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Suggestions for possible enhancement

1) A camera icon such as may better illustrate the intent of this template than the current "w" puzzle piece icon (especially for casual readers who may not be regular contributors or editors).
2) The "issue=" parameter message could read This article needs images (or additional, more specific images).
3) The order of the two sentences in the "fix=" parameter could be reversed so that it begins with Please help out by adding images to it so that it can be better illustrated. (As is now stands, the enhanced message (i.e., "If in category|Living people") reads as if it is wedged in the middle when it appears.)
4) The wording of the enhanced message could be made more clear: If this article is about you (or pictures you or someone that you represent), and you wish to contribute a picture (or a better picture than the current one), please read this page. Thank you!
-- Cl3phact0 (talk) 10:12, 11 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Implemented (1) -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 10:11, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Implemented (2) -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 12:02, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pending further evaluation (3) -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 15:43, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Not done Sequence seems okay with the "Thank you!" at the end of overall message.-- Cl3phact0 (talk) 08:12, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Implemented (4) -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 15:43, 12 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

About 3: I wanted the message to the subjects to be a little bit more attention-grabbing than the average tag text so I originally formatted it as a bullet, but conditional bullets are not really a thing apparently. @Jonesey95: Do you have any ideas for how to make the 'if in category' message (to the subjects) visually/format...-ly pop? —Alalch E. 15:28, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'm starting to get used to the way it displays currently in BLPs (e.g., Hella Jongerius). Could be getting pretty close to "right" (or maybe I need a WP:WIKIBREAK). One function that might also be useful would be the ability to force the "enhanced message" to appear even when the subject is dead (i.e., not in category|Living people; e.g., Italo Lupi). -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 15:55, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think the box, and the "if this is about you" text stands out just the right amount. It uses a standard {{Ambox}} template, so it looks familiar as a maintenance template, and the bold text used for emphasis catches the eye. Any additional emphasis would IMO be too glaring and out-of-sync with similar maintenance templates. I think the version showing at Hella Jongerius looks good and gets the message across effectively. Nice work. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:59, 13 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

About 2: I think the original This article needs additional or more specific images. was cleaner in structure than This article needs images (or additional, more specific images). Although in both cases, "more specific" doesn't cover cases where we're seeking better quality or more recent images, which is often the case. I'm not sure what a better wording would be for that - "This article needs additional or improved images"?

About 4: If this article is about you (or depicts you or someone that you represent), and you wish to contribute a picture (or a better picture than the current one), please read this page. could be made clearer again, and we should probably try to lose the WP:CLICKHERE style reference to "this page". If we can suggest "better picture" in the previous sentence, perhaps just If this article is about you or someone that you represent, you can submit a photo.?

Generally: Please help out by adding images to it so that the article can be better illustrated. doesn't flow that well when included after the "if this article is about you" sentence, on BLP articles. It seems like this should either be moved to be before that sentence, or omitted. Belbury (talk) 09:39, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Succinct and gets straight to the point:

If this article is about you or someone that you represent, you can submit a photo.

I like it. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 10:12, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Minor linguistic technicality: in theory, anyone could submit a photo, not just the subject or their representative. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 10:42, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Swapping Please help out by adding images so that the article can be better illustrated. to be before rather than after the "if this article is about you" would make that clear from context, I think. (The current BLP template wording has the same issue: the whole thing can be read as a plea to the subject and their representatives, rather than to all readers.) Belbury (talk) 11:38, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've implemented much of what you suggest above (with some further massaging). It seems as if both versions hold up well under scrutiny. Please take a close look, as I changed quite a bit in one go with that last edit. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 15:55, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I can see that This article needs images (or additional, improved, more specific images) is covering various bases ("this article has no images, or not enough images, or bad images, or insufficiently specific images"), but I don't think we need to say anything more than needs additional or improved images. Unless "more specific" is a very common use case on non-biographical articles?

If this article is about you (or someone that you can photograph), Wikipedia wants your picture, and it is simple to submit your work may be a slight misdirection on the link, as the Wikipedia:A picture of you target is written addressing the subject of the article, rather than Wikipedia photographers in general. I'm not sure what page we'd want to send a photographer to, at that point.

Please help out. Thank you! stands out as unconventional template phrasing. We've already said please a couple of sentences previously, and I don't think Wikipedia templates normally say thank you in advance, do they? Belbury (talk) 16:18, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Noted. Re: first comment, I'm indifferent. Perhaps another set of eyes would be helpful? As for who we are addressing, my view is that it is both the subject and/or anyone who can photograph them and make the photos available (see George Lundeen example in PICYOU), so it seems okay as written. Re: the perhaps uncharacteristically polite tone, as we're addressing non-Wikipedians, this makes sense (I picked up the vibe from Welcome to Wikipedia! in the first paragraph of PICYOU, and riffed some of the other clauses too). I'm spending too much time here. Maybe let it sit for a day to see how much traffic (and how many uploads) it generates? -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 16:32, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]
PS: The Skeeter Reece example in By email section also relevant to second point. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 16:36, 15 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

~~By the same logic: This article needs images or additional, more specific images. (without parenthasis).~~ -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 10:36, 14 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Display on mobile devices

The icon that displays on mobile devices is the default brush used by Template:Ambox (type=style–Style issues) rather than the camera icon . Can this be fixed? -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 10:55, 21 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]