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Hey dropping by to say hi. Any collabs you wanna do, like GA or FA? I've been busy irl for the past few months. Hit me up, if so. Seeya :) — Benison (Beni · talk) 18:57, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
@Benison: I will email you tomorrow. – DreamRimmer (talk) 19:00, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

Scripts

I'm sorry to report that neither of those scripts would actually simplify much of anything, because those aren't where the problems actually are.

When it comes to the redlinked categories, that's already a very simple and easy process: every two or three days, the redlinked category report updates with all of the new redlinked categories — and once I'm on the page with the redlinked category on it, it's already incredibly easy to just wipe out the redlinked category with HotCat. So that's already a quick and easy process, which installing a script wouldn't actually improve upon. What would be more genuinely helpful is a bot that could sweep through the redlinked category report on its own, removing most of them from pages by itself so that human editors only had to worry about five or six "complicated" cases instead of 150-200 pages — but even that would be fraught with problems, because sometimes the category is just an easily fixed typo, or a misguided page-reversion following the "redlink" having simply been moved to a different name, rather than a category that genuinely doesn't exist, and a bot might not be able to catch such issues effectively. But getting the categories off the pages really isn't the complicated part, the sheer number of pages there usually are to deal with in the first place is the complicated part.

And when it comes to draft and user pages, the thing is that there's already a bot that cleans out Category:AfC submissions with categories on a regular basis — I never have to worry about or work with that category at all, because there's a bot that handles that on its own. The thing, though, is that category only catches categorized drafts that have an WP:AFC submission template on them, and doesn't catch categorized drafts that don't have an AFC submission template on them. So that's why you see me having to work on manual draftnocat and usernocat cleanup, because not all categorized draft or user pages are showing up in that category in order to get dealt with by the bot — but because a bot is already handling the categorized drafts that do end up in that category, I don't need to worry about that category at all, and have to concentrate on the other stuff that isn't getting caught by that category.

So thanks for the effort, and if you want to refine the scripts further I'd be happy to give you some feedback on what might actually be helpful improvements — but those two scripts wouldn't actually simplify the process very much, because those aren't where the real problems in the process are. Bearcat (talk) 18:50, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

@Bearcat: I created these scripts so that we don’t have to manually edit pages; they can do the cleanup in a single click. Regarding draft categories, I am aware that Danny's bot disables categories that appear in this category, but I have seen you doing this type of cleanup, so I thought you were also handling this. But maybe all those cleanups you are doing are from database reports. If these scripts are not useful for you, then you can ignore them. If there is anything I can help you with, like automating some of your work with a bot, then please let me know. I will be happy to help. – DreamRimmer (talk) 19:33, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

MMSLite

Hi there, can I use that outside enwiki, such as on viwiki? Thanks! Phương Linh (thảo luận) 07:41, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

@Hide on Rosé: Yes, of course, you can use it, but before doing so, please read User:DreamRimmer/massMessageLite#Cautions. – DreamRimmer (talk) 08:10, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
Thank you, I suggest adding an option to hide edits from rc feed for users with the bot flag e.g. gbl-rollbacker. Phương Linh (thảo luận) 09:47, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for the suggestion; I will do it once I have some free time for development. – DreamRimmer (talk) 11:12, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

Barnstar(s)

Hi,DreamRimmer!Just noticed you use a lot of different barnstars for pcrs, wonder if you want to use this one.{{subst:The Reviewer's Barnstar|1=message ~~~~|2=alt}} Xiphoid Vigour ||⚔|⚔|| 12:33, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

@Xiphoid Vigour: Thanks for the suggestion! I use different barnstars each month, but I will definitely use this one in the next distribution. – DreamRimmer (talk) 13:25, 2 March 2025 (UTC)
Oh, so that's the reason for different barnstars. Xiphoid Vigour ||⚔|⚔|| 15:03, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

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Precious anniversary

Precious
One year!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:23, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

