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  • Source: "Bill Nelson | Artist | Official Charts". Official Charts Company.
Created by Fundgy (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 439 past nominations.

SL93 (talk) 22:17, 24 May 2025 (UTC).

  • Therapyisgood DYKs can't be promoted if there is only a checkmark because plenty of editors have done that without reviewing everything. The easiest way to do it is use "Blank template without comments". It can be found by clicking "edit" on this page and scrolling to "Reviewer's template for easy copy+paste". SL93 (talk) 01:45, 3 June 2025 (UTC)
  • @SL93: I'm so content brain I didn't even know that, what with the ever-changing DYK rules I don't follow or care about :). Anyways, to me the lead is too short and could be tagged with a maintenance template for that reason, thus making it ineligible for DYK as stands. I won't tag it with the template but the lead should include a sentence from all relevant sections. It's missing a lead sentence from the "critical reception" section and the "Background and recording" sections. As to the hook itself, I find it interesting, so no problem there. However I do take issue with this in the lead: "Quit Dreaming and Get on the Beam is the second studio album by English musician Bill Nelson." perhaps add "solo" before "album", as this was released in May 1981 but Be Bop Deluxe had a lot of records before this one, see here. Also, I'm concerned with the factual accuracy of the hook itself. "... that the 1981 release Quit Dreaming and Get on the Beam is Bill Nelson's highest charting album in his native UK?" however, what do we consider a Bill Nelson album, philosophically? Is it an album as him with an artist, or as a producer, composer, what? Discogs lists 958 credits in a variety of roles for him. I haven't checked every one, but one could, and comprise a list where in theory a Bill Nelson album charted higher in the UK than this album. I would suggest: ... that the 1981 release Quit Dreaming and Get on the Beam is Bill Nelson's highest charting album in his native UK as an artist? Let me know what you think, thank you for contributing to Wikipedia. Therapyisgood (talk) 01:37, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
Also while I'm here do you have the personnel for the bonus album? Do you think not including that could run afoul of WP:DYKCOMPLETE? Therapyisgood (talk) 01:48, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
  • Therapyisgood I thought that it was common sense that it would be as an artist because common usage is that an artist's album is referred to as their album. Discogs can only be used as an external link per it being user-edited. Your hook adds unnecessary content. SL93 (talk) 01:50, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
My answer to WP:DYKCOMPLETE is no because it's a totally different album. SL93 (talk) 01:56, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
@SL93: glad I caught you before you expanded that lead. Apparently the only tags not allowed on DYK articles are dispute tags, so the lead expansion is unnecessary. The only other thing that prevents this from going forward is this: the recording studios aren't cited in the infobox. Per WP:DYKCITE, "All content that could reasonably be challenged" should have citations. The recording studio could reasonably be challenged. I've tagged the article with lead too short. After that is cited, the hook will be good to go. Therapyisgood (talk) 11:43, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
*@SL93: *@Therapyisgood: Hi, article creator here. I've expanded the lead a bit. As far as the studios go, I don't believe those are typically cited in the infobox. Template:Infobox album seems to only necessitate that the genres and recording time frame be cited. Besides, the recording studios are mentioned in the liner notes, which is already cited within the infobox as a citation for the recording dates. It's quite typical for the liner notes to say the recording studio anyway. I can't find an example of a GA album article where studios themselves have a direct citation in the infobox, so I'm not sure this matters. Fundgy (talk) 13:21, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
@Fundgy:@SL93: Can you add it to the article and cite it with the liner notes? I feel like it should be mentioned in the "Background and recording" section. Maybe other sources talk about it too, given the two years it took to get it released. Once you add that, I'll give it the check; if you don't want to add it, get another reviewer. Therapyisgood (talk) 21:28, 4 June 2025 (UTC)
@SL93: @Therapyisgood: Done! Fundgy (talk) 22:47, 4 June 2025 (UTC)

Therapyisgood (talk) 01:21, 5 June 2025 (UTC)

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