Leeds Award" which SL got, which I hadn't heard of - found a list of recipients and the fact that Jimmy Savile was given it and it was posthumously rescinded and his name removed from the wall of fame in Leeds Civic Hall! Working on it and its recipients in my sandbox. And as yesterday was the 1st of the month I want to crack on with the month's contributions to WP:Women in Red. (And I ought to be sorting out paperwork, garden, housework... etc). Not to mention rehearsing and recording for Choir of the Earth (COTE) (hmm, that section needs an update - not least that it's now become part of Earth Choir Academy, which needs a mention and a redirect). PamD 15:12, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
I know the feeling. Wanted to ask for expanding the choir articles, but better keep my mouth shut. Nice to see him on the Main page. Also there today: Carmen turning 150, as the main page and my story tell you. I chose a 1962 concert of the Habanera, - enjoy! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:32, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
On Ravel's birthday, we also think of a conductor and five more composers ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:53, 7 March 2025 (UTC)
Today I could have written five stories off the main page, and chose Sofia Gubaidulina. I find the TFA also interesting, and two DYK, and a birthday OTD. How about you? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:21, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
I don't always look at the main page. Today spent a bit of time updating a couple of articles about US National Monuments which DT has decided to abolish. And found another example to include in my old favourite The Boy with the Leaking Boot which I created ages ago. And I ought to have been cleaning the house ahead of my book group meeting here in a couple of days, when I've got two very busy days lined up between now and then! PamD 22:39, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for sharing! - I had busy days on vacation, keep looking at places. Today: an opera, 100 years old OTD, on Bach's birthday. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:33, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
Today, 300 years of Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, BWV 1! We sang works for (mostly) double choir by Pachelbel, Johann Christoph Bach, Kuhnau/Bach, Gounod and Rheinberger! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:20, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

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Mandell Creighton

Hello Pam D, Can I enlist your help, please? Not wishing to start an editing dispute, over my recent fair additions to Mandell Creighton's article, mainly, the omission of his wife's image and the important project she founded in her husband's memory in Lillie Road, Fulham, i.e. "Bishop Creighton House", could you look and see if the recent 'trims' of my work are over-zealous, not to say proprietorial. In fact, they make me laugh. Nevertheless, your judgment in the matter would be appreciated when you have a moment. Many thanks, Po Mieczu (talk) 00:04, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

I've made a bit of a change, as a compromise between your version and the over-trimmed one, and a comment on the disappearance of the photo. The Lillie Road article could perhaps have a bit more about the settlement, rather than just a list entry and an image? PamD 08:49, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
Could I also recommend that you create a user page - even if it only contains a single full stop. There's a tendency for editors to see, perhaps even subliminally, "red linked editor = new / inexperienced / odd", and also I often edit on my phone and from there it is very difficult to see the contributions record of an editor without a user page, which I wanted to do to see your range of editing interests. (Mobile editing is a bit of a nightmare, but is convenient for me at some times of day). PamD 08:56, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for your helpful remarks and actions. I see, as doubtless you did, that these have been trimmed too! Hmm, certain psychological proclivities come to mind. I shall act on your suggestion around the full stop. Best wishes, Po Mieczu (talk) 19:26, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
I see signs of WP:OWNership, but I suppose that's inevitable if one is trying to get something to FA: it just looks as if FA criteria about elegant spacing etc are overweighing actual "is the reader likely to find this interesting or useful" criteria: I think the pic with his name for the house, and also the info showing that the charity is alive and well and an officially registered charity, are worthwhile, but I'm afraid I haven't the energy to fight further. PamD 23:31, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
Hello again. Like you, having lacked energy of late, I did not follow up your recommendation re User profile until now. I have made a start. Thanks, Po Mieczu (talk) 00:32, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
Back after a pause, on this Mum's Day and have ventured back onto the Mandell Creighton Talk page. I think there's an error in the infobox. I'm not an Anglican, but don't clergy have to be ordained before being consecrated bishop? In this case the consecration appears to be 1891 and the ordination in 1893. Maybe I have misunderstood something in the order of Church play. Btw thanks to you, I have expanded on the full stop on my own Talk Page and am now all in blue like a newish UK passport! Best wishes, Po Mieczu (talk) 17:37, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
@Po Mieczu Text of article shows ordination 1873, but I'll leave it to the article's apparent Owner to fix it: I see you've raised it on talk page. PamD 18:02, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
Precisely. Thank you for your eagle-eye. Po Mieczu (talk) 20:30, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Just wanted to thank you for explaining the importance of publication dates in citations recently. I've been diligent in following your advice there ever since. :) Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 20:34, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
@Clovermoss Thank you. I'm happy to help by explaining stuff: there's always something new to learn about editing! PamD 23:07, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

