Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Ochaco Uraraka/archive2

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was archived by Z. Patterson via FACBot (talk) 3 July 2025 [1].

Ochaco Uraraka

Nominator(s): Z. Patterson (talk) 00:59, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This article encompasses the conception, appearances, and reception of the My Hero Academia character Ochaco Uraraka. The conception details her voice actresses and characterisation. The article details the appearances of the character in My Hero Academia, its spin-offs, crossover promotions, and merchandise pieces. Reception has generally been positive.

Beginning with the first featured article candidacy, SchroCat and Gog the Mild disagreed with my initial belief about the article's readiness for featured article candidacy, based on what I saw in the quality assessment instructions. I addressed the deficiencies they pointed out. SamuelLovesFilms has significantly helped me edit the article. Mox Eden and Moritoriko of the Guild of Copy Editors helped copy edit this article between the initial FAC and the first peer review. Tintor2 reviewed the article for both the first peer review and the good article nomination. I made the changes that he suggested. During its time as a good article, I and SamuelLovesFilms did most of the polishing on the article. Jaguar addressed some areas in the second peer review, and I obliged.

I would like to thank these editors for their assistance and guidance, and I would like to thank Masem for the mentorship. Z. Patterson (talk) 00:59, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Image review

Absolutely adore her! Here'll be my comments. :) Arconning (talk) 09:12, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

File:Ochako Uraraka.png - Fair use
File:Ochaco Uraraka concept sketch.jpg - Fair use
File:Sakura Ayane from "PSYCHO-PASS Sinners of the System Case.1 & Case.2" at Opening Ceremony of the Tokyo International Film Festival 2018 (45568231662).jpg - CC BY 2.0
File:Luci Christian Photo Op Animate! Columbus 2024.jpg - CC BY 2.0
File:Ochaco Uraraka.jpg - Fair use
File:FF36 DSC6072.jpg - CC BY-SA 2.0, a cosplay template should probably be added to the original file. Commons:Template:Cosplay
All of the images have proper licensing and have proper captioning.

@Arconning: I added the template to File:FF36 DSC6072.jpg at commons:Special:Diff/1049297132. Z. Patterson (talk) 19:50, 26 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pass per image review. Arconning (talk) 10:39, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Airship

Sorry, but I'm going to have to oppose this nomination on prose. I think SchroCat's judgement that the article is too in-universe from the first nomination remains valid to an extent, but there are also other issues:

"Kōhei Horikoshi, the author of the manga series Oumagadoki Zoo and My Hero Academia, aimed to create a world where most characters have quirks, the name given to superpowers in the My Hero Academia universe. This is just confusing. The first implication is that the world he aimed to create is neither Oumagadoki Zoo and My Hero Academia. The second implication is that the conception of "quirks"="superpowers" came before his conception of "a world with superpowers", which I guess is technically possible but doesn't make much sense.
- Done. Z. Patterson (talk) 20:43, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"Originally, he intended to create the character who would become Ochaco Uraraka as Yu Takeyama or Mt. Lady as well as her quirk, but the author thought it would have made her too powerful." Do you mean he "intended to name" the character, or combine the characters, or what? "As well as her quirk" is not intelligible in English. "the author thought it would have made her too powerful" why? Do you think the reader should magically know what the Mt. Lady/Yu Takeyama quirk is?
- Done. Z. Patterson (talk) 20:37, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"Sakura was happy to have received the role of Ochaco and said her desire to portray Ochaco was strong." clunky—why attribute only the second half when the first can only come from her as well?
- Done. Z. Patterson (talk) 20:37, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
" In another interview, Sakura thought Ochaco was a character with a strong core in the first season, and when Ochaco entered UA High School, she was not experienced in actual combat. Sakura said that as Ochaco faced her increasingly shining and growing path, people could appeal to her handling things piling up in her path." I don't know what any of this is referring to. Core? UA High School? Shining and growing path? What?
- I think I made the sentence less awkward. Z. Patterson (talk) 21:51, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"She thought part of Ochaco's core did not change, but she wondered if the experiences would show in her behaviour." The words are English, but the meaning is not there.
- I took care of this. I discovered that more accurately, it would be her self-confidence that would manifest in her behaviour. Z. Patterson (talk) 20:56, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"She also regarded Ochaco as a hero instead of a heroine, particularly in the first season." There is no difference in English besides gender. This feels like a mistranslation or something.
- I removed this sentence. Z. Patterson (talk) 20:56, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"during the production of the fifth season, there was tension that led up to the sixth season" ... wow! really! amazing! no seriously, what does this mean???
- I attempted to improve the readability and accuracy of the statement based on what appears in the source. Z. Patterson (talk) 21:38, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Three paragraphs into the body and I'm already seriously confused. I don't know what copyediting or reviewing has been done, but it would have been useful if it had focused on making the article readable. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:27, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@AirshipJungleman29: I am addressing these deficiencies and will update each bullet point as that bullet point is done. Z. Patterson (talk) 20:38, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@AirshipJungleman29: I addressed the bullet points you laid out. I have also made some other edits. Z. Patterson (talk) 21:59, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Points unaddressed sufficiently:

"become Ochaco Uraraka as Yu Takeyama or Mt. Lady. Because Mt. Lady's quirk allows her to change size, the author thought it would have made her too powerful." first part does not make sense, second part assumes in-universe knowledge.

"In another interview, Sakura thought Ochaco was a character with a strong core in the first season" still not intelligible. Same goes for " thought part of Ochaco's core would not change".

"Sakura said that as Ochaco grew, people could appeal to her handling more things." this simply does not make sense.

We have entered a WP:FIXLOOP, and I haven't looked at more than three paragraphs. I suggest you withdraw this nomination and take some time to work on it further. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:05, 2 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@AirshipJungleman29: I understand now. I plan to resign this nomination, copyedit the article for phrasing similar to these, and request a peer review from someone, or a group of users, who is not in Wikipedia:WikiProject Anime and manga, and who are not the reviewers of the previous two peer reviews.

Closing note: This candidate has been archived, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Z. Patterson (talk) 03:32, 3 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.