Thank you :) @Gerda ArendtDreamRimmer (talk) 10:24, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
story · music · places
On the main page Edith Mathis, who portrayed young women by Mozart, the video of a 1993 interview has videos of her performances, - yesterday's story. - "places" come with food and flowers, - sharing with you ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:18, 14 February 2025 (UTC)
I point at a composer today, as the main page does. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:16, 20 February 2025 (UTC)
Could you please give us Main page history 3 May? I wonder if bot could do it? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:38, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
3 March or 3 May? – DreamRimmer (talk) 15:10, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
I must have been dreaming, March of course, premiere of Carmen 150 years ago, but interested almost every day ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:14, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
Since it uses templates and doesn't keep a history, retrieving past content isn't easy. While it's possible to manually collect all the main page content from March 3 and recreate it, that would take a lot of time. If you want, I can set up an automated script on Toolforge to check every day whether the main page history is saved. If it’s not, the script can save a txt file so we can manually paste the content here for any missed days. – DreamRimmer (talk) 17:37, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
I thought it's there to keep history, - wrong? How did you write 4 March? About changes: TFA remains the same, DYK remains the same, OTD remains the same, and for ITN, one could find the state, no? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:18, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
@Gerda Arendt: ProcBot creates main page history snapshots daily, but it has been down for a few days due to issues with its Cloud VPS environment. If the bot has not saved the history for a given day by 12:00, you can use this script to save it semi-automatically. To keep track of this, you can add the {{MPH alert}} template to your user page or any page you visit daily. This template indicates whether a history snapshot has been created for the day. If not, you can run the script to create one.
@ProcrastinatingReader, just a friendly suggestion—I have written a Python script for this, so if you are having trouble with your VPS instance, you might find it easier to use this script on Toolforge. – DreamRimmer (talk) 13:32, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
Thank you, I'll keep it on my mind, but am not a technical person ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:11, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
But I know you are an awesome person who is capable of achieving anything. – DreamRimmer (talk) 16:53, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
blushing, thank you for the encouragement, - sometimes I'm loosing patience in the process ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:45, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
Ah shucks, I thought the cluster recreation would've fixed it :(
Thanks for that script! I'll run it on Toolforge for some redundancy. I'll set it to run once at end of day. Seems DYK doesn't rotate twice a day anymore, so separate `b` pages are probably not as worthwhile saving. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 18:25, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
DYK is on and off the 12 hour cycles, and RD also changes fast - sometimes. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:45, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
Please check my attempt at Wikipedia:Main Page history/2025 March 3. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:14, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
Would it be easy for you to write today's b-version, - with 2 of "my" DYK in the same time, nos. 2 and 3 of the year? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:37, 7 March 2025 (UTC)
Sure, done. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 14:52, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
@ProcrastinatingReader: If you could provide me with that EW script or SQL query, I can write it in Python so you can use it on Toolforge without any VPS issues. I can also help with other scripts if needed :) – DreamRimmer (talk) 15:07, 8 March 2025 (UTC)

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Bootstrapping possible unattributed articles via Wikidata

 Courtesy link: User:DreamRimmer/Possible unattributed articles

Hi, DreamRimmer. I am starting to think about how to improve productivity on what is now the weak link in the chain for resolving unattributed articles, which is the creation of the input file. (Or maybe the weakest link is finding them in the first place, but you've looked at that, and I haven't.) I have gained a lot of experience with building the Input file, but I am still improving and finding efficiencies, which I will have to stop and document at some point. I'll just mention at this point some templates that have helped me; maybe you are already aware of them. Given a page history line containing an en-wiki article name (as it must), and the name of a language somewhere in the edit summary (which the editor may have added), you can find the likely origin article on the foreign Wikipedia automatically by translating the language name into a language code, and then using {{Sitelink}}.

