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Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin 2025 Issue 1


MediaWiki message delivery 16:58, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

Question from Edward moore1234 (18:08, 27 January 2025)

I know you are a bot --Edward moore1234 (talk) 18:08, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

Edward moore1234, I am not a bot! I am a real, living person :)

Let me know if you have any questions, and I would be more than happy to answer them. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 18:11, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
you are a bot or a 40 year old person with good grammar Edward moore1234 (talk) 19:09, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

Question from Edward moore1234 (19:10, 27 January 2025)

what's 9 + 10 --Edward moore1234 (talk) 19:10, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

@Edward moore1234: The correct answer is 19; the meme answer is 21. But I'm here to answer questions about Wikipedia, not to prove I am not a robot. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 19:25, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
sorry but I don't need help Edward moore1234 (talk) 20:13, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

Tech News: 2025-05

MediaWiki message delivery 22:12, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

Category:Formerly missing people found dead

I'm not quite sure how WP:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 January 19#Category:Formerly missing people found dead could have been read as having consensus in support of merging. Even if you discounted Dimadick (who was a participant in the previous CfD) and Nayyn (who made the most substantial argument in the discussion)'s arguments as canvassed, the remaining !votes apart from the nominator were two keeps, one delete, and one merge. (Also, the consensus from the previous discussion was to delete one of the categories rather than merge, while the other was never CfDed, so the nominator referring to it as precedent for merging was incorrect.) --Paul_012 (talk) 23:39, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

If you are in to headcount (which is relevant), I count the nominator. If Dimadick is to be pinged as a participant in the old CfD, you need to ping the six(!) other participants in the discussion who all supported deletion. The delete is "per nom", which I read as a merge (that is what the nomination was, after all). Nor is an editor's personal opinion of what is to be considered important relevant (In my opinion, the distinction between missing person cases where the individual was found alive and those that were found dead is a very important one). Three supporters of merging who reference a guideline (WP:CATDEF) compared to two WP:ILIKEIT/"its important" (without backing that up with citations to reliable sources) is a clear merge. HouseBlaster (he/they) 23:52, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
I had to squint to find the CATDEF reference, which was made as an off-hand reply without any supporting arguments and wasn't even mentioned in the nomination. In any case, the CfD was such an ill-informed mess that I don't think re-listing it would help anything, so I won't request any further action here. I might however consider opening a new, clearer discussion based on the options presented in the much more substantial 2024 discussion. Thanks for your explanation. --Paul_012 (talk) 01:03, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Close of Category:RuPaul's Drag Race contestants

Regarding your close of Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 January 16#Category:RuPaul's Drag Race contestants, I think it would have been beneficial for this to be relisted to get some more eyes on this, especially seeing as the oppose !votes were active members of Wikipedia:WikiProject Drag Race so there might be some WP:BIAS there. Also, as a "no consensus" close, wouldn't that imply that there was no consensus to create these recently created categories in the first place? --woodensuperman 09:48, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello Woodensuperman! I'll start with your second comment, because that it easiest: from first principles that might be a good argument, but WP:NOCON is clear that deletion requires affirmative consensus (or WP:SILENCE, but that is obviously not applicable here). Articles taken to AFD during NPP are not deleted after a no consensus closure. Turning to the first part: I can and will relist the discussion, though members of a WikiProjects are not given less weight when assessing consensus. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 17:33, 27 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for relisting! I'd have thought that in the event of no consensus we should revert to the status quo, i.e. with the categories not having been created in the first place by the wikiproject as they were created so recently. Anyway, let's hope we see consensus with some fresh eyes. --woodensuperman 08:48, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

Feminism and Folklore 2025 starts soon

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Dear Wiki Community,

You are humbly invited to organize the Feminism and Folklore 2025 writing competition from February 1, 2025, to March 31, 2025 on your local Wikipedia. This year, Feminism and Folklore will focus on feminism, women's issues, and gender-focused topics for the project, with a Wiki Loves Folklore gender gap focus and a folk culture theme on Wikipedia.

You can help Wikipedia's coverage of folklore from your area by writing or improving articles about things like folk festivals, folk dances, folk music, women and queer folklore figures, folk game athletes, women in mythology, women warriors in folklore, witches and witch hunting, fairy tales, and more. Users can help create new articles, expand or translate from a generated list of suggested articles.

Organisers are requested to work on the following action items to sign up their communities for the project:

  1. Create a page for the contest on the local wiki.
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  5. Link the local page and the CampWiz link on the meta project page.

This year, the Wiki Loves Folklore Tech Team has introduced two new tools to enhance support for the campaign. These tools include the Article List Generator by Topic and CampWiz. The Article List Generator by Topic enables users to identify articles on the English Wikipedia that are not present in their native language Wikipedia. Users can customize their selection criteria, and the tool will present a table showcasing the missing articles along with suggested titles. Additionally, users have the option to download the list in both CSV and wikitable formats. Notably, the CampWiz tool will be employed for the project for the first time, empowering users to effectively host the project with a jury. Both tools are now available for use in the campaign. Click here to access these tools

Learn more about the contest and prizes on our project page. Feel free to contact us on our meta talk page or by email us if you need any assistance.

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Wiki Loves Folklore is back!

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Dear Wiki Community, You are humbly invited to participate in the Wiki Loves Folklore 2025 an international media contest organized on Wikimedia Commons to document folklore and intangible cultural heritage from different regions, including, folk creative activities and many more. It is held every year from the 1st till the 31st of March.

You can help in enriching the folklore documentation on Commons from your region by taking photos, audios, videos, and submitting them in this commons contest.

You can also organize a local contest in your country and support us in translating the project pages to help us spread the word in your native language.

Feel free to contact us on our project Talk page if you need any assistance.

Kind regards,

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Edit description help

Could I receive an explanation on the format of a part of an edit description that instantly refers to the section mentioned when said edit is viewed.

Ex: →top Executive20000 (talk) 22:11, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

Hello Executive20000! Those are an indication of which section of a page the edit was made within. They automatically show up when you click the "edit" link beside a section within a page or when you click "new topic" or "reply". Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 00:47, 30 January 2025 (UTC)
Thank you very much. Executive20000 (talk) 00:50, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. Thank you. Hi, letting you know about this since I mentioned your discussion with one of the users involved. Sarsenet (talk) 08:16, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!

Hey, HouseBlaster. I'd like to wish you a wonderful First Edit Day on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee!
Have a great day!
DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 07:41, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, DaniloDaysOfOurLives! HouseBlaster (he/they) 18:45, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Question from Tikaram Saud (14:23, 1 February 2025)

Tikaram Saud --Tikaram Saud (talk) 14:23, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Hello Tikaram Saud! Let me know if you have any questions about editing Wikipedia, and I would be more than happy to help :) HouseBlaster (he/they) 18:46, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

More queries about JJMC89 bot III

Hey, HouseBlaster,

I hope you are having a good weekend. I see you are active on the project tonight so I'm going to pose another question about JJMC89 bot III.

If you look at this page, you can see we have almost 500 empty categories right now. I know enough now to check their page history and see they are categories that were recently either part of a CFD or Speedy Rename and so they shouldn't be tagged as empty categories. But some of these CFD closures were days ago. Does it usually take JJMC89 bot III this long to recategorize all of the articles and categories after it has moved categories to a new title? Just wondering. Liz Read! Talk! 06:33, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

Hi Liz! Hope your weekend is going well, too. The categories are largely populated by templates, which JJMC89 bot III can't process. If you look at CAT:NESRC, you can see there are ~875 categories which need updating, which would fix most of what is in the toolforge report.
Aluxosm, would you be able to run your script? That should fix the problem. Thanks, HouseBlaster (he/they) 20:34, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

Reminder: first part of the annual UCoC review closes soon

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This is a reminder that the first phase of the annual review period for the Universal Code of Conduct and Enforcement Guidelines will be closing soon. You can make suggestions for changes through the end of day, 3 February 2025. This is the first step of several to be taken for the annual review. Read more information and find a conversation to join on the UCoC page on Meta. After review of the feedback, proposals for updated text will be published on Meta in March for another round of community review.

Please share this information with other members in your community wherever else might be appropriate.

-- In cooperation with the U4C, Keegan (WMF) (talk) 00:48, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

Tech News: 2025-06

MediaWiki message delivery 00:06, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Palestine category move cleanup

Hi HouseBlaster, I noticed that while Category:Bilateral relations of the State of Palestine was moved, its uses were not replaced. Can this be done via a bot? Would you also be able to move Category:Palestine–Ethiopia relations to Category:Ethiopia–Palestine relations, this is the standard order (already used for the main article Ethiopia–Palestine relations). Thanks, CMD (talk) 09:29, 4 February 2025 (UTC)

Chipmunkdavis, Category:Bilateral relations of the State of Palestine seems to have been sorted now? The bot moves the category first and then corrects uses, so there is always some "lag time" before all uses are corrected. As for Category:Palestine–Ethiopia relations, it has been proposed for speedy renaming and will be moved in a couple of days absent objection. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 19:15, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
Thanks! CMD (talk) 05:47, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – February 2025

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2025).

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Arbitration


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Question from 75s.bottman2 (21:02, 7 February 2025)

hi --75s.bottman2 (talk) 21:02, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

Question from 75s.bottman2 (21:02, 7 February 2025) (2)

I love engineering. --75s.bottman2 (talk) 21:02, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

Hi 75s.bottman2, and welcome to Wikipedia! If you want to contribute to engineering topics, you might want to join WikiProject Engineering. They maintain a list of "stub" articles which have to do with engineering which need expansion. Let me know if you need additional help! Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 21:31, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

Category merge

Hi HouseBlaster. I'm just wondering if you can provide a bit more detail on your rationale was for closing the merge discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 February 1#Category:International airports by country please? I'd challenge whether 3 comments (1 opposed, 1 supporting and one referring to a 14 year old discussion constitutes consensus). Consensus may change over time and it would be much better to base the decision on current views.

