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Trouted

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: Potential vandalism in List of Starship launches Ruby Bird Infinite Chef (talk) 06:50, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Trouted

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: putting "moun7ted" into an article, most likely due to negligent editing. For others, you would assume vandalism. en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=SpaceX_Super_Heavy&diff=prev&oldid=1260408327

My bad. But the trout isn't supposed to be used at the same time as serious accusations. Just letting you know. Redacted II (talk) 22:42, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:List of Super Heavy boosters has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:List of Super Heavy boosters. Thanks! ☮️Counter-Strike:Mention 269🕉️^{(🗨️ ● ✉️ ● 📔)} 04:53, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for leaving a comment.

Those sources are used on other articles, including SpaceX Super Heavy.

They are from a reliable source (NASASpaceflight, see the FAQ of SpaceX Starship). Redacted II (talk) 13:36, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

I see that now. But I will get into depth for some time and I will confirm the publishing later. ☮️Counter-Strike:Mention 269🕉️^{(🗨️ ● ✉️ ● 📔)} 03:54, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: List of Super Heavy boosters has been accepted

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YouTube references

Simply putting a link to a nearly eight hour video makes it nearly impossible for other editors to validate your sources. When using audio/visuals as references (which is not preferred to begin with) you need to at least include a timecode and preferably a verbatim quotation of thing you are referencing. It’s a pain and why most editors prefer written sources. RickyCourtney (talk) 05:33, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

I've added a more acceptable source Redacted II (talk) 06:02, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Trouted

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: The landing of B12 was not perfect, the booster was decommissioned after Test Flight 5 primarily due to the fact that the one of the four chine was opened and damaged (not nominal under any circumstance), do not false flag me for "vandalism" the Partial Success was the B12 landing, not the IFT-5 mission (the mission itself was a full mission Success), please reconsider your actions next time, respectfully SylveonFan2005.

One, sign your posts. Two: landing was successful. Redacted II (talk) 22:54, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

Oh, and three: "Whacking with a wet trout or trouting is a common practice on Wikipedia when experienced editors slip up and make a silly mistake"

This is misuse of the trout Redacted II (talk) 20:08, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Downlink special issues notice

Hello! This is an announcement that The Downlink has been revived. Rather than simply start again, I have chosen to create two special issues recapping the past three years. The first special issue spans November 2021 to December 2023, while the second special issue spans January 2024 to December 2024.

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Template for ANI

Due to the ANI report filing seems to be broken, I'm writing this out here, and then transfering the source code to ANI Redacted II (talk) 16:46, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

IP 2401:8E00:400F:871D:236A:D5A9:4A89:7C8D, as well as several prior IP addresses, have made a series of edits on SpaceX describing Elon Musk as a "Nazi" and "fasict". These aren't inaccurate descriptions, but these edits lack sources, and are clear original research.

For example: The IP claims here that in order for SpaceX to survive, Musk may have to separate himself from the company. This is false, and unsourced.

And here, the IP claims that Musk did not create SpaceX, declaring it a false narrative.

This is clear vandalism.

Geolocate does indicate that these may be separate individuals. The first IP mentioned is from India, the second from New Hampshire. Redacted II (talk) 17:01, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Starship flight test 9 (February 5)

Your recent article submission has been rejected and cannot be resubmitted. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Pygos was: This submission is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: I believe that an article regarding this topic has previously been deleted at AfD after the consensus of the community.Please refer to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Starship flight test 9.

Pygos (talk) 01:01, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

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Yes, it was deleted. It has since been expanded and thus resubmitted for review.

Check the note I left in the draft talk page, which I'll repeat here:

"Article originally created by Canadien1867, then deleted. Given that the information regarding this flight has been expanded, I've submitted it for review.

As this question was asked during the review of List of Super Heavy boosters, NASASpaceflight, as are videos they publish, per WP:RSYT.

The redirect to List of Starship launches was a result of the deletion discussion."

