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Rugby union
[edit]- Past Sharks squads (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NLIST and WP:GNG. We don't keep lists like this. Readers who may be interested in previous players can see historic players at List of Sharks (rugby union) players, transfer lists for URC and Super Rugby competitions and season pages. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 13:04, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Lists of people, Rugby union, Sportspeople and South Africa. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 13:26, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
- Not opposed to merging this with the List of Sharks (rugby union) players, subject to resolution of the distinction of Currie Cup vs URC players, as if those players - who meet notability requirements - are excluded then List of Sharks (rugby union) players is incomplete. Whybeetoo (talk) 11:04, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- This would be dependent on the outcome of the discussion on the WikiProject. I'd be opposed to full squad boxes but if we can find information on Currie Cup players (which I found incredibly difficult in creating this list) then can be added in another section if consensus reached. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 17:53, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 02:05, 22 June 2025 (UTC)
- 2008 NERFU college men's Division III rugby tournament (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I am unable to find sufficient coverage of this event to warrant a standalone article. PROD was contested in favor of a redirect or merge to New England Rugby Football Union. JTtheOG (talk) 19:35, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Rugby union and New York. JTtheOG (talk) 19:35, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 23:06, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
- @JTtheOG, since you brought this to AfD, I assume you're opposed to merge and redirect WP:ATDs. Is this true and if so why? ~Kvng (talk) 15:23, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- 2007 NERFU college men's Division IV rugby tournament (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I am unable to find sufficient coverage of this event to warrant a standalone article. PROD was contested in favor of a redirect or merge to New England Rugby Football Union. JTtheOG (talk) 19:34, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Rugby union and Rhode Island. JTtheOG (talk) 19:34, 12 June 2025 (UTC)
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- @JTtheOG, since you brought this to AfD, I assume you're opposed to merge and redirect WP:ATDs. Is this true and if so why? ~Kvng (talk) 15:22, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- @Kvng: Not at all. I would just rather allow time for sourcing to be found than boldly merge/redirecting. The chances here seem slim, but you'd be surprised at the coverage that can be dug up in these situations. JTtheOG (talk) 22:16, 16 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Past Sharks junior squads (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Almost all of the players in this list are not notable. Louis (talk) (contribs) 15:01, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
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- This is false. They are notable in so far as they record who played for a major club side, some of which end up playing for other teams. If that information is not recorded then it is lost, making it impossible to track player development and also maintain the history of a significant rugby club. For me this is like removing films from a director's filmography because they are not critically acclaimed. Whybeetoo (talk) 18:30, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
- Per WP:RU/N they are not notable. "Youth players are not notable unless they satisfy one of the statements above, or if they can be shown to meet the wider requirements of WP:GNG." See Wikipedia:WikiProject Rugby union/Notability#Biographies. Louis (talk) (contribs) 20:10, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
- But these are not Biographies? And so that section doesnt apply. This is a page that allows the tracking of player development over an extended period, allowing a reader to understand the health of a junior system. Its not a list of biographies. Secondly these are not youth players, these are professionally contracted rugby players, all above the age of 18. Whybeetoo (talk) 21:00, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
- Per WP:RU/N they are not notable. "Youth players are not notable unless they satisfy one of the statements above, or if they can be shown to meet the wider requirements of WP:GNG." See Wikipedia:WikiProject Rugby union/Notability#Biographies. Louis (talk) (contribs) 20:10, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
- Also, WP:SIGCOV. A google search of "Sharks Junior Squad" reveals minimal results with all those relating to this topic being from primary sources. A new catogary would be better suited for this ie: Category:Sharks (rugby union) junior players (or similar) for any players that pass GNG of WP:RU/N Louis (talk) (contribs) 22:07, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
- If you google the component teams of the Junior Squad you get substantial mentions from multiple sources. This includes multiple independently sourced press coverage. Sharks u21, u20, u19 etc. The Junior Squad is just a catch all term for players contracted but eligible for these teams. The mentions are not trivial or in passing, they are articles specifically written about these teams and often these players. Whybeetoo (talk) 22:43, 9 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete This is mostly fancruft which fails WP:GNG and WP:NLIST. The sourcing present is just team announcements for junior rugby competitions. Perhaps a small separate section on Sharks (Currie Cup) could be added to mention the U21 side and players representing their county at U20 level but this is complete overkill. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 13:07, 14 June 2025 (UTC)
- Please detail how it fails WP:GNG and WP:NLIST so your claim can be evaluated. Not all Wikipedia content requires individual notability if the topic itself has informative or encyclopedic value. Squad tracking serves a research and documentation role akin to sports archives or player pathway databases. Whybeetoo (talk) 09:07, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- Fails WP:GNG as there is no sustained coverage of the sides and the players that partake. Fails WP:NLIST as it's not discussed in reliable sourcing similar to GNG. If Wikipedia was a sports oracle of SA Rugby oracle then could perhaps be included, but this is just fancruft for me with no encyclopedic value. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 09:51, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- Please detail how it fails WP:GNG and WP:NLIST so your claim can be evaluated. Not all Wikipedia content requires individual notability if the topic itself has informative or encyclopedic value. Squad tracking serves a research and documentation role akin to sports archives or player pathway databases. Whybeetoo (talk) 09:07, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 03:43, 17 June 2025 (UTC)