Unfortunately I was not aware that this discussion was even running until after it was closed, nor do I recall seeing it listed on relevant wikiprojects (although this may have happened and I missed it). I did review the 2011 discussion that was referenced. I note that there was some discussion at the time as to whether an International Airport was something that was just a name applied for marketing, or if there is an actual difference and a hierarchy (as per International_Airport#Naming). I also note that in Australia (one of the affected categories), Airports do have to be designated by the government as International gateways to call themselves International Airports. The merging of the categories has removed this distinction, which has been quite topical recently regarding slot limits and flight caps to certain airports.

Given the above, I think there has not been nearly enough discussion here to say there is clear consensus. Would you consider reviewing the decision with a view to relisting it and tagging with for WP:AVIATION to generate further discussion please? Dfadden (talk) 07:50, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

Hi Dfadden! So, I disagree with the way you counted heads: Marcocapelle and Aidan721 both supported the nomination, even if they used different bolded words to do so. 3–1 discussions generally required very strong arguments from the one dissenter to get to no consensus territory. The discussion was also advertised to WP:AVIATION (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/Article alerts#CfD), and referencing discussions in the past generally means something along the lines of I agree with both the consensus reached at the time and the rationale, not I agree that is precedent which can never be challenged in the future. That all being said, you wish to present additional arguments, so I am happy to reopen and relist. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 18:26, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Hi-- I too believe the lack of discussion is a huge problem at Categories for Discussion. Things are closed by bots with very little input. Sadly there seem to be very strong opinions there that lean towards closing categories and merging things. Its not very open to discussion. The environment appears to leave very few people willing to contribute there and take part in the conversations. I feel your pain @Dfadden Nayyn (talk) 20:19, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
I mean, I disagree with most of what you said (number of participants etc are a matter of perspective), but I will correct the factually error in your comment: A human is always the one to close the discussion, and review the arguments made; the bot merely implements the result of the discussion. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 21:08, 9 February 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for the relist. I have now provided a comment that includes supporting evidence of why arguments made in the previous discussions 14 years ago are not applicable to the proposed course of action. While you may not agree with the way I "counted heads", I would like to point out that per WP:XFD and WP:VOTE, deletion discussions are not a vote. Consensus is not based on a headcount alone, but by careful consideration of different perspectives and the strength of arguments considering evidence and wikipedia policy. I am sure you are aware of this and making decisions in good faith (it's a thankless task). But there is no rule that says these discussions have to be closed after 7 days if there haven't been any strong or compelling cases put forward. I think Nayyn's frustations also speak to rhe same point - well reasoned and thought out arguments can take time to articulate and it can be easy to miss the chance to contribute when they are closed so quickly. Anyway, thanks again for the relist and opportunity to throw in my 2c. Peace.Dfadden (talk) 07:34, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
Just some musings; reply if you wish, but no reply if expected :)
I do not think "Relist in the hopes of getting quality participation" is a sustainable strategy, and I doubt relisting would've caught your attention (I presume you saw the changes on your watchlist). I wish we had a better way to notify editors of articles of category changes, but we don't short of instructing a bot to notify the talk page of every proposed change to categories. I highly doubt such a bot would find consensus, but Wikipedia has been getting better at trying new things as of late. Who knows?
If you had said before I closed the discussion, "please give me a couple of days; I want to give an argument", I would have happily granted that request. You are also absolutely correct there is no rule that discussions need to be closed after seven days – sometimes they sit for months, usually because there has been a lot of discussion but very little agreement – but the standard thought process is that a week is the right balance between "the wiki way" (WP:BOLD, immediate action) and deliberating everything carefully (as is necessary when you need to exercise the ability to delete things).
Again, feel free to respond to all, none, or some of this. Merely wanted to share some of my thoughts on your own thoughts. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 09:26, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
I appreciate you taking the time to reply with your thoughts. You are absolutely correct about notification coming via my watchlist. It really is a bit of a wicked problem and I dont know of an easy solution. You may have given me a few days extra to make an argument, but then again, how would I have known you would be the one to close the discussion to ask for that in the first place? In any case, i feel the onus should be on the nominator to provide a detailed rationale and notify as many interested/involved parties as possible to generate quality discussion. Bots are an interesting idea. I'm not sure how feasible they would be here either?
What I do know is that many of us work full time and have life commitments off wiki. We are lucky if we get 1 day a week to dedicate our Wikipedia hobby. If I have multiple projects on the go it's easy to miss things, even when they are on relevant noticeboards, simply for lack of time to check. I take your point about balancing the bold against endless circular discussion. A line needs to be drawn somewhere, but I think 7 days is too short in most cases - WP:DEADLINE still applies to CfDs as it does to AfDs.
Thanks again for the reply! Dfadden (talk) 11:50, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

Tech News: 2025-07

MediaWiki message delivery 00:09, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Administrator recommendations

Is it possible for you to recommend me some administrators to contact at this time? This is due to numerous users adding copyvio photo(s) to the article, Scott Bessent, when there are zero images through Wikimedia of the subject that are in the public domain or display Creative Commons licenses.

Thanks, Executive20000 (talk) 03:00, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

In addition, I would have addressed this on the talk page of the article, but it will not allow me to create new topics on it. Executive20000 (talk) 03:02, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
Ok, I made a little oopsie there, because I didn’t even know that you were an administrator. Apologies. Executive20000 (talk) 03:10, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
@Executive20000: Don't worry about it! I don't advertise that fact one my talk page (though perhaps I should), so it makes sense you would miss it. Removing obvious copyvios is an exception to the three-revert rule, but make sure you cite that you are claiming an exemption. I have added a note visible only to page editors telling them not to add the image. I have also added the page to my watchlist, to monitor the page. Finally, if you ever need to find an active admin and I am not around, you can use this tool to find a recent active admin. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 03:25, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
Much thanks for this. Executive20000 (talk) 12:19, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Hello, HouseBlaster,

We seem to be running into problems with speedy renames. Like this category redirect was created by you but it was not supposed to be a category redirect, the target category was supposed to be moved to this category title. Same with Category:2025 events in Bangladesh by month which was supposed to be moved to Category:2025 in Bangladesh by month (I think) and instead this category is a redirect to back to this category with the CFD tag. Most of these problems seem to be cause by the CFD bot though. I've come across a lot of categories that were supposed to be moved and instead the bot or editors just created new categories without moving these pages so I've deleted the old categories but that's not the way it should be working.

Thanks for any help you can provide in CategoryWorld. Liz Read! Talk! 05:03, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

So generally the point of these redirects is to get things out out Special:WantedCategories (which only updates daily and has a hard cap of 5,000 pages) and into CAT:NESRC (which, obviously, has neither of those limitations!), while we wait the two days for a WP:CFDS to process. I suppose we could create a new template for this niche purpose which populates a third maintenance category, to be deleted per G6 when the move is ready to be made. The template would explain this to the passer-by so they know what exactly is happening with the category and an invitation to db-g6 it once the thing is ready to be overwritten. Is that a nice solution? HouseBlaster (he/they) 06:05, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
Could you check on Category:2025 events in Bangladesh by month and Category:1994 events in Bangladesh by month and the "not-empty" category redirects you created? Something is wrong here. THank you. Liz Read! Talk! 22:44, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
Due to the way {{Month events in country category header}} works, the contents were moved before the categories themselves were moved. The categories are due to be renamed once someone gets around to processing the CFDS nominations (two days have passed), at which point the the two categories you will no longer be empty. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 23:01, 11 February 2025 (UTC)
For always being so lovely and kind and a great Wikipedian! DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 16:19, 12 February 2025 (UTC)
Thank you so much, DaniloDaysOfOurLives! HouseBlaster (he/they) 16:57, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

Question from Swapnil Chanpuriya (14:12, 13 February 2025)

Hi there , I need to remove an incorrect photo of an Indian revolutionary and add a correct image of him, as a student of history , this issue bugs me significantly as people making popular videos about Tatya Tope use the incorrect wikipedia image of him. The image used in Tope's page is of Jwala Prasad (when he was arrested) and not of Tope, this should be corrected for solving the obvious confusion and in respect to the freedom fighters. This Incorrect Image has made it onto lectures and videos on the subject which is really bad and the sad part is it is an easily fixable blunder. --Swapnil Chanpuriya (talk) 14:12, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

Hi Swapnil Chanpuriya! It looks like the image at Tatya Tope claims to be a photo of "Tantya Tope". Do you have a higher quality image of Tatya Tope? Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 15:13, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

About Template:HCMMLS

Back in July, you were given the order to delete Template:HCMMLS because Jonesey95 said in the discussion that HCMC Metro had 1.5 lines so they didn't need line symbols. Now that we have them, can I bring back the aforementioned page? Huy1984 (talk) 15:31, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable – you have my blessing to recreate the template, as has already occurred ;) Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 15:34, 13 February 2025 (UTC)
Thanks. Huy1984 (talk) 15:41, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

A pie for you!