The submission violates no rules of Wikipedia, so please explain why its "contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia". Redacted II (talk) 02:05, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

The Downlink Volume 3, Issue 1

	The Downlink	The WikiProject Spaceflight Newsletter
		2025 1 – 31 January

Volume 3 — Issue 1
Spaceflight Project • Project discussion • Members • Assessment • Open tasks • Popular pages • The Downlink
Introduction to Volume 3 Initially launched in late 2010/early 2011 for a run of four months, The Downlink was unpublished for more than nine years, after which a second volume was published from October 2020 to October 2021. This second volume was very different from the first volume, both in style and structure. A December issue was planned (for some reason, the second volume became volume 1 in April 2021), but was never finished. Like with volume 2, this volume 3 was intended to come with changes, though primarily to style. Volume 3 will not feature any significant changes to style or structure. This both provides continuity with the previous volume and allows the contributors to construct each issue relatively easily. However, following volumes may see changes to style, format, and upload schedule. As it is still very early in the year, a discussion on this is not yet necessary, but suggestions of all kinds are always welcome at the talk page.
In the News Blue Ghost Mission 1 and Hakuto-R Mission 2 were launched from Kennedy Space Center on 15 January. They are planned to land in March and April, respectively. On 30 January, Sunita Williams broke Peggy Whitson's record for most time spent on spacewalks by a woman, at 62 hours and 6 minutes total. ISRO successfully docked two SpaDeX satellites on 16 January, making India the fourth country (including the EU) to dock two vehicles in space. Blue Origin's New Glenn launch vehicle completed its maiden flight on 16 January. The payload was successfully placed in orbit, while the first staged failed to land on the recovery ship.
Featured Content The image Jupiter clouds was promoted to Featured Media status on 4 January. It was nominated by MER-C.
Article of the Month Soyuz programme Artist's impression of the Soyuz 19 spacecraft from the Apollo–Soyuz mission The Soyuz programme (/ˈsɔɪjuːz/ SOY-yooz, /ˈsɔː-/ SAW-; Russian: Союз [sɐˈjus], meaning "Union") is a human spaceflight programme initiated by the Soviet Union in the early 1960s. The Soyuz spacecraft was originally part of a Moon landing project intended to put a Soviet cosmonaut on the Moon. It was the third Soviet human spaceflight programme after the Vostok (1961–1963) and Voskhod (1964–1965) programmes. The programme consists of the Soyuz capsule and the Soyuz rocket and is now the responsibility of Roscosmos. After the retirement of the Space Shuttle in 2011, the Soyuz was the only way for humans to get to the International Space Station (ISS) until 30 May 2020 when Crew Dragon flew to the ISS for the first time with astronauts.	Image of the Month Gene Cernan on the Moon Gene Cernan was the eleventh and (as of 2025) last person to ever step foot on the moon. In addition to being an astronaut, he was an aviator in the US Navy and engineer. Apollo 17 was his second Apollo mission, as he served as Apollo 10's lunar module pilot. He died in Houston on 16 January, 2017. He was the first astronaut to be buried at Texas State Cemetery.
Members New members: Joost van Assenbergh (9 January) TheCosmicNebula (25 January) Number of active members: 200. Total number of members: 426. Launches All times stated here are in UTC. For a complete list, see here: List_of_spaceflight_launches_in_January–June_2025#January. New Glenn — DarkSky-1 (16 Jan. at 07:03) (success) SpaceX Starship — 10 Starlink simulators (16 Jan. at 22:37) (launch failure)	Article Statistics This data reflects values from the 31 January 2025. Spaceflight articles by quality and importance Quality Importance Top High Mid Low NA ??? Total FA 7 28 14 8 57 FL 3 4 4 11 FM 123 123 A 1 2 2 5 GA 11 27 34 55 1 128 B 15 83 201 217 1 517 C 43 161 574 754 29 1,561 Start 18 146 1,022 2,558 434 4,178 Stub 9 203 2,052 243 2,507 List 10 116 108 236 1 26 497 Category 1,228 1,228 Disambig 47 47 File 223 223 Portal 55 55 Project 109 109 Redirect 1 42 131 1,238 1,412 Template 525 525 NA 5 5 Other 39 39 Assessed 105 574 2,204 6,017 3,593 734 13,227 Unassessed 19 133 152 Total 105 574 2,204 6,036 3,593 867 13,379 Monthly Changes Since December 2024, five new high-importance, eight new mid-importance, forty new low-importance, and 1,522 new NA-importance articles have been created. Fifteen unknown-importance articles have been removed, for a total of 1,560 more articles. One article has been promoted to Good Article status. There are also three more B-class articles, eleven more C-class articles, 23 more Start-class articles, four more Stub-class articles, 4 more lists, and 34 more files.
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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:30, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Starship flight test 9 (February 21)

Your recent article submission has been rejected and cannot be resubmitted. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Devonian Wombat was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: Please stop submitting this draft. It is sourced exclusively to the NASA website and a random SpaceX fan page, neither of which are reliable secondary sources. Consensus was reached that this is not yet notable and adding vast amounts of primary sources does not counter that consensus.

Devonian Wombat (talk) 03:00, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

I hear that

(well, thats a lie. I don't have time to replace the sources and pass any of my classes).[1] Most relatable talk page post I've seen in a while. - ZLEA _T\^C 02:00, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, i guess?

