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Welcome to the 2025 WikiCup!

Happy New Year and Happy New WikiCup! The 2025 competition has just begun and all article creators, expanders, improvers and reviewers are welcome to take part. Even if you are a novice editor, we hope the WikiCup will give you a chance to improve your editing skills as you go. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and the judges will set up your submissions page ready for you to take part. Any questions on the scoring, rules or anything else should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the WikiCup talk page.

For the 2025 WikiCup, we've implemented several changes to the scoring system. The highest-ranking contestants will now receive tournament points at the end of each round, and final rankings are decided by the number of tournament points each contestant has. If you're busy and can't sign up in January, don't worry: Signups are now open throughout the year. To make things fairer for latecomers, the lowest-scoring contestants will no longer be eliminated at the end of each round.

The first round will end on 26 February. The judges for the WikiCup this year are: Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email), Epicgenius (talk · contribs · email), Frostly (talk · contribs · email), Guerillero (talk · contribs · email) and Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs · email). Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:14, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!

Hey, IJReid. I'd like to wish you a wonderful First Edit Day on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee!
Have a great day! DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 04:21, 24 January 2025 (UTC)

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Oxalaia and Sauroniops

You know… they had the same fate.

They are considered synonyms of Spinosaurus aegyptiacus and Carcharodontosaurus Saharicus by Ibrahim, but Cau, the one who named Sauroniops replied that Ibrahim ignored how Cau differentiates Sauroniops and Carcharodontosaurus so Sauroniops is not a smaller individual of Carcharodontosaurus. As of my thoughts, Oxalaia's holotype is gone and both are only known from cranial fragments, We can only hope that new specimens of both could be referred to the holotype… depends on luck. If we want them to be distinct or Sauroniops retained as a distinct genus related to Eocarcharia just like Cau's phylogeny and Oxalaia to be a distinct species of Spinosaurus or as a distinct genus.

Adding date to get this archived. IJReid {{T - C - D - R}} 23:17, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Don't trust Yun's papers

Changyu Yun made Dynamoterror "invalid" and put Thanatotheristes within Daspletosaurus just months after Thanatotheristes is named. but are these studies just like the Teihivenator paper which is published in Researchgate but actually isn't formal?

Adding date to get this archived. IJReid {{T - C - D - R}} 23:17, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

WikiCup 2022 September newsletter =

Adding date to get this archived. IJReid {{T - C - D - R}} 23:17, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Countries in the YEAR in paleontology tables

Just as a note, please do not remove countries from the YEAR in paleontology tables, such as te removal of {{flag|Canada}}<br/> and {{flag|USA}}<br/> from the Dinosaurs table in 1925 in paleontology. All other entries in other tables include the country flag at the least and a lower division if its available from the flags thumbnails, by removing Canada and USA you are creating the impression that "Colorado" or "Nunavut" are a country level administrative division rather than a subdivision.--Kevmin § 06:10, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

If that's the case I think that the state/province should also be removed. If a taxon is known from both (eg) Tanzania and Wyoming, having Tanzania, US, and Wyoming flags perpetuates the same issue of misinterpretability. If someone doesn't know Wyoming is a state, having US and Wyoming has the same issue as having only Wyoming. IJReid {{T - C - D - R}} 17:17, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
Correct on the first note, we should not be having multiple entries for the type locality, false on the second part, saying that someone MUST knowing that Wyoming is a US is POV US-centric, do you know every state/province in India? Why expect all English readers to know US/Canadian subdivisions. Additionally a US plus Wyoming flag is nested set of divisions. All of these are processes that are actively followed in the Current Years in paleo lists, conformity is to match the current styles not to decrease clarity in the older ones.--Kevmin § 19:39, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
Ah I see that it is handled differently in the current pages than the good older ones. Most older ones don't bracket around the subdivision creating a false sense of independence between country and subdivision. They don't have it nested. IJReid {{T - C - D - R}} 06:07, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

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WikiCup 2025 March newsletter

The first round of the 2025 WikiCup ended on 26 February. As a reminder, we are no longer disqualifying the lowest-scoring contestants; everyone who competed in round 1 will advance to round 2 unless they have withdrawn or been banned from Wikipedia. Instead, the contestants with the highest round-point totals now receive tournament points at the end of each round. Unlike the round points in the main WikiCup table, which are reset at the end of each round, tournament points are carried over between rounds and can only be earned if a competitor is among the top 16 round-point scorers. This table shows all competitors who have received tournament points so far.

Round 1 was very competitive compared with previous years; two contestants scored more than 1,000 round points, and the top 16 contestants all scored more than 500 round points. The following competitors scored more than 800 round points:

The full scores for round 1 can be seen here. During this round, contestants have claimed 18 featured articles, 26 featured lists, 1 featured-topic article, 197 good articles, 38 good-topic articles and more than 100 Did You Know articles. In addition, competitors have worked on 23 In the News articles, and they have conducted nearly 550 reviews.

Remember that any content promoted after 26 February but before the start of Round 2 can be claimed in Round 2, which begins on 1 March. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:12, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Scollard Formation

A tag has been placed on Category:Scollard Formation indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz Read! Talk! 02:18, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Horseshoe Canyon Formation

A tag has been placed on Category:Horseshoe Canyon Formation indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz Read! Talk! 02:18, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Dinosaurs of the United States

A tag has been placed on Category:Dinosaurs of the United States indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. ✗plicit 03:32, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Dinosaurs of Canada

A tag has been placed on Category:Dinosaurs of Canada indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. ✗plicit 03:32, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Category:Dinosaurs of the United States has been nominated for merging

Category:Dinosaurs of the United States has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:01, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

WikiCup 2025 May newsletter

The second round of the 2025 WikiCup ended on 28 April at 23:59 UTC. To reiterate what we said in the previous newsletter, we are no longer disqualifying contestants based on how many points (now known as round points) they received. Instead, the contestants with the highest round-point totals now receive tournament points at the end of each round. These tournament points are carried over between rounds, and can only be earned if a competitor is among the top 16 round-point scorers at the end of each round. This table shows all competitors who have received tournament points so far. Everyone who competed in round 2 will advance to round 3 unless they have withdrawn or been banned.

