Talk:2026 FIFA World Cup/Archive 3
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Distribution of third place teams in knockout round
Has there been any announcement from FIFA how the third place teams who qualify for the knockout round will be distributed? There are 495 different combinations of teams who could qualify (), which would make for an extremely complicated or lengthy distribution matrix. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 16:25, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
French language in infobox
I attempted to remove the French translation from the infobox, as the event will only be held in Anglophone regions of Canada (namely Toronto and Vancouver) only to be reverted by @Jkudlick: under the reasoning that "French is one of the official languages of Canada". It is not standard for English Wikipedia to provide French translations of the names of sporting events in Anglophone regions of Canada- e.g. Quebec City Marathon contains a French translation but Vancouver Marathon does not contain a French translation. For this reason I don't see any reason why the French language should be included here. Chessrat (talk, contributions) 20:32, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
- It is standard for the WP:FOOTY project to provide translations of major tournament names in English and in all official languages of the host nation(s). Your argument that Vancouver Marathon does not include a French translation does not take into consideration that WP:Some stuff exists for a reason. In other words, where there is precedent, it should be followed unless there is a convincing reason to do so. Not including French ignores that a significant portion of the Canadian population not only speaks French, but does not speak English. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 02:36, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, not sure what the problem could be here. Canada is officially bi-lingual and the bid for the competition was done at the country level (United 2026 FIFA World Cup bid), not at the province level. --McSly (talk) 03:23, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- All Canadian soccer competitions have French even if Quebec and New Brunswick do not host matches. 159.115.9.43 (talk) 18:52, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
New venues table and gallery
Host City | Venue | Location | Capacity | |
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Estadio Azteca | Coyoacán, MX | 87,523 | 87,523 |
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MetLife Stadium† | East Rutherford, NJ | 82,500 | 87,157 |
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AT&T Stadium† | Arlington, TX | 80,000 | 92,967 |
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Arrowhead Stadium† | Kansas City, MO | 76,416 | 76,640 |
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NRG Stadium† | Houston, TX | 72,220 | 80,000 |
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Mercedes-Benz Stadium† | Atlanta, GA | 71,000 | 75,000 |
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SoFi Stadium† | Inglewood, CA | 70,240 | 70,240 |
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Lincoln Financial Field† | Philadelphia, PA | 69,796 | 69,328 |
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Lumen Field† | SoDo, WA | 69,000 | 69,000 |
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Levi's Stadium† | Santa Clara, CA | 68,500 | 70,909 |
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Gillette Stadium† | Foxborough, MA | 65,878 | 70,000 |
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Hard Rock Stadium† | Miami Gardens, FL | 64,767 | 67,518 |
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BC Place | Vancouver, BC | 54,500 | 54,500 |
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Estadio BBVA† | Guadalupe, NL | 53,500 | 53,463 |
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Estadio Akron† | Zapopan, JA | 49,850 | 48,071 |
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BMO Field† | Exhibition Place, ON | 45,736 | 45,736 |
- † Venue will be known by its host city name during the tournament, e.g. MetLife Stadium as "New York/New Jersey Stadium", Levi's Stadium as "San Francisco Bay Area Stadium", and Estadio BBVA as "Estadio Monterrey".
