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On 17 April 2025, it was proposed that this article be moved from Operation Underground Railroad to Our Rescue. The result of the discussion was moved.

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Renaming and rebranding of Operation Underground Railroad

A lot of the information on this page is out of date, post-OUR's rebranding.

For example, the name is "OUR Rescue" and they have a new logo.

the financial information from 2021 is also outdated and can be updated from their 2023 Form 990.

Also, the global HQ was moved from SLC, Utah to Minneapolis, MN. https://ourrescue.org/education/press-release/our-rescue-is-moving-global-headquarters-to-minneapolis ArhedisVarkenjaab (talk) 12:28, 19 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 17 April 2025

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Bensci54 (talk) 16:23, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Operation Underground Railroad → Our Rescue – This organization has changed its name from Operation Underground Railroad to Our Rescue. The name change has been reported on. Since the change, this is now the commonly referred to name, as seen in most recent articles on the subject, including in ABC and local station reporting Tricia Little (talk) 16:27, 17 April 2025 (UTC) Tricia Little (talk) 16:27, 17 April 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 23:29, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. I found several other news articles reporting on the org under the new name.[1][2][3][4][5][6][7] Note that most news sources refer to them as "Our Rescue" and not the org's preferred styling "OUR Rescue" so the proposed capitalization is appropriate.--MYCETEAE 🍄‍🟫—talk 18:36, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Our organization has standardized the capitalization across all uses and we officially go by "Our Rescue" now, rather than the all capital "OUR Rescue" so I agree that this is the appropriate change. Tricia Little (talk) 20:46, 17 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Support. And commendation to the organisation's members for clearly disclosing their COIs and acting conservatively in recognition of them. The name change is now well attested and per WP:NAMECHANGES the evidence above is overwhelmingly in support of the change. Andrewa (talk) 09:50, 2 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Update article with new name

This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered.

Hi! I would like to introduce myself. I am Anna, the new representative for Our Rescue. My colleague Tricia Little will no longer be posting requests. In her footsteps, I will be posting requests on this Talk page and pledge to not edit directly since I am an employee of Our Rescue and therefore have a conflict of interest.

I see that this article has now been moved. Now that this is complete, I would like to suggest that this name be implemented across the article in all instances. This includes replacing "O.U.R", "OUR", "Operation Underground Railroad", and all others with "Our Rescue" (excluding any instances where the historical name is needed).

I have a draft in my userspace that shows all these replacements and additionally is just an overall draft on the future requests I will be suggesting. I believe this draft makes the article more compliant with Wikipedia's rules, as the current article has some sourcing issues, and issues with weight and relevance. I would love if any editors wanted to submit any feedback on this draft.

Ping me with any questions! AChalin (talk) 21:21, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Myceteae, Andrewa, and Bensci54: Hi! I see the article has been moved. Thank you for that! With that, I believe a general update is also in order. Given your participation in the move discussion, I would like to see if any of you would like to consider this request to update the name of the organization throughout the article (except when the historical name is appropriate). Thank you! AChalin (talk) 14:52, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done Bensci54 (talk) 16:04, 16 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bensci54: Thanks! Looks like there are still a few "Operation Underground Railroad"s left, specifically in the Financials and In popular media sections. I wanted to see if this was intentional or needed to be updated as well.

Also, I am curious to see if you had any thoughts on the draft in my userspace. I appreciate feedback on it if you have any. Thanks! AChalin (talk)

Bias

This article reads like a criticism of OUR rather than a factual article. It makes statements like "There have been no actual verified rescues performed by the group, and the group's claims of rescues have misled donors and the public about what the group does". Later in the article it states "According to Foreign Policy, in 2014, "after OUR's first operation in the Dominican Republic, a local organization called the National Council for Children and Adolescents (CONANI when abbreviated in Spanish) quickly discovered it didn't have the capacity to handle the 26 girls rescued." So which is it? Have 26 girls been rescued? Have no girls been rescued? The article is severely biased and contradicts itself. 73.65.161.113 (talk) 15:53, 17 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. It needs a revamp. I also suggest removing or moving Sexual misconduct allegations section, which is about its founder, who is no longer associated with the origination to his own page. Mysecretgarden (talk) 23:39, 24 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Mysecretgarden: I agree with your and the IP editor's assessment that the article is biased and not factual. I have put together a draft in my userspace that I think is a more neutral and accurate version of this article. Would you care to review it?

As a disclosure, I am an employee of Our Rescue and therefore have a conflict of interest. I will not edit the article directly.

Please let me know if you have any questions. AChalin (talk) 19:09, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ESD K-9 subsection

An impartial editor has reviewed the proposed edit(s) and asked the editor with a conflict of interest to go ahead and make the suggested changes.

Hi! Anna here, the rep for Our Rescue. I have a suggested addition for this article. This includes a new subsection, which would need some currently existing content to be removed or added into this section. A breakdown is below:

Add a subsection named "ESD K-9" to the end of the current "Operations" section
In this new subsection, add the following content:

ESD K-9 subsection

Our Rescue trains dogs to detect electronic storage devices and donates them to police departments in several U.S. states and Thailand.^[1]^[2] Our Rescue assesses the needs of the area to select which agencies it will donate the dogs.^[3]

These dogs are trained to smell SD cards in devices including cell phones, hard drives, and hidden cameras.^[4] Some are also trained to provide comfort to victims.^[3]

Dogs donated by Our Rescue have been connected to the arrests of individuals for child pornography.^[5]

References

^ "Electronic Detection Deployed Dogs". Jordan Detection K9. Archived from the original on December 6, 2022. Retrieved March 10, 2023.
^ Armstrong, Kiah (January 19, 2022). "Woods Cross Police now have a K-9 trained to sniff out child sexual assault material". Channel 4. Archived from the original on January 21, 2022. Retrieved March 10, 2023.
^ ^a ^b Williams, Rachel (26 September 2023). "Meet Benton County's electronic detection K9 named Denver". 5newsonline.com. Retrieved 20 March 2025.
^ Gillespie, Lane (28 August 2023). "Shawnee Co. DA's office welcomes new dog trained to detect electronic evidence". WIBW. Retrieved 20 March 2025.
^ Ledbetter, Reagan (17 July 2024). "Rogers County K9 Assists In Arrest Of High-Profile Doctor In Ecuador". www.newson6.com. Retrieved 20 March 2025.

If the above is added, this would require the following to be removed to not have any redundancies:

Our Rescue bought over 50 dogs trained to detect electronic storage devices from Jordan Detection K9 and donated them to police departments in several U.S. states and Thailand.
- This is in the current "Law enforcement support" subsection.

Ping me with any questions! AChalin (talk) 21:19, 5 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead: I have reviewed these proposed changes and suggest that you go ahead and make the proposed changes to the page. GoldRomean (talk) 00:51, 10 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Seeing that this edit was still not done, I have gone ahead and posted it. Mysecretgarden (talk) 05:33, 20 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Mysecretgarden: Thank you for implementing this! I was holding off because I was actually going to suggest some new language that I thought was more accurate after some consideration. In short, I would like to suggest replacing the current text in the new "ESD K-9" subsection with the following (changes in bold):

Proposed ESD K-9 subsection language

Our Rescue’s ESD K9 Program funds dogs, trained by Jordan Detective, to detect electronic storage devices and donates them to police departments in several U.S. states and Thailand.^[1]^[2]

Our Rescue assesses the needs of the area to select which agencies it will donate the dogs.^[3]

The dogs are trained to detect electronic storage devices including cell phones, hard drives, and hidden cameras.^[4] ESD K9s are also trained to provide comfort to victims.^[3]

Dogs donated by Our Rescue have been connected to the arrests of individuals for child pornography.^[5]

References

^ "Electronic Detection Deployed Dogs". Jordan Detection K9. Archived from the original on December 6, 2022. Retrieved March 10, 2023.
^ "Kentucky State Police welcomes new K9 officer, May". WLWT. 12 May 2021. Retrieved 20 June 2025.
^ ^a ^b Williams, Rachel (26 September 2023). "Meet Benton County's electronic detection K9 named Denver". 5newsonline.com. Retrieved 20 March 2025.
^ Gillespie, Lane (28 August 2023). "Shawnee Co. DA's office welcomes new dog trained to detect electronic evidence". WIBW. Retrieved 20 March 2025.
^ Ledbetter, Reagan (17 July 2024). "Rogers County K9 Assists In Arrest Of High-Profile Doctor In Ecuador". www.newson6.com. Retrieved 20 March 2025.

I believe this text is more accurate than what I previously proposed and that GoldRomeanapproved because it makes it more clear that Jordan Detective does the training and clarifies more what the dogs are trained to do.

While I appreciate the previous go-ahead, I do prefer other editors implementing for me due to my conflict of interest. Let me know if there are any thoughts on this! AChalin (talk) 22:18, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I usually use "go ahead" to save time, but of course I'm usually happy to implement for you as well. @Mysecretgarden, thank you for the previous changes, I'm a bit busy at the moment and would appreciate if you could do this one as well. Thank you! GoldRomean (talk) 22:41, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Mysecretgarden and GoldRomean: Thanks! I saw the editors implemented on my behalf and it looks like the new subsection was made and current information moved over, but the new language was not implemented. Any thoughts on this?

Let me know if there are any more questions! AChalin (talk) 21:54, 17 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Mysecretgarden and GoldRomean: Checking in to see if either of you are able to implement the updated wording to the ESD K-9 subsection you approved?

As a side note, I updated the draft in user space if you are interested to see what else I had in mind for the article as a whole. Otherwise, I will be back with more requests soon. AChalin (talk) 21:17, 30 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Electronic Detection Deployed Dogs". Jordan Detection K9. Archived from the original on December 6, 2022. Retrieved March 10, 2023.

[2] Armstrong, Kiah (January 19, 2022). "Woods Cross Police now have a K-9 trained to sniff out child sexual assault material". Channel 4. Archived from the original on January 21, 2022. Retrieved March 10, 2023.

[Williams_2023-3] Williams, Rachel (26 September 2023). "Meet Benton County's electronic detection K9 named Denver". 5newsonline.com. Retrieved 20 March 2025.

[Gillespie_2023-4] Gillespie, Lane (28 August 2023). "Shawnee Co. DA's office welcomes new dog trained to detect electronic evidence". WIBW. Retrieved 20 March 2025.

[Ledbetter-5] Ledbetter, Reagan (17 July 2024). "Rogers County K9 Assists In Arrest Of High-Profile Doctor In Ecuador". www.newson6.com. Retrieved 20 March 2025.

[6] "Electronic Detection Deployed Dogs". Jordan Detection K9. Archived from the original on December 6, 2022. Retrieved March 10, 2023.

[WLWT_2021-7] "Kentucky State Police welcomes new K9 officer, May". WLWT. 12 May 2021. Retrieved 20 June 2025.

[Williams_2023-8] Williams, Rachel (26 September 2023). "Meet Benton County's electronic detection K9 named Denver". 5newsonline.com. Retrieved 20 March 2025.

[Gillespie_2023-9] Gillespie, Lane (28 August 2023). "Shawnee Co. DA's office welcomes new dog trained to detect electronic evidence". WIBW. Retrieved 20 March 2025.

[Ledbetter-10] Ledbetter, Reagan (17 July 2024). "Rogers County K9 Assists In Arrest Of High-Profile Doctor In Ecuador". www.newson6.com. Retrieved 20 March 2025.

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