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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 16:51, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

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2023 EFL League Two play-off final

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  • Source: [1] - Carlisle beat Stockport (2023); [2] - Carlisle relegated to National League (2025); [3] - Stockport failed to be promoted to the Championship so are now continuing to play in League One (2025)
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Oslo Study
  • Comment: I was hoping to add the extra nugget that Stockport were still seeking promotion to the Championship, had they won their match against Leyton Orient, but that wasn't to be. It's still an interesting fact (I think) that since Carlisle's win they have gone right down, while Stockport have gone up
5x expanded by Amakuru (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 17 past nominations.

 — Amakuru (talk) 22:10, 16 May 2025 (UTC).

  • May or may not review this, but I don't see how the hook is interesting to non-association football fans, particularly those not well-versed in English soccer. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:08, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
@Amakuru: Looking at the article, the fact that stands out the most to me is that Carlisle's manager Paul Stockton's son Jake was part of the coaching staff for their opponents Stockport. Maybe you can propose a hook based on that? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:15, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
Haven't heard back from Amakuru so proposing these suggestions:
ALT1 ... that during the 2023 EFL League Two play-off final, Paul Stockton managed Carlisle, while his son Jake was part of the coaching staff for their opponents Stockport County?
ALT2 ... that manager Paul Stockton and his son Jake were part of opposing teams' coaching staff during the 2023 EFL League Two play-off final?
How do these sound? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:26, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
Some additional suggestions from Toadspike (ALT3/ALT4) and Bremps (ALT5) respectively on Discord (slightly modified):
ALT3 ... that after winning the 2023 EFL League Two play-off final, Carlisle United were relegated twice in two years?
ALT4 ... that the 2023 EFL League Two play-off final saw a father-son duo on opposing coaching sides?
ALT5 ... that the 2023 EFL League Two play-off final featured the Simpsons?
Thoughts on the above? Given the issues with the original hook I've struck it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:59, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
@Narutolovehinata5: apologies I'm away for a few days and likely to be only on patchily. I'd be fine with any of these suggestions, thanks for looking into this. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 11:31, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
Thank you. Also striking ALT1 and ALT2 as superseded by the other suggestions. Full review needed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:21, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good. Nice work. Preference for ALT3 or 4; ALT5 feels too misleading. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:10, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

FWIW, I have a slight preference for ALT4 as I think that it's less reliant on being an association football fan compared to ALT3. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:03, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
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