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- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: rejected by reviewer, closed by Launchballer talk 16:56, 28 May 2025 (UTC)
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Wang Huning
- ... that Wang Huning is considered to be the principal architect behind Chinese Communist Party's political ideologies since the 1990s under paramount leaders Jiang Zemin, Hu Jintao and Xi Jinping?
- ALT1: ... that Wang Huning is considered to be the principal architect behind Chinese Communist Party's political ideologies under paramount leaders Jiang Zemin, Hu Jintao and Xi Jinping? Source: https://www.palladiummag.com/2021/10/11/the-triumph-and-terror-of-wang-huning/
- ALT2: ... that Wang Huning is considered to be the principal architect of Chinese Communist Party ideologies the Three Represents, the Scientific Outlook on Development and Xi Jinping Thought? Source: https://www.economist.com/china/2017/11/02/the-meaning-of-the-man-behind-chinas-ideology
- ALT3: ... that Wang Huning is among the top leaders and is a leading ideologist of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP)? Source: https://english.aawsat.com/opinion/5081148-man-who-shaped-china%E2%80%99s-strongman-rule-has-new-job-winning-taiwan (NYT)
- Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by The Account 2 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
The Account 2 (talk) 22:10, 24 March 2025 (UTC).
- Comment The first two are somewhat tangential by naming the paramount leaders. The main subject is Wang Huning and his ideologies. I find it interesting they are named and linked because I'd never heard of the ideologies before. -- GreenC 01:17, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Is the third one satisfactory? The Account 2 (talk) 11:37, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- I take.--Launchballer 15:30, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Long enough, new enough. No QPQ necessary as you have less than five nominations. There are some very long sentences in here I'm surprised didn't get split at GA, but that's not a DYK criterion. Reading the article made me sleepy and I'll review copyright and the hook when I'm more awake.--Launchballer 15:43, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
@The Account 2, GreenC, and TheUzbek: I see phrases that are straight out of sources and these should have been spotted at GA, so pinging its reviewer as well. All three sources used for ALT2 are paywalled, so AGFing, although the hook wants trimming to ALT2a: ... that Wang Huning is considered to be the principal architect of three Chinese Communist Party ideologies?--Launchballer 17:18, 1 May 2025 (UTC)
- Is the third one satisfactory? The Account 2 (talk) 11:37, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- @The Account 2, GreenC, and TheUzbek: Please address the above.--Launchballer 15:35, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- "..considered to be..." suggests there are others who might disagree or this is only an opinion by someone. Why not just say "..is the..", because if this is not unambiguous it doesn't belong in DYK. -- GreenC 15:43, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer, GreenC, and The Account 2: I forgot about this!
- I think I conducted a thorough review, as seen here. Most of the copyright violations I see are direct "quotes", but do you have any specific examples?
- I don't agree with the DYK texts. As I myself wrote in the review, Wang Huning was not the principal architect of these ideologies. No party document states that. THe article does not state that either.
- I hope this helps Regards, — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheUzbek (talk • contribs)
- "..considered to be..." suggests there are others who might disagree or this is only an opinion by someone. Why not just say "..is the..", because if this is not unambiguous it doesn't belong in DYK. -- GreenC 15:43, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- @The Account 2, GreenC, and TheUzbek: Please address the above.--Launchballer 15:35, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
I added "ALT3" to get this moving along. It's from the lead section summary. I don't why anyone could disagree with these statements. -- GreenC 17:09, 9 May 2025 (UTC)
- Pinging reviewer Launchballer, since the previous ping wouldn't have gone through without a sig. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:15, 12 May 2025 (UTC)
- I would recommend inspecting Earwig yourself, but to give examples, the sentences containing the words 'exposed' and 'elimination' need rewording per WP:CLOP.--Launchballer 17:51, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
- @The Account 2: This nomination is timing out in four days, could any remaining concerns please be addressed? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:33, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, sorry, got a bit busy these days. I rewrote the sections to remove the possible Copyvios as much as possible except the quotations, which I assume to be fine. I also support the ALT3 proposal given by GreenC. The Account 2 (talk) 10:01, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- WP:CLOP talks about 'superficial modification of material from another source'. Changing two words is pretty much that.--Launchballer 11:10, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: The nomination is now two months old. Is there still anything that's still unaddressed? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:27, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, I think the sentences around "political mobilization" and "structures preceding" are still too close.--Launchballer 12:50, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- @The Account 2: The nomination has already timed out so please address the above, or else this will be marked for closure. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:10, 25 May 2025 (UTC)
- Yes, I think the sentences around "political mobilization" and "structures preceding" are still too close.--Launchballer 12:50, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: The nomination is now two months old. Is there still anything that's still unaddressed? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:27, 24 May 2025 (UTC)
- WP:CLOP talks about 'superficial modification of material from another source'. Changing two words is pretty much that.--Launchballer 11:10, 23 May 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, sorry, got a bit busy these days. I rewrote the sections to remove the possible Copyvios as much as possible except the quotations, which I assume to be fine. I also support the ALT3 proposal given by GreenC. The Account 2 (talk) 10:01, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- @The Account 2: This nomination is timing out in four days, could any remaining concerns please be addressed? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:33, 20 May 2025 (UTC)
- I would recommend inspecting Earwig yourself, but to give examples, the sentences containing the words 'exposed' and 'elimination' need rewording per WP:CLOP.--Launchballer 17:51, 14 May 2025 (UTC)
The nominator hasn't edited since the 21st and did not respond to the above concerns. Unless someone could address the issues then this is now marked for closure per DYKTIMEOUT. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:28, 27 May 2025 (UTC)