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Your submission at Articles for creation: Aji John (June 23)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Rambley were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Rambley (talk) 16:56, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Rambley, thanks for your attention and review, I will update the article with proper resources, Please let me know if any particular points you can point to help me. Grampaging (talk) 17:09, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Grampaging! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Rambley (talk) 16:56, 23 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Aji John (June 24)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Chippla360 was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of films). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Chippla ✍️ - Best Regards 08:30, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Aji John (June 24)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Theroadislong was:

The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations. Please cite your sources using footnotes. For instructions on how to do this, please see Referencing for beginners. Thank you.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Theroadislong (talk) 13:36, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Aji John has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Aji John. Thanks! Theroadislong (talk) 14:21, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Aji John (June 24)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Fade258 was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Lack of reliable references. Please review WP:TIMESOFINDIA for Times of India.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Aji John and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Fade258 (talk) 14:28, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Aji John (June 24)

Your recent article submission has been rejected and cannot be resubmitted. If you have further questions, you can ask at the Articles for creation help desk or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help. The reason left by Qcne was: This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia. The comment the reviewer left was: No indication of notability, sorry.

qcne (talk) 15:27, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, please approve 2001:8F8:1735:5A6A:E80B:FC80:32AA:DE2C (talk) 15:29, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. John is very popular in Malayalam film industry 2001:8F8:1735:5A6A:E80B:FC80:32AA:DE2C (talk) 15:30, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am afraid I have rejected the draft- you have not demonstrated he passes WP:NCREATIVE or WP:NPERSON through your sources. If the draft substantially changes I will take another look, but in it's current form it is not acceptable. qcne (talk) 15:31, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

All the details, resources and links i submitted are very authentic and you can just see his relevance by just search his name ‘Aji John’ in Google. Wikipedia has also listed all of his works 2001:8F8:1735:5A6A:E80B:FC80:32AA:DE2C (talk) 15:32, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Grampaging You did not prove that he meets our criteria, sorry. qcne (talk) 15:33, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

please advise how can i prove Grampaging (talk) 15:35, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Have a read of WP:NCREATIVE and WP:NPERSON and then gather a minimum of three reliable sources that each meet our criteria set out in WP:42. qcne (talk) 15:36, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

He directed 3 malayalam feature films and they are listed in Wikipedia; cant you consider this as reliable? Grampaging (talk) 15:39, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No, that is not a criteria for inclusion. Please read WP:NPERSON. qcne (talk) 15:40, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

is this help if i added his name like- Aji John Filmmaker- Grampaging (talk) 15:44, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

That doesn't help, you are just wasting my time now. qcne (talk) 15:45, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

sorry Grampaging (talk) 15:45, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

June 2025

Hello Grampaging. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being employed (or being compensated in any way) by a person, group, company or organization to promote their interests. Paid advocacy on Wikipedia must be disclosed even if you have not specifically been asked to edit Wikipedia. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are strongly discouraged from direct article editing and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Grampaging. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Grampaging|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 17:12, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

who said its paid, never. He is an Artist, and he is not into any paid profile creation. As an entertainment journalist and media person I must be a well-wisher of his works so i tried to create this article on behalf of his credentials. Sorry for the misunderstandings Grampaging (talk) 17:17, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Grampaging You said here you were his PR Manager? Public Relations Managers are generally employed and paid by the people they are promoting. qcne (talk) 17:19, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I honestly said my work area, but I have done anything as a paid service for him, I know Mr. John since he started his career as a film editor. if he is interested to paid service he would have been done this earlier. Mr. John is very talented artist, and he deserve a Wikipedia profile. So, I personally insisted him to do this Grampaging (talk) 17:24, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

- correction- I haven't done anything as a paid service for him,

Grampaging (talk) 17:25, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please make pass this if there are any possibilities, he deserves it Grampaging (talk) 17:26, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your simple declaration is all we need. Thank you. You do have a WP:COI, though. 🇵🇸‍🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦‍🇵🇸 17:45, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

advise me, how can i do Grampaging (talk) 17:47, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

paid editing again

As previously advised, your edits give the impression you have a financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. You were asked to cease editing until you responded by either stating that you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits, or by complying with the mandatory requirements under the Wikimedia Terms of Use that you disclose your employer, client and affiliation. Again, you can post such a disclosure on your user page at User:Grampaging, and the template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Grampaging|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. Please respond before making any other edits to Wikipedia. You have said “I am his PR manager" this means you are a paid editor and need to make the diclosure on your user page. Theroadislong (talk) 17:47, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

yes i can do the decleration Grampaging (talk) 17:48, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

when i can edit? Grampaging (talk) 17:51, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Can i edit? Grampaging (talk) 17:55, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Theroadislong has given you instructions on how to declare your paid editing. Please do so. Rambley (talk) 17:57, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, i have added teh disclosure. May i proceed now Grampaging (talk) 17:58, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Grampaging (talk) 17:58, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for all of your attention, can i proceed with the article now? Grampaging (talk) 17:59, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your user page does not exist (as indicated by the redlink), so no, you have not followed the instructions. Please follow the instructions above. Rambley (talk) 18:02, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Even if you do make the disclosure, @Grampaging, my rejection of the draft is still active so it seems rather pointless to try again? qcne (talk) 18:04, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

thanks, so giving up is the only one option? Grampaging (talk) 18:06, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unless you edit the draft with entirely different sources. qcne (talk) 18:15, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]