Talk:Push 2 Start

Music Video

The remix video of Push 2 Start, released on the fourth of March, in YouTube, please put a section for it on the article, if anyone if willing.

Thanks very much Dissainkabi (talk) 12:42, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

GA review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Push 2 Start/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Dxneo (talk · contribs) 10:47, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 10:20, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):

   b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a. (reference section):

   b. (citations to reliable sources):

   c. (OR):

   d. (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a. (major aspects):

   b. (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):

   b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

This will start today and may run into tomorrow at the latest. --K. Peake 10:20, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

Infobox and lead

• Infobox should list October 18, 2024 as the release date per this being when the song was released as a single
• "It was also serviced" → "The song was also serviced" which should mention the United Kingdom release instead of Italy since that came first

For some reason, BBC isn't fit for release history. I saw this somewhere on WP:Music archived discussions. dxneo (talk) 14:09, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

This is used as a source for a release date though, so if that is the case why is it kept for there but not the lead? --K. Peake 14:09, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

• "as it explores themes of" → "exploring themes of"
• The lead is somewhat disordered; the frequencies should be the sentence after the initial release and the cover + remix should be the very last of the lead altogether

Listing multiple dates in the same paragraph can be somewhat confusing, I was once told to be careful of that on PR. dxneo (talk) 14:09, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

My point still stands; this is disordered in terms of the information. --K. Peake 14:09, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

 Done dxneo (talk) 14:28, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

• The Bubbling Under Hot 100 position should be removed

 Done dxneo (talk) 14:09, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

• "artist to bag" → "artist to attain" to be more encyclopaedic

 Done dxneo (talk) 14:09, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

• Add more chart positions to the lead as Hot 100 is only one; dedicate another sentence to certifications too

Nice. dxneo (talk) 14:09, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Background and release

• "on her socials" → "on her social media"
• The writers and producers are not mentioned by the source
• "it was released" → "the song was released"
• The United Kingdom date is not shown as 18 October, also what usage does [6] have at the end of the sentence?
• "It impacted the" → "The song impacted the"
• Mention the cover being a mashup with PartyNextDoor's "For Certain" for context

Fixed them to the most of my abilities. "the song" is really discouraged at FA/FAC/FLC, I really think you should pass by sometimes. dxneo (talk) 18:58, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Composition and live performances

• Retitle to Composition since the live performances can go elsewhere
• "and Mocha, it was" → "and Mocha, the song was"
• Remove overly obvious wikilink on guitar
• "It is a blend of" → ""Push 2 Start" is a blend of" starting a new paragraph here
• "She explores issues of" → "Tyla explores issues of"but the source does not mention these analogies referring to cars specifically

ECR states that "Pushing on my buttons with no hesitation / Gas me up, give me motivation / So tell me where we going, pick a destination," she sings in the song. and The South African says In the song, she uses car metaphors to explore themes of attraction and commitment. She delivers lines that create a sultry atmosphere. dxneo (talk) 19:02, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

• Remove overly obvious wikilink on lyrics
• Move the live performances to being a new para in the music video section instead
• Remove overly obvious wikilink on New York City
• "United Kingdom on 10 November," → "UK on 10 November,"
• Mention when the homecoming tour was
• Img looks good!

All  Done dxneo (talk) 19:02, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Commercial performance

• This is the only form of reception listed; are you not able to find any reviews to add critics' opinions too?

Honestly can't find any, wanna help? dxneo (talk) 19:04, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

• "In the United States, "Push 2 Start"" → "In the US, "Push 2 Start"" per MOS:US
• "to bag multiple" → "to score multiple" to be more encyclopaedic
• Remove comma before Miriam Makeba
• "It also peaked at number 2 on the" → "It also peaked at number 2 on the US"
• The source points to week 4, not 3, of 2025
• "peaked number 23 on" → "peaked at number 23 on"
• "and 105 in Portugal." → "and number 105 in Portugal."
• "It was certified gold" → "The song was certified gold"

All  Done dxneo (talk) 19:04, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

dxneo You still need to change to number 105 and the week from the source is 4, not 3 here. --K. Peake 20:06, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

You didn't make it easy for me, that's why I couldn't fix it in time. Otherwise, I'm done and thank you so much for this. I look forward to working with you in the future. Although it looks like we both not that active anymore. dxneo (talk) 23:19, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

dxneo Thanks a lot, same to you and I've been less active as working full time! --K. Peake 07:15, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