Thank you for deleted my useless categories (old news but still) - Nail123Real (talk) 15:33, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

Question from MSNRNK-613 (21:20, 14 February 2025)

I want to write about myself --MSNRNK-613 (talk) 21:20, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

You can't. See the guideline on writing an autobiography. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 23:30, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

Tech News: 2025-08

MediaWiki message delivery 21:14, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

Pls let me edit on Azerbaijan now :(

It's been three months. I have written and contributed mostly successfully to various different topics and also brought up my edits over 600. I ask you to now please let me edit on Azerbaijani topics again. I had two problems there when I unknowingly edited on Azerbaijani topics, I apologize for it again and promise to not repeat it. 🙏 Viceskeeni2 (talk) 21:52, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

It hasn't quite been three months (we have a couple more days until we have reached that point). However, I am setting that aside and treating this on its merits. I will review your contributions and get back to you shortly. I am inclined to grant the appeal and narrow your topic ban to only the conflict itself, but note that consistent non-neutral editing would mean we have to reinstate the full topic ban. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 22:19, 17 February 2025 (UTC)
@Viceskeeni2: Alright. Because it is a conditional unblock, you have to agree to this new topic ban. It permits you to edit Armenian and Azerbaijani topics, but you remain forbidden from talking about the relationship between those two countries. It is subject to a "trial" period: Any uninvolved administrator may reimpose the broader topic ban (under the contentious topic designation) if there are any issues with your editing, so be careful.

Viceskeeni2 (talk · contribs) is banned from editing topics related to the Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict, broadly construed. This ban supersedes their earlier conditional unblock and may not be appealed before 18 May 2025.

Do you accept this? Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 01:41, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
Yes Viceskeeni2 (talk) 06:04, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
Awesome. I have left a note at your talk page to make it official. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 06:35, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

No good deed goes unpunished

In case you could use some feedback or were second guessing anything, that message was fine. Floquenbeam (talk) 01:34, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

Thank you, Floq :) HouseBlaster (he/they) 01:44, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

Question from Qhamhi Ezekiel on List of demons in the Ars Goetia (06:15, 20 February 2025)

hello

i want to join --Qhamhi Ezekiel (talk) 06:15, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

Qhamhi Ezekiel, hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! You have already joined Wikipedia – Help:Getting started has some help for getting started. And I am more than happy to answer any questions you might have along the way :) HouseBlaster (he/they) 06:18, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

cfd

Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2025_February_8#Category:Fictional_burn_survivors

I noted in the discussion that Category:Burn survivors was also tagged for the nom, for similar reasons. - jc37 00:00, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

@Jc37: It seems I forgot to address that; thank you for pointing it out and apologies for my oversight. As that did not attract many comments, what if we created a fresh nomination only focused on Category:Burn survivors, and pinged Marcocapelle and Smasongarrison to the discussion? We already have clear consensus on the fictional version, and I don't think we should bring that category back. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 03:29, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
(Re-)listing Category:Burn survivors sounds good. And thank you : ) - jc37 03:44, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
Now at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 February 21#Category:Burn survivors. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 04:41, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
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Please self block my doppelganger

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Requesting self block of my doppelganger account as my auto-logout and auto-hide-everything are not enough. Also make sure to turn off account creation, talk page access, email but not autoblock. ~~2NumForIce (speak|edits) 22:28, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

Proof 2NumForlce (talk) 22:29, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
@2NumForIce:  Done; happy editing! HouseBlaster (he/they) 04:22, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

Question from PakeeWiki (19:22, 23 February 2025)

Hey mentor, this page's title is misspelled and I don't know how to change it or whether I'm allowed to change it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jain_Pei (Jian Pei*) --PakeeWiki (talk) 19:22, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

Hello, PakeeWiki! I have moved the page for you. For future reference, you can see the how-to at Help:How to move a page. Wikipedia:Moving a page has information about why you might move a page (obviously, typos in the title are a great reason to make a page move!). Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 21:13, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
Thanks! PakeeWiki (talk) 20:26, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

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Could you please help?

I have had extreme difficulty with an editor.

This is the talk page where you can see all the discussions here: Talk:Harla people#Relationship of the Harla to the Walasma and Their Origins. There is a RfC ongoing but I was told it is too long and unlikely to be resolved due to the expertise required.

I was also told that an RfC cannot be used for issues regarding the conduct of an editor.

