User talk:Turnbulltrump

December 2024

Hello, I'm Waxworker. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Car chase, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Waxworker (talk) 04:46, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

Added sources for car chase. Turnbulltrump (talk) 21:45, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

Note

Please note that due to WP:RUSUKR, editors who are not extended confirmed are unable to make edits about the Russo-Ukrainian war, broadly construed, but it is still possible to make constructive edit requests on the talk page. Thanks. Mellk (talk) 19:23, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

Please read WP:RS and WP:CITE

Any text you add, especially to featured/good articles, must be fully cited. Furthermore, especially on those articles, the new editor must maintain the citation styles of the previous editors per WP:CITEVAR and the stylistic choices such as no definite articles before ship names. Llammakey (talk) 13:19, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

I guess you did not read those articles. You just broke CITEVAR on the Fuso article. Be glad I did not revert you again and report you to ANI. Llammakey (talk) 13:05, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Hi, you should write an edit summary, however brief, to explain every input. Please see WP:UNRESPONSIVE and WP:ES. Thanks. Spartathenian (talk) 23:43, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

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Minivan

With this edit at Minivan you wrote:

These Japanese minivans were considerably more expensive than their domestic counterparts (such as the Honda Odyssey versus the Dodge Caravan), with a price premium due to their minivans' larger sizes and better handling/horsepower.

To support your edit, you cited this source. Perhaps I missed it, but where is this stated at the source cited? Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 14:48, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

April 2025

Hello, I'm Llammakey. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Japanese aircraft carrier Hiryū have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Teahouse or the Help desk. Thanks. Llammakey (talk) 22:19, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Japanese aircraft carrier Sōryū. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Llammakey (talk) 22:19, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Shōkaku-class aircraft carrier, you may be blocked from editing. Llammakey (talk) 22:22, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Its not vandalism, just cleaning up the lede. Turnbulltrump (talk) 23:29, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

It is if you have been reverted. You should have taken it to the talk page after being reverted the first time. Llammakey (talk) 12:05, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

My edit is clearly not vandalism nor unconstructive, you didn't even bother to look at it before reverting. Turnbulltrump (talk) 12:21, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Island structures on Japanese carriers

That kind of detail can be found on the class page. It is not necessary to differentiate between the two on the individual ship pages. Please stop being disruptive. Llammakey (talk) 22:20, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

The problem is that there isn't a Soryu-class article, instead Soryu and Hiryu are treated as sole ships in their respective articles. That was why I decided to make a separate paragraph describing the differences in their island arrangements, rather than leave it buried in the flight deck paragraph. Turnbulltrump (talk) 23:28, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

Soryu and Hiryu are half-sisters at best. You're adding a new material without citing it properly. Just moving or duplicating existing cites doesn't suffice since I'm pretty sure that they don't cover what you're adding. Since these are WP:Featured Articles you need to establish a consensus for the changes that you want to make. Post them to the talk pages and we can discuss them in more detail.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 14:39, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

The only problem is duplicating the cites from the other articles, otherwise such material is already included in Akagi and Shokaku-class. Turnbulltrump (talk) 16:09, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Nothing gets added to those articles without a proper cite. For citation purposes each article is treated separately. Another issue is the material you want to add appropriate to the individual ship article if there's a class article available? Let's discuss about that on the talk pages of the relevant ships. Now I'm going to revert your changes once again because I want you to show your suggested changes on each ship's talk page for discussion, with full and complete citations. Because these are featured articles, you lack the authority to make unilateral changes to them. Ignoring my requests and continuing to repost directly to the articles will get you sanctioned for violating the policy on bold changes, reversion and then take it to discussion pages.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 00:09, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

Below is the material from Shōkaku-class aircraft carrier (itself a Feature Article) that I added to Akagi, Soryu, and Hiryu. The latter three carriers are treated as unique ships, there was never an article on Soryu-class aircraft carrier. Its perfectly reasonable to make mention of the island in a separate paragraph, rather than burying it in the flight deck, using the below material, do you mind helping me implement the cite from Shōkaku-class aircraft carrier for Akagi, Soryu, and Hiryu articles?

The Basic Design Section of the Navy Technical Department decided upon an enlarged and improved Hiryū design with the island on the port side, amidships. After construction of the ships began, the Naval Air Technical Department (NATD) began having second thoughts about the location of the island because it thought that the portside location of the island on Hiryū and Akagi had an adverse impact on airflow over the flight deck. Another issue identified was that the amidships position shortened the available landing area, which had the potential to be problematic in the future as aircraft landing speeds increased with their growing weight. To verify these assumptions, the NATD filmed hundreds of takeoffs and landings aboard Akagi in October–November 1938 and decided to move the island over to the starboard side and further forward, about one-third of the length from the bow. Shōkaku was the furthest advanced by this point and the supporting structure for the bridge had already been built; rebuilding it would have delayed construction so it was left in place. The changes that had to be made consisted of a 1-meter (3 ft 3 in) widening of the flight deck opposite the island and a corresponding 50-centimeter (20 in) narrowing on the starboard side and the addition of 100 metric tons (98 long tons) of ballast on the port side to re-balance the ship.[3] Turnbulltrump (talk) 13:12, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

OK, which article is this from and which one do you want to add it to? Keep in mind WP:Summary style--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:39, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

The text that you just reverted is my original text. Tell me why you think that it's an improvement.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:39, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

Guess you are referring to Hiryū, if so I felt that her counterattack upon Yorktown should be mentioned in the lede. Turnbulltrump (talk) 20:23, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

Originally used for Shōkaku-class aircraft carrier, so some of it (but not all) could also be mentioned on Hiryū and Akagi. * Lengerer, Hans (2014). "The Aircraft Carriers of the Shōkaku Class". In Jordan, John (ed.). Warship 2015. London: Conway. pp. 90–109. ISBN 978-1-84486-276-4. Turnbulltrump (talk) 20:22, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

Good source, but I'm not going to be able to fully engage on this whole topic until the first of May or thereabouts.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:19, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

April 2025 (2)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Japanese aircraft carrier Hiryū. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:37, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

I self-reverted. Turnbulltrump (talk) 22:21, 23 April 2025 (UTC)