I'd like to present this concept that may be an acceptable compromise between editors who are keen on preserving a gallery of photographs of all the venues, and editors such as myself who'd rather an accessible table with clear rows and columns of sortable data. I was recently made aware of the "sildeshow" gallery mode which presents images in a carousel. Here, I've applied such a gallery in a way that compliments a table of host cities, venues, locations, and capacities. It significantly reduces the size of the section, while making the information easier to parse and the photographs more legible. Thoughts? — AFC Vixen 🦊 13:26, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Training sites
FIFA released possible training sites and hotels yesterday, so wondering if we could add them in.[1]
Training site | Hotel |
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Atlanta United Training Centre, Marietta | JW Marriott Atlanta Buckhead, Atlanta |
Kennesaw State University, Kennesaw | InterContinental Buckhead Atlanta, Atlanta |
Baylor School, Chattanooga | The Read House Hotel, Chattanooga |
FC Cincinnati, Cincinnati | To be confirmed |
Dallas Baptist University, Dallas | Westin Dallas Downtown, Dallas |
FC Dallas Stadium, Frisco | Renaissance Dallas at Plano Legacy West, Plano |
University of Dallas, Irving | Omni Las Colinas Hotel, Irving |
Texas Christian University, Fort Worth | Sheraton Fort Worth Downtown Hotel, Fort Worth |
Lambeau Field, Green Bay | Lodge Kohler, Green Bay |
Chivas Verde Valle, Zapopan | Hard Rock Hotel Guadalajara, Zapopan |
Grand Park Sports Campus, Westfield | Renaissance Indianapolis North Hotel, Carmel |
Orange County Great Park, Irvine | Marriott Irvine Spectrum, Irvine |
KC Current Training Facility, Riverside | Hotel Kansas City – The Unbound Collection by Hyatt, Kansas City |
Sporting KC Training Centre, Kansas City | Sheraton Overland Park Hotel at the Convention Center, Overland Park |
University of Kansas, Lawrence | Stonehill Lawrence, Trademark Collection by Wyndham, Lawrence |
Louisville City FC, Louisville | Omni Louisville Hotel, Louisville |
Centro de Alto Rendimiento, Mexico City | On-site accommodation, Mexico City |
La Nueva Casa del Futbol - Toluca, Toluca | DoubleTree by Hilton Toluca, Toluca |
Rayados Training Centre, Monterrey | The Westin Monterrey Valle, San Pedro Garza García |
Philadelphia Union Stadium, Chester | Hotel Du Pont, Wilmington |
Saint Louis University, St. Louis | Magnolia Hotel St. Louis, St. Louis |
RSL Training Centre, Herriman | RSL Training Academy Residence, Herriman |
University of Utah, Salt Lake City | Hyatt Regency Salt Lake City, Salt Lake City |
San Antonio Stadium, San Antonio | Kimpton Santo Hotel, San Antonio |
47.153.166.177 (talk) 00:19, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
References
San Francisco Bay Area venue
The sources that I've reviewed, included the FIFA announcement, refer to the Levi's Stadium location as "San Francisco Bay Area", and this article uses that term where it fits. Where it doesn't fit, the article uses "San Francisco". Where the term needs to be shortened, I think the article should use either Santa Clara or San Jose, which is the closest big city to the stadium. Rks13 (talk) 15:01, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- Well San Francisco is more well known than San Jose even if the Earthquakes play in the latter. We really use the more well known places. El Rata Loco (talk) 21:21, 20 June 2024 (UTC)
- I understand and I disagree. Part of the reason that San Francisco is better known is that articles like this reinforce the idea that San Francisco is the only noteworthy city in the Bay Area. Rks13 (talk) 03:44, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Rks13: If you can point to multiple reliable sources that are presently referring to the area as Santa Clara or San Jose, then the change can be made. Otherwise, we will retain the name San Francisco. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 16:59, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- Why? Can you point to a reliable source that refers to Santa Clara as "San Francisco"? The FIFA site does not, it refers to it as "San Francisco Bay Area"? Rks13 (talk) 20:43, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Why do you need to present sources to justify your requested change? Because you are the one requesting the change, and you have been around long enough to understand that.
- Seven venues are actually located within their respective named cities (Miami Gardens is a separate legal entity from Miami but SoDo and Exhibition City are districts within Seattle and Toronto, respectively), but every other venue is referred to as the most recognizable city near that venue. If we change the shortened "San Francisco" to Santa Clara, should we then change New York/New Jersey to East Rutherford, Dallas as Arlington, Los Angeles as Inglewood, etc.? The reason we don't is because, at present, all reliable sources refer to the locations by the names designated by FIFA. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 21:37, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- Why? Can you point to a reliable source that refers to Santa Clara as "San Francisco"? The FIFA site does not, it refers to it as "San Francisco Bay Area"? Rks13 (talk) 20:43, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Rks13: If you can point to multiple reliable sources that are presently referring to the area as Santa Clara or San Jose, then the change can be made. Otherwise, we will retain the name San Francisco. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 16:59, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
- I understand and I disagree. Part of the reason that San Francisco is better known is that articles like this reinforce the idea that San Francisco is the only noteworthy city in the Bay Area. Rks13 (talk) 03:44, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
Who do 1st Play ?