This person appears to be an admin and using it against me a newbie. They've attacked me personally, accused me of peddling rubbish from random blogs instead of academic research. They revert literally anything I do even with the large amount of fully cited sources provided. They are not interested in engaging with the material presented and are not consistent at all accusing of me of things I have not done (that they have) and contradicting themselves sometimes in the same reply. Can you please help I just want a neutral third party with influence to see what's going on.

~~~~ Abcsomwiz (talk) 19:57, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

Hi Abcsomwiz! I am currently unable to deal with a dispute such as this one; I just had a surgery and am trying to do "easy" jobs. Would you be able to ask another admin? Apologies for the trouble. Best wishes, HouseBlaster (he/they) 20:12, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
Hi @HouseBlaster. I hope you're doing alright. That's not a problem. I very much appreciate the reply and hope you have a full recovery.
I have now just posted it on the DRN after seeing someone say it is 'canvassing' to ask an admin on their page. Is this true? Abcsomwiz (talk) 20:37, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
@Abcsomwiz: Looking at your contributions, you asked three admins and at ANI. Generally, you ask for help at one at a time. I wouldn't say it is canvassing, but it is WP:FORUMSHOPPING. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 20:39, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
I'll remove the posts on the admin pages. I saw it might be an issue only afterwards. Thank you once again :) Abcsomwiz (talk) 21:02, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
Of course, and apologies that I was unable to provide real help in this instance! HouseBlaster (he/they) 21:03, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

pblock

You made the pblock more harsh because you did not include the prior explanation and restrictions but made it unconditional indefinite pblock. That is not right. I hope you are open to discussing your actions with me. That would be preferred over of blocking and stonewalling as far as dialogue. Thank you.

I write this not to argue with you but to seek a better understanding of Wikipedia. At present, it seems like a very harsh place. ErrorCorrection1 (talk) 07:24, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

@ErrorCorrection1: Your original pblock was indefinite in the software. Due to software limitations, it was erased by the software when your temporary siteblock was instituted. I simply reinstated the original partial block. The same unblock conditions apply as before: Any admin is free to unblock if/when the election date is firmed up and/or this user shows a willingness to respect consensus-based decision-making). I am more than happy to discuss my actions further with you; I am about to head to bed so I can't get into an extended conversation with you at this instant. I bet by the end of discussion we would actually be in a position to lift the block. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 07:38, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

I would like to have a discussion over a few days to better understand Wikipedia. To me, there are pockets of Wikipedia where it's very harsh. If you are unwilling to have a discussion, please let me know. There are many little areas that I can think of you might be able to shed light on. One broad topic is consensus, of which there are many sub-topics to this concept. ErrorCorrection1 (talk) 04:31, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

I am happy to have a conversation with you, ErrorCorrection1. About consensus: it is something you could spend a lifetime studying. WP:CON is the policy which explains the topic in detail; that's the textbook. Our WP:PAGs are documentation of various pieces of consensus we have formed as a community over the years. What specifically do you want to know more about / do you have questions about specific parts of how that policy works? "Explain consensus" is difficult – that would be a great dissertation topic! But I am happy to answer more manageable questions. For instance, is there a particular part of the policy you find unclear? Or perhaps you are wondering how the consensus policy applies in a particular scenario? HouseBlaster (he/they) 05:03, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply. It is easy for an admin to block then end all consideration of the matter. It is more responsive to engage in dialogue and guidance, which you are doing.
I believe edit warring is a threat to consensus. However, I am a firm believer in disengagement, which I have done independently of the block. (If you require evidence of that, it can be tabulated into a report for you). While that can be seen in letting the others who edit war win, that is the nature of the Wikipedia beast.
I hesitate to bring up the above paragraph because Wikipedia can and has been weaponized by using that kind as discussion as a "personal attack" (by using making the accusation that the above paragraph is a "personal attack" then using the specious reason as an excuse for further blocking). It's not a fair system because I have been the subject of personal attacks.
There are numerous articles which hard working editors have made many edits but the broad presentation of the article has been overlooked. Article improvement in that regard is very useful for overall quality of the Wikipedia project. If I can make a contribution not only to factual error correction but to re-orient articles in a more encyclopedic direction, I would consider that success.
Would you be open to discussion over a specific article or two in terms of how Wikipedia policy and customs are applied as a teaching tool (and certainly not a call for you to do any administrative action)?
ErrorCorrection1 (talk) 19:24, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
@ErrorCorrection1: You are absolutely right that edit warring is the antithesis of consensus. I don't need evidence that you have disengaged from that sort of thing. In general, reverting the addition of information a single time is not edit warring. However, reinstating the removed content can be edit warring.
I would be open to a discussion over a specific article or two. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 19:31, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
This article is where 2 editors that I consider who edit aggressively was the first point of contact for me. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2025_Canadian_federal_election&diff=1277004561&oldid=1270413882
It is about the next Canadian federal election. I entered the article thinking that the main direction of the article's lede is not a good orientation. The lede with a detailed explanation of an election no later than October 2025 is good for the generic article written several years but no longer is a balanced presentation because the likelihood of such October election is very low based on all news reports of major Canadian and foreign news organization. Even the NDP which agreed to a confidence and supply agreement for the governing Liberal Party has torn it up and said they will overturn the government when they are allowed to convene. Despite fierce opposition from 2 editors (who complained to ANI) and despite me no longer working to improve the lede, the consensus was to remove this for a more balanced lede which has been stable for a few weeks. Conclusion: my eye for overall direction was validated by consensus.
What I did in January was when the 2 aggressive editors kept reverting my lede suggestions, I abandoned the attempt. I did try to suggest mentioning the article in the article (just not in the lede) but the 2 editors still went to ANI, resulting in my p-block. This separate editing disagreement was not explained by the 2 editors but characterized as one continuous conflict, which it was not.
Another point is that calling it a 2025 Canadian federal election is slightly presumptuous. It is more accurate to call it the 45th Canadian federal election (or parliamentary election) until the election is actually called and that year used for the title, but I cannot change Rome in a day or a century so it will have to be.
I view it as aggressive behaviour when an editor or two merely reverts and does not start a talk page discussion or start a RFC, but rather goes to ANI and a few weeks later goes to the p-block administrator complaining that I have not been blocked from the article AND the talk page despite not trying to edit in the talk page (which I am not p-block). Mentioning this is not a personal attack but a description of the aggressiveness of the 2 editors.
One reason that I would like p-block to be undone is because it remains a part of my permanent Wikipedia record. It is stating that I cannot be trusted to edit until after the election. I have already been commended by the p-blocking admin who is on extended leave but wrote "Now, I will grant that this was a wise thing to do. You were obviously very agitated during the incident that led to the block and walking away when it was issued actually surprised me, as I assumed you'd throw a fit, and it is to your credit that you did not.(23:53, 4 February 2025 (UTC) Beeblebrox)"
What I seek is for the punishment (and this blocking is punishment despite that blocking is supposed to be damage control, not punishment) to end. I do not seek a lot of further editing in that article. I am likely to provide overall direction to what I think will improvement the article and let other editors form consensus. However, I should not be shackled and be told "you can beg for changes in the talk page but are banned from making even the most minor grammatical correction from the main article".
I have no desire to make Wikipedia a battleground and realize some people are just aggressive. If unblocked, I might look at the Canadian article in a few days (certainly not today or tomorrow if unblocked) and might try to provide direction but no more than that. The original admin said that a condition of p-block unblock was ok in his opinion where "Any admin is free to unblock if/when the election date is firmed up and/or this user shows a willingness to respect consensus-based decision-making). I hereby express a willingness to respect consensus-based decision making.
I also might add that I would like to have further discussions with you to understand Wikipedia better but that these will likely be not so lengthy as the above. ErrorCorrection1 (talk) 22:08, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

@ErrorCorrection1: So the first thing I would advise you to do is follow the "no re-reverting" rule. It is not actually a rule you will find written down anywhere, but it is the approach I personally take when editing Wikipedia. If someone objects, go and have a discussion on the talk page. The burden to initiate discussion is on the person wanting to make a change – in this case, it was on you to start the discussion, which you did at Talk:2025 Canadian federal election#Lede's emphasis could be improved. I see people communicating there – but if you cannot persuade people to agree, you need to drop the stick and stop arguing. It is disruptive. Consensus can change, but continuing to beat a dead horse is a waste of time.

Regarding this edit, if discussion is ongoing about a particular point, you should not edit that part of the article (excepting minor edits like fixing typos). I fully believe that this block was necessary at the time to stop you from continuing to disrupt the article; whether it is still necessary, I am not sure.

I am also unsure what you mean by this block is a punishment. That is a pretty serious allegation – you are saying that your block is in violation of policy, after all – so I am curious if you have any evidence to support that claim. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 00:33, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

You asked "so I am curious if you have any evidence to support that claim" regarding punishment. Yes, I have. I do not intend to edit that article extensively and, when I do edit, it will be mostly to give direction to the gist of the article, which is a new approach. I also have stated clearly that I am willing to respect consensus-based decisions. Therefore, the main reason for continuing the p-block despite these assurances would be punishment. Besides, when the blocked editor makes good faith efforts and remains blocked, it is entirely reasonable for the editor to feel that it is punishment
I do not want to complain too much but the question was asked regarding punishment, so I answer it. Blocking to prevent disruption is how it's suppose to work. Does anyone have any evidence that disruption will occur? ErrorCorrection1 (talk) 03:11, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
@ErrorCorrection1: Right, you say that, but unfortunately we cannot read your mind to divine your intentions. You already were asked to go talk on the talk page and seek consensus, and while the discussion was ongoing you edit-warred in your preferred version. That is not acceptable behavior, and editing "to give direction to the gist of the article" is not the same thing as a commitment to avoid edit warring and bypassing discussion. Discussion is binding on everyone – whether they support the result of the discussion or not. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 03:33, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
Thank you for your comments. You don't have to read my mind. The blocking admin, who is on extended vacation, already wrote that he was surprised that I did not make a fit and did disengage to reflect on his administrative actions. Furthermore, I do NOT have a history of repeated blocks on that article or any other article. That is partly where WP:AGF assume good faith comes in.
I make this comment not as a personal attack but the 2 people who complain, one has been blocked many, many times. No other editor in that article had major disagreements with me. In fact, my idea was accepted in that the lede is no longer long paragraphs about the theoretical October 2025 deadline for an election. In that respect, consensus validated my ideas and went against the 2 editors that complained and went to ANI. Going to ANI is supposed to be for emergencies, according to the instructions. They did not even go to RFC, which I now am aware of.
You should be commended in maintaining a dialogue. Many admins are quick to block and not to discuss things with the readership. However, with that time commitment, re-blocking if there is bad behaviour is not difficult. I ask for that AGF in view of my intense reflection, commitment towards consensus. Please do not create lots of additional hoops to jump over. At some point, that creates a feeling of punishment. As for "commitment to avoid edit warring and bypassing discussion", I solemnly give that commitment and declare that I will act in that way.ErrorCorrection1 (talk) 16:38, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
@ErrorCorrection1: ANI is not necessarily for emergencies. It is for things where there are behavioral problems. Edit warring, not respecting consensus, and the like are problems. Even if consensus in the long run agreed with you, a fundamental principle on Wikipedia is that being "right" is not an excuse for bad behavior. You do have a history of being blocked. You were blocked twice; once for edit warring and once for personal attacks. Given your tenure on the project. Your above message is persuading me that you are still in the mindset of "well, the other editors are wrong and have a history of behaving badly, which justifies my behavior". That needs to change if you are going to be a productive editor on Wikipedia.