Round 2 was quite competitive. Four contestants scored more than 1,000 round points, and eight scored more than 500 points (including one who has withdrawn). The following competitors scored at least 800 points:

In addition, we would like to recognize Generalissima (submissions) for her efforts; she scored 801 round points but withdrew before the end of the round.

The full scores for round 2 can be seen here. During this round, contestants have claimed 13 featured articles, 20 featured lists, 4 featured-topic articles, 138 good articles, 7 good-topic articles, and more than 100 Did You Know articles. In addition, competitors have worked on 19 In the News articles, and they have conducted nearly 300 reviews.

Remember that any content promoted after 28 April but before the start of Round 3 can be claimed in Round 3. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:02, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

Categories

Hello, IJReid,

We don't categorize dinosaurs by modern nation-state boundaries. It makes no sense at all to talk about "Canadian dinosaurs" as if they lived within a countries' boundaries. Nations are modern inventions and didn't exist millions of years ago. Liz Read! Talk! 04:36, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

@Liz: Fair, but then the existing categories relating to continent also require removal or other revision because those are similarly problematic. What would you suggest as an alternative? Titles such as "Canadian dinosaurs" appear in multiple primary sources and secondary sources on these topics, such as for example Matthew (1920) "Canadian dinosaurs" Natural History vol. 20. Any sort of "by location" article runs into similar problems, though modifying the wording to be "from Canada" could solve this? No animals respect the arbitrary decisions we have made about political boundaries and yet we still have categories on Category:Birds by country. IJReid {{T - C - D - R}} 04:43, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
Hello, again, IJReid,
When you are changing categories on an article that have been present for years, it would help if you included an edit summary explaining why you think they should be changed. This will help avoid edit wars between editors who have disagreements about categorization. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 01:36, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

More on categories

Hello, IJReid,

Recently, we've seen a lot of dinosaur categories emptied. You can see some recent ones by scanning Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion. I went on the WikiProjects for Paleontology and Dinosaurs to see if there was some discussion going on that is prompting these changes but I don't see anything.

You seem to be the primary editor (but not the only one) to empty out these categories so maybe you could clear things up for me and explain a little bit about all of these changes over the past week. Are you cleaning up from a past editor who didn't know what they were doing? Or are these creatures being recategorized regarding their taxonomy? I wouldn't be concerned if these was happening to just one or two categories but this emptying out is not happening through WP:CFD (as it should be done) and it's affecting dozens of categories.

Thanks for any information you can provide. Liz Read! Talk! 00:26, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

@Liz The entire discussion can be found at WT:PALEO#Categorization proposal where a guideline for the project (and perhaps WP:TOL) was agreed with as much consensus as you would generally see, including a list of category types to be deleted and categories to be used. I guess the discussion could have taken place at CFD, but it felt more appropriate to discuss project guidelines within the project, and the resulting recategorizations can be referenced to that discussion. As the discussion points out, most of the categories are built upon the foundation from a past editor who created and incompletely populated hundreds of categories, but some are agreed to be kept and others not. I am editing mainspace articles individually to ensure that they are all consistent, rather than targeting specific categories, which is why they are ending up empty. IJReid {{T - C - D - R}} 00:33, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Oxford Clay Formation

A tag has been placed on Category:Oxford Clay Formation indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz Read! Talk! 23:15, 30 May 2025 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious
Nine years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:43, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

Promotion of Proceratosaurus

Congratulations, IJReid! The article you nominated, Proceratosaurus, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
This is a rare accomplishment and you should be proud. If you would like, you may nominate it to appear on the Main page as Today's featured article. Keep up the great work! Cheers, FrB.TG (talk) via FACBot (talk) 00:06, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

WikiCup 2025 July newsletter

The third round of the 2025 WikiCup ended on 28 June. This round was again competitive, with three contestants scoring more than 1,000 round points:

Everyone who competed in round 3 will advance to round 4 unless they have withdrawn. This table shows all competitors who have received tournament points so far, while the full scores for round 3 can be seen here. During this round, contestants have claimed 4 featured articles, 16 featured lists, 1 featured picture, 9 featured-topic articles, 149 good articles, 27 good-topic articles, and more than 90 Did You Know articles. In addition, competitors have worked on 18 In the News articles, and they have conducted more than 200 reviews.

Remember that any content promoted after 28 June but before the start of Round 4 can be claimed in Round 4. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:49, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

Proceratosaurus scheduled for TFA

This is to let you know that the above article has been scheduled as today's featured article for 19 August 2025. Please check that the article needs no amendments. Feel free to amend the draft blurb, which can be found at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/August 2025, or to make comments on other matters concerning the scheduling of this article at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/August 2025. Please keep an eye on that page, as notifications of copy edits to or queries about the draft blurb may be left there by user:JennyOz, who assists the coordinators by reviewing the blurbs, or by others. I also suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors from two days before it appears on the Main Page. Thanks, and congratulations on your work! Gog the Mild (talk) 12:28, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

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