Template:Did you know nominations/Marion Wiesel
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The result was: promoted by Rjjiii talk 00:50, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
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Marion Wiesel
- ... that according to Joseph Berger, the marriage of Elie Wiesel to Marion Wiesel was one of the paramount reasons he became an international icon?
- Source: "“In the alignment of stars that helped make Wiesel the international icon he became, his marriage to Marion was among the most significant,” Joseph Berger wrote in “Elie Wiesel: Confronting the Silence” (2023), a biography." NY Times
Created by Thriley (talk) and 2603:7000:2101:AA00:200B:391F:C5EB:E244 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 161 past nominations.
Thriley (talk) 21:20, 5 February 2025 (UTC).
- Alt 1... that Holocaust survivors Marion Wiesel and Elie Wiesel named their only child in part "Elisha," meaning "God is salvation."
- Source: "Elisha, which in Hebrew means “God is salvation,” "Elie Wiesel: Archivist With a Mission," The New York Times
2603:7000:2101:AA00:896D:92:B85F:9FCA (talk) 23:01, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- Alt 2... that Elie Wiesel wasn't sure what he found most striking about Marion Wiesel: "The delicacy of her features, the brilliance of her words, or the breadth of her knowledge ...."
- Source: "“I wasn’t sure what I found most striking about her,” wrote Wiesel in his memoirs, “the delicacy of her features, the brilliance of her words, or the breadth of her knowledge of art, music and the theater.”" Joseph Berger (2023). [https://dokumen.pub/elie-wiesel-confronting-the-silence-9780300271225.html Elie Wiesel: Confronting the Silence, Yale University Press. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:896D:92:B85F:9FCA (talk) 05:36, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
- Respectfully, I do not like Alt 1 because it is simply the meaning of Elisha, not something meaningfully interesting about Marion Wiesel. I also do not like Alt 2 because a quote of typical infatuation is not an interesting hook for DYK. I like Thriley's proposal, but for a reader unfamiliar with Elie Wiesel, "international icon" could refer to fame for anything from fashion to sports. Also, the pronoun "he" in the hook could refer to Joseph Berger or Elie Wiesel, so we need specificity. Accordingly, I suggest:
- Alt0b: ... that according to Joseph Berger, the marriage of Elie Wiesel to Marion Wiesel was one of the paramount reasons that Elie became an international authority on the Holocaust?
- Also, if there is consensus for Alt 2, note that I have swapped the link to Berger's book in the article because we should not be linking to dokumen.pub, a host of pirated content. ViridianPenguin 🐧 ( 💬 ) 16:00, 6 February 2025 (UTC)
Suggesting another hook:
- ALT3: ... that Marion Wiesel translated 14 of her husband's books from French?
I learned this from the article, which is interesting. Cielquiparle (talk) 12:29, 1 March 2025 (UTC)
This article, created on 3 Feb, is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, and presentable. No BLP violations. Earwig picks up copyvio. This is mainly from a Linkedin post blatantly plagiarising the Wiki article, but I cleaned up some close paraphrase. I agree with ViridianPenguin's concerns about ALT1 and ALT2. ALT0 is a bit of a mouthful, so I prefer Cielquiparle's ALT3, which is in the article, cited, and verified. If the article runs with an image, this crop of just Marion Wiesel is better (which is free and legible at low res). Good to go. Tenpop421 (talk) 16:06, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
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