That being said, you have given the commitment we asked of you. Therefore, I am going to give Beeblebrox a couple of days to respond to this discussion; I am wiling to lift the block and extend some WP:ROPE. If he does not respond, I will lift the block per this discussion and especially your commitments. HouseBlaster (he/they) 20:38, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
If you unblock within a few days, I will report to you in a month. I will show you that I acted responsibly and that the unblock was the correct decision.
As far as your comment, that is not quite true. I do not believe "the other editors are wrong and have a history of behaving badly, which justifies my behavio(u)r". I do believe that "the other 2 editors are wrong and have a history of behaving badly, but I should have been wiser went they started acting badly" ErrorCorrection1 (talk) 00:22, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
It is currently 26 February. Your message was late on 24 February. In Wikipedia, often a few hours is considered awhile. Beetlebrox has declared that he is on a wikibreak. His last edit was 20 February, 6 days ago. Therefore, I ask that you unblock without waiting further. Thank you. ErrorCorrection1 (talk) 01:07, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
If Beeblebrox does not respond within 48 hours of my original message (i.e. ~20:38, 26 February 2025 UTC) I will unblock you. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 01:31, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
Thank you in advance for the unblock. It is 9 minutes away though I would not mind an earlier commutation. ErrorCorrection1 (talk) 20:29, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
Unblocked. Be careful, and best of luck. I am still here if you have any questions. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 20:46, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
Thank you. Your actions are much appreciated. In contrast, it reflects poorly on Wikipedia that 4 other administrators did nothing, not even a short response. The customers of Wikipedia may interpret this as very poor customer service. In fact, one administrator even went so far as to block me. Even you noted that I have been blocked twice. It was when I requested unblocking (un-p-block) that they blocked me. While I do not hold you responsible for the actions of others, that action was perplexing.
The offending edit (because it was the only edit to that admin's talk page) was this. .... https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Voorts&diff=prev&oldid=1276091568
The excuse for blocking was "personal attack". There is likely a reference to "GoodDay (who was been blocked multiple times) and Ivanvector reverted these changes without discussion." but writing "who has been blocked multiple times" is really not a sufficient personal attack to be blocked. If it were, then you would be blocked because you mentioned in this talk page about me being blocked.
The conclusion that I make is that there is variability among admins and that they are afforded great leeway. They can even act arbitrarily and capriciously with no recourse. I accept that as the nature of the Wikipedia beast even if those admins should do better. Fortunately, there is one admin like you. I hope that you don't block me for speaking candidly. I intend to tread lightly because of my new understanding of Wikipedia variability. ErrorCorrection1 (talk) 20:59, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

Some stroopwafels for you!

I just read that you are recovering from surgery. Oh, my! I hope everything went smoothly. Please take care of yourself and only log on for pleasant activities...disputes can be handled by others. I wish you a speedy recovery. Enjoy the waffles! Liz Read! Talk! 02:36, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
Thank you so much, Liz! It is a very routine surgery under local anesthesia, and I am recovering very well – much better than anticipated by the doctor! They said I'll be ready to resume some physical activity by the end of the week. And again, thank you so very much for the well wishes and waffles! :) HouseBlaster (he/they) 02:44, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
Surgery??!!!! There is no such thing as "minor" surgery. There is just "major" and "gigantic". Get well soon. ErrorCorrection1 (talk) 21:04, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
@ErrorCorrection1: Thank you for the kind words :) HouseBlaster (he/they) 22:30, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

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@HouseBlaster Hello!, through what must be a minor bug in the app, I saw that now, Talk Pages on EC topics get a new notice that says "Stop," consistent with a suggestion I'd made (and which you replied to) about a month ago. So that I might boast that I assisted Wikipedia, might you know of any connection? Johnadams11 (talk) 00:56, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

@Johnadams11: it was directly as a result of Template talk:Contentious topics/Arab-Israeli talk notice#Edit request 4 February 2025; see this comment from SilverLocust in the discussion :) Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 02:06, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
@HouseBlaster Thank you so much. Had I merely scrolled down I would have seen that. I thought the conversation had concluded. In any event, thank you for affirming. I'd be interested in knowing if it has any effect. Perhaps I'll consult with EC constables like sean.hoyland to learn if his beat has become any quieter! Thanks again. Johnadams11 (talk) 03:30, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

Further guidance

What if a change is properly discussed and a consensus seems to be reached. Then when an edit is made, another user reverts with no explanation or inaccurately comments in the edit summary "no consensus reached"? I suppose it's possible to think "Wikipedia is impossible, let the troublemaker win". What would you suggest?

Some possibilities might be to have a RFC, to further discuss in the talk page and then re-revert (though possibly written with a different emphasis to test the water). Should ANI be used? (I, personally, tend to think that ANI should be rarely used for this kind of problem).

I realize there is no one correct answer but any thoughts? ErrorCorrection1 (talk) 21:23, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

It really depends on the circumstances. We are all biased towards thinking our preferred position has consensus when it doesn't, so sometimes it helps to take a moment and consider whether the reverter is correct that no consensus has formed. Really. Take a moment and consider it. (Hint: if you decide there was consensus 100% of the time, you are doing it wrong.) Sometimes you can find a compromise; sometimes you should continue to talk with them. Anyone who has spent a good amount of time here is trying to improve the encyclopedia, just like you are. You have the same goal; you are on the same team. Wikipedia:Help button/Article content disputes has a great menu of options, one of which is an RfC. Others include a filing at the dispute resolution noticeboard, a more specific noticeboard (e.g. WP:NPOVN, WP:BLPN, etc.), or asking for more eyes from a related WikiProject. Continuing to edit the article is rarely productive; as you gain experience as an editor, you will learn when you can do this effectively. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 22:02, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
There are some people who seek confrontation so it is questionable whether everyone has the same goals and are on the same team. Fortunately, many people are not like that. Thank you for your additional ideas. ErrorCorrection1 (talk) 00:38, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

different question

What if there is a proposed beneficial (and logical) section in an article where a similar article has such section. However, a dissenting editor insists the proposed section must not appear but gives no rational explanation. There is one or two other occasional editors that agree that the proposed section makes sense. When the edit is then made, the dissenting editor reverts it immediately with no explanation or nothing that makes much logical sense. What is the community to do? In essence, give the lone dissenting editor veto power and defacto control of the article?

Some possibilities include entering a cordial dialogue with the dissenting editor but re-instating the new section, making some changes to water it down to (hopefully) appease the dissenting editor? Or entering a long bureaucratic process while the new section is held up and not displayed because of one editor?

This is not a rare hypothetical example because there are many articles in Wikipedia that are not really complete and could use an additional section. ErrorCorrection1 (talk) 00:09, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

The first thing to note is WP:ONUS, which formally says that the burden is on those seeking to include content to demonstrate consensus for its inclusion, should it be challenged. And I would challenge but gives no rational explanation. Are they giving no rational explanation, or an explanation with which you do not understand? If you can't come to a compromise, you should follow the steps I outlined above to resolve disputes. It is not letting a single person "veto" the community if you cannot demonstrate that the community agrees with you.

Making changes to the proposed addition in an effort to compromise is a great way forward. WP:TOOBIG is the formal guideline for when length alone determines when something should be excluded from a particular article, and most articles are nowhere near that threshold. This article is WP:PERFECT as is is never a sound argument. So usually editors ought to have a objection to the contents of a section, rather than the mere addition of additional content. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 02:05, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
Partly, it could be combative behaviour to try to veto any changes in an article.
That's a nice article that I didn't know about, WP:PERFECT. Thank you.
I asked you the above with an article in mind. The article talks about a scenario that happens about 20% of the time, but then adds that it's possible of the 80% scenario. I think it is better to say the 80% scenario but then add that it's possible of the 20% scenario. Though still in discussion, there is an editor who wants the 20% scenario first. That editor has been sanctioned by ArbCom and been blocked about 9 times in the past. That is in the record and not a personal attack. However, it might reflect combativeness. I hope that there is not combativeness anymore but we'll see. I might have to let them win.
ErrorCorrection1 (talk) 02:28, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
I am very disappointed with the mentality you are displaying here. I know exactly who you are talking about, and I have had my fair share of disagreements with them in the past (courtesy ping to GoodDay, because we are discussing you here). I could just as easily say you have been blocked for disruption at 2025 Canadian federal election and for personally attacking GoodDay. Is it true that GoodDay has had some behavioral problems in the past? Yes. Does that mean you are automatically in the right and able to present this issue as dealing with a vexatious editor with a rap sheet? Absolutely not. Unlike you, their sanction history has absolutely nothing to do Canadian elections. Stop bringing up their sanction history, and start considering them to be a colleague who is here in just as much good faith as you are. HouseBlaster (he/they) 02:40, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
Sorry for the disappointment but I am trying to figure out how to approach it if an editor merely reverts without any explanation or minimal explanation. ErrorCorrection1 (talk) 04:31, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
Appreciate the ping, HouseBlaster. PS - I've mostly chosen to be silent (these last few days), while you've been attempting to help ErrorCorrection1 in the area of getting along with others. GoodDay (talk) 02:48, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
Hello Good Day. So let's be constructive. If you have good ideas, please express them. Do not revert something without explanation and discussion unless you think it is about a minor universally accepted topic that needs no discussion. ErrorCorrection1 (talk) 04:15, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

Category Merging

Hello. Just asking what rationale actually led to the merging of my Scholars of Precolonial North Africa and Scholars of Precolonial West Africa category? There was not really any discussion on these topics, beyond initial posts and my responses. HiddenHistoryPedia (talk) 19:09, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

Hi HiddenHistoryPedia! I simply closed the discussion, which means I determined the consensus of the discussions. You'll notice that I did not close Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 February 19#Category:Scholars of Precolonial East Africa because no consensus (for merging or for keeping) has emerged.
As for the substantive reason: discussions on Wikipedia last a week, and after a week of discussion you were unable to persuade anyone to agree with your point of view. As a closer, I would be supervoting if I closed either discussion in any other way. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 19:18, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
With all due respect, there was no substantive discussion. A number of claims were made, I responded to those claims, and I received no responses to my statements. The discussion was repeatedly "relisted for further consideration", without any of its other participants showing apparent interest in such consideration. Similar, in fact, to the situation on the East Africa category which you have just shared. HiddenHistoryPedia (talk) 14:43, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
For reference, see the archived discussion. HiddenHistoryPedia (talk) 14:47, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
And this one for West Africa (apologies for the multiple disjointed replies). HiddenHistoryPedia (talk) 14:48, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
Neither discussion was relisted because clear consensus had in fact formed. Supporters are not required to rebut every argument made by the opposition (nor vice versa). If people are not persuaded by the points you made, and I say this will all due respect, that's how the cookie crumbles sometimes. We've all had some of our work deleted before; it is almost a rite of passage. That all being said, if you have additional arguments you would like to present, I would be happy to relist the discussion, but if you are unable to persuade people to agree with your perspective it will be merged again. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 18:11, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

Reply to House Blaster about Tatya Tope Incorrect Image edit

