Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2025 May 23
- Template:Pullbox (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Header template that's not really used anywhere other than Help:Your first article. Could easily be replaced by plain HTML. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 15:08, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Comment: I replaced the template with the HTML code on Help:Your first article ApexParagon (talk) 21:12, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: unnecessary template. Vestrian24Bio 08:44, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 01:18, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
- Template:Calm (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
I struggle to believe that this template has made any talk page discussions more civil. All it does is to clutter up talk pages and cause banner blindness. There is already a link to WP:Dispute resolution in {{Talk header}}. The banner also comes across patronizing to me; as User:InedibleHulk put it: That dove pisses me off
. Ca talk to me! 03:27, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, the bullet points on the side of Template:Talk header make this largely redundant. The talk banner template already mentions “being polite”, “avoiding personal attacks”, and “seeking dispute resolution”, which is all of the things that the “Calm” banner covers.
- (“Be patient when solving issues” is implied with the guidelines of being civil and being welcoming to newcomers.) ApexParagon (talk) 21:31, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Weak keep. This is useful in topics where {{ct/tn}} doesn't apply. It serves as a content warning to sensitive editors that the discussion has already devolved into being angry and uncivil. 174.138.213.2 (talk) 21:47, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per ApexParagon. I remember seeing this for the first time and thinking "isn't this already covered in the talk header?" I've come to ignore it now for that reason. Serves a purpose already covered by the talk header, and 174's opinion doesn't convince me. mwwv converse∫edits 01:24, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per those who !vote the same way above. Polygnotus (talk) 03:53, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Weak keep. I think this template does a good job of emphasizing civility, although I have no real data behind that assessment. Precisely because of banner blindness I think editors are unlikely to read the aforementioned advice about civility on the Talk header template, so this template can make that noticeable (although less so when there's already a ton of Talk page templates, as is often the case for large articles). I for one had forgotten the civility advice on the Talk header template (but in any case I'm unlikely to get heated in discussions :P). In addition, I think the tone of the text is good, not patronizing. The Sophocrat (talk) 06:40, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: seems extra-redundant to {{Talk header}}. Vestrian24Bio 08:43, 26 May 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per ApexParagon. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 10:28, 27 May 2025 (UTC)