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Let us work in the best reference and presentation of archaeological sites of Cambodia beyond Angkor like Sambor Prei Kuk, Angkor Borei (Takeo), etc.

Should disambiguate Republican Party for Democracy and Renewal and generally try to link up social conscience with right-wing values.

I'm looking for the best picture or any informations about the KAF's U-6 (Beaver). It seem that the KAF had 3 aircrafts. But in 1971, during the viet cong's sapper attack at the Pochentong Air Base,at least 1 Beaver was destroyed.In 1972 at leat 1 Beaver was refurbished with a new engine. http://www.khmerairforce.com/AAK-KAF/AVNK-AAK-KAF/Cambodia-Beaver-KAF.JPG

Thankfull for this info. [Unsigned]

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Section sizes

Section size for Khmer Rouge (54 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	21,691	21,691
Etymology	2,453	2,453
Ideology	15	24,947
Influence of Communist thought	4,384	4,384
Khmer nationalism	4,374	4,374
Economy	2,634	2,634
Autarky	3,200	3,200
Relationship to religion	5,914	5,914
Interpretations	4,426	4,426
History	14	81,749
Origins	16	15,240
Early history	7,805	7,805
Paris student group	7,419	7,419
Path to power and reign	32	47,217
KPRP Second Congress	4,420	4,420
Sihanouk and the GRUNK	8,337	8,337
Foreign involvement	30	7,184
Before 1975	4,122	4,122
1975–1992	3,032	3,032
Regime	48	4,234
Leadership	4,186	4,186
Life under the Khmer Rouge	593	593
Evacuation of the cities	3,209	9,207
Economic policies	1,014	1,014
Family relations	2,004	2,004
Education	2,980	2,980
Language reforms	1,307	1,307
Crimes against humanity	4,739	11,903
Number of deaths	5,642	5,642
Genocide	1,522	1,522
Internal power struggles and purges	7,521	7,521
Fall	13	11,757
War with Vietnam	2,907	2,907
Place in the United Nations	2,920	2,920
Insurgency and surrender	5,917	5,917
Legacy	2,888	17,746
Extraordinary Chambers in the Courts of Cambodia	5,742	5,742
Museums	2,765	2,765
Publications	2,652	2,652
Dialogues	1,906	1,906
Media coverage	1,793	1,793
Women’s Role in the Cambodian Genocide (1975–1979)	1,605	16,161
Women as Victims	4,652	4,652
Women as Perpetrators	4,356	4,356
Women as Initiators of Genocide	1,661	1,661
Depictions in Memorials	3,887	3,887
See also	150	150
Notes	24	24
References	30	30
Further reading	4,514	4,514
External links	589	5,112
Other online sources	970	970
Genocide	1,923	1,923
Uncategorized	1,630	1,630
Total	174,577	174,577

Is the Rebecca Gidley quote a misquote?

Sorry, first attempt at this sort of thing (wiki edit). Anyways, this section stood out to me as odd:

> According to author Rebecca Gidley, the Khmer Rouge "almost immediately erred by implementing a Maoist doctrine rather than following the Marxist–Leninist prescriptions".

Briefly checking the source, it seems that Rebecca Gidley is perhaps describing the *public political position of the the KRP*, NOT Rebecca's own belief.

That is, the book section is saying (paraphrase) "[The KRP, in a quest for political legitimacy] claimed that the KR almost immediately erred by implementing a Maoist doctrine rather than following the Marxist–Leninist prescriptions". It is not saying, again paraphrase "I, the historian writing about this, believe that the KR erred by ... almost immediately erred by implementing a Maoist doctrine rather than following the Marxist–Leninist prescriptions" (this is the claim in the current wiki article.)

Someone should double check my thought process and remove the quote if I'm right, or whatever wiki people do, I'm not sure. Don't want to touch a super important article like this without knowing the proper protocol. But I think this is bad. 99.229.176.124 (talk) 17:57, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, the PRK, not the KRP 99.229.176.124 (talk) 17:58, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, actually, this whole section is kind of odd, right? I've never looked this closely at a wiki page, but basically the entire section (other than this misquote) is based on the Ben Kiernan source. I don't know if there's a way to "git blame" and see who wrote the section, but given the misquote, I'd be worried about balance / accuracy also. (this may be no big deal – I just don't know! maybe this is truly the only/best source on the ideology of the KR! but I think I should flag this, and I think people should be careful. Better safe than sorry!) 99.229.176.124 (talk) 18:10, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wiki Education assignment: Women, War and Peace

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 7 January 2025 and 25 April 2025. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Cloé Navellier (article contribs). Peer reviewers: BethCV, JordanTaylor65.

— Assignment last updated by Mandifay (talk) 22:38, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ideology in infobox

I just fixed an error in the ref field on "anti-communism" in the infobox, but raising the larger question here of the substance. As I understand it, Khmer Rouge is widely regarded and identified as a communist organization. The reference discusses Pol Pot in particular, and seems to discredit the idea that Pol Pot was a "true communist". However, an infobox label is not the right place to try to take one side of a "no true scotsman" type argument. So, I'm removing the "anti-communism" label and instead adding "communism". If folks want to discuss it & come to some better solution, then do it here (and make it consistent with the Pol Pot article, too, please). Lquilter (talk) 21:23, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This was the cited reference: https://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/pol/khmerrouge.html
Okay, I just realized there were at least one additional edit that that editor made. I reverted all edits. The edit is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Khmer_Rouge&diff=1288152225&oldid=1287965604 and there is some additional commentary in the submission from the IP editor. I take it as a good faith edit, but the infobox is not the place for labels that are not conventionally agreed upon. I hope that editor will join on the talk page to discuss how to incorporate their contributions in the text of the article, and then, if adequately supported, appropriately nuanced labels can be used in the infobox. Lquilter (talk) 21:31, 30 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]