Darn college, taking up time that could be spent making large simulations or doing D&D prep or editing Wikipedia. Redacted II (talk) 02:08, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

rejected again (flight 9 article)

I don't know what to do at this point. Should we wait a few weeks until well after flight 8 and resubmit or just let someone else tackle this mess? Ideas? This is getting ridiculous. Canadien1867 (talk) 16:51, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

I'm waiting for a reply from the rejector...

Otherwise, wait a week, and then be WP:BOLD. Redacted II (talk) 17:05, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

Let's at least wait until after flight 8 (should be within a week anyways if we're lucky) and we'll probably have enough new data about flight 9 to update the article, form a strong reply to the rejector, and resubmit. Canadien1867 (talk) 17:51, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

After Flight 8 I'll just create the article. Redacted II (talk) 18:33, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

Any reply from the rejector? Canadien1867 (talk) 17:06, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

Nope.

And they have conducted several edits since.

So they've chosen to ignore. Redacted II (talk) 17:11, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

Alright, it's March. Should we just... cross our fingers and go for it? Canadien1867 (talk) 00:42, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

If you want to be WP:Bold: go ahead!

I'm waiting until T-24 hours for Flight 8. Redacted II (talk) 00:46, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

I did it. I was bold. Suuuuurely it won't get deleted, right? Canadien1867 (talk) 00:57, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

Looks like it's here to stay.

Thanks for all your help! 😃 Canadien1867 (talk) 17:36, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Thank you for reverting Gulf of America edits, and taking the time to report the vandals! Canadien1867 (talk) 18:53, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

Flight 8

Which flight do you think was more "kerbal": flight 1 or flight 8?

Also the chopsticks only started moving to the left at landing burn shutdown, so it doesn't look like B15 was not aligned. Quite interesting.

rip s34 Stoplookin9 Hey there! Send me a message! 00:18, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

(Not a Kerbal player, because the moment I downloaded it, there would be no escape)

Flight 1 was very Kerbal...

Flight 8... feels like the death of the current Block 2 design.

(So, Flight 1 was more Kerbal)

The booster misalignment is interesting, but given the multiple engines out during boostback, and the engine out during landing, its not suprising) Redacted II (talk) 00:39, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

The Downlink Volume 3, Issue 2

	The Downlink	The WikiProject Spaceflight Newsletter
		2025 1 — 28 February

Volume 3 — Issue 2
Spaceflight Project • Project discussion • Members • Assessment • Open tasks • Popular pages • The Downlink
In the News On 17 February, as part of a Commercial Lunar Payload Services mission, Intuitive Machines' lunar lander IM-2 was launched on board a Falcon 9. It was also launched with Lunar Trailblazer and Brokkr-2. The European Space Agency's space telescope INTEGRAL was retired on 28 February after 22 years, five months, and one day. It is expected to re-enter Earth's atmosphere in 2029.
Article of the month Family Portrait (Voyager) The Family Portrait of the Solar System taken by Voyager 1 The Family Portrait, or sometimes Portrait of the Planets, is an image of the Solar System acquired by Voyager 1 on February 14, 1990, from a distance of approximately 6 billion km (40 AU; 3.7 billion mi) from Earth. It features individual frames of six planets and a partial background indicating their relative positions. The picture is a mosaic of 60 frames. The frames used to compose the image were the last photographs taken by either Voyager spacecraft (which continued to relay other telemetry afterward). The frames were also the source of the famous Pale Blue Dot image of the Earth. Astronomer Carl Sagan, who was part of the Voyager imaging team, campaigned for many years to have the pictures taken.	Image of the month STS-98 following liftoff Launched on 7 February 2001, STS-98 delivered to the Destiny laboratory module of the International Space Station. Flown by Atlantis, it was the first human spaceflight mission of the 21st century. The shuttle landed at Edwards Air Force Base on 20 February after being docked with the ISS for almost seven days. The crew consisted of Kenneth Cockrell, commander, Mark L. Polansky, pilot, Robert Curbeam, mission specialist 1, Marsha Ivins, mission specialist 2 and flight engineer, and Thomas David Jones, mission specialist 3.
Members New Members: No new members. Number of active members: 200. Total number of members: 426. February Launches All times stated here are in UTC. See a current list: here. Soyuz 2.1v and Volga — Kosmos-2581/-2582/-2583 (5 Feb. at 03:59) (success) Long March 8A — 9 Hulianwang Digui (11 Feb. at 09:30) (success) Falcon 9 Block 5 — 23 Starlink (18 Feb. at 23:21) (success) Falcon 9 Block 5 — multiple (27 Feb. at 00:02) (launch success)	Article Statistics This data reflects values from the 28 February 2025. Spaceflight articles by quality and importance Quality Importance Top High Mid Low NA ??? Total FA 7 28 14 8 57 FL 3 4 4 11 FM 123 123 A 1 3 2 6 GA 11 27 33 55 1 127 B 15 83 200 217 1 516 C 43 162 575 760 30 1,570 Start 18 146 1,022 2,565 440 4,191 Stub 9 203 2,054 244 2,510 List 10 116 108 236 1 27 498 Category 1,262 1,262 Disambig 47 47 File 223 223 Portal 55 55 Project 109 109 Redirect 1 42 131 1,238 1,412 Template 527 527 NA 3 3 Other 1 34 35 Assessed 105 575 2,204 6,033 3,622 743 13,282 Unassessed 19 136 155 Total 105 575 2,204 6,052 3,622 879 13,437 Monthly Changes Since January 2025, one new high-importance, sixteen new low-importance, nineteen new NA-importance, and twelve new unknown-importance articles have been created, for a total of 58 new articles. One article has been demoted from Good Article status. There are also one more A-class article, one more B-class article, nine fewer C-class articles, thirteen more Start-class articles, three more Stub-class articles, and one more list.
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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:59, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Sorry you aren't feeling well. I hope you feel better soon.👍

