Talk:Here Will I Nest

Here Will I Nest is currently a Film good article nominee. Nominated by Jon698 (talk) at 22:34, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

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A fact from Here Will I Nest appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 19 July 2025 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Here Will I Nest was the first dramatic Canadian feature film to be shot in colour, and the first film adaptation of a Canadian play?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2025/July. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Here Will I Nest.

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 13:46, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Here Will I Nest was the first dramatic Canadian feature film shot in colour and the first film adaption of a Canadian play?

Source: Pages 3 and 20 Stage-Bound: Feature Film Adaptations of Canadian and Québécois Drama by André Loiselle

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/White Marc Bouwer dress of Angelina Jolie
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5x expanded by Jon698 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 98 past nominations.

Jon698 (talk) 18:22, 2 June 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith Interesting:

QPQ: - ~~Awaiting QPQs~~ Done.
Overall: @Jon698: Article is new enough (freed from redirect on 6/3) and long enough. Hook is interesting, though I'll have to AGF on its source since I don't have 165 bucks to spend on the book. (I probably have access through the Wikipedia Library, though...) 2 QPQs are needed since DYK is in backlog mode again, but other than that, this nomination is good to go. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 08:13, 3 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@CanonNi: QPQ done. Jon698 (talk) 04:15, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Approved. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 04:19, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Jon698 and CanonNi: Two issues here. Firstly, superlative hooks are discouraged per WP:DYKHOOK, and so I must ask for something else. Secondly, AGF approval is deprecated per WP:DYKCITE, and so whatever hook you propose, I must ask for a quote from the source.--Laun chba ller 16:09, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Launchballer: Per page 3: "In 1942, Melbrun E. Turner's Here Will I Nest, the first motion picture adaptation of a Candian play, had its premiere in London, Ontario."
Per page 20: "The film version of the play, also known as Talbot of Canada, was directed by Melbrun E. Turner in 1940 and is most notable, according to Peter Morris, "as the first Canadian dramatic feature in colour" (Morris, Embattled Shadows, 187)."
BTW what do you mean by superlative? Jon698 (talk) 16:42, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Things like "first/biggest/most".--Laun chba ller 16:45, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Being the first fictional colour film in Canadian film seems important and far different from stuff like "first (insert group)" articles. Jon698 (talk) 16:50, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If a different hook is needed then how about "... that only 15 minutes, without the original audio, of Canada's first dramatic colour film Here Will I Nest survive? Jon698 (talk) 16:54, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Launchballer, per WP:DYKHOOK, superlative hooks are discouraged unless they are cited to "sourcing that discusses the set in some detail". Do you think the provided source doesn't meet that criterion? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:14, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I withdraw my objection.--Laun chba ller 12:19, 1 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Important note for future

Although the article is short, it contains almost all known information about the film. See Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/How Brown Saw the Baseball Game/archive2 for another lost film. Jon698 (talk) 22:23, 2 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]