Talk:Education

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Cielquiparle (talk) 09:19, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that it is controversial whether indoctrination is a form of education? Source:
  • ALT1: ... that the invention of writing caused a shift from informal to formal education? Source:
  • ALT2: ... that in 1948, the United Nations recognized education as a fundamental human right? Source:
  • Reviewed: Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Yanomamö:_The_Fierce_People
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• Bussey, Marcus; Inayatullah, Sohail; Milojević, Ivana (1 January 2008). Alternative Educational Futures: Pedagogies for Emergent Worlds. BRILL. p. 92. ISBN 978-90-8790-513-2.
• Shelley, Fred M. (27 September 2022). Examining Education around the World. Bloomsbury Publishing USA. p. 2. ISBN 978-1-4408-6448-3.
• Siegel, Harvey; Phillips, D.C.; Callan, Eamonn (2018). "Philosophy of Education". The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy. Metaphysics Research Lab, Stanford University. Retrieved 31 August 2023.

Improved to Good Article status by Phlsph7 (talk). Self-nominated at 12:55, 31 August 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Education; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
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Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
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QPQ: Done.

Overall: The article meets all the requirements for a DYK. The hooks are interesting, and the article is a pleasant read. I personally find ALT2 to be the most interesting, but I couldn't access its source, so I'm going to AGF on that one. Happy to pass the nomination. Congratulations! — Golden ^talk 10:42, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

I'm fine with using ALT2. The page from the source is available online at [1]: In 1948, the United Nations issued the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, in which education was recognized explicitly as a human right. Phlsph7 (talk) 16:04, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

"Education is the transmission of knowledge, skills, and character traits and manifests in various forms."

I didn't edit anything (yet) because it's a semi-protected article, so to avoid a potential edit war, I'd like to discuss the issue first.

• Education hasn't been only about "the transmission of knowledge" for a while.
• "transmission of character traits" is either a silly claim, poorly worded or just plain wrong.

Here are some sources:

"Modern education is extending beyond the transmission of knowledge to include the development of cognitive skills, resilience, empathy and critical thinking"

"School systems understand that this “knowledge transmission” model of education is no longer adequate."

"[Title]Teaching Beyond the Transmission of Knowledge"

"true education goes far beyond the mere transmission of knowledge."

I think the lead should be rewritten to include something about education being more than the transmission of knowledge and skills, and the "character traits" part needs to be dropped. TurboSuperA+_(connect) 09:17, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

Welcome back from your very short wiki retirement. I agree with the sources you mentioned that the transmission of knowledge is not the only component of education. To take this into consideration, our definition also talks of "skills and character traits". Character traits correspond to qualities like resilience and empathy, mentioned in your first source. If you think that the word "transmission" does not fit for character traits, we could use the term "development" instead: "Education is the transmission of knowledge and skills and the development of character traits." The disadvantage is that this is somewhat longer. Phlsph7 (talk) 10:46, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

"Education is the transmission of knowledge and skills and the development of character traits."

That's a big improvement. But then "character traits" is very vague, which traits? If we go by the first source, it mentions cognitive skills, critical thinking, resilience and empathy. Would it be WP:OR to say that the first two have to do with cognition and the second two with society?

What about: "Education is the transmission of knowledge and the development of cognitive and social skills."?

Just a note, there are plenty of sources that use "transmission of knowledge" and "knowledge transmission" interchangeably,[2] [3] [4] [5] so I think we can too. In case of a lightbulb moment of a sentence where that formulation works better. TurboSuperA+_(connect) 11:30, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

I'm not sure about your analysis/categorization of these concepts. Discussing critical thinking, Passmore 1967 p. 136 writes: ‘Being critical’ is, indeed, more like the sort of thing we call a ‘character trait’ than it is like a skill. And from Scheffler 1967 p. 89: The job of education is to develop character in the broadest sense. If you don't like the term "character traits", we could also use "character qualities" instead. There are various controversies about the exact definition of education. In this situation, being vague enough to avoid them is virtue, not a vice. Phlsph7 (talk) 17:03, 27 March 2025 (UTC)

"In this situation, being vague enough to avoid them is virtue, not a vice."

That is a good point. I changed it to what you suggested in your first reply. I think that's the best one yet. If you feel differently, feel free to revert.

I think my return to wikipedia was premature. TurboSuperA+_(connect) 23:19, 28 March 2025 (UTC)

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