Article Review

Hello Pamd. Tawinan Anukoolprasert, Jiratchapong Srisang, Thasorn Klinnium, Polytechnic University, Dawei, if you happen to have some time, I would greatly appreciate it if you could kindly review the article and share your feedback. Your insights and valuable suggestions are highly respected and would contribute meaningfully to its improvement. Yuzy (talk) 04:03, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

@Yuzy Okkotsu1 The lead sentence and the infobox should tell us which country the uni is in. Please use the "trans-title" field to add an English version of your reference titles. There's a ref which has the wrong info as "first" and "last". PamD 05:34, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for your feedback. I have updated the article accordingly. Added the country name to both the lead sentence and the infobox, as per the guidelines. Included English translations for non-English source titles using the trans-title parameter. Corrected the first and last fields in the citations to accurately reflect the authors' names.Yuzy (talk) 06:17, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
I don't know which article you've updated, but Polytechnic University, Dawei still doesn't show the country or the English titles of the articles.
I have very little interest in actors of any nationality, and I have no idea whether any of those three are Notable in wikipedia terms. But looking at Jiratchapong Srisang I see he is referred to in the text as "Force" (which is mentioned as a nickname), "Jiratchapong", and "Force Jiratchapong", and the DEFAULTSORT for the article is "Srisang, Jiratchapong" although with other sortings for Thai categories. I don't know anything about Thai naming rules but this looks inconsistent: he should be written of in the article using one consistent version of his name, which for a British person would be their family name or surname. Again, that article didn't have translated titles of the non-English references.
But, really, I don't feel inclined to spend much more time on a group of actors of any nationality, and I don't think I'm going to do so. Happy Editing! PamD 07:57, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your detailed feedback, PamD.Yuzy (talk) 08:05, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
I noticed that you redirected the university to its previous name; I have reversed this, creating a new sourced stub about Polytechnic University, Dawei at that title, with redirects from the names of the two previous universities. Please expand the article with sourced information, and copyright-free images, but note that details of all the available courses are not needed in an encyclopedia article. Thanks. PamD 11:06, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
But on further consideration it seems that the commonly-used form of the name is Polytechnic University (Dawei), and I have moved the article to that name. PamD 11:38, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for the update, PamD. I understand the reasoning behind using Polytechnic University (Dawei) as the article title, and I agree that using the commonly recognized form makes sense. I’ll continue improving the article under the new title. Appreciate your guidance! Yuzy (talk) 11:41, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
@Yuzy Okkotsu1 Google translate suggests that the article in my.wiki has a couple of sources which might be useful as good sources to expand the article, but I don't read Burmese. Remember to give the English translation of the title of anything you use as a reference. PamD 12:04, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Thank you, PamD, for your comment. You're right some of the Burmese-language sources used in the article may contain useful information that could help expand or improve it. I will go through the sources and, where appropriate, provide English translations of the titles and summarize their content to support the article more clearly. If you have any suggestions on which parts need more sourcing or elaboration, I’d be happy to work on that as well. Yuzy (talk) 12:07, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
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