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This template appears not to be collapsible. Try state=collapsed and see. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 00:21, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

bracketed

The note says "Bracketed figures indicate cardinals..." meaning in this instance 121:

223 (121)

But in the US we would not say bracketed. These are brackets: [ ]. We'd say "in parentheses". Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 17:33, 24 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

WP:BRINT

This is not a super important issue, Ravenpuff, but from WP:BRINT: "where a redirect represents a distinct sub-topic within a larger article and is not merely a variant name, it is preferable to leave the redirect in the template". Cardinal bishops, priests, and deacons – that all redirect to sub-sections – seem to be exactly that. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 11:09, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, fair enough. I've undone my reversion; thanks for notifying. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 11:13, 8 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 3 October 2023

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Change *Dri from Cardinal Priests to Cardinal Deacon column. Hughsonszeto (talk) 02:10, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done Elli (talk | contribs) 16:45, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Sandri has now turned 80, which makes him a cardinal non-elector. His name should be italicized. 2607:FEA8:33E0:208:8D5D:5A92:9978:9E46 (talk) 23:30, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Shadow311 (talk) 16:05, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Spanish and Portuguese surnames

There's inconsistency in how the surnames are used here. Both of these cultures feature double surnames, a paternal one and a maternal one. Spaniards put the paternal surname first while the Portuguese put it second. In this table we have many Spanish and Portuguese surnames but some use the double surname while others merely the paternal surname. I would like to make it consistent, either keeping just the paternal surname (which is the more prominent one) or using double surnames for everyone with a Spanish or Portuguese surname. I'm tagging @Ravenpuff and @Rutsq as editors who often edit these articles to seek consensus. Killuminator (talk) 11:46, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I believe we should consistently display the name the cardinal uses for official purposes. I don't see it as our job to impose any other practice. Rutsq (talk) 12:20, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

How do we ascertain which names they use? Right off the bat, I checked the news for Cardinal Ladaria Ferrer. Some sources only use Ladaria while others use both surnames. Killuminator (talk) 13:54, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

News sources are unlikely places to answer the question. Find a document he's signed. It's not hard. For ordinaries there are pastoral letters on the website of their sees. Is it worth the effort? How much does this matter? I hate too much about this template to care much about this detail. Rutsq (talk) 14:59, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'll switch him to Ladaria after having found a signed document. If you hate the template a lot, why not bring your own proposals to the table? Killuminator (talk) 16:15, 1 May 2025 (UTC)[reply]