As 1st Places can play up to 5 3rd Place teams and since 8 teams can qualify, therefore the chances 2 or all 5 teams in 3rd teams entering into last 32, that we have a chart/table to say this team will play that team; 3rd Places of A B C D F could all qualify, so who would play 1st E, C D and F also can face I alongside G and H, who do they face. Jamestwice. Jamestwice (talk) 15:08, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- @Jamestwice: That will be added to the article if/when FIFA decides to publish it. There are 495 possible combinations of third-place teams that will advance to the group round, so the table will likely be very long. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 15:52, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- What I mean is you could have winners going down and third place going across, with 1 2,1 3,2,1 4,3,2,1 5,4,3,2,1
- Jamestwice Jamestwice (talk) 15:57, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Until FIFA publishes the third-place table, any tables created by editors would have to be removed as original research. Even then, we should probably just provide a link to the table since it would likely contain 495 entries (see the math below). — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 17:14, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- Agree, wait until FIFA publish how this will work. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:54, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
- And I imagine at some point, FIFA will publish a table for this, a bit like the one for the current Euro 2024: [1]. At that point, we could point out there is a table, but copying the detail of it would be way too much detail (the UEFA Euro one has 15 combinations, the FIFA World Cup one would have lots more as there's more groups). Joseph2302 (talk) 06:41, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
- I know we have duplicated the table for 24-team tournaments in the past, e.g. the 2019 FIFA Women's World Cup, because there are only 15 possible combinations of advancing 3rd-place teams (). I absolutely agree that duplicating the table for this tournament would be unwieldy at best since there are 495 possible combinations of advancing 3rd-place teams () and that a reference to the published table should suffice. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 15:09, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
Table or Charts
This what I meant on who go first https://1drv.ms/w/c/2445ff2e99b133ed/EQKEnckBab5BgSj7gCajUdcBR2XTwudSmPDP3CC-BdSiNw?e=dGYcbh Jamestwice Jamestwice (talk) 11:16, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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In the 4th paragraph of the Venues section, please update FedExField to Commanders Field, the stadium of Washington D.C. [1] 189.133.124.30 (talk) 06:02, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
Not done While your reference does support that FedEx has dropped the naming rights, it does not state what the stadium will be called in the meantime. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 12:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ Rogers, Winston (2024-02-28). "FedEx drops naming rights of Commanders' stadium 2 years before contract expires". WJLA.
The training sites
New info please Josedanielcardona16 (talk) 16:52, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
Not done It's not clear what you're requesting. 1995hoo (talk) 16:54, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
Country flags at the infobox
The current note in the code is: "Do not add flags to country parameters as per WP:INFOBOXFLAG."
I don't think it's problematic to insert the national flags at this position. This highly relevant information is made clear by the corresponding flags. In my opinion, the points from WP:INFOBOXFLAG are not applicable in this case because they do not create any ambiguity and there are only three flags. Bildersindtoll (talk) 22:51, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Bildersindtoll. Please read MOS:INFOBOXFLAG carefully. Flag icons should not be added to fields such as country / nationality in infoboxes. Annh07 (talk) 14:15, 27 July 2024 (UTC)
- While I agree that the flags are unnecessary and I don't understand why some people are so obsessed with adding them at every opportunity, I think MOS:INFOBOXFLAG can certainly be read as allowing for their use in World Cup articles. It says, in part, "Situations where flag icons may be used in infoboxes include: … Representing the nationality of participants in sporting events where this practice is otherwise common, such as at the FIFA World Cup or Olympic Games … ." Given that the host countries are also participants, there's a reasonable argument to be made that the three host countries for 2026 fall within the scope of that sentence, although my gut tells me it was intended to mean something other than what it actually says. But, with that said, I really do not see what benefit flags would supposedly add. If a reader is unfamiliar with the US, Canada, and Mexico, does anybody really think adding a flag is going to make a difference? 1995hoo (talk) 21:00, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