Thank you for your reply, the image shown in wikipedia is of 'Jwala Prasad' at the time of his arrest and tatya tope does not have a photograph of him available anywhere (to my knowledge, a photograph was never infact taken) but there are portraits/paintings/illustrations of Tatya Tope, and it is very easy and highly important to change Jwala Prasad's photograph with one of Tope's illustrations. I do have a few images although I am not sure about the pixel quality but they are very easy to find on the internet because it is common knowledge, the image shown in the wikipedia page is a source of uninvited confusion. How do I send you the images that I have? If not satisfactory please let me know, but making the change is extremely important because I have seen people using Prasad's photo as Tatya Tope because of this silly wikipedia error. (Tatya Tope is sometimes also written as Tantya Tope). Swapnil Chanpuriya (talk) 04:29, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

How do you know that the photo is actually of Jwala Prasad? The original source (not Wikipedia) describes the image as one of Tantia Topi. To submit new photos, you should email photosubmission@wikimedia.org, which is staffed by volunteers who specialize in this sort of work. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 04:38, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
thankyou for the follow up, I study indian history as a degree, and the identities and appearances of both Jwala Prasad and tatya tope are common knowledge here in India.
The original source is incorrect, a quick Google search can easily prove it
I can send you many examples of sources using the correct image of Tatya Tope, even my city has the statue of him which clearly shows his face.The fact is Tatya Tope was never photographed, but Jwala Prasad was after his arrest. The wikipedia image and the source is incorrect hence the confusion. Swapnil Chanpuriya (talk) 07:59, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
Unfortunately, Wikipedia policy does not consider you to be a reliable source. "Common knowledge" doesn't count; most Wikipedia readers are not from India (or any particular country!). I would encourage you to email the photosubmissions address I gave you. HouseBlaster (he/they) 18:15, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

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  • Non-administrators can now check which pages are able to be deleted using the Special:Nuke tool. T376378

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Growth Newsletter #33

18:59, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

RfD advice

Hi, and again, many thanks for your advice over at the Teahouse. Anyway, I've come across another RfD that I'm inclined to close, but I've decided to be more prudent, especially as it relates to Trump: Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 February 18#Build that wall. I see valid arguments being made by all sides: delete, keep, retarget, and disambiguate. As such, I'm inclined to close it as no consensus as I highly doubt that consensus could be established, especially with no further discussion since 23/2 and 2 previous relistings. Your input would be highly appreciated; of course, feel free to use my rationale to close it yourself as well. Happy Tuesday, it's lio! | talk | work 13:52, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

@HKLionel: I agree that this is a textbook no consensus close. There is also no reason for a no consensus retarget; it is not like the section Mexico–United States border wall § First Trump administration (2017–2021) is non-existent. Though take my opinion with a grain of salt; I am not a regular at RfD :) HouseBlaster (he/they) 20:23, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
Oh, right, keep forgetting you're more focused on CfD - my apologies, ha. Thanks a lot for your opinion. G'day, it's lio! | talk | work 22:54, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

Please explain.

Tristan made a suggestion up above, on January 21, for a concise edit describing the required date under the fixed-date provisions, along with a suggestion to move the rest of the detail about legal and constitutional requirements and the conditions for an earlier date to a body section. Three editors immediately agreed, and Mr Serjeant Buzfuz has just made the same suggestion again just above. That's five supporting the edit, one saying "do nothing", and one continuing to make suggestions for which no other editor has expressed any degree of support. You two can keep talking past each other; I'm making the edit. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:26, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

That is an incorrect conclusion of consensus, Ivanvector. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz made a suggestion. I support it in part. However, I bring up the fact that the second sentence phrases should be reversed because the most likely scenario is an early election, based on the past 20 previous election and the current circumstances. Neither Ivanvector, Mr. Serjeant Buzfuz, nor any of the 3 editors have disagreed. Even Ivanvector did not comment on that aspect (which covers quite a few paragraphs and is not hard to see) so I'm making the edit that does not conflict with the consensus, rather it adds a little logic but maintains the same few sentences. My edit complies with WP:BRD where Ivanvector was bold and I revert and discuss but my revert is very similar. Anyone want further discussion? If so, please continue. ErrorCorrection1 (talk) 18:54, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

I see that Kawnhr has maintained this latest edition but made a change in a link in the first paragraph. This is additional support that the lede in place 19:11, 3 March 2025 (UTC) is good. ErrorCorrection1 (talk) 19:11, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Well, not quite. I was simply in the middle of making that same edit to Ivanvector's wording when I found myself in an edit conflict, shrugged and carried it over to this new one. WP:EASTEREGG is something of a bugbear of mine, and my hope was that jumping in while other editors are paying attention would make it more likely that my edit be adopted by others, rather than simply waiting for the dust to settle (because who knows when that will be). I'm supportive of changes to the lede generally but don't have a strong opinion on which proposed wording is better. — Kawnhr (talk) 19:21, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

I still don't see the need for any changes, until the fed election date is set. Because the changes made now, will only be altered further when the date is known. But anyways. GoodDay (talk) 20:01, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

The wording we decide on might only be on this page for a short time, but presumably it will presumably be carried over to the page for the 47th election, as well as future provincial elections. — Kawnhr (talk) 21:07, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

The wording might be applicable for the next 100 years or more with minor modifications to past tense later this year and adding a sentence for the date. Therefore, predictions that it will be only for a short time may not come to pass unless even minor changes of tense are counted. ErrorCorrection1 (talk) 21:21, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

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This is the entirety of the talk page discussion. The change in the article was then done by Ivanvector. Please explain what he did right and I did wrong. I do not think I did wrong but am open to discussion.

It was Ivanvector who changed the article. I then supported the change but suggested that the second sentences two phrases be reversed in order. That's a really minor change. Another editor though it was ok. Ivanvector then went to ANI. ErrorCorrection1 (talk) 00:44, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

@ErrorCorrection1: with all respect, at some point you need to figure these things out for yourself. If you are going to demonstrate that my good faith was misplaced, I am not going to continue to help you. Harping on GoodDay and Ivanvector as disruptive contributors because they are happy with how the lead looks is disruptive, and raising essentially the same issue again so soon, right after you were unblocked, is also disruptive. Stop it. Drop the stick. I am not going to help you further, because if you can't realize that going right back to the talk page and requesting similar changes is going to be perceived negatively, I don't think I can help you. I will not be replying further unless you have a question about my administrator actions. HouseBlaster (he/they) 01:45, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
I had a small taste of communicating with this editor and I must say that you have demonstrated incredible patience in these exchanges, much more than I would have. Kudos to your administrator skills. They now have had TPA removed for the next 7 months. Liz Read! Talk! 23:56, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
Thank you, Liz :) I try to help the couple of editors who need a little help. Sometimes it works out wonderfully. Sometimes it doesn't work out, like here. But the few times it does work out make it worth it! HouseBlaster (he/they) 00:06, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

Blocked user's user page

Hi, HouseBlaster. I have deleted User:Heyaaaaalol in response to UTRS appeal #101026, but after I did so I saw that a few minutes earlier you had deleted the page and then had second thoughts and restored it. I did have doubts about deleting it, and thought quite hard before doing so, but I decided I couldn't see any reason why the page has to be kept. What are your thoughts on the matter? JBW (talk) 10:18, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi JBW! I went through exactly the same thought process. I only undeleted it because, realizing that it was not an obvious call (despite U1s usually being very obvious!), I was about to go to bed and I didn't want to be AWOL for a while after the deletion. I agree that it should stay deleted. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 17:51, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
OK, thanks for answering. I vaguely think I may have seen deletion requests declined in this situation, but there doesn't seem to be any policy against it. JBW (talk) 18:36, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

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Help with adding a photo to a new page?

Hi mentor! I'm working on this new page (Wild and Clear and Blue) and can't figure out how to lawfully add the album cover art. I am sure it is copyrighted and I don't know how to find the copyright information so I can upload it correctly. Can you walk me through how to do it? ChappellRoanFan (talk) 17:13, 9 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi! In cases like this, we are actually allowed to use copyrighted images under fair use. You can use the file upload wizard, which will let you go through the steps to add this photo. In particular, select This is a copyrighted, non-free work, but I believe it is Fair Use. You should then select This is the official cover art of a work., and then you will be able to fill out the required information. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 22:17, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
I did it! Thank you so much for the help. ChappellRoanFan (talk) 00:19, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi, this is in regard to your latest edit on the infobox of Ministry of Health and Family Welfare. While trying to standardize the infobox and its content, you have removed some information that explains the true nature of the organization. Not every organization is the same so as to reduce it to a standardized infobox. A real encyclopedia should aspire to provide information on the nuances and unique features, not confine it to a skeletal structure prepared from a standard format of some other organizations. The information you removed explains the true character and unique features of this ministry, and hence I request you to revert your edit. Do point out if there are any factual errors though. Leonardoofleaf (talk) 07:01, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi Leonardoofleaf! So in general, the purpose of an infobox is to give a very rough overview of the the content of the article, not to duplicate the text of the body. Every snowflake is unique, but the idea is to contain a rough overview of the process, not an intricate, detailed look at the agency. We absolutely can and should provide information on the nuances and unique features, but that belongs in the prose of the article, not in the infobox. See the linked guideline:

Barring the specific exceptions listed below, an article should remain complete with its infobox ignored. The less information that an infobox contains, the more effectively it serves its purpose, allowing readers to identify key facts at a glance.

Looking at the history of the article, it appears you removed the infobox template in favor of a custom solution. In the future, it would be very much appreciated if you could use {{infobox}} (the generic template) to do that sort of thing; there is an ongoing project to convert all uses of the infobox class to use the template. If really necessary, we can use {{infobox}} here, but again, I am skeptical that it is helpful to readers to deviate in this way. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 07:17, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
There is a correction in this infobox. There is no post of "Health Secretary" in Ministry of Health and Family Welfare. There are 2 departments and 2 secretaries under MoHFW. The Secretary of Department of Health and Family Welfare and Secretary of Depart of Health Research. Also there are 2 attached offices Dte.GHS and NHA. Directorate General of Health Services is headed by DGHS and NHA has a CEO. These 4 are the executive heads under Ministry of Health and Family Welfare. Leonardoofleaf (talk) 05:23, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
Acknowledging this; will respond tomorrow when I am more awake :) HouseBlaster (he/they) 05:46, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
@Leonardoofleaf: I am not sure I fully understand your comment. Are you saying that the line for Punya Salila Srivastava should be removed? Or modified? Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 22:11, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
Didn't you add this info to the infobox? I am saying the information is incorrect. There is no post of "Health Secretary". There is a secretary of "Department of Health and Family Welfare" and a secretary of "Department of Health Research".
This is why I wanted to add more information to the infobox. Otherwise it leads to biases and misinformation. The outline of the organisation (ministry of health and family welfare) will not be complete without mentioning all its executives(2 secretaries, the Director General of Health Services and CEO of National Health Authority).
What I want is to mention all 4 executives along with the agencies they are heading, just like I had done before your edit. Leonardoofleaf (talk) 02:45, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
I have added that information to the infobox. Does that address your concerns? Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 02:53, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
