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How did this case begin
[edit]Who found the video tapes 2A00:23C7:310C:501:55FB:A9A3:4F37:24CD (talk) 09:17, 11 December 2024 (UTC)
- Read the Wikipedia article. It says who found them and why they were looking at Dominique Pelicot's collection of pictures and videos. The Mazan rapes article has more details and the French language version has more. --Marc Kupper|talk 20:45, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
Can't we add a picture?
[edit]That Jjbomb (talk) 17:20, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- Has anyone got one? Southdevonian (talk) 18:19, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Southdevonian There's plenty available online, but I'm not sure which ones would meet Wikipedia's image requirements. Kaotao (talk) 07:47, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- I assumed they are all copyright. Southdevonian (talk) 12:32, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Southdevonian Surely the people who scrape images for Wikipedia are getting their stuff from somewhere. Kaotao (talk) 08:29, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- There is actually a single editor, Gage Skidmore, who has uploaded tens of thousands of photos of famous people that he took himself. Photos of Japan (talk) 22:08, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Photos of Japan That's the kind of guy who keeps the internet alive, don't you think? Thank you for your service as well. Kaotao (talk) 03:13, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
- There is actually a single editor, Gage Skidmore, who has uploaded tens of thousands of photos of famous people that he took himself. Photos of Japan (talk) 22:08, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Southdevonian Surely the people who scrape images for Wikipedia are getting their stuff from somewhere. Kaotao (talk) 08:29, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- I assumed they are all copyright. Southdevonian (talk) 12:32, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Southdevonian There's plenty available online, but I'm not sure which ones would meet Wikipedia's image requirements. Kaotao (talk) 07:47, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
Number of defendants
[edit]In case anyone is confused.
51 men, including Dominique Pelicot were on trial.
50 were in court. One man was tried "in absentia" as he had fled the country.
50, including the absent one, were tried for having committed sexual offences against Gisèle Pelicot.
One man was on trial for having drugged and raped his own wife with Dominique Pelicot, but not for any offence committed against Gisèle Pelicot. Southdevonian (talk) 18:19, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
No need to copy a rather odd sentence from a BBC article
[edit]Sentence added to article "At that point, Dominique and Gisèle were considered a happy and close-knit couple". Sentence in BBC article: "By all accounts, they were a happy, close-knit couple." The sentence in the BBC article is slightly odd - you usually use the phrase "close-knit" about a larger number of people, for example, a family or a community, and it is actually Gisele herself who is saying she thought they were a happy couple, not "all accounts" (or what others considered). You can see what Gisele, addressing Dominique in court, actually said here.[1] "Dominique, nous avons eu 50 ans de vie commune. J'ai été heureuse, comblée, je n'ai jamais douté de ta confiance. Nous avons partagé nos rires, nos peines, nos vacances, nos anniversaires. C'était le bonheur" exprime tout d'abord Gisèle Pelicot à la barre, sans jamais regarder son ancien mari. Incompréhensible, poursuit-elle, de découvrir alors l'horreur. "Comment ce Monsieur a pu en arriver là ? Comment as-tu pu me trahir à ce point ?" At least I think that is where it comes from, although the BBC adds "Christmases" so I will keep looking. But in any case sharing "holidays, anniversaries, Christmases" isn't a sign that they were particularly close; most couples share them. So I don't think the BBC is worth quoting on this particular point. Maybe best to find a better source (in English if there is one) and put something in the Trial section. Southdevonian (talk) 15:55, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'm not sure that I understand the problem. Gisèle considered herself happily married with Dominique; her children believed the same and thought they were ideal parents. Why shouldn't we write that ?
- In case you'd prefer an English-language source, we have this : Gisèle said in court that "to everyone who knew them, the couple and their three children were the “perfect family”". Should we need someone else's opinion, here is another source (in French) with their eldest son saying that he thought Dominique was the perfect dad and that his friends said he was lucky to have such a father. Psychloppos (talk) 14:39, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
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