- The meaning of "the nationality of the participants" refers either to the individual players (i.e. Lionel Messi) or to the representative national teams (i.e. Argentina). The national teams of the host nations are indeed participants, but it is the nation that is hosting and not the team. Does this clear things up, or did I only muddy the waters? — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 19:43, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- As I said before, I don't see the point in including the flags at all. But user "Bildersindtoll," who started this particular discussion, is far from the only user I've seen who's wanted to add them for the host countries, so that makes me think that maybe the guidance might need to be clarified in some way. I follow what you're saying, but I suspect there may be other people for whom the distinction is too subtle. (I work in the legal profession, for what it's worth, so subtle distinctions are right up my alley. But some of the writing and edit-warring I sometimes see on Wikipedia leads me to suspect that subtleties are not something a lot of people appreciate!) 1995hoo (talk) 21:00, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
- The meaning of "the nationality of the participants" refers either to the individual players (i.e. Lionel Messi) or to the representative national teams (i.e. Argentina). The national teams of the host nations are indeed participants, but it is the nation that is hosting and not the team. Does this clear things up, or did I only muddy the waters? — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 19:43, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
Greenland
Why Greenland is gray (not a FIFA memeber)? Greenland is part of Denmark. Dejudicibus (talk) 09:42, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Most likely because they have their own "national" team that does not compete in FIFA events. 1995hoo (talk) 11:34, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, exactly that. Greenland has its own football team which isn't part of FIFA. The map is of football countries rather than actual countries. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:07, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- BTW, to expand a bit on the point Joseph2302 makes, consider how participation in the World Cup and other international sporting events doesn’t track political countries. For example, England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland have their own teams that compete in the World Cup despite all being "part of the United Kingdom." Looking at the Olympics, one example of a participant that is not an independent country is Puerto Rico, which is a US territory—indeed this past Saturday the US team played Puerto Rico in the final preliminary-round game, and in 2004 the US suffered an embarrassing loss to Puerto Rico in the preliminary round. I think it’s eminently reasonable for the map to reflect however the relevant sport's governing body (or the IOC, for Olympic purposes) views the participants in terms of what "countries" are relevant. (It’s not unusual for the word "country" to be avoided in certain international contexts because of the problem of Taiwan's status, for what it’s worth.) 1995hoo (talk) 21:34, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, exactly that. Greenland has its own football team which isn't part of FIFA. The map is of football countries rather than actual countries. Joseph2302 (talk) 20:07, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
"Mexico 2026" listed at Redirects for discussion
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"Canada 2026" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Venues - Wrong Picture on Vancouver Stadium (not BC Place)
The picture shown on the host cities is from Lumen Field Seattle and not BC place.
File:OL Reign vs. Washington Spirit - October 6, 2023 - view from southeast.jpg 70.36.53.82 (talk) 01:24, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
- No, this is correct. The image is below the city name in the table, not above. --McSly (talk) 01:39, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
New Zealand
According to 2026 FIFA World Cup qualification#Qualified teams, New Zealand have already qualified for the World Cup, but this appears to contradict the articles 2026 FIFA World Cup qualification (OFC) and New Zealand national football team. 2001:1C00:1818:E800:FCDB:C694:F13E:1612 (talk) 14:42, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
- That was added in error. I have reverted that edit. Wburrow (talk) 15:04, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
Draw and Draw result
It is far too early to put information onto the article for the December 2025 Draw and Draw result, even though it is collapsible. How do you hide this section, when it has multiple <!- - and - -> arrows to hide other details? Matilda Maniac (talk) 23:42, 7 March 2025 (UTC)
- It requires a lot of repeated <!-- after each -->. It can really be a nightmare when there are a lot of them. I'll remove all the <!--{{fb|}}--> to make it much easier. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 00:33, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
Proposal to Add Weather and Climates Section under Venues