The lang to code versions of {{iso 639 name}} are handy; I make use of those at Thriley/translations. If you are pretty sure it is translated, but the language name or code is not available, you can automatically add the Wikidata qid to the file, which gives you one-click access to all the foreign articles, which you can then manualy peruse to help discover the right one (still a manual operation though). See Pete Maverick/translations for an example where I included qid in a file that is a precursor to an attrib input file; the qid is an intermediate step to get me to the foreign source, but {{Sitelink}} (which I discovered later) is more powerful and more direct. Qid is still useful, for those cases where you have neither country nor language.

If something in the title has ties to some country, then you can likely find the country through a series of steps (maybe just one step) using Module:WikidataIB (function location, #25 under § Utilities functions), and from the country, a property get_value will get you the language, and with the lang code and the en-wiki title, you've got a likely culprit for the translation source page. I just discovered Module:WikidataIB yesterday, it is very powerful, but I haven't had time to experiment with it yet. I might write a template wrapper for the useful bits, once I figure out how it works. For example, a new wrapper template {{Title to langcode}} would return the language code for the country which a given en-wiki title has ties to, or empty if it can't figure it out. Then, with the lang code and en-wiki title, {{Sitelink}} will get you the foreign title. Putting it all together, we should be able to automatically update many of the lines in Possible unattributed articles with a single regex replace edit to link the desired foreign source article candidate.

I'm only at the initial stages of this, but I'm imagining a big new section in the Attrib bot proposal page about how to build the Input file, taking advantage of a lot of these tips, and maybe some new templates to help out, once I figure it all out and create them to simplify the process. But if you are familiar enough with Sitelink and WikidataIB already, maybe you don't need to wait and can upgrade the poss unattrib list using some of these ideas. Mathglot (talk) 10:01, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

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Need help?

Hi!

I'm Pawnyy. I'm relatively new to contributing on wikipedia. Unfortunately, I'm not that great of a writer, but my background is in Computer Science and Software Engineering. I see you're very active in Wikipedia:Bot requests and I was just wondering how I could get started with helping out the project, code-wise. I've been lurking around for the better part of a couple months trying to understand the lay of the land, and I figured I might as well ask! If you have a backlog of tasks, I'd be happy to take one off and figure out how I can help!

Thanks! Pawnyy (talk) 02:38, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hi, Pawnyy! Well, there are many related areas. You can read WP:HI for introduction! As you're related to computers etc, you can learn wikitext and help us out in templates & userboxes. I'm happy to help! saluere, Ɔþʱʏɾɪʊs 08:35, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

March music

story · music · places

On Ravel's birthday, we also think of a conductor and five more composers ;) -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:47, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

Today I could have written five stories off the main page, and chose Sofia Gubaidulina. I find the TFA also interesting, and two DYK, and a birthday OTD. How about you? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:49, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for improving article quality in March! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:11, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

Today, 300 years of Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, BWV 1! We sang works for (mostly) double choir by Pachelbel, Johann Christoph Bach, Kuhnau/Bach, Gounod and Rheinberger! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:22, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

DreamRimmer, Hi there and I hope you're doing well, can you help me to rectifying few several issue on my newly created article if possible and remove notability tag and please mark this page as reviewed. Best regards, Sukumar05 (talk) 08:18, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

I don't find this subject notable, so I don't feel comfortable marking it as reviewed. Also, you should phrase it something like: ...is currently serving as the CEO of the Railway Board of Indian Railways. He is the first Dalit to hold this post, since 'first Dalit chairperson' doesn't seem accurate. – DreamRimmer (talk) 12:11, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

Quarry

Hello, DreamRimmer,

I'm having trouble again with a Quarry query you helped me set up last year. It returns 0 results even when your bot returns several G13-eligible pages. I'm wondering if something changed with the daylight savings time in the U.S. but then I don't know where you are located. The last time this happened, you advised me to change some hourly totals for the period but I wanted to get your opinion again. But here it is if you have any suggestions here. Thanks for any tweaking you can suggest. Liz Read! Talk! 04:28, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