Music video

• Retitle to Music video and live performances then move those here as the last para
• Replace the comma with a semi-colon on img text, also add a full-stop at the very end
• "leading the United States citizens to" ·=→ "leading American fans to" since the source specifies it was fans of Tyla's
• The midnight time is not sourced

There's a tweet embedded in the source which says SAST, which is UTC+02:00 (for clarity, incase one doesn't know what South Africa Standard Time is). dxneo (talk) 19:12, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

• You need to add a source confirming the comparison to "Crazy in Love"

 Done dxneo (talk) 19:12, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Personnel

• Good

Charts

• Good

Certifications

• Good

Release history

• Format → Format(s)
• Label → Label(s)

Sean Paul remix

• You should add background about what Sean Paul contributes to this remix, also remove the accolades sub section because that is one table

Footnote

• Remove this altogether

References

• Copyvio score looks pretty good at 31.5%
• Cite Entertainment Tonight as work/website instead on ref 1
• Fix MOS:QWQ issues with refs 2, 3, 10, 14, 56, 60 and 76
• Fix MOS:CAPS issues with refs 7 and 62
• I do not see any evidence of refs 15 and 27 being reliable; fix MOS:QWQ or MOS:CAPS issues if you can justify these being kept
• Cite Showmax as publisher instead on ref 22
• Cite OkayAfrica as publisher instead on ref 29
• Ref 57 should either Briefly.co.za or MSN, which would only be publisher
• Cite News24 as publisher instead on ref 80

Hello mate, any reason why I should switch from website to publisher? dxneo (talk) 19:22, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

These sources should not be italicised, as they are in current state. --K. Peake 14:09, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

I dont think so. There's a reason why there's {{cite web}}, {{cite magazine}} and {{cite news}}. Take this source for an example, the website is News24 and the publisher is You, or this source where News24 is still the website, but City Press is the publisher. There's a guideline directed at this specific matter. dxneo (talk) 14:28, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

External links

• Move the lyric video to the infobox instead; see "All Mine" for how

"All Mine" doesn't have a music video, "Push 2 Start" does. dxneo (talk) 19:19, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

You can add mv and lyric vid to infobox; see "Follow God". --K. Peake 14:09, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

Final comments and verdict

•  On hold until all of the issues are fixed; done in the evening over here in the UK! --K. Peake 20:31, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

• dxneo I have left responses above where issues still need to be fixed. --K. Peake 14:09, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

  Kyle Peake, I think I'm done here. Any more issues I have to address? dxneo (talk) 14:30, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

• ✓ Pass now, looks complete! --K. Peake 07:15, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

Peer review

Push 2 Start

Just got to GA, aiming for FA. dxneo (talk) 12:27, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

I've added this peer review to the FAC sidebar. Tarlby ^{(t) (c)} 19:30, 1 May 2025 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cielquiparle talk 15:15, 26 May 2025 (UTC)

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Tyla during her homecoming tour in South Africa.

• ... that Tyla (pictured) received her first directorial credit for the "Push 2 Start" remix music video? Source: Rolling Stone (archived): — and it’s the first time she is credited as a director of her own video.
  • ALT1: ... that Tyla (pictured) became the second female African artist to score multiple solo entries on the Billboard Hot 100 with "Push 2 Start"?
  • ALT2: ... that Tyla (pictured) faced backlash for announcing the music video for "Push 2 Start", which coincided with the 2024 U.S. presidential election?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Helen Kendall

Improved to Good Article status by Dxneo (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

dxneo (talk) 14:37, 7 May 2025 (UTC).

• The primary issue with this nomination progressing is that the review on Template:Did you know nominations/Helen Kendall is incomplete. I would encourage you to close that review (which has been languishing for a bit now). However, we can review the other elements of this nomination. The nomination is new enough to the GA status, long enough, and appropriately sourced. The hooks' facts are sourced and appropriately cited. They are also also interesting enough, though ALT1 runs afoul of of DYK trying to reduce how many achievements are qualified based on gender. I have to completely reject the photo for DYK and would even say that it ought to be removed from the article: it does not suitably illustrate the subject (fails to show Tyla's face). ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:35, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

Image has been removed from the article. dxneo (talk) 06:23, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

There is an incredibly minor discrepancy in the verbiage of the source for ALT0 in saying that this is the first time she has been credited as a director on her own music video, but I could not find evidence that this discounts the accuracy of the article or hook. The fair use rationale for the music video image looks good. Nice work! ~ Pbritti (talk) 12:36, 15 May 2025 (UTC)