I would like to propose adding a Weather and Climates section under Venues to provide useful information regarding climate variations across different host cities. Unlike previous World Cups hosted in a single country, the 2026 tournament will take place across 16 cities in the United States, Canada, and Mexico, spanning multiple climate zones. As a result, both fans and athletes traveling between host cities will encounter significant variations in temperature, humidity, and overall weather conditions. Providing climate-related information will be essential to help teams and spectators prepare accordingly. Therefore, this item should be included under the Venues section. WIKIJKY (talk) 02:15, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not a travel guide. The climate information is already present in the respective city articles and further details would be more appropriate for Wikivoyage. SounderBruce 06:23, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Given the diverse climate zones of the 2026 World Cup host cities (ranging from high-altitude conditions in Mexico City to humid heat in Miami), weather plays a critical role in player performance, fan experience, and logistical planning. The 2022 Qatar World Cup acknowledged this by implementing stadium cooling systems, and recent research highlights the impact of environmental factors on sports events. A brief mention of venue-specific weather conditions (e.g., Miami’s humidity affecting endurance) would provide valuable, tournament-relevant context without turning the section into a travel guide. WIKIJKY (talk) 17:20, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- No offense, but is there a reason your comments read like they're written by AI? Adeletron 3030 (talk • edits) 19:05, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Given the diverse climate zones of the 2026 World Cup host cities (ranging from high-altitude conditions in Mexico City to humid heat in Miami), weather plays a critical role in player performance, fan experience, and logistical planning. The 2022 Qatar World Cup acknowledged this by implementing stadium cooling systems, and recent research highlights the impact of environmental factors on sports events. A brief mention of venue-specific weather conditions (e.g., Miami’s humidity affecting endurance) would provide valuable, tournament-relevant context without turning the section into a travel guide. WIKIJKY (talk) 17:20, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
Proposed Edits to the 2026 FIFA World Cup Article
Hello Wikipedia community,
I intend to enhance the 2026 FIFA World Cup article. Below is a detailed outline of our proposed edits. Your feedback and collaboration would be greatly appreciated!
1. Symbols
- Mascot (Newly added):
- Add information regarding the ongoing speculation and fan discussions about the potential mascot, emphasizing North America's cultural diversity and shared heritage due to joint hosting.
- Music:
- Update the music section to include recent releases for Vancouver and Toronto, detailing artist information, thematic significance, and fan responses.
2. Fan Fests
- Locations:
- Provide updated information on recently confirmed Fan Fest and public viewing events, particularly for host cities like Toronto, ensuring accuracy based on official announcements from FIFA and local governments.
- Fan Engagement Strategy (Newly added):
- Include FIFA's typical travel advisories and matchday guidelines, particularly emphasizing travel preparations and climate-related considerations.
3. Marketing
- Posters:
- Detail the role of official host city posters in branding, highlighting recent updates such as Philadelphia's newly unveiled designs.
- Explain their significance in terms of local heritage, global promotion, and cultural representation.
4. Controversies and Potential Issues (Newly added)
- Midterm Elections in the United States:
- Discuss the potential impacts of the 2026 U.S. midterm elections on local policy, funding, and logistics relevant to tournament planning and organization.
- Expanded Tournament Format:
- Clarify how the increased number of participating teams influences scheduling, venue allocation, and overall competition dynamics, highlighting the differences compared to previous tournaments.
- Possible New Football Rules:
- Mention Arsène Wenger’s proposed new offside rule, noting that while not officially adopted, it might be tested during the tournament, potentially significantly affecting gameplay.
I welcome feedback from all editors and appreciate your collaboration and suggestions throughout this process. Thank you!
WIKIJKY (talk) 17:30, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Regarding the first bullet, politics has no place in this article unless the World Cup is directly affected. Besides, post-1992 US politics is a contentious topic that would just drag the article into a quagmire that we don't want.
- Regarding the second bullet, I believe that would be better explained at FIFA World Cup#Expansion to 48 teams or FIFA World Cup#Final tournament since it has effects beyond this tournament.
- Regarding the third bullet, I direct you to WP:CRYSTAL. Until FIFA states they will test any new rules during the tournament, such conjecture or rumor should be left out. I find it hard to believe that such a rule would be tested at the highest level before being introduced elsewhere. All other rule changes have been tested at lower levels before being introduced to the higher levels. — Jkudlick ⚓ (talk) 17:41, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Jkudlick's point about WP:CRYSTAL applies equally to the "Mascot" bullet point. "Ongoing speculation and fan discussions about the potential mascot" (emphasis added) plainly violate WP:CRYSTAL and don't belong here. There is no reason not to wait until the organizers announce the mascot.
