Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2025 June 30
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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 23:23, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Template:Unsi (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Fork of {{unsigned}} which encourages people to use non-standard timestamp formats, violating WP:SIGPROB: The timestamp must adhere to the system-generated format (
Accordingly, redirect to {{unsigned}}, which accepts the formats in Special:Preferences and automatically converts them to the appropriate format. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:21, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
HH:MM, D MM YYYY (UTC)
) and must not be customized. This is necessary for clear communications and for archiving bots to function correctly. Timestamps that are customized may be considered disruptive and editors using them may be blocked accordingly.
- Keep, it was forked because {{unsigned}} stopped working, and this editor was met with hostility when pointing it out and decided enough was enough. Nominating this for TFD while simultaneously discussing this at the talk page reeks of bad faith, and frankly I'll never use unsigned again even if it means MANUALLY tagging unsigned comments from this point forward. —Locke Cole • t • c 00:08, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- I purposefully avoided mention of this discussion at the talk page so I wouldn't get accused of WP:CANVASSing. You were asked to
Please stick to the format that would have been produced by using four or five tildes
and the bug you reported was fixed within three hours; I wouldn't call thathostility
. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:32, 1 July 2025 (UTC)- So you wanted me to manually edit timestamps from the page history to fit this template? Timestamps generated by MediaWiki using a standard timestamp format available in Special:Preferences? Of course I took offense to the suggestion that a format provided by four or five tildes was somehow the answer as y'all either wanted me to 1) manually change a timestamp to a date format of your choosing, or 2) go to Special:Preferences, change my timestamp format temporarily so I can get it from the page history "correctly", then change it back just to appease the folks at {{unsigned}}. Now I'm getting blowback for having the audacity to expect the template to show the timestamp with the same granularity it is presented in, even after proving it doesn't totally break reply-to functionality... —Locke Cole • t • c 02:54, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- You can use the formats from Special:Preferences and they will already be converted to the WP:SIGPROB requirement, which absolutely applies to the output of {{unsigned}}. It is a replacement signature, not just a note that it was unsigned. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:25, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- I disagree. If it were a replacement signature, it wouldn't lead out with "The preceding unsigned comment was added by ". That is a notification about a signature missing, not a signature in and of itself. —Locke Cole • t • c 20:43, 5 July 2025 (UTC)
- You can use the formats from Special:Preferences and they will already be converted to the WP:SIGPROB requirement, which absolutely applies to the output of {{unsigned}}. It is a replacement signature, not just a note that it was unsigned. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:25, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- So you wanted me to manually edit timestamps from the page history to fit this template? Timestamps generated by MediaWiki using a standard timestamp format available in Special:Preferences? Of course I took offense to the suggestion that a format provided by four or five tildes was somehow the answer as y'all either wanted me to 1) manually change a timestamp to a date format of your choosing, or 2) go to Special:Preferences, change my timestamp format temporarily so I can get it from the page history "correctly", then change it back just to appease the folks at {{unsigned}}. Now I'm getting blowback for having the audacity to expect the template to show the timestamp with the same granularity it is presented in, even after proving it doesn't totally break reply-to functionality... —Locke Cole • t • c 02:54, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
- I purposefully avoided mention of this discussion at the talk page so I wouldn't get accused of WP:CANVASSing. You were asked to
- Delete or Redirect The bug that inspired its creation was quickly fixed. There's no need for this fork other than the author still being angry that WP:SIGPROB exists and {{unsigned}} converts input to the format specified by the policy. Personally I lean towards delete since {{unsi}} doesn't seem like a useful alias for {{unsigned}}, but 🤷. Anomie⚔ 12:09, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
format specified by the policy
A couple of things: 1) It's not a policy, it's a behavioral guideline, and (this is really the more important one) 2) this covers signatures, not notifications placed by other editors noting the absence of a signature. FWIW, I have no issue with WP:SIGPROB beyond it being instruction creep that is being shoehorned onto things it doesn't fit. —Locke Cole • t • c 14:39, 1 July 2025 (UTC)- D'oh. I looked that up to say the right thing, and then said the wrong thing anyway. Yes, I meant "guideline". Anomie⚔ 11:58, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per Anomie. I'm not sure I agreed with {{unsigned}} becoming a god template rather than the previous system which separated concerns, but regardless this sort of solution is not the answer; I have to respect the consensus the community came to whether or not I agree with it, and so does everyone else. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:30, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2025 July 7. Izno (talk) 21:33, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2025 July 7. Izno (talk) 16:16, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Template:Atarimania (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2025 July 7. Izno (talk) 15:13, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2025 July 7. Izno (talk) 15:13, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2025 July 7. Izno (talk) 15:13, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 15:13, 7 July 2025 (UTC)
- Template:Time 100: The Most Important People of the Century (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
The list in question has been removed several times from Time 100: The Most Important People of the Century for copyright reasons; and this navbox is the list in some way. Xeroctic (talk) 11:45, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. --woodensuperman 12:10, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted by Pppery (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 05:06, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
Unused template 62.18.98.169 (talk) 15:55, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, useless template.
- 109.54.232.102 (talk) 12:49, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: This appears to be the same editor !voting twice, based on geolocation. There is a third IP which removed it from one page which again appears to be the same editor.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 00:07, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. I wouldn't at all mind there being a taxobox template dedicated to Wikifauna. I really don't like the fact that frivolous Wikifauna pages are using {{Speciesbox}} or {{Taxobox}}. But as far as I can tell, this template is not a substitute for how taxoboxes are being used on Wikifauna pages. It seems that this template has everything up from family is hardcoded, and I'm not sure that this template allows any values below family. Existing Wikifauna taxoboxes generally use real taxa at of ranks family and higher. Species ranks in Wikifauna taxoboxes are (almost?) always fictitious, but genera are sometimes real. A taxobox template for fictitious Wikifauna might be somewhat useful outside of article space, but this template is not usable for that purpose. Plantdrew (talk) 02:56, 1 July 2025 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 04:33, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
Only two articles (Tooth & Nail Records and Tooth & Nail Records discography) which already link to and from one another without the navbox. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 17:21, 18 June 2025 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. WP:NENAN --woodensuperman 12:11, 30 June 2025 (UTC)
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