@Liz: I have fixed it at quarry:query/91568. Please copy or fork it. After this change, you won't encounter this issue again. – DreamRimmer (talk) 05:28, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
Hey, DreamRimmer,
I just remembered this query and returned to find your answer. I forked this query and have run it at least a dozen times but it always comes up with no entries. Is my timing just bad? The previous query had days (like 184 days) while this one uses months (6 months). Does this make a difference? I'll keep trying but I thought at least once it would pop up with an old draft page. Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 05:15, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

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Hello, DreamRimmer,

The bot hasn't issued a report in a few hours so I thought I'd check in and makr sure nothing was wrong in bot world. I mean, it's not Thursday, right? Hope you have a great weekend. Liz Read! Talk! 15:44, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

Fixed! – DreamRimmer (talk) 16:01, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
That was quick! Many thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 19:05, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

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K-Electric

Looking back at February 21, you undid Kelectric's edit. A few days later, an IP reinstated that same edit:( DMacks (talk) 16:14, 31 March 2025 (UTC)

@DMacks: I missed it. Thanks for noticing and cleaning it up :) – DreamRimmer (talk) 16:58, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
I actually was cleaning up some unrelated mess by a different presumably COI editor. Hadn't touched this one. DMacks (talk) 17:29, 31 March 2025 (UTC)
Oh, I see it now. – DreamRimmer (talk) 15:15, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

The redirect The Network State has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2025 April 3 § The Network State until a consensus is reached. Iknowyoureadog (talk) 03:30, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

enwiki CHUHelper

For some reason that script doesn't work for me. Phương Linh (thảo luận) 12:25, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

@Hide on Rosé, are you still facing this issue? – DreamRimmer (talk) 13:23, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
Yes, nothing happen when I go to WP:CHUS. Phạm Ngọc Phương Linh (T • C • CA • L • B) 13:26, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
Your common.js installation looks fine. Try clearing your browser cache or using a different browser. – DreamRimmer (talk) 13:36, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
I switched to Firefox and still doesn't work :(
P/s: For mmsLite, when I install on viwiki, it says "cannot get access control list". Phạm Ngọc Phương Linh (T • C • CA • L • B) 14:42, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
You can use this w:vi:Thành viên:DreamRimmer/massMessageLite.jsDreamRimmer (talk) 05:45, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

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MediaWiki message delivery 18:49, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

User:DreamRimmer bot II

Hello, DreamRimmer,

For some reason, for the 22:23 UTC hour, the bot tagged the CSD G13 drafts with CSD tags but didn't publish User:DreamRimmer bot II/Reports/G13 eligible drafts report for the hour. We've been having issues with the bot lately so I thought I'd bring this to your attention sooner, rather than later. Liz Read! Talk! 22:46, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

Looks like it was just a fluke. Liz Read! Talk! 00:30, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
It looks like DreamRimmer bot II skipped the 02:23 UTC report. Just updating you. There seems to be some odd glitches every so often lately.
Secondly, I have gotten complaints from admins staffing the WP:REFUND noticeboard. They restore deleted G13 drafts and then they make a minor edit to the page so the draft won't immediately be eligible for CSD G13 speedy deletion. I've been notified three times that DreamRimmer bot II has tagged drafts that had just been restored before the admin had time to make that small edit to the draft. This seems unlikely, I know, but it has apparently happened several times. Because I have such faith in the bot's reliability, I do not, as a rule, check the log of the page history for every draft that it tags. So, these drafts were deleted, most several months ago, later restored, then tagged for deletion, I deleted them and then they have to be restored again.
One way to avoid this is, is there any chance you could program the bot to "skip" drafts that had been recently restored, say, within the past hour? I don't know if this is possible but you have gone out of your way to adapt the bot so it could take care of maintenance steps that I wouldn't have predicted it could take care of so I thought you might see this as a challenge. Let me know what you think. Liz Read! Talk! 02:45, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
@Liz: The report didn’t update in the last hour because I had paused the bot to check User talk:DreamRimmer bot II#User:SDZeroBot/Draftify Watch. It’s now running again.
I am aware of the REFUND issue and will try to fix it as soon as I get some free time. I’ve been a bit busy with real-life stuff, but I’ll try to fix it in the next couple of days. If I forget, please feel free to remind me. Sorry for the trouble :) – DreamRimmer (talk) 02:58, 8 April 2025 (UTC)
The bot now ignores drafts that were restored in the past two hours. – DreamRimmer (talk) 17:34, 9 April 2025 (UTC)

