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Haaretz article: "Secret 1970 document confirms first West Bank settlements built on a lie."

Haaretz - Yotam Berger - Secret 1970 document confirms first West Bank settlements built on a lie, 28 July 2016. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZScarpia (talk • contribs)

Security isn't a "pretext"

Under 4.2 Settlement Policy, the article reads "The government abrogated the prohibition from purchasing occupied land by Israelis; the "Drobles Plan", a plan for large-scale settlement in the West Bank meant to prevent a Palestinian state under the pretext of security became the framework for its policy."

The dictionary definition of pretext is something that is put forward to conceal a true purpose or object; an ostensible reason; excuse.

The provided citation doesn't support the copy in the wiki article. The document doesn't say that security was a pretext. The document says security is one of several reasons to develop the settlements. The cited article reads, "The following are the principles which guided the plan: 1. Settlement throughout the entire Land of Israel is for security and by right, A strip of settlements at strategic sites enhances both internal and external security alike, as well as making concrete and realizing our right to Eretz Israel..."

So the article isn't even denying that it assumes that the Israelis have some sort of biblical or historical right to Israel, BUT it also argues that the settlements would improve security.

There is also the matter that the same section of this article implies that these cited documents were written by representatives of the Israeli government; they were not, they were written by departments of the World Zionist Organization which is an NGO and not directed by the Israeli government. It was essentially written by a think tank advocating a certain perspective but the article casts it as from the central government planning office. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.54.105.157 (talk)

create page: Israelification of land

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2A02:2149:8B02:4F00:51D1:3E49:2755:6F87 (talk) 02:55, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request 15 May 2025

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146.229.122.163 (talk) 20:42, 15 May 2025 (UTC) Lucas[reply]

Done twisted. (user | talk | contribs) 22:01, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

False claim about Israel Supreme Court

The article contains an inaccurate statement: "The Supreme Court of Israel, with a variety of different justices sitting, has repeatedly stated that Israel's presence in the West Bank is in violation of international law." This is false and misquotes the cited Haaretz article. The Israeli High Court of Justice has ruled that constructing settlements on privately owned land is illegal, not that Israel's presence in the West Bank violates international law. Lucasdmca (talk) 22:43, 26 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for noticing this. Actually the High Court has been one of the principle enablers of the occupation. In this instance, the source only says that the court holds that the occupation is subject to international law, not that it violates international law. The detail, not in the source, is that the court has repeatedly based its rulings on the international law of Belligerent Occupation. I applied a minimal fix. Zero^talk 01:59, 27 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]