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Major excommunication

If the distinction vitandus/toleratus is obsolete, there tills seems to be something called a "major excommunication". [1] the last lines. --90.236.141.65 (talk) 18:05, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The distinction is made in the Eastern Catholic Churches, not in the Latin Church. Perhaps someone else will continue the work I have begun on the differences. Esoglou (talk) 21:19, 14 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Possible details set aside, the Easterners call major excommunication what we call an excommunication and minor excommunication what we call an interdict (or, in the old law, a personal interdict).--131.159.0.2 (talk) 13:32, 6 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Step 5

The Reformed churches section cites Jay E. Adams about "Step 5" while not explaining what is meant with it. The previous paragraph mentions only 3 steps. Bever (talk) 23:57, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Scientology?

This article should include the related practices of Scientology - eg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disconnection_(Scientology), and declarations that dissenters or apostates are "Suppressive Persons".

Jehovah's Witnesses

Starting with https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/watchtower-study-august-2024/, they will no longer refer to their version of excommunication as disfellowshipped, but instead removed from the congregation. Stephen"Zap" (talk) 15:03, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Islam

I have two comments I suggest considering the equivalent of excommunication in Islam:

1- There are 3 classical branches in islam theologies concerning Papal authority:

a- The Sunnah (democratic/monarchy approach): Where the Caliphs used to have the authority and final word. Judges had (excommunication-like rules - see in comment 2) The Caliph had the authority to control judges' orders. Last official Caliph was the ottoman sultan. Since that time, they have no official Caliph. History Matters short documentary is useful (Why aren't there any more Caliphs? (Short Animated Documentary).

b- The Shia (Imam approach): Their theology is based on the existence of infallible person, assigned by his predecessor. First Imam was (Ali) as assigned by the last prophet (Muhammad). Current Imam differs between several Shia sects, from alive (like Agha Khan of Ismailis Rahim Hussaini) to Absent Imam that will return one day (Twelvers, Zaidi). Here, the Imam is equivalent of a Pope (that would have been assigned by Jesus himself). Absolute authority. There are some theories that gave the Imam authority to non-infallible person, for example, the most knowledgeable "Faqih" chosen by the most knowledgeable experts - Theologists of this theory designed current Iran government on this basis. So, this Faqih is like a Pope.

c- The Abadi (Kind of by-the-book approach): I am not acquainted enough with this branch (still didn't find a person of this sect to listen to him. As an Impression, the Papal Authority equivalent seems to be volatile, since doing something that contradict the book (Quran) would removes the powers of the Caliph/ruler.

2- (تعزير - Ta'zeer - lit. scolding) sounds to me like punishments of excommunications - it varies depending on the Authority evaluation of the situation - with Highest punishment a manhunt (wanted dead or alive) and no minimum punishment (kind of like school punishments). Mhd196 (talk) 07:44, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]