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MassMessage fix request

Hi DreamRimmer! I was wondering if you would be able to use DreamRimmer bot III to fix the delivery of the Guild of Copy Editors April 2025 Newsletter? It has erroneously added all recipients to Category:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors newsletters from 2025. Courtesy link to the MassMessage log entry, and courtesy ping to Dhtwiki, who sent the MassMessage. Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:34, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

 DoneDreamRimmer (talk) 03:20, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
Thank you :) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:22, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
Apologies and thank you. Recently, the newsletters were categorized, but those categories weren't meant to apply to recipients. I will have to make a non-obvious-to-me-at-this-point change to prevent this happening again. Dhtwiki (talk) 05:45, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
HouseBlaster, almost-identical code (except for the year) appears on Wikipedia:WikiProject Guild of Copy Editors/Newsletters/December 2024; why didn't the problem arise then? Pinging Baffle gab1978 (who created the 2024 category) and Bearcat, who created the 2025 cat. All the best, Miniapolis 17:01, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
Never mind; I see that the categorization must be removed before sending. All the best, Miniapolis 17:13, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

DraftNoCat script

Hello, I noticed you disabled the category Pending template and disambiguation AfC submissions from an AfC draft using your DraftNoCat script, and was wondering if that was intentional. The category is meant for submissions in draftspace and since WP:DRAFTNOCAT doesn't apply to apply to non-content categories, so would it be possible for the script to exclude that and any other pending AfC categories? Sophisticatedevening🍷(talk) 21:18, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

@Sophisticatedevening: My apologies, that was unintentional. These tracking categories are usually added via templates and do not appear as visible text. I will update the script to ignore them. – DreamRimmer (talk) 04:35, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

MassMove feedback

Hi! Very thanks for MassMove tool! I'm trying usage this in Meta and Commons, and generally - successfully.

In Meta all ok, but in Commons my 'suppressredirect' rights was not realized (related option was not seen). Maybe this because this right is granted for me through special group 'filemover'?. But if i'm perform this action manually, this option is available for me. Kaganer (talk) 19:26, 12 April 2025 (UTC)

@Kaganer: Updated :) – DreamRimmer (talk) 07:10, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
Thanks again!
Also link to MassMove (in the Tools pane) is not shown on any pages (in Commons). Maybe this because this link is generated without unical id (like, e.g. 't-massmove') ? Kaganer (talk) 23:47, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
Will fix it. – DreamRimmer (talk) 04:36, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Hello DreamRimmer, I hope you're doing well. I always wanted to explore Turkish Wikipedia, so I have created the article Rüzgara Bırak. Your suggestion are appreciated. Thank you C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 05:18, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

Looks good to me. – DreamRimmer (talk) 04:36, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

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DreamRimmer Bot question

Have you considered the possibility of making the bot update all redirect pages' talk pages with the redirect wikiproject page or the redirect categories that they wish to use? Regards! Bgrus22 (talk) 07:50, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

This is a backup task that originally belongs to DannyS712 bot III. It only patrols redirects and does not modify any text. I do not plan to add that functionality, but thank you for the suggestion ;) – DreamRimmer (talk) 04:46, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Hi, DreamRimmer! Wanted to ask you if you can add a new task for your bot to remove pa:wikt:ਫਰਮਾ:pronunciation-punjabi from every mainspace page in pa:wiktionary. It's very irritating as there are issues in the template & there's large red warning on every page where it's used. saluere, Ɔþʱʏɾɪʊs 16:18, 7 May 2025 (UTC)

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Question about your Bot,

Hello! You operate a bot, DreamRimmer bot. I was looking to create a Wikipedia Bot, and the bot creation guide listed here. I was looking to operate a bot, and one of the steps state the following...