Thank you Leonardoofleaf (talk) 03:01, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

Hello, HouseBlaster,

It looks like this CFD was all handled by JJMC89 bot III except for Category:Event venues established in the 1630s. Can you take care of this remaining one? Thanks. Have a great week! Liz Read! Talk! 16:22, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi Liz! Of course;  Done. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 19:04, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

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Lone Star Funds

Hello HouseBlaster. Some two years ago, you helped implement some changes on John Grayken's BLP. I am reaching out now to ask for your help with adding some investment details to the Lone Star Funds article. While Lone Star has an extensive investment history, my suggestions focus on those companies that have wiki articles and strong supporting sources. I'd appreciate your input and assistance. Thank you, KD at LSF (talk) 10:01, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi KD at LSF! I try not to let editors with a COI from "editor-shopping" to seek me in particular, so I am going to decline to get involved here. Thank you for understanding, and my apologies. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 21:29, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

Empty categories

Hello, HouseBlaster,

If you run this toolforge link, you'll see about 100 empty categories. They were moved by bot through the speedy renames option at CFD but the contents of the categories were never moved over. Could you check on these? Thanks for any help you can supply. Liz Read! Talk! 17:03, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi Liz! It appears to have been sorted; there are now only five entries in the report. I'm guessing it was some jobqueue issues. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 19:07, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
One year!

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Wow, already? Thank you so much, Gerda Arendt – all the wikilove you spread is sincerely appreciated :) HouseBlaster (he/they) 19:08, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

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Question from DarkistDesires on User:DarkistDesires/sandbox (23:52, 19 March 2025)

Please help me write a new article on the band DarkistOfficial. Their YouTube is https://youtube.com/@darkistofficial?feature=shared --DarkistDesires (talk) 23:52, 19 March 2025 (UTC)

@DarkistDesires: First things first, we need to get your account renamed. It currently implies it is being shared by multiple people. You can request a rename at Special:GlobalRenameRequest. Next, it is highly unlikely the band is eligible for a Wikipedia article. Our criteria include things like Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart or Has won or been nominated for a major music award, such as a Grammy, Juno, Mercury, Choice or Grammis award. Looking at the entire list of criteria, does the band meet any of them? HouseBlaster (he/they) 00:03, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

Question from BonifaceOwori (21:07, 21 March 2025)

Hello sir Hope you're doing well today How do we cite the work --BonifaceOwori (talk) 21:07, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

Hello BonifaceOwori, and welcome to Wikipedia! You can see how to cite a source at Help:Referencing for beginners. If you are using the VisualEditor, you should use Help:Introduction to referencing with VisualEditor. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 21:10, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

Question from Kyrie Loves Dih (02:23, 22 March 2025)

Hello, How can i do my first edit, i find some misspellings in articles often, I would like to fix them. --Kyrie Loves Dih (talk) 02:23, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! Help:Getting started has some great advice for things you can do to get started. I would also highly recommend this YouTube video from Molly White. And if you encounter misspellings in articles, please just fix them! That's why we have an edit button :)
Let me know if you have any questions, and I would be more than happy to help! Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 02:36, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

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Question from Bootheblue (13:50, 22 March 2025)

Hello im bootheblue, My question is what is the sandbox possibly for?. just askin --Bootheblue (talk) 13:50, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

Hello Bootheblue, and welcome to Wikipedia! Your sandbox is for testing out editing. This could be to practice editing, to draft an article rewrite, or something similar. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 15:47, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

Question from QeedIsAWatermelon (16:27, 24 March 2025)

How do I add the title on a new article? --QeedIsAWatermelon (talk) 16:27, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

To create an article titled "example article", you should go to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Example_article, and start writing. This is easiest with the new article wizard. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 19:31, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

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Question from Sargamites on Critical mass (16:40, 23 March 2025)

How can I suggest an edit that would be reviewed before publication by other contributors to the specific page ? --Sargamites (talk) 16:40, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

Hello Sargamites! Usually, the advice on Wikipedia is to just make the change. That's actually an official rule around here :)
If there is reason to think your edit might be controversial, you should bring it up on the talk page. So, for critical mass, that would be talk:critical mass. (There should be a link at the top of each page which brings you to its talk page.) Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 20:19, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
Thank you, I will do that! 2600:1011:A011:A207:A8C9:EBEF:78FD:2C34 (talk) 00:44, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
You're welcome! A quick reminder to log in before editing – you just leaked you IP address. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 00:48, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

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Hello, HouseBlaster,

If you set up a big category rename like this, could you please have the bot leave a redirect when it renames categories? Otherwise, we end up with a great many broken redirects that we need to clean up. If this could happen also with Speedy renames, it would be appreciated. Category redirects are a bigger pain to clean up than article redirects. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 05:57, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi Liz! We generally don't keep category redirects as a short-term measure (see Wikipedia:Category redirects that should be kept#Issues with redirecting categories). I'm disinclined to start always leaving category redirects, but perhaps a solution would be creating the category redirects and then deleting them if it looks like template-generated categories are in use? Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 18:55, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

Question from BabyGirl010215 (13:13, 26 March 2025)

Hi Mentor, how do I find out if my suggested edits are showing already on the page? Is there a timeline on when the edits would show? --BabyGirl010215 (talk) 13:13, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi BabyGirl010215, and welcome to Wikipedia! Suggested edits should show up immediately after clicking publish. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 18:56, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
How do I add an infobox or a photo for biography? BabyGirl010215 (talk) 08:04, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
@BabyGirl010215: infoboxes are templates, so you should follow the instruction at Help:VisualEditor § Editing templates. The names of infobox templates always start with "Infobox", so you would search for something like "Infobox person". To insert an image, you can follow the instructions at Help:Introduction to images with VisualEditor. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 18:45, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

My Email.

1. I am not a "younger" editor, I have ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder), As you may or may not know, that is classified as a "Social Disorder", therefore making me unable to communicate the same way others do. So I have problems with social interactions as my disability makes it harder to interact normally… I'm not born in 2013….

2. I made that post as a college activity for a mock government inside, we are doing a mock election for 2048, we are pretending to advertise as a government official, and see which our member base likes most, so that article is classified as "School Work", we used fake names as we thought it'd be harder to recognize fellow members…

If you have any other questions regarding this matter, please reach out. Please don't assume someone's age because of their social life and articles. They may suffer from a disability or do the work for school… Next time please contact me without making assumptions and please don't believe I am younger than most, I classify it as offensive… Valorrr (talk) 04:44, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hi there, Valorrr! As you get more familiar with how Wikipedia works, I recommend keeping in mind one of Wikipedia's behavioural guidelines: assume good faith. I understand it can sometimes be easy to assume people are trying to be rude; however, especially in a situation like this, it's valuable to presume that HouseBlaster was acting in good faith to potentially protect a minor based on the information they found rather than jumping to the conclusion that they're bullying you. Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 07:52, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Question from Wedidntstarthefire on Draft:Convention of Olso (21:33, 29 March 2025)

How do I create subheadings, ie “history” --Wedidntstarthefire (talk) 21:33, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Hello Wedidntstarthefire, and welcome to Wikipedia! Love your username and the song :)
To create a subheading, you put a double equals sign before and after the word you want to call the subheading. So a subheading call "History" would be ==History==. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 21:51, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
Thanks Wedidntstarthefire (talk) 21:55, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Question from 61castrillio (09:02, 30 March 2025)

How do I write a citation for a special person . --61castrillio (talk) 09:02, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

I am not sure what you mean, 61castrillio? If you want to write a citation, you can check out Help:Referencing for beginners. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 15:27, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

Find categories

Hi Houseblaster. I am attempting to rename all categories of the form Category:Category-Class 20th Century Studios articles of NA-importance to Category:Category-Class 20th Century Studios pages of NA-importance in line with other category moves. Please see the CfD nomination. Would you be able to help me to produce a comprehensive list of such categories so I can add them all to the nomination? Thanks — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 18:59, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

To expand on the above, the possible formats are:
I don't know if all of these forms actually exist, but I don't believe there are any others out there — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:04, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
Of course! Let me see what I can cobble together using WP:PETSCAN. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 21:02, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

@MSGJ: These are all the categories with case-insensitive "importance" in their title, and are subcategories of subcategories of subcategories of Category:Articles by quality. (For instance, Category:Category-Class 20th Century Studios articles of NA-importance is a subcategory of Category:Category-Class 20th Century Studios pages, which is in Category:Category-Class pages, which is in Category:Articles by quality). There are only 320 of them, so a much smaller job than the original article->page moves. Unless there are bonus ones which are oddly not in the tree, this should be all of them.

While we are at it, we should probably consider if some of these could be deleted: As I am sure you are aware, many (most? all?) WikiProjects consider all of these pages to be of NA importance, so the other importance level categories are unused and the NA category is redundant to the vanilla, importance-less category. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 21:19, 30 March 2025 (UTC)

The categories
Many thanks for that. There was a discussion that decided that drafts and redirects could be assessed for importance (as they are potential future articles) but all others will be NA-importance. In which case, you are totally correct, they are redundant — Preceding unsigned comment added by MSGJ (talkcontribs) 08:40, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Question from Shmigley (22:46, 26 March 2025)

Hi HouseBlaster, I hope you're doing well.

I work in a biomedical research lab. Started thinking about contrinuting to wikipedia as I thought about making a page for a specific lab technique that's growing in usefulness and popularity. Recently, I've had the persisting idea that it would be helpful for students, trainees, and members of the public to have access to a wikipedia page that lists and connects ideas, fields, and techniques in biomedical research. To that end, I thought I'd create a template page, seeing as no similar one exists yet. I tried that, attempt (that I believe didn't work, not sure why...) linked here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Biomedical_research

However, on further thought, I think this project may be better suited by a portal page, as that would allow for multiple different subsections to be created and featured on one page. This is based on reading portals like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Philosophy.

On the other hand, I don't want to bite off more than I can chew! Would appreciate your advice on what you think would be a good way to approach this, and how to tackle this step-by-step.

The ideal, long-term goal here would be to involve others I know in my and other fields of biomedical research, and perhaps translate to other languages too.

Thanks so much! --Shmigley (talk) 22:46, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

Hi Shmigley, and welcome to Wikipedia! I am not a subject-matter expert on biomedical research, so excuse this beginner question: Is there a distinction between "medical research" and "biomedical research"? Our article is titled medical research, and seems to use them as synonyms. The answer will substantially change the advice I have, but I do have some initial thoughts which apply regarldess of the (lack of a) distinction between the two terms.

