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Happy editing! Cheers, 🇵🇸🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦🇵🇸 18:57, 1 June 2025 (UTC)
Anthony Bowne moved to draftspace
[edit]Thanks for your contributions to Anthony Bowne. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it needs more sources to establish notability and Needs more non-primary sources. BLPs need substantial coverage in independent, secondary sources with reputations for accuracy and fact-checking. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.
Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit for review" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. Paul W (talk) 23:13, 2 February 2025 (UTC)
- Hi Paul, thank you very much for you response and your edits. I have removed the primary sources from the page (with the exception of archival library information with photographic evidence of Anthony Bowne's involvement in Transitions Dance Company) - the remaining 31 sources cited are secondary. I will submit the article for review. NadyaMiryanova (talk) 16:53, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- One of the challenges with this article is that some of the sources do not mention Bowne at all (and some are essentially promotional of Laban). While they give some context, they don't help establish Bowne's notability. Please review the WP:BIO guidance; there is also more specific guidance about creatives. Substantial coverage (more than passing mentions) in reliable sources of the individual is required, and - please note - interviews (eg: the Serenade source) are not always reliable (see WP:INT - "The general rule is that any statements made by interviewees about themselves, their activities, or anything they are connected to is considered to have come from a primary source"). If it helps, I have local Greenwich connections, experience in Wikipedia training and can advise offline - I can be emailed. Paul W (talk) 20:45, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for your guidance. I have consulted the guidelines and believe that Bowne falls within category (2), "the person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in a specific field". He was central to the construction of Laban Building, which won the RIBA Stirling Prize for Architecture, and holds multiple national and international roles in higher education, one of which is Principal of Trinity Laban, the UK's largest conservatoire. I was wondering whether you have any advice on which sources specifically should be removed, as I was looking at similar pages, e.g. Jonathan Freeman-Attwood, Principal of RAM, and the sources used are very similar - multiple references have his statements, government records and magazines are also used. It would be great if I could contact you via email about this, should I email the address listed on your website? NadyaMiryanova (talk) 17:07, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, User:NadyaMiryanova. While Bowne may fit the biography notability category, the article is also a biography of a living person (BLP). BLPs place a high importance on verifiability - "All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be supported by an inline citation to a reliable, published source" (read the guidance section devoted to reliable sources). In the current draft, various assertions are made about events in the history of the Laban, but they do not mention Bowne by name (ref 10, for example; also 12, 13, 14, 24, 25;. They might make useful additions to the Laban article but are not clearly linked to Bowne - and you will also have a COI in making edits to the Laban article). The PerformThis reference is also, in my view, unreliable. It looks like it was penned by Bowne or Laban; any assertions based on this need more reliable sourcing.
- We also take into consideration a person's notability. People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources. At the moment, the article has no reliable sources with significant coverage (more than passing/routine mentions) of Bowne, but multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability. [PS: Feel free to contact me via that email address - we can then have a telephone chat, if further discussion might help]. Paul W (talk) 12:12, 5 February 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you for your guidance. I have consulted the guidelines and believe that Bowne falls within category (2), "the person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in a specific field". He was central to the construction of Laban Building, which won the RIBA Stirling Prize for Architecture, and holds multiple national and international roles in higher education, one of which is Principal of Trinity Laban, the UK's largest conservatoire. I was wondering whether you have any advice on which sources specifically should be removed, as I was looking at similar pages, e.g. Jonathan Freeman-Attwood, Principal of RAM, and the sources used are very similar - multiple references have his statements, government records and magazines are also used. It would be great if I could contact you via email about this, should I email the address listed on your website? NadyaMiryanova (talk) 17:07, 4 February 2025 (UTC)
- One of the challenges with this article is that some of the sources do not mention Bowne at all (and some are essentially promotional of Laban). While they give some context, they don't help establish Bowne's notability. Please review the WP:BIO guidance; there is also more specific guidance about creatives. Substantial coverage (more than passing mentions) in reliable sources of the individual is required, and - please note - interviews (eg: the Serenade source) are not always reliable (see WP:INT - "The general rule is that any statements made by interviewees about themselves, their activities, or anything they are connected to is considered to have come from a primary source"). If it helps, I have local Greenwich connections, experience in Wikipedia training and can advise offline - I can be emailed. Paul W (talk) 20:45, 3 February 2025 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Anthony Bowne (February 4)
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Hello, NadyaMiryanova!
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Managing a conflict of interest
[edit] Hello, NadyaMiryanova. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Trinity Laban Conservatoire of Music and Dance, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for article subjects for more information. We ask that you:
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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicizing, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Tacyarg (talk) 22:32, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Hi, thank you for disclosing your CoI with Trinity Laban Conservatoire of Music and Dance. Please don't edit the article directly, but propose edits on the article's Talk page. Tacyarg (talk) 11:29, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Ah apologies, just seen this - I'll do that from now on! NadyaMiryanova (talk) 11:35, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for posting a request on the article's Talk page. If you add
{{edit COI}}
to it, other editors will be alerted to it and can review the changes. (This is described in more detail at WP:COIREQ.) Best wishes, Tacyarg (talk) 15:02, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
- Thanks for posting a request on the article's Talk page. If you add
- Ah apologies, just seen this - I'll do that from now on! NadyaMiryanova (talk) 11:35, 21 May 2025 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation: Anthony Bowne has been accepted
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