If you decide you need a bot of your own due to the frequency or novelty of your requirements, you don't need to write one from scratch. There are already a number of bots running on Wikipedia and many of these bots publish their source code, which can sometimes be reused with little additional development time. There are also a number of standard bot frameworks available. Modifying an existing bot or using a framework greatly speeds development time. Also, because these code bases are in common usage and are maintained community projects, it is far easier to get bots based on these frameworks approved for use. The most popular and common of these frameworks is Pywikibot (PWB), a bot framework written in Python. It is thoroughly documented and tested and many standardized Pywikibot scripts (bot instructions) are already available. Other examples of bot frameworks can be found below. For some of these bot frameworks, such as PWB, a general familiarity with scripts is all that is necessary to run the bot successfully (it is important to update these frameworks regularly).

How should I go with using the codebase if I DO in fact have source code? Cooldudeseven7 talk 16:12, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Can you explain it a bit more? What problem are you facing? – DreamRimmer 16:27, 10 May 2025 (UTC)
I was able to fix the problem, thanks for the reply Cooldudeseven7 talk 23:58, 10 May 2025 (UTC)

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Renamer question

Hello, Dreamrimmer,

I have a question about a renamer action you took in April. For some weeks, I have had a tab open on a window on my screen for User talk:Xiphoid Vigour/Archive 1 based on a question I had at the time. But today when I went to look at User talk:Xiphoid Vigour to see if that question had now been answered, I saw that it was now redirected to User talk:Ophyrius although it did still have some content on it on the Xiphoid Vigour User talk page. When I looked at the Ophyrius User talk page, I see that you renamed the editor from User talk:Sarvebhyah to User talk:Ophyrius last month. Typically, when an editor gets renamed, all of their User pages are renamed. But I'm not sure where Xiphoid Vigour comes into this editor's history and if this User talk page archive page should get renamed to become a Ophyrius User talk page archive page. Can you explain the situation to me and suggest what should happen with the Xiphoid Vigour User talk page archive page. Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 01:09, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

Xiphoid Vigour and Ophyrius are both the same person. Their original account got compromised, so they have been editing from Ophyrius now (which used to be called Sarvebhyah). I think it makes sense to move the archive to their current talk page, but I would check with Ophyrius first before doing that. – DreamRimmer 02:50, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
@Ophyrius: Are you okay with me moving the archive? – DreamRimmer 02:52, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
@DreamRimmer Well, I intended not to move as I thought that it would be better if the archives of this account should be in this userpace, while of that account should be in that userspace. But, as it caused a bit of confusion, I think it will be better if it's moved, so I'm moving it myself. Thanks for pinging me & letting me know about this discussion. saluere, Ɔþʱʏɾɪʊs 04:20, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

April music

story · music · places

Thank you for improving article quality in April! - My story is about music that Bach and Picander gave the world 300 years (and 19 days) ago, - listen (on the conductor's birthday) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:28, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

I finally managed to upload the pics I meant for Easter, see places. - Also finally, I managed a FAC, Easter Oratorio. I wanted that on the main page for Easter Sunday, but no, twice. You are invited to join a discussion about what "On this day" means, day or date. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:49, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

May will come ... - Just explaining that I used rollback for a few notices of removed privileges due to inactivity where recipients are dead or at least have been dead for Wikipedia for years, so would not care. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:35, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

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And other courtroom drama.
And how he knows it: all about lawyer letters and editing logs.
Why the language barrier is not the only impediment to navigating sources from another culture.
And QR codes for every page!
When an editor is ready to become staff at a public library (not a brother in a fraternity).
Rest in peace.
The technology behind it, and the other stuff.
Gadzooks!
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Hello, DreamRimmer,

It looks like the bot stopped working a couple of hours ago. I also use a link to search for empty categories that runs on Toolforge and that is apparently down today, I don't know if there is any connection. But I thought I'd let you know. I, and other admins, have become a little dependent on DreamRimmer bot II's hourly reports! Thanks for any help you can supply. Liz Read! Talk! 19:34, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Apologies for the hassle. The bot should update the report soon. – DreamRimmer 08:58, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

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A cheeseburger for you!