I don't think a portal is the right way forward. Portals are generally for more broad concepts, take a lot of work to maintain, and are generally viewed by fewer people than sidebars. Sidebars, on the other hand, live directly in related articles and are seen by more people. Your attempt at making a sidebar worked, though you haven't added it to related articles. (That does not happen automatically.) You can view the official rules for navigation templates (like sidebars) at Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and navigation templates § Navigation templates.

One final thing: Wikipedia's titles use sentence case rather than title case. (The first letter of a Wikipedia title is case insensitive on Wikipedia; the rest is case sensitive.) So, for example, in the sidebar you linked to Biomedical Research, which is a medical journal, rather than biomedical research, which redirects to medical research. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 00:26, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
Hi HouseBlaster, thanks so much for the detailed reply and advice!
I would definitely say that there is a distinction between medical and biomedical research. While it's up to interpretation, but there are numerous techniques and fields that fit the purview of biomedical research, but are not medical or even medically relevant yet. CRISPR, for instance, is not a medical research technology or technique and was not discovered or developed with the express intention of serving the field of medicine, but definitely fits within the purview of biomedical research. That, to me, is the big distinction - the term "biomedical" widens the range of works that are part of this project.
Thank you for your help! Will get to adding the sidebar to related articles. Shmigley (talk) 19:10, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
Awesome. Before working on the sidebar, I have a couple more questions. I just want to make sure that a sidebar is truly the best way forward :)
The next thing we would need to check is whether biomedical research is distinct enough from medical research to have its own article. If two topics are so deeply intertwined, we often cover them in the same article. As some examples, Bonnie and Clyde were American gangsters during the Great Depression. Their lives follow much of the same story, so we cover them in the same article. Sine and cosine are in the same article, too, even though they are not interchangeable (and a student better not mix them up on a test!). And the Wright brothers are also in a single article. Wikipedia:Notability § Whether to create standalone pages is the official guideline explaining whether it is best to create a new page.
That was a lot of words to say: do you think biomedical research should be its own article, separate from medical research, even though they are not synonyms? Or, alternatively, do you think renaming the medical research article to "biomedical research" and covering them both there would make more sense? Best regards, HouseBlaster (he/they) 21:55, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
That is a great point!
I think it would make the most sense to have both still exist on one page. Renaming medical research to "biomedical research" and covering + distinguishing between the two terms would make things most accessible for readers in my view.
I'd then like to implement the sidebar to link as a "series on biomedical research" which would link to the newly re-named "biomedical research" page. The category:biomedical research will link to fields, concepts, and techniques within that purview, and the template:biomedical research would be used either to also link between those things like the category, or (better option in my opinion) to create the sidebar to be attached to existing articles.
What are your thoughts?
Thank you! Shmigley (talk) 15:24, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
@Shmigley: I think you should first get the article moved. To do this, we need to file a move request. You can see the instructions for doing so at Wikipedia:Requested moves#Requesting a single page move, and make sure you don't change the closing double curly braces. Make sure you cite some sources which indicate that biomedical research is the more broad term, so it makes sense to cover the topic under the title biomedical research. Of course, peer-reviewed articles discussing the difference are best, but anything which is reliable will do, including reputable news media. (To a layperson, it would sound like "biomedical" research is actually the subtopic.) Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 22:33, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

Categories for discussion

Hi, was just wondering why these 2 haven't been closed, as discussion has now lasted over 7 days? Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2025_March_18#Category:Albanian_endocrinologists , Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2025_March_18#Category:Jordanian_female_discus_throwers. By the way, thanks for your good work in closing CfDs. LibStar (talk) 23:43, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

I had a bunch of other things on my plate the last couple of weeks, so I had to scale back my CFD closing activities. I hope to resume them in earnest soon. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 23:46, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
No problems. LibStar (talk) 23:48, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

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Hello sir how do I move my work to space --BonifaceOwori (talk) 21:24, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi! I've made some formatting changes. To request that an experienced editor review the page and move it if it is ready, place {{subst:submit}} (including the double curly braces) at the very top of the draft. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 23:52, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

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First, welcome back. There was getting to be a bit of a backlog. I started wading in and closing discussions to help out a bit. But obviously your automated tools are faster than me doing every step manually lol.

Second, I think it might have been missed, but there were 2 "keeps" (including me) in that discussion. Does that change your read of the discussion? - jc37 07:10, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

It does. I will relist the discussion so a potential rename can be discussed. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 15:46, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for closing this CfD. Category:Filipino pulmonologists was not closed. LibStar (talk) 09:38, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

 Done. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 15:53, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

in your closing rationale, can you please note that the exemption for the consensus against redirect categories is for when a clear maintenance process is established? Two other merge voters agreed on this, and P&G allows redirect categories. ミラP@Miraclepine 14:02, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi Miraclepine! My reading of consensus was that we shouldn't create redirect categories while implementing the result of the discussion, not a prohibition on their eventual creation. That's what I meant by ... to facilitate the manual merge in the close. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 15:58, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
Okay, thanks. Needed some extra clarification just in case. ミラP@Miraclepine 16:09, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

Template:Cfd top

Hi, please see User talk:AnomieBOT#CFDClerk: Template:Cfd top is broken - fixed. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 09:05, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I didn't realize that even adding a parameter would break things. @Anomie: Apologies for the hassle, and thank you for quickly updating the bot to accept the alias :) HouseBlaster (he/they) 15:53, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
No problem. AnomieBOT's post on its talk page wasn't intended to say you did anything wrong, just that you did something that the bot didn't know how to deal with. It's specifically so I can fix it instead of the bot just mysteriously not doing its job. Anomie 16:14, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

Barnstar

Thank you very much for all closures of CfD discussions of the past year. But especially your work in the last two days was very impressive, reducing the backlog from close to 200 discussions to almost 0! Marcocapelle (talk) 06:48, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

The Category Barnstar
For all the hard work you do regarding categories.
I also mentioned it above, but I'll still second the motion : ) - jc37 07:56, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
Thank you so much, @Jc37 and Marcocapelle! I do my best :) HouseBlaster (he/they) 17:43, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

I would have opposed this renaming. Military books in Latin are not at all limited to ancient Rome. Srnec (talk) 20:03, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

@Srnec: That is a reasonable objection; I will relist the discussion so you can participate. (This takes a moment at CFD: We have to make sure the bot is not going to reinstate the close, and the only way to do that is to wait about an hour after removing the listing from WP:CFDW.) Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 21:44, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

Question from Yoko Spunge (15:28, 6 April 2025)

Hi Houseblaster! I manage a band by the name of Slaughter & the Dogs™️and the page should read Slaughter and the Dogs™️ as written on all our Trademarks which I can provide for you, if requested. I’ve been battling with an overzealous fan that has been editing the page with incorrect information for years, and I have the individual’s email as he has sent horrific and defaming emails to both myself and my husband Wayne Barrett-McGrath, the creator and trademarked owner of the band on who’s behalf I manage all things for the band from booking shows, to filing legal petitions and Trademarks and handling royalties and false merchandise. Is there anyway you can help me with this individual, and other Wikipedia editors have made similar complaints about his mental stability and “changing of the past” which defames and degrades Wikipedia and the facts. I have nothing but the best intentions and to keep the facts, THE FACTS and not make up stories. Any help or advice you can offer, would be GREATLY APPRECIATED! I thank you kindly in advance for reading my message. And I am not new to editing-I have another name but lost the information , so figured it was easier to start fresh.

Kindly Yours, Erin Custer Manager of Slaughter and the Dogs ™️ AKA Yoko Spunge --Yoko Spunge (talk) 15:28, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi Yoko Spunge, and welcome to Wikipedia! I would first direct you to the conflict of interest guide, which will explain how to edit with a conflict of interest. In particular, you also need to disclose that you are being paid to edit. You also should disclose the username of the account you used previously to comply with our policy concerning multiple accounts. Finally, instead of editing the article directly, you should make edit requests on the talk page, where a neutral editor will look at them.
With that out of the way, let's turn to the substance of what you say: per our guideline on writing about trademarked terms, we do not use the ™️ mark. We do not follow the stylization of trademarks used by their owners. I would also caution you against talking about the mental stability of any editors, and note that we have a very strict policy against making legal threats. You either get to resolve your disputes on Wikipedia or via the court system. Next, I would recommend you not imply other editors are mentally unstable. Rather than jumping to reverting, I would recommend you open a civil dialogue at Talk:Slaughter & the Dogs. There you can discuss with the person what changes you object to. They are required to act in good faith to make improvements. Finally, Wikipedia is open to editing by everyone. You do not have any authority to "authorize" anyone to edit the page about the band. You can also see our policy about the ownership of content. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 17:43, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
Hi Houseblaster!
Thank you so much for all of the information. Regarding my old account, can you recommend how I could find it as I don't remember the username or password? If I can retrieve it, would I then ask you to delete this current account? As mentioned in my previous message, I have a court order and am resolving the defamation and slandering issues via the legal system. Thank you again for all the information, and also any help on recouperating my original account and where I go from there would be very helpful!
Thank you again for everything!
Kindly Yours,
Erin Custer
Yoko Spunge 2001:861:201:D970:AC55:B81D:3B5B:B96A (talk) 17:57, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
By "information", I thought you meant you forgot the password. If you also forgot the username, then there is nothing that can be recovered. If you are resolving your disputes via the legal system, that is your choice. Because you are choosing to persue legal action against a contributor for their Wikipedia-related work, I am blocking your account until you either permenantly and unconditionally withdraw the litiation or the legal action concludes. Note that the block applies to you as a person. You may not create a new account while you are blocked, and you may not edit without logging in. You also may not ask anyone to edit on your behalf. See your talk page for your appeal rights. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 18:04, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
Judging by the COI notices at the above-linked Talk:Slaughter & the Dogs, one was almost certainly Theoriginallawoman (talk · contribs). The article history shows that it has been edited by a large number of IPs; some of which use edit summaries containing giveaway words like "trademark" and "legal". User talk:Jetboy21 is also of interest. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:26, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for the note, Redrose :) HouseBlaster (he/they) 22:01, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

Question from VENKATESHWAR GLOBALSCHOOL (03:07, 7 April 2025)

how do i create a wikipedia page in my school's name --VENKATESHWAR GLOBALSCHOOL (talk) 03:07, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

@VENKATESHWAR GLOBALSCHOOL: Welcome! Creating a new article from scratch is extremely challenging, and new editors are strongly recommended to spend a few months learning how Wikipedia works, by making improvements to some of our existing seven million articles before trying it. When you do decide to have a go at a new article, you are highly encouraged to read WP:Your first article. If you haven't already also check out WP:TUTORIAL; it's a lot of fun! Happy editing! HouseBlaster (he/they) 04:02, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

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