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Happy editing! Peaceray (talk) 06:16, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

February 2025

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

Hi, can anyone pls provide advice on wikimedia refusing to delete stolen images of mine hosted on their website with invalid licenses (it is hosted on Wikimedia without my permission). This has been an extremely lengthy and stressful experience that has had a severe and even traumatic impact on my life and career decisions. You might scoff, but I believed wikipedia to be a bastion of free information and equal access for years, and still to this day feel extremely betrayed and hurt by the wider academic institutions as a whole. :( :A local expert I know has helped in removing it from the actual wikipedia article for Powelliphanta patrickensis finally after 2 years, however, the Wikimedia hosted file itself is currently protected and can only be edited by people with autopatrol rights. My attempts to assert my legal owernship have been framed as vandalism, which is ironic, as this is my work, which is an undisputed fact that people in the Deletion Request (DR) went to great lengths to prove. :This photo has only ever previously been issued CC-BY-NC and All Rights Reserved licenses, both of which are incompatible with Wikimedia. The current CC-BY-SA license is invalid, was never approved by me, and I never knowingly gave that license. This is not a case of revoking a license, the license on Wikimedia was never valid in the first instance, which is an important distinction. : :There is no valid license on Wikimedia, i am not trying to revoke a license; Wikimedia has instituted a license I never authorised and as discussed in the deletion thread, it is a system that is not clear to the user and is quite outdated and misleading for new editors. :Here is the image in question: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Powelliphantapatrickensis2.jpg :Previous DR: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Powelliphantapatrickensis2.jpg : :his ordeal has caused me years of deep stress and emotional torment, and has led to various bouts of depression and me entirely quitting photography as a hobby and budding career. I am autistic and having Wikipedia of all organisations launder licenses and steal my prized work due to poor communication of licensing has killed my drive to pursue this field, and I have even largely given up on biology and conservation in the last few years and moved on to other fields such as economics and history. Largely due to this event and my inability to get any assistance in this matter. :At the end of the day, I am mostly saddened that I no longer have confidence or trust to share my photos or information with the wider academic community. : :I can't tell you how it happened. I understand the DR is very long, but it is all explained there. it happened on Boxing Day if you check the date, and I was completely wasted and have sparse recollection. So at best, I entered into a contract when I was drunk which is legally invalid, but what I'm pretty sure happened was I was just looking at the wikipedia page and wanted to see what my photo looked like in the editor, then I deleted it from the page again (never published) and assumed that it was gone. Someone uncovered during the DR that I had posted it using the WIkipedia visual editor, and never published the page. So, as far as I'm aware, I never approved a license and certainly would not have approved one with commercial rights, as evidenced by previous licenses I very specifically picked out on inaturalist that had Non Commercial clauses but allowed academic, educational or informative use or fair use in general. : :If I recall correctly, back around that time you did not have to agree to a license just to expermient on the visual editor, you could close the window but it wouldnt let you publish, but you could freely experiment. I believe this is what happened, but this is an educated guess. I never gave wikipedia or wikimedia permission to attribute CC-BY-SA, I believe it may have been a bug with visual editor that allowed you to experiment with editing without needing copyright permissions, as these were unpublished edits. I do not know how it was saved to my profile. :I can 100% tell you that any commercial aspects are just something I would never morally agree to in any circumstance, specially if I was inebriated. It is something I have a very strong stance against. : :Please remember this part of WP:Vandalism. : :"Even if misguided, willfully against consensus, or disruptive, any good faith effort to improve the encyclopedia is not vandalism." : :i didnt notice until 3 weeks later that the photo was hosted on wikimedia. what happened was i heard about vector, didnt like it, was reading RFC's for fun (like I often used to) and then logged in to see how I could control skin settings. Then I stumbled across the photo. : :if it helps, I have traced down the most original source of this image through wayback machine which displays the original and correct CC-BY-NC license, incompatible with wikimedia policy. : :https://web.archive.org/web/20230119231333/https://www.inaturalist.org/observations/71064879 : :some supporting metadata in the GBIF database which confirms the CC-BY-NC alongside metadata from the photo. :https://www.gbif.org/occurrence/3061565571/fragment :and the conversations in the DR with VRT member Red-Tailed hawk are also helpful: : :I understand that you are trying to protect the value of the photograph for you and your livelihood, though you may find that people on Commons are a lot more likely to accommodate courtesy deletions at COM:DR if you ask politely (even if you're right, people are nicer when one is polite). :For what it's worth, the photo has been under CC-BY-NC since 2021, but that license contains a noncommercial restriction. That's not a revocable license, and what it allows is for people to use the image for noncommercial purposes so long as they credit you for it. We're technically complying with that license by hosting on Commons (this is an educational project and we're giving credit; there isn't a sharealike component so I think Commons meets the letter), but we actively choose not to re-host those images because we believe in making things free for commercial re-use. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) :Even if wikimedia could just update to the correct license of CC-BY-NC that would also be acceptable and I would then be fine with Wikimedia hosting my images, and as I stated, always would have been open to compromise if people had tried. : :The core problem is the fact that they are license laundering my CC-BY-NC license into a CC-BY-SA license which is incompatible. : :Thanks for your time, :Voidy.

Decline reason:

The unblock template is to be used solely to contest your block. Instead, you are using it to complain about an image on a different project. There's literally nothing we can do for you here, you need to reach out to that different project. The Wikimedia Contact Us page might be helpful. I reiterate, though, you are complaining about something that's happening on a different project. Yamla (talk) 12:15, 27 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]


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