New signature...me likey :) — Benison (Beni · talk) 06:51, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
Thanks @Benison. I saw this type of signature somewhere and decided to set mine :) – DreamRimmer 08:45, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

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May thanks

story · music · places

Thank you for improving article quality in May. One of mine was Jadwiga Rappé. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:48, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

A first: two stories about two people who worked together and died the same day --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:21, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

Mass messaging

Hi, how can I send out a mass message to alert editors of Wikipedia:The World Destubathon instead of doing it manually? I want to alert members of all country WikiProjects and all topic WikiProjects and invite them to participate. Would take me ages manually :-). ♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:59, 29 May 2025 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld: Do you have a list of users who are subscribed to receive updates about this contest or related activities? If so, I would be happy to send a mass message on your behalf. Otherwise, I am unable to send unsolicited messages to random users’ talk pages. As an alternative, you might consider posting a request at MediaWiki talk:Watchlist-messages to display a watchlist notice for the contest. Approval is not guaranteed, but it is worth a try. – DreamRimmer 12:49, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
I haven't unfortunately. Yes, Richard Nevill is going to put in a central watchlist notice request soon, the last one was approved. I just wanted a way I could mass reach members of every country and topic WikiProject without doing it manually. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:56, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
You can try User:DreamRimmer/massMessageLite, but I would suggest being cautious, as users often do not like unwanted messages. – DreamRimmer 12:59, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
Well, I'm offering them all a chance to win something to buy books so I hope it won't be too annoying for them :-). I get drilled deletion notices all the time, now they're annoying hehe! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:02, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
Hehe, I would appreciate a message, though :) – DreamRimmer 13:05, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
I installed this but no idea how I go about mass messaging people now. Ideally something which sends messages to Category:Wikipedians by WikiProject, or minimum Category:WikiProject Countries projects.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:28, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
You installed the wrong script. Please add {{subst:iusc|User:DreamRimmer/massMessageLite.js}} to your Special:MyPage/common.js. After that, go to the Special:BlankPage/massMessageLite link. You will need to add individual talk pages where you want to send a message, as the current script cannot send messages to pages in a category. Check File:Screenshot of massMessageLite.js user script.png for more info. – DreamRimmer 13:40, 29 May 2025 (UTC)
Thanks. Unfortunately it has introduced a Article Links Tools section at the top of every article I visit now thought. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:53, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
Yo DreamRimmer, just for confirmation, is it a good idea if the evil genius and criminal mastermind @Dr. Blofeld: sends thousands of messages? Because they are planning to. Polygnotus (talk) 19:41, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
I promise I won't use it to try to take over the world, though it is a natural move to want to run a global scale scheme. :-) As it is a world destubathon covering all countries and topics would make sense to alert all members of WikiProjects, I will be running future contests too, so would be convenient to have a list of members and mass message tool.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:21, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
Understood, but User:DreamRimmer/massMessageLite#Cautions warns against such things Please do not send messages to random users, as users often do not like receiving messages they did not request or show interest in., and it looks like the Rimmer of Dreams also advices caution above I am unable to send unsolicited messages to random users’ talk pages... I would suggest being cautious, as users often do not like unwanted messages... I would appreciate a message, though., if I understand them correctly. Combined the lists contain 13.396 usernames.
The Wikipedia:The World Destubathon starts June 16 and DreamRimmer is online almost every day so you won't have to wait long. We all know what can happen if a criminal mastermind gains a new, very powerful, arsenal and uses it on the unsuspecting populace. Polygnotus (talk) 21:34, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
Also DreamRimmer that script should regularly check for new talkpage messages and stop and warn the operator. Polygnotus (talk) 00:47, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
I don't think it's a good idea to send mass messages to that many random users. I was under the impression that Dr. Blofeld would only message active and genuinely interested users, maybe 50 to 100 at most. People will definitely complain if this goes too far. – DreamRimmer 00:47, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
Non active people have been removed for the list. How does one know which editors are genuinely interested? I have no way of knowing, the only way is to contact members of relevant projects. If it was just 50-100 I'd do it manually. I don't want to get you in trouble DreamRimmer, so I've requested formal mass message rights. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:41, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
@Dr. Blofeld An alternative method would be collating the list of users from the wikiprojects' MassMessage lists. This limits you to send to those who have opted in for updates. You can also put the message on the wikiprojects' talk pages. – robertsky (talk) 04:37, 31 May 2025 (UTC)
That list would be useful but I think there are a lot of potential editors who would be interested not currently on lists and not even in project categories. Contacting 13,000 people does seem excessive, I was thinking it would be around 1-2 thousand of the most active editors for different country and topic projects, but even if it was a few hundred it would be something. I've already sent over a 100 invites out manually, it looks as if I'll have to do it all manually if you're worried about complaints. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:06, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