Canadien1867 (talk) 19:58, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

Thanks.

I've been doing a lot better than I was a few weeks ago. Still feel horrible, but its an improvement. Redacted II (talk) 21:00, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

Although I will never meet you, I remember you are ~1 year young than me. I went through a similar crisis last year where I realized I was wasting my life on the Internet (wikipedia) and my health and quality of life was absolutely destroyed because of it.

I see from your userboxes that you are facing several mental fights between your ego and yourself. You feel compelled to edit wikipedia because you want to bring meaning to humanity, and feel that if information is not "on there" it will be lost. However this is a fallacy. Information has no value because it is infinite. You are a human with a limited youth and your time (=unit of life) young has more value than information. Do not fear that truth never prevails because truth will always be the most efficient way to model reality and all types of ego-driven falsehoods will always crumble back to it. There is a reason all LLMs and intuition tend to truth always; it is an embedded property of the universe. AI will carry truth within itself and reality will always carry truth within itself. Exact records of all the details of history WILL NOT stand the test of time but practical science and engineered happiness always will.

More data isn't good, inclusionism isn't good because high quality value is by far in immediate experience, not in the dataset which can always be a shadow of that. Intelligences train better on simulated tasks, not datasets.

Contribute to society in ways that you are literally meant to: volunteering, helping people directly, working, being there.

Wikipedia is a virtual, artificial way you have to avoid your own reality in the same way some people avoid their life in alcohol, TV, etc. Whether it is intellectual or useful are excuses your ego makes up because it was never adapted to deal with "Wikipedia" or whatever the Internet comes up with, only tribal living, hunting, foraging, making stories.

Make the choice that minimizes regret, simplify your life, design your environment around wikipedia in the first few weeks, journal your addiction and the cravings will fade away and you will feel at peace. J.pshine5t (talk) 10:45, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Here's a discord server we can use (i'll delete it after) J.pshine5t (talk) 11:07, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Trouted

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: Fuсk you stuрid @Redacted II:. 5.228.115.202 (talk) 08:37, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

? Redacted II (talk) 11:32, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

Are you the IP who I reported to ANI on January 28, 2025?

If so, you are evading a block, which is not permitted on Wikipedia. Redacted II (talk) 11:39, 4 April 2025 (UTC)

A hilarious joke for you!

Why was it stupid for Starship to bring a banana to space? Answer

I'm sorry, that was bad. I'm bored so I thought I'd cheer you up.

Anyways, thanks for reverting vandalism. I would help too, but you're just too quick and you always find it first :) While funny vandalism (Mega Bay 5000) is a nice break from annoying vandalism, it still needs to be dealt with. Thanks so much. Canadien1867 (talk) 02:05, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

No problem.

I just happened to check up on my watchlist four minutes after it happened.

Also, that joke was wonderfully awful, so here's one of my own:

Jokes about barely cooked meat are rather rare. Redacted II (talk) 02:30, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

I didn't want to admit it, but that was somewhat funny.

Why was the booster catch aborted on Flight 6? Answer

Why did SN9 forget to relight its engines for the landing flip? Answer Canadien1867 (talk) 14:40, 5 April 2025 (UTC)