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Your submission at Articles for creation: Pinball FX (December 29)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Vrxces were:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

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The comment the reviewer left was:

Currently not in a state to enter mainspace as it broadly doesn't conform to the manual of style and may not be notable. Happy to provide more specific feedback, but the key things that stand out are that: (1) the article lacks significant coverage, particularly review coverage, from reliable video game sources, given the two reviews cited are considered unreliable; (2) there's a fairly high-amount of references to and citations from user-generated coverage, such as YouTube interviews, reviews and features, which are generally not considered reliable coverage, at least not to substantiate notability; (3) there's a smidge of non-neutral writing and promotional tone to this that suggests authorship from someone affiliated with the game, namely the sheer amount of specific details about the tables and company and; (4) generally a lack of citations for large aspects of the article. Happy to chat more about this on my talk page if you need guidance.

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ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 05:02, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Wilbers! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 05:02, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Pinball FX (2023 video game) has been accepted

Pinball FX (2023 video game), which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

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ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 21:02, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

January 2025

Hello, I'm Waxworker. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, The Addams Family (pinball), but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Waxworker (talk) 13:55, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Jaws (film), without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. DonIago (talk) 20:59, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I've added a citation for the release date of Pinball FX. There is already one in there about the table itself from the FX3 release. Also, as to changing the number of pieces in the Lego set (I only noticed that by chance as I read about it a few weeks ago) from 1,500 to 1,497, the correct number is shown in a photo of the box that is in https://www.ign.com/articles/lego-ideas-jaws-set-is-now-available so don't think that needs a second source, but if it does then there is the Lego site itself https://www.lego.com/en-gb/product/jaws-21350. Wilbers (talk) 00:37, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pinball FX

I was working on a page for this game awhile ago here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Pinball_FX_(2022_video_game) I had no idea you created a page.Wikieditor9117 (talk) Wikieditor9117 (talk) 19:43, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, someone happened to ask just before Christmas on the pinball FX discord why there wasn't a Pinball FX Wikipedia page so between 3 of us we made one. I didn't see your draft before I started on it. Can't see anything in it to copy to the published article, but still should be able to improve it a little more over time. First time I've done more than a trivial edit, so its been a learning process. Wilbers (talk) 23:42, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah the page I created was pretty bare bones. I really only wanted to create a chart listing all the tables and updating it whenever a new table became available. I was hoping other editors would have contributed to the page but since you guys created a page, my draft is no longer needed.Wikieditor9117 (talk) 15:21, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

One more thing. Do you think we should add a tables chart to the Pinball M paragraph under "Related Games"? Like this

Table	Pack	Collection
Wrath of the Elder Gods: Director's Cut	N/A^fx	Zen Studios
Dead by Daylight Pinball	N/A	Behaviour Interactive
Chucky's Killer Pinball	N/A	Metro-Goldwyn-MayerZen Studios
Duke Nukem's Big Shot Pinball	N/A	2K Games
The Thing	N/A	Universal Pinball
System Shock	N/A^fx	Nightdive Studios
Texas Chainsaw Massacre Pinball	N/A	Legendary Pinball
Camp Blood Brook	N/A^fx	Zen Studios

^fx Original version of table from Pinball FX

Because I don't know if Pinball M will get it's own article.Wikieditor9117 (talk) 19:56, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've put Pinball M in its own section now, because I also think Pinball M doesn't need a separate article at this time. Can you add that table in, but to keep it consistent with the long table make the columns Table, [second column called License or IP or something instead of collection - not sure what the best thing to call it is], third column date of release, and the fx note could be in the table column after the name, but with the note saying Table also released in Pinball FX or something like that - given that 2 were released at the same time rather than afterwards.

Will also need a bit about reception after the table, and bit about development and what it is before it, but these can be gradually added. Wilbers (talk) 13:17, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I added the chart but I don't know the release dates of the games so I left that section blank. If you know the dates could you add them to the chart?Wikieditor9117 (talk) 14:13, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I've filled the dates in. Wilbers (talk) 15:36, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Harry Potter draft

Hello Wilbers. I have moved your Harry Potter pinball draft from your user page to draft space. The draft is now located at Draft:Harry Potter (pinball). I have also done some copyright cleanup. Copyright material is not allowed anywhere on Wikipedia, not even in sandboxes, user space, or drafts; and not even temporarily for editing.--— Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:50, 14 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Williams Pinball Classics (July 6)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Vrxces was:

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just passing mentions about the subject)
reliable
secondary
independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Almost there but just needs slightly more sourcing to establish notability - Gamezilla is an inconclusively helpful source for this purpose per WP:VG/S. I reckon two things can easily get this across the line - first, you may like to integrate the retrospective Retro Gamer review [1] and you may also like to dispense with in-text references to scores (usually not done in the WP:VG/MOS) and use the cite video game review template instead.

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ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 22:30, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Williams Pinball Classics has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Williams Pinball Classics. Thanks! ＶＲＸＣＥＳ (talk) 23:05, 6 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again, thanks for that. I've simplified the bit about ROM emulation - I can't find a source to use as a reference for that sentence, just youtube videos that show it. Added a very short gameplay section (gameplay for each table can be on the article for each of the 4 tables even though its not yet (but I will get round to the Black Rose one soon)). The Retro Gamer review you found isn't for this game but for the similarly named one the disambiguation link points to. Only other thing I found is IGN which doesn't look to be useful Wilbers (talk) 01:19, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again @Vrxces, can you take another look at this draft. Since the first submission I have added the video game review template, and also added History and Legacy sections so it can integrate with other Wikipedia articles. The Retro Gamer review you suggested is for a different game. While this means it only has 2 references for notability (Gamespot and Computer Gaming World reviews) I think 2 is the minimum, and I can't find a third.

In the process of this I have improved High Speed (video game) from a stub to start class and added references that it didn't have before. Why is the GamePro reference listed twice in references rather than once but used twice? Wilbers (talk) 15:45, 12 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar for you

Hello and thank you for all of your significant contributions to the pinball project on Wikipedia. And on a personal note thanks for taking me under your wing as a new editor.

		The Pinball Barnstar
		Awarded on this day 7/7/25 to you for significant contribution to pinball related articles Mindstrm (talk) 19:42, 7 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Williams Pinball Classics (July 21)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Caleb Stanford was:

Please address the inline cn tags and other inline maintenance tags and resubmit.

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Caleb Stanford (talk) 21:27, 21 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Great work on the importance table

Hats off to a job well done on the importance scale for us to use as a general Rubrik when rating or assessing the importance to our project!

Have another barnstar, you've earned it

		The Pinball Barnstar
		Awarded on 7/29/25 for your tireless work on improving the quality of the project Mindstrm (talk) 12:24, 29 July 2025 (UTC)[reply]