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The content of Julius Martialis was merged into Caracalla on 28 December 2024. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists. For the discussion at that location, see its talk page.

Elagabalus as Caracalla's son

On Elagabalus' page it addresses his claims that Caracalla was his biological father. Just a suggestion, and feel free to put on my talk page why I'm wrong... but Caracalla's page should address those claims as well, right?

I mean, Caracalla never claimed that Elagabalus was his son, but then he had no reason to. It certainly makes sense that we address the claims on Elagabalus' page, but I could see where it would be different for Caracalla. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Historybuff3504 (talk • contribs) 16:31, 6 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Full name

I think his full name was 'Marcus Aurelius Severus Antoninus'. It is in a handbook from my professor 'Roman Law'

Ambiguous grammatical syntax

Caracalla responded to this insult by slaughtering the deputation of leading citizens who had unsuspectingly assembled before the city to greet his arrival in December 215, before setting his troops against Alexandria for several days of looting and plunder.

I humbly ask someone with a love of the English language and the power to edit to fix this. The reader is to assume that the leading citizens assembled unsuspectingly, when I think the intent of the author is to say that the assembly of leading citizens "did not expect" Caracalla would slaughter them for the sins of satirizing Alexandrians.

A simple edit would read:

Caracalla responded to this insult by slaughtering the unsuspecting deputation of leading citizens assembled... 172.56.105.49 (talk) 20:00, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Thanks. Mr rnddude (talk) 05:10, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I would like to request that we add a sentence or two mentioning the portrayal of Caracalla in the recently released ‘Gladiator II’ film; there is already a similar edit on the Emperor Geta page. Porpstheseus (talk) 08:22, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Remsense ‥ 论 08:28, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Under the section Death "Sin" points to Nanna (god), which leads to a disambiguation page that is confusing. It should point to Sin (mythology). 89.133.251.63 (talk) 10:05, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done LizardJr8 (talk) 01:04, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Under section Death "Carrhae" points to "Harran (city)", which does not exist. The Harran article exists and Carrhae already redirects to it. Simply link to "Carrhae".
Typo: Under section Death it reads "A Scythian bodyguard of Caracalla killed Martialis his lance." It should be "with his lance."

89.133.251.63 (talk) 10:20, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done LizardJr8 (talk) 01:00, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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|thumb|Roman denarius of emperor Caracalla, 212 AD.]]

I request to add an image of a wonderful MS (mint state) Roman denarius of emperor Caracalla minted around the time he issued his “Constitutio Antoniniana” in 212 AD. Apaleutos25 (talk) 14:24, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit extended-protected}} template. Remsense ‥ 论 14:29, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Now asking: is there a reason you could elucidate why we should prefer this over the denarius already in the article? Remsense ‥ 论 14:30, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I also wanted to include his Roman ancestry however if both his paternal grandmother and paternal grandfather had indigenous Libyan ancestry he has more Libyan ancestry on his paternal side than Punic or Italic. His grandmom was Italic-Libyan and grandfather Libyan-Punic. I included a reference. If you could include all three it would be appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbatlas (talk • contribs) 17:42, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Caracalla was born in Lugdunum, Gaul (now Lyon, France), on 4 April 188 to Septimius Severus(r. 193–211) and Julia Domna, thus giving him Libyan, Italic and Punic, paternal ancestry and Arab maternal ancestry. Jbatlas (talk) 16:26, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. cyberdog958^Talk 08:46, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Libyan Ancestry

I was in the middle of editing when someone else’s edit had been approved. I also suggested adding his Italic ancestry however he’s actually Libyan, Punic, and Italic on his father’s side. The indigenous Libyan ancestry is being left out when his paternal grandmom is Italic-Libyan and his paternal grandfather is Libyan-Punic. Thanks Jbatlas (talk) 17:46, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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His father’s Wikipedia page reads, “On his mother's side, he descended from Roman immigrants (the Fulvii) who had intermarried with locals of Libyan origin. His father, Publius Septimius Geta, hailed from a family of Libyan-Punic origin. Severus had thus Italic, Libyan and Punic ancestry.[9] He was described as "Libyan by race", by the Roman historian and senator Cassius Dio.“

^[1] Jbatlas (talk) 18:05, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done with cited source. Mr rnddude (talk) 23:59, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Removed over concerns with synthesis. I have consulted a copy of Birley. It was tedious to connect the text as it is spread across ten pages and travels back and forth through the lineage. Birley does not say that Septimius Severus had Libyan ancestry. On p. 212 he writes that the Septimii had Punic origins with suggestions on p. 213 that some conjectural early antecedents of the Septimii may have had Libyan rather than Punic names. This is inadequate evidence.

On pp. 215–218, Septimius Severus' father is discussed without mention of ancestry. On p. 220 his grandfather is discussed also without mention of ancestry. Finally, on p. 219 his great-grandfather is discussed with mention of either Punic or Libyan name, with stronger evidence for Punic. Note, he is known only through the Historia Augusta, where he is erroneously listed as Septimius Severus' grandfather.

On p. 220 Birley writes that certain members of the Fulvii family had intermarried with 'enfranchised natives', but these members come later than Fulvia Pia, who receives only a brief mention on p. 221 without mention of ancestry.

I think stronger evidence is necessary to claim as a fact that either Caracalla or Septimius Severus had Libyan ancestry. As a result, I have undone my acceptance of this edit request. Mr rnddude (talk) 01:27, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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As he was said to have killed his opponents, please add the category Politicide perpetrators. http://www.ostia-antica.org/caracalla/historians/herodianus.htm 2600:382:2B23:35A1:30F4:1535:382:3BEB (talk) 03:51, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done Day Creature (talk) 04:41, 24 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

^ Birley, Anthony R. (1999), pp. 212–213. Septimius Severus: The African Emperor. Routledge. ISBN 978-1-134-70745-4.

[1] Birley, Anthony R. (1999), pp. 212–213. Septimius Severus: The African Emperor. Routledge. ISBN 978-1-134-70745-4.

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