Template:Did you know nominations/Frankish Tower (Acropolis of Athens) (2nd nomination)
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The result was: promoted by SL93 talk 22:13, 18 January 2025 (UTC)
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Frankish Tower (Acropolis of Athens)
- ... that the Frankish Tower on the Acropolis of Athens was used as a beacon, a salt-store and a prison?
- Source: Miller (1908). The Latins in the Levant. London: John Murray. pp. 401–402. OCLC 1157183453. (beacon); Giochalas, Thanasis; Kafetzaki, Tonia (2013). Αθήνα. Ιχνηλατώντας την πόλη με οδηγό την ιστορία και τη λογοτεχνία [Athens. Tracing the city through History and Literature] (in Greek). Athens: Estia. p. 130. ISBN 978-960-05-1559-6. (salt-store/prison)
- ALT1: ... that the Frankish Tower was probably built by Italians? Source: Lock, Peter (1987). "The Frankish Tower on the Acropolis, Athens: The Photographs of William J. Stillman". The Annual of the British School at Athens. 82: 131–133. doi:10.1017/S0068245400020384. JSTOR 30103084. S2CID 163963456.
- ALT2: ... that a Greek academic compared the Frankish Tower in Athens with "the droppings of birds of prey"? Source: Hamilakis, Yannis (2007). The Nation and Its Ruins: Antiquity, Archaeology, and National Imagination in Greece. Oxford University Press. pp. 92–93. ISBN 978-0-19-923038-9.; St. Clair, William (2022). Who Saved the Parthenon? A New History of the Acropolis Before, During and After the Greek Revolution (PDF). Cambridge: Open Book Publishers. p. 494. doi:10.11647/OBP.0136. ISBN 978-1-78374-461-9. S2CID 248842303. Archived from the original (PDF) on 2022-05-27. Retrieved 2023-01-07.
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Improved to Good Article status by UndercoverClassicist (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 30 past nominations.
Comment: 2nd nomination, per new DYK rules: 1st run was in 2014. UndercoverClassicist T·C 11:42, 31 December 2024 (UTC).
- Starting review. Zeete (talk) 11:43, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Promoted to Good Article on December 30, 2024, last DYK on June 27, 2014, long enough (over 10,000 per DYK check), cited, neutral, Earwig reported violation unlikely (8.3%), QPQ done. Hook interesting, beacon cited, salt-store/prison cited in Greek (AGF), length check ok. ALT1: I can not find "Italian" in the reference or the article. Did you mean Venetians? ALT2: cited, catchy but Lysandros Kaftanzoglou is a stub and might be considered an easter egg, is the link needed?
@UndercoverClassicist: Please comment on ALT1 and ALT2. Thanks, Zeete (talk) 12:29, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Zeete: Thank you for the review. "Italians" was a reference to Florentines (see the first paragraph of "History"); it probably wasn't built by Venetians, though that was once a popular belief. The jump from "Florentine" to "Italian" is, in my view, a routine calculation as far as OR/verification is concerned. No objection to losing the link if you feel it would be beneficial. UndercoverClassicist T·C 13:32, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- @UndercoverClassicist: Removing link from ALT2, minor editorial change. Some may challenge the quote marks, since neither reference has them. Regarding ALT1, the article does not have "Florentine" (I could only find it indirectly via Acciaioli family). And isn't the timeframe before the Kingdom of Italy? Also, consider adding this template to the article talk page.
Good to go with Hook or ALT2. Thanks, Zeete (talk) 15:04, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you: I think we can do without ALT1, though people from Italy have been known as Italians since Roman times, even before Italy was politically united. UndercoverClassicist T·C 15:16, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