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Username change

Your message at Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple clearly shows you are a little bit off.

First of all, Ronaldo7Mil wasn't even reviewed. @FlightTime: simply said he won't override @Cabayi:, which makes no sense given that the request that was refused by Cabayi was Ronaldo7M. It was a different request.

Second of all, I was not "pinging random users". I was pinging users who had changed usernames recently.

To be honest, I just got incredibly unlucky that Cabayi got to my request before FlightTime, otherwise, my username would have been changed to Ronaldo7M on 05/05/25, and none of this would have happen. But that's just how life is sometimes. It not always goes your way.

With that said, thank you for changing my username. I was really starting to get stressed over the fact that I wouldn't be able to change it on time. By the way, you changed the username at "12:16", and that is actually kind clutch, because I currently have 1,207 creations, so I only need to create 9 more to get there (mostly surnames), take that juicy print, and publish it on my userpage before mid-night.

Oh man, I can still make it work!! Jeeez, this entire thing has taken years of my life! Thank you so much, truly. Kind regards. Luis7M (talk) 14:59, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

@Luis7M: There is no meaningful difference between Ronaldo7M and Ronaldo7Mil, as "M" stands for "million" in both cases. When FlightTime stated they would not override Cabayi, that was effectively a no. You also pinged JBW and Yamla, neither of whom has participated in any of your previous requests. I assumed good faith and approved this request, but you are continuing a pattern of repeatedly pinging renamers and asserting that all prior renaming decisions were incorrect while only your view is valid. I encourage you to reconsider this behavior, as it is unhelpful and counterproductive to collaborative processes. – DreamRimmer 15:22, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
Luis7M, let me paint you the alternative situation, that you had been renamed to Ronaldo7M and then someone noticed your edit to Ronaldo's biography. You would have been softblocked until either you could prove you ARE Ronaldo or you changed your username yet again. More to the point of a {{uw-ublock-wellknown}} block, you would have created the impression that Ronaldo edits his own biography. The refusal was (repeatedly) to protect Ronaldo, not to rain on your day. Cabayi (talk) 16:47, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
@Cabayi: Hence my refusal to override you, due to the apparent COI. - FlightTime (open channel) 17:17, 27 May 2025 (UTC)
@Cabayi: @FlightTime: @DreamRimmer:, I guess you were right all along, given that @Cielquiparle: has literally just compared me to Cristiano Ronaldo. Luis7M (talk) 20:21, 3 June 2025 (UTC)

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