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Looking to take this article to FA. My main concerns are if there is material the article is not covering. Thankyou, Rollinginhisgrave (talk | contributions) 09:01, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The white chocolate fad was very unusual globally, as was the backlash and ensuing standard of identity. The designation as "chocolate" has been very influential globally in whether white chocolate is chocolate. I've checked many LOTE sources as best I can, and white chocolate has generally been ignored as "children's food" or merely nostalgic. Rollinginhisgrave (talk | contributions) 02:21, 9 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Some images are missing alt texts.  Done
  • For {{nutritional value}}, |note= is used for serving size; if USDA is the source, |source= should be used  Done
  • The History section begins with the OED entry - are there any non-English equivalents that precede the origin noted by OED?
    • None that I've found. I did find something intriguing in a 1931 article in a Treccani encyclopedia, which says "La Svizzera si può considerare la culla della fabbricazione del cioccolato al latte e alla vaniglia" [Switzerland can be considered the cradle of milk and vanilla chocolate production. per Google translate]. Whether this Swiss-founded vanilla chocolate is white chocolate is unclear, as earlier texts give recipes for vanilla chocolate that don't look like white chocolate, I haven't found anything fruitful out of searches for vanilla chocolate in non-English searches.
  • "Making white chocolate was said to be a way" - who said?
    • It's unclear, the source doesn't seem to want to endorse the theory, and I doubt it's true. The source says: "The history of white chocolate is largely unclear, but "the general consensus," says Eagranie Yuh, author of "The Chocolate Tasting Kit" (Chronicle, 2014), "is that Nestlé was the first to develop white chocolate commercially in 1936 in Switzerland. The story is that it was a way to use up excess milk powder that had been produced for World War I and was no longer in demand."" WW1 ended 18 years before. Milk solids do not last for 18 years, chocolate crumb was invented because it can't really last even a year.
  • "which were then being produced in excess" - in what context? Nikkimaria (talk) 00:07, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • What variety of English is the article using?
  • Is there a reason Northumberland in particular was against the chocolate descriptor? Nikkimaria (talk) 01:50, 12 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • "said to be due to the lower caffeine content and milder flavor" - again, who said? Can we just say "closely associated with children because of the lower caffeine..." etc?
  • "The mascot continued to be portrayed by a child until 2010" - technically the mascot was a child. Was it the same child just described until 2010? Was it a series of children until 2010? What happened in 2010? Suggest rephrasing  Done
  • There is a tendency to repeat phrasings in close proximity - eg #History has three "due to"s in three sentences  Done
  • The first sentence of the third para of #History is about Spain - are the following two sentences Spain-specific also?
    • Yes,  Done
  • Does "almond variety" mean a variety with almond flavouring, or a variety with whole almonds, or a praline?
    • Good question. The text says "En 1965, le premier chocolat blanc fabriqué en Espagne vit le jour dans l’usine Elgorriaga d’Irun. De gros fabricants d’Oñate proposèrent bientôt un produit similaire, ainsi que Loyola ou Zahor. Ce dernier développa même, à terme, une variante aux amandes." No more elaboration is given on "variante aux amandes". I've changed to "one of them producing an almond-white chocolate sweet." to cover the possibilities. Rollinginhisgrave (talk | contributions) 09:08, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Nestlé, then the world market leader in white chocolate, pushed to create a mass market for white chocolate in Japan." - how and what was the result?
  • "By 2017, white chocolate was widely considered acceptable for adults to eat" - is this specifically in the UK? Yes,  Done
  • "invented around 2005 after white chocolate was accidentally left in a bain-marie for several days" - can you briefly indicate what the result was to make this a potentially different kind of chocolate?  Done
  • "received much attention" - media attention? reworded Green tickY
  • "a contemporary online survey" - date?  Done
  • "The Food and Drug Administration forbade white chocolate being marketed as "chocolate" unless manufacturers held rare permits that had to be renewed every fifteen months" - where does this sit timeline-wise with the FDA-related actions in the following paragraph? Suggest incorporating this there.  Done
  • Standard identity or standard of identity?  Done
  • "can smell of biscuit" - as in British biscuits or American biscuits? Suggest linking  Done
  • "Milk fats in white chocolate carry flavors, serve as flavor precursors, and provide flavor, some of these produced throughout the production process" - not sure what this is intended to mean

Rollinginhisgrave (talk | contributions) 06:51, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nikkimaria Thankyou for these comments, they're a great resource for me to come back to in my future work as I can see what issues I'm creating in my writing. I've finished addressing them all, hopefully sufficiently. Rollinginhisgrave (talk | contributions) 12:53, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]