Talk:Lightning–Panthers rivalry

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@Sbaio: You said they're not needed? Why not? It's pretty obvious that the most essential information to any playoff matchup is what the teams were, the season it was played in, who won and in how many games, and which round of the playoffs the matchup took place. The other big 4 sports' rivalry pages all include which round a playoff matchup took place (see for example, Heat–Magic rivalry, Dodgers–Padres rivalry, or Bears–Packers rivalry). Soulbust (talk) 08:28, 23 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox has that information and prose also has it. In addition, those game-by-game tables fail WP:NOTSTATS so they should be removed. – sbaio 02:58, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Those articles also have tables detailing the games and season-by-season series for each rivalry. It makes sense that this article should have something like that too. However, I'm not opposed to fixing the table to clean up certain unnecessary things. Might I suggest a table similar to the one we have on Dodgers-Padres? Perhaps a RfC could clear things up. Mk8mlyb (talk) 17:18, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Mk8mlyb: Those other pages have season-by-season results tables, because one editor added them and nobody bothered to remove them. None of NHL pages have such table, because WP:NHL actually cares for quality and exclude any unnecessary decorations, and this specific page should not be any different. – sbaio 02:41, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think an annual summary is fine, while removing the game-by-game minutiae. Also consider MOS:COLLAPSE (e.g. Dodgers–Padres rivalry § Season-by-season results):

Moreover, content in an article should never be collapsed by default. This applies equally to content in footnotes, tables, and embedded lists, image galleries, and image captions.

Remove the clutter, and the need for collapsing goes away. "Notes" should be in the prose, or limited to a one-liner at best. —Bagumba (talk) 04:27, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Could we at least keep the game-by-game stats for the postseason results? It would make the article fresh and unique. Mk8mlyb (talk) 07:36, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'd suggest a table that links to the respective playoff page, e.g. 2024 Stanley Cup playoffs, and then show the series result e.g. "Florida Panthers (4–1)", and include the round. —Bagumba (talk) 09:43, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ironically, I had recently started a similar discussion at the NBA project. My view is that these should be removed as violations of WP:NOTSTATS, especially if their function can be supplanted by an external link. Left guide (talk) 02:59, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What link? I haven't seen any links that could provide the information detailed on the current table. The closest I've seen is Hockey Reference, but I'm not sure. At the very least, the postseason table provides nice information. Mk8mlyb (talk) 04:13, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

NHL has extensive statistics database (probably the best among four major sports leagues) so everything can be seen there. – sbaio 04:51, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You mean the NHL's official website? Mk8mlyb (talk) 05:04, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lol "unnecessary decorations". Alright. I feel like when we're editing on here we sometimes forget about the actual casual, everyday reader on Wikipedia to which color-coded tables are useful for. Having a visual component to the article (aside from the wordmarks at the top of the infobox and the single image currently in the prose) is good to have. I echo @Mk8mlyb:'s sentiments on the Dodgers-Padres article, which provides probably the best example of a season-by-season summary done right. Yeah we probably don't need every game result like what was previously listed, but a season-by-season summary is useful, particularly for the playoffs. And it's not really clutter if organized properly. Soulbust (talk) 15:00, 23 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]