- As to "fan engagement strategy," you already proposed that above in a separate section on this talk page and @SounderBruce: quite clearly stated why it doesn't belong. While you disagreed with him, I strongly suggest you read WP:NOTGUIDE before you attempt to add that sort of material here. The "Fan Fest" stuff strikes me as somewhat similar to a travel guide, though I suppose it's arguably more directly related to the subject matter that vague "travel advisories" and "gameday guidelines." One thing that concerns me about your proposal to discuss "climate-related" issues is that it runs the risk of the article turning into complaints about summertime weather in North America being hotter than some people prefer. 1995hoo (talk) 18:05, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- @1995hoo @Jkudlick Based on the user's writing style and the weirdly organized proposal, I'm about 80% convinced WIKIJKY is using generative AI to interact with Wikipedia. I understand Wikipedia's policy on the use of LLM in discussions is still developing, but if I were an admin, I'd close both those threads as obvious AI use and ask that the editor use their own thoughts and words. Adeletron 3030 (talk • edits) 19:23, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Hi sorry to bother you a lot. English is not my native language, that's why I use AI to help to polish my writing. But please don't be sensitive that I am still striving to enhance the accuracy of this page and I will follow wiki's guidance about AI usage. WIKIJKY (talk) 22:04, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- @WIKIJKY It's disappointing that whatever AI model you're using didn't tell you that "...please don't be sensitive that I am striving to enhance the accuracy of this page" is a rude way to address people in a collaborative setting. Anyway, a few of my thoughts:
- My issue isn't so much that you're using AI to form your sentences, but that you're using it to generate content. It's clear from the summary you copy-pasted above that LLMs don't understand Wikipedia's mission and scope. And the AI response to SounderBruce's concerns tells me that it has trouble interacting with other editors in a meaningful way, that it does a pretty good show of seeming to have a conversation, but it tends to miss important points or to search for answers that require research or learning.
- There are 342 different language editions of Wikipedia. There is no need for you to contribute in a language that you're not fluent in, especially when it's the version of Wikipedia with the most number of active editors.
- Please don't use Wikipedia to brush up on your English skills. That's not what we're here for.
- And I advise you to stop using AI to "polish" your writing, because it makes you sound like a bot. The language is needlessly verbose and stuffy, and organized like a high school student essay.
- Adeletron 3030 (talk • edits) 12:43, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- @WIKIJKY It's disappointing that whatever AI model you're using didn't tell you that "...please don't be sensitive that I am striving to enhance the accuracy of this page" is a rude way to address people in a collaborative setting. Anyway, a few of my thoughts:
- Hi sorry to bother you a lot. English is not my native language, that's why I use AI to help to polish my writing. But please don't be sensitive that I am still striving to enhance the accuracy of this page and I will follow wiki's guidance about AI usage. WIKIJKY (talk) 22:04, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- @1995hoo @Jkudlick Based on the user's writing style and the weirdly organized proposal, I'm about 80% convinced WIKIJKY is using generative AI to interact with Wikipedia. I understand Wikipedia's policy on the use of LLM in discussions is still developing, but if I were an admin, I'd close both those threads as obvious AI use and ask that the editor use their own thoughts and words. Adeletron 3030 (talk • edits) 19:23, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- As most have said, nothing should be added that is speculative or unknown at this point. Also the midterm elections will happen months after the tournament is over, so that doesn't even make sense as a topic. Adeletron may be right as the user page says they are a computer science student very in to AI. Not impressed. Chris1834 Talk 19:33, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Given that @WIKIJKY: is still editing here, and today posting fragments of material already reverted due to suspected AI-content, and similar changes in sentence structres in articles like recent edits to Lanzhou Zhongchuan International Airport, should this be considered by Administrators rather than general editors with a football bent? Matilda Maniac (talk) 00:40, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
- just wanna say that I am trying to improve a small section. I believed the content I added was necessary and supported by certain reliable sources. Everything I did clearly follows the norms and Wikipedia policies WIKIJKY (talk) 00:49, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
- Given that @WIKIJKY: is still editing here, and today posting fragments of material already reverted due to suspected AI-content, and similar changes in sentence structres in articles like recent edits to Lanzhou Zhongchuan International Airport, should this be considered by Administrators rather than general editors with a football bent? Matilda Maniac (talk) 00:40, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
Trump section on task force etc?
[2], [3], [4], [5]. Doug Weller talk 18:51, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- I think it can be covered under "Controversies" section. Masseinull (talk) 20:59, 24 March 2025 (UTC)