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Requesting neutral editor to review and resubmit due to potential COI. wiki — Preceding unsigned comment added by Milwaukee911 (talk • contribs)
You have submitted the draft for a review and it is pending. You are free to submit a draft for which you have a COI, that's one of the purposes of this process. 331dot (talk) 20:06, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks much! I understand it is allowed for me to continue editing. However, if I leave as is, without a neutral editor to review (and RESUBMIT), will not it pose a risk that Wikipedia WILL NOT therefore approve/accept the draft? Milwaukee911 (talk) 20:16, 18 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure I understand your question. You've submitted it, it will eventually be reviewed. The process is as follows
a draft is created
it is submitted by the creator
it appears in a category of drafts awaiting review, where volunteers pick drafts in no particular order to review. The draft may be continue to be edited even while pending review
the review is conducted
the reviewer either accepts the draft and places it in the encyclopedia, or declines it and leaves a reason why. If they feel the draft is hopeless, they will reject it, meaning it can't be submitted again.
If declined, the creator may edit it to address any concerns and resubmit it, returning the process to step 3
Please accept my apologies for any confusion. This is my first attempt toward contributing to Wikipedia, and I may be overly cautious. Let me explain:
When I first started to develop an article, I was informed the article’s subject matter can NOT be self-serving nor promoting so as to avoid Conflict of Interest. So if the subject matter was NOT about me, nor was I paid to write it, it was in compliance.
However, I was recently informed a Conflict of Interest would still be a concern if the subject matter was related to me (i.e. about MY FATHER). It is in fact about my father.
Hence, upon this realization, I don’t want to have the draft article rejected, and am seeking a neutral reviewer to continue the process, and especially, to RESUBMIT the draft article for acceptance into the Wikipedia portfolio.
That was the purpose of my help request. I don’t want Editors to be skeptical of my innocent intent in writing the draft. I fear if I can’t find a neutral reviewer who will also RESUBMIT the article, any perceived self-promotion and COI will sink my draft.
Can you assist providing direction where options exist to help find someone willing to review, and resubmit this matter?
The article, in my estimation, is a 95 percent solution, with only a minor addition efforts remaining.
So you're asking if you can find someone to take over the process of editing and resubmitting the draft, because you fear the reviewer will reject the draft due to you having a conflict of interest. Note that in this context "reviewer" is the person who evaluates the draft, not someone editing it.
You can ask- perhaps af the help desk- but the odds of finding someone else to do what you want to see done aren't good. Someone would need to be willing to take up the work and perhaps do research that they may not be equipped to do.
Merely having a conflict of interest is not a reason to decline or reject a draft in and of itself. As long as it appears you are making progess on the draft, a reviewer is unlikely to reject it. They may decline it- giving you the chance to resubmit it. I think your fears are unfounded. Just wait for the review of the draft before proceeding. 331dot (talk) 00:48, 19 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks much for the feedback--it slightly alleviated my concern about COI after all my work. I am just trying to remain upfront, and by all means am not embellishing nor propagating any self interest. The story is such a rare experience, so I want this history to just be educational.
Thanks much for your reassurance that my concern about COI maybe unfounded. I will continue to be upfront, and rest assure the final content will be accurate with no embellishments whatsoever!
If this article gets accepted by Wikipedia, how can the title be changed (either before or after acceptance) to be more reflective of the subject discussed? Specifically, can the title change from "Chaim Thau" to Charles "Chaim" Thau? Milwaukee911 (talk) 13:04, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Good Day Reviewers
This draft is being resubmitted after two prior rejections for non-neutral tone. The current version has been substantially rewritten to align with Wikipedia's neutrality policy.
Key improvements:
Neutralized tone and removed subjective/heroic phrasing
Added or improved citations from multiple independent, secondary, and reliable sources:
- The Forward (2025)
- Der Spiegel (2025)
- The Milwaukee Journal (1955, 2015)
- Dayton Daily News (2015)
- Freie Presse (2015)
- German public radio (WDR, 2025)
Coverage focuses on verifiable public activities, especially the Elbe River link-up
Hello, I’d like to request a reassessment of the article Charles Thau, currently rated as C-class.
The article has undergone substantial expansion and improvement, including:
Reliable, secondary sourcing from international and U.S. publications (e.g., *Freie Presse*, *Der Spiegel*, *The Forward*, *Military History Now*, *Milwaukee Journal*).
A well-organized structure with clear sectioning (Early life, Partisan activity, Red Army service, Postwar, Recognition).
Use of historical photographs with proper attribution.
Compliance with WP:NPOV and WP:V, with personal connection declared.
I believe the article now satisfies the six B-class criteria:
1. **Well-written:** Article is grammatically correct and professionally presented.
2. **Verifiable with no original research:** All major claims are supported by citations from verifiable sources.
3. **Broad in coverage:** Covers key aspects of Thau’s life and significance.
4. **Neutral:** Written from a neutral point of view, with COI declared.
5. **Stable:** No ongoing edit wars or significant content disputes.
6. **Illustrated:** Images are used appropriately and enhance the article.
@Milwaukee911: I made some slight amendments, especially with the unnecessary spacing between citations. On a side note, do we know his birth name? Was it Chaim? If so, it would be wise to place "born Chaim Thau" in bold in the bracket with the date as it is done so in other articles. Merangs (talk) 21:22, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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