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Your submission at Articles for creation: Derivan (January 23)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Idoghor Melody were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:

in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
reliable
secondary
strictly independent of the subject

Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Idoghor Melody (talk) 04:23, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Dave83821! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Idoghor Melody (talk) 04:23, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Derivan (artist materials) moved to draftspace

Thanks for your contributions to Derivan (artist materials). Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it needs more sources to establish notability, it is promotional and reads like an advertisement and you may have a possible Conflict of Interest. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. bonadea contributions talk 08:29, 29 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Derivan (company) (March 31)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Bonadea were:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Derivan (company) and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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bonadea contributions talk 05:59, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bonadea,

I am slightly confused exactly on where the problem lies, as the pages I had based this one off (Liquitex, Golden Artist Colours, Winsor & Newton, etc.) all have equal or fewer sources, less information on their pages, and are written from the same perspective? And I added the brand name to the artist materials brands in the acrylic section as I presumed it was supposed to be a list of any notable brands. Dave83821 (talk) 20:26, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately there's a lot of inadequate articles in Wikipedia. If you want to look at articles to use as models (which is a reasonable thing to do!), check articles that have been designated as "Good Articles". These have been through a pretty strict review process to make sure that they meet a set of editorial standards. If you want to look at good articles about companies, scroll down the Good Articles page to "Social sciences and society" and click "Economics and business" below that. --bonadea contributions talk 07:26, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

thank you very much I had no idea about this it has helped massively. Now to wait until i can edit again... Dave83821 (talk) 02:05, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

March 2025

Please do not add promotional material to Wikipedia, as you did to Template:Art materials brands. While objective prose about beliefs, organisations, people, products or services is acceptable, Wikipedia is not a vehicle for soapboxing, advertising or promotion. Thank you. bonadea contributions talk 16:08, 31 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Connected users?

Hi Dave83821, what is your connection to the users Kimetit, Sielegitt and Wentwasp? --bonadea contributions talk 07:29, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

None at all, no one is replying to the other replies I have further down either, perhaps you are able to help me? Dave83821 (talk) 00:00, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

April 2025

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for abusing multiple accounts. Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but not for illegitimate reasons, and any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted.

If you believe that there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Bbb23 (talk) 23:33, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Dave83821 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Not quite sure why I was blocked in the first place? I see it says using multiple accounts however I have only been using this acount (and I have done all the work on the page I am working on at the moment). Possibly because I am on the same wifi as a lot of other people that it's flagged it?. I saw that there was a connected users section howeevr I have no clue who any of those users are? I am not sure why I would use multiple accounts instead of just this one is this is what I have done the work on. Thanks :)Dave83821 (talk) 21:27, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Procedural decline only. This unblock request has been open for more than two weeks but has not proven sufficient for any reviewing administrator to take action, or you have not responded to questions raised during that time. You are welcome to request a new block review if you substantially reword your request. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that

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2. will not continue to cause damage or disruption, and
3. will make useful contributions instead.

Please read the guide to appealing blocks for more information. Yamla (talk) 14:47, 8 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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From a technical standpoint, Kimetit, Wentwasp, Sielegitt, Ajargrey are Confirmed to each other. SIELLEEE is also confirmed to this group and I've blocked the account. All of these are Confirmed to Begotsheba, which makes them all Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Aniflower, which is a UPE sock farm. Dave83821 appears Unrelated to these accounts, as are AshlynL and Mdzahirulhaq. @Bbb23: as blocking admin. -- Ponyo^{bons mots} 21:53, 10 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

If it is found I am not related to these accounts am I able to unblocked and allowed to edit please?

Ponyo Can you rule out meat puppetry?--Bbb23 (talk) 22:02, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bbb23 It's always possible. A bunch of squirrels chasing the same nut? I just didn't want the technical data for the Aniflower UPE group to become muddied with a couple of false positives.-- Ponyo^{bons mots} 20:49, 16 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Has any conclusion been reached? I would like to continue trying to work on the page I was creating if that is okay Dave83821 (talk) 22:00, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ponyo, with no reply to this in like two months, is there anything more I can do to move forward? Not particularly sure what was actually done wrong here so Dave83821 (talk) 00:00, 13 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

wtf is that?! Dave83821 (talk) 01:51, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:MEAT. PhilKnight (talk) 17:42, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am a bit confused, if it says I am unrelated to these prior mentioned accounts doesn't that mean its not the sock meat puppetry then? Dave83821 (talk) 21:08, 14 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In this context, what Ponyo meant by "unrelated" is that the technical data doesn't indicate any relation to other accounts. That doesn't necessarily rule out other kinds of evidence of a connection. JBW (talk) 13:45, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Was not aware the pages I created get deleted straight away despite no clear evidence of anything. Especially as the page was attempted to be deleted in the past and knocked back, so after no changes have been made in more than a month I do not understand why it would be deleted now, especially with no real evidence at all Dave83821 (talk) 23:29, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

? Dave83821 (talk) 23:34, 7 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi JBW, just wondering if a conclusion has been reached as its been almost three weeks without any sort of other updates. Dave83821 (talk) 02:19, 22 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Would anyone at all be able to reply? Its been over a month now with no reply of any kind Dave83821 (talk) 23:59, 12 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Derivan (company)

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A tag has been placed on Draft:Derivan (company), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. GPL93 (talk) 18:54, 11 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to retrieve this information that was deleted for me to reference in the future and to to work on it. Thanks Dave83821 (talk) 04:18, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A question about Derivan

Do you have a connection to Derivan? For example, is Derivan a client of yours? JBW (talk) 15:46, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No i dont, and I don't have a job at all in any sort of content creation either Dave83821 (talk) 23:18, 4 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Unblock

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Dave83821 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I want to retrieve the information I wrote on the page I had created, or get any sort of answer back from anyone, but so far there has not been a single reply to any of the users at all on my talk page that I have been trying to ask for answers from. Let me know what I have to do here thanks Dave83821 (talk) 04:21, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Dave83821 (talk) 04:21, 16 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Not pinging the blocking admin – following a recall petition, he has signalled he will likely not be editing again. I think that this request has to be accepted. This block was based on Derivan being an editing interest in common with a sock ring. But subsequent to the block, checks found this account technically unrelated to the others, and technically confirmed the rest of the socks. There are also other differences in editing behaviour. Arcticocean ■ 18:56, 17 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]