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This article has been mentioned by multiple media organizations:

Richard Cooke (February 17, 2020). "Wikipedia Is the Last Best Place on the Internet". Wired. Retrieved February 27, 2020. By contrast, Wikipedia's article on Napoleon sits at around 18,000 words long and runs to more than 350 sources.
Annie Rauwerda (2023-11-23). "Watching the Napoleon Movie? Don't Forget to Read His Wikipedia Page". Slate. Retrieved 2023-11-23. Le petit caporal even has a stand-alone article on his genitals (only Jesus and Hitler can say the same).

This article has previously been nominated to be moved. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination.

Discussions:

RM, Napoleon I → Napoleon Bonaparte, Moved to Napoleon, 24 February 2011, Talk:Napoleon/Archive 5#Move to Napoleon Bonaparte
RM, Napoleon → Napoleon Bonaparte, No move, 16 September 2014, Talk:Napoleon/Archive 6#Requested move 16 September 2014
RM, Napoleon → Napoleon I, consensus not to move, 17 February 2020, Special:Permalink/942465823#Requested move 17 February 2020

Older discussions:

RM, Napoleon I of France → Napoleon Bonaparte, No consensus, 29 May 2007, Talk:Napoleon/Archive 3#Requested move
Napoleon I of France → Napoleon I, Moved, 18 February 2010, Talk:Napoleon/Archive 4#Title : Napoleon of France ?
RM, Napoleon I → Napoleon, Not moved, 19 January 2011, Talk:Napoleon/Archive 5#Requested move

Section sizes

Section size for Napoleon (53 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	16,909	16,909
Early life	7,552	7,552
Early career	18	19,232
Return to Corsica	2,668	2,668
Siege of Toulon	2,195	2,195
13 Vendémiaire	4,837	4,837
First Italian campaign	4,305	4,305
Egyptian expedition	5,209	5,209
Ruler of France	395	57,581
18 Brumaire	1,502	1,502
French Consulate	5,284	10,228
Temporary peace in Europe	4,944	4,944
French Empire	280	39,297
Bonaparte becomes Napoleon I	3,415	3,415
War of the Third Coalition	6,427	6,427
Middle-Eastern alliances	1,722	1,722
War of the Fourth Coalition and Tilsit	5,111	5,111
Peninsular War and Erfurt	5,654	5,654
War of the Fifth Coalition	3,378	3,378
Consolidation of the empire	1,823	1,823
Invasion of Russia	5,191	5,191
War of the Sixth Coalition	6,296	6,296
Exile to Elba	1,979	1,979
Hundred Days	4,180	4,180
Exile on Saint Helena	7,620	11,661
Death	4,041	4,041
Religion	224	8,279
Religious beliefs	3,372	3,372
Concordat	2,058	2,058
Arrest of Pope Pius VII	1,041	1,041
Religious emancipation	1,584	1,584
Personality	6,858	6,858
Appearance and image	3,551	3,551
Reforms	1,267	12,538
Administration	2,238	2,238
Napoleonic Code	1,527	1,527
Warfare	3,588	3,588
Education	3,227	3,227
Nobility and honours	691	691
Memory and evaluation	55	16,068
Criticism	5,550	5,550
Propaganda and memory	5,282	5,282
Long-term influence outside France	5,181	5,181
Children	2,007	2,007
Arms	3,482	3,482
Notes	29	29
References	33	12,747
Works cited	55	12,714
Biographical studies	5,117	5,117
Historiography and memory	733	733
Specialty studies	6,809	6,809
Further reading	2,185	2,185
External links	6,309	6,309
Total	186,988	186,988

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Semi-protected edit request on 4 November 2024

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In reference to Napoleon’s place of birth Corsica is assigned to The Kingdom of France, however Corsica belonged to the Republic of Genoa at the time of Napoleon’s burth. 86.170.220.41 (talk) 22:24, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: no sources provided to support the claim + Napoleon was born in 1769, a year after Corsica became French. M.Bitton (talk) 00:29, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Referring to M.Bitton, he is right. 2600:1003:B13A:C414:6D75:C504:39B5:718B (talk) 00:11, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Use of the term "mulattos"

"..banned the entry of blacks and mulattos into France.."

I realize the zeitgeist of the times being discussed is of relevance to what words are considered appropriate, but is there any value to carrying this term forward here?

I'd like to add -- I'm a very new editor here, and am thus still "learning the ropes" of Wikipedia editing and editorial conversations. Please forgive any ignorance of this topic my question might indicate.

~Brant Crystals~ 04:12, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Thanks for raising the issue. The article is using the word in its French colonial context and it is used that way in all the recent reliable sources.The wikipedia article on the term is useful. I have added a link in the article. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 08:40, 22 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Aemilius! ~Brant Crystals~ 03:11, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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The "Successor" information - (Successor - Louis XVIII [a]) has been mentioned twice in the personal info table. Pixelpito (talk) 17:14, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

yes once for each of his separate periods as emperor Cannolis (talk) 17:35, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Birth name of Napoleon

Napoleon's birth name is not Napoleone Buonaparte but Napoleone di Buonaparte Hazythundermc (talk) 16:06, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that. Someone changed it and it went undetected. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 22:41, 31 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Its not fixed on the IPA note next to his name in the opening but I dont know how to fix it AML KING (talk) 15:13, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

More detail in infobox

For nearly all famous people, especially royals, in the infobox we put great detail into their places of birth or death. For example the palace, house, or specific landmark they were born in. So I think we should put his death place as:

[[Longwood House]], [[Longwood, Saint Helena]] AML KING (talk) 03:18, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In most cases, it would be better to simplify the others. Nikkimaria (talk) 03:25, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Actually it's perfectly reasonable to have parents and children of notable individuals listed, especially if they are notable in their own rights, but we are not allowed to do this in this article cause one user had them removed, nobody challenged them and we're stuck in a situation whereby every 4 months a new user asks why his parents and kids are not listed in the infobox. It is what it is; just accept it and move on. Keivan.f^Talk 03:56, 21 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

United States

In the second paragraph, the article mentions the "United States". As this is the first mention in the text, would it helpful to spell out "United States of America" and/or link to United States, or is this intentionally left plain? Ben0x539 (talk) 02:13, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia has a manual of style which recommends that we use the common English name for countries rather than their official name. So the article on the United States is thus named. We don't normally link the names of well-known countries because we assume that people using the English language Wikipedia will know what the United States is. We would normally abbreviate United States to US. Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 04:58, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"We would normally abbreviate United States to US." As long as we don't use that highly annoying "USA" abbreviation, I don't particularly care how we call the country in the text. "USA" sounds life a football hooligan's chant. Dimadick (talk) 11:23, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You must be pleased that policy specifically says not to use the acronym USA: MOS:USA Aemilius Adolphin (talk) 12:09, 27 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, cool, that makes sense. Probably only looks odd to me as a non-native speaker! I think I just got bamboozled because I saw eg. "Austrians" linked, but it wasn't actually to "Austria" or anything but "Habsburg monarchy", and likewise "Italy" to "Kingdom of Italy (Napoleonic)". I totally didn't expect those links to not just be to the obvious. Anyway, thanks for clarifying! Ben0x539 